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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 17:01:51 GMT
This family is a such a train wreck in so many ways. Those poor kids.
I read something today that says the parents gave Jill & her husband a $1.5 million house, but gave Jessa and her husband a ~900sf home. Supposedly Jim Bob thinks Jill is more likely to follow the Duggar Way of oodles of kids, so is rewarded more handsomely. Of course, that's rumor and speculation, but apparently the differences between the houses is fact.
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Post by myshelly on May 26, 2015 17:02:55 GMT
I suppose it's way too much to ask that this incident cause them to reflect and reason with regard to any of their other ill advised political opinions.
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Post by femalebusiness on May 26, 2015 17:03:06 GMT
This doesn't surprise me at all. The parents are now, and always have been sick fucks. Thank you for posting this.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 17:10:17 GMT
I would not be surprised if they think what Josh did is different than the incest they spoke about. Obviously, based on their actions and the way they speak about those past events today, they don't see the abuse of their daughters as a big deal.
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Post by georgiapea on May 26, 2015 17:11:13 GMT
So I guess finger fucking your sisters doesn't count? Well, alrighty then.
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Post by MDscrapaholic on May 26, 2015 17:11:45 GMT
I guess because Josh was just "fondling" that doesn't qualify as "incest". What a warped way to think.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on May 26, 2015 17:16:19 GMT
SO much wrong with him.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on May 26, 2015 17:21:52 GMT
This family is a such a train wreck in so many ways. Those poor kids. I read something today that says the parents gave Jill & her husband a $1.5 million house, but gave Jessa and her husband a ~900sf home. Supposedly Jim Bob thinks Jill is more likely to follow the Duggar Way of oodles of kids, so is rewarded more handsomely. Of course, that's rumor and speculation, but apparently the differences between the houses is fact. Well that explains the huge differences in each of the homes. I seen a tour of them both awhile back on YouTube and the homes are completly night and day from one another. Jessa's home isn't bad but it's nothing compared to Jill's home. |
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Post by Jili on May 26, 2015 17:23:12 GMT
I would not be surprised if they think what Josh did is different than the incest they spoke about. Obviously, based on their actions and the way they speak about those past events today, they don't see the abuse of their daughters as a big deal. I had this same thought. |
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Post by marianne on May 26, 2015 17:30:27 GMT
Ha! Why are we not surprised? As I said in another thread, hypocrisy at it's finest! Slimey, just slimey.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on May 26, 2015 17:36:26 GMT
I think the focus here is misplaced. First and foremost the victims need to get out of that house of horrors and get counseling. I don't think it would be a stretch to find out they have been brainwashed to think they were at fault - no, that is NOT my point of view, they were/are victims.
As I have posted before I never watched the show. Are some of the girls still of the age where social services should be involved?
I think some folks are getting their rocks off on this tragedy (Not directed to the OP, when the jokes and memes started to appear I got out of the other thread) and the victims abuse is getting lost as what should be the primary focus.
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Post by utmr on May 26, 2015 17:40:06 GMT
You misunderstand because part of the statement was omitted. You need to add "...unless my son is the perpetrator" to that sentence. See, it makes complete sense now, right?
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Post by ReneeH20 on May 26, 2015 18:28:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 18:30:29 GMT
I think the focus here is misplaced. First and foremost the victims need to get out of that house of horrors and get counseling. I don't think it would be a stretch to find out they have been brainwashed to think they were at fault - no, that is NOT my point of view, they were/are victims. As I have posted before I never watched the show. Are some of the girls still of the age where social services should be involved? I think some folks are getting their rocks off on this tragedy (Not directed to the OP, when the jokes and memes started to appear I got out of the other thread) and the victims abuse is getting lost as what should be the primary focus. Don't get me wrong. I absolutely think the victims are the most important part. I will not and have no posted jokes/memes about this horrific abuse. I do think those this information that I posted is important. Because it shows a pattern of outright lying to the public. How others can ignore that I just don't understand. (Not you in general of course) And yes one of the victims is still underage. That is how they got the records destroyed. The victim supposedly asked for it to be done. Personally I feel she was pressured into it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 18:54:07 GMT
This family is a such a train wreck in so many ways. Those poor kids. I read something today that says the parents gave Jill & her husband a $1.5 million house, but gave Jessa and her husband a ~900sf home. Supposedly Jim Bob thinks Jill is more likely to follow the Duggar Way of oodles of kids, so is rewarded more handsomely. Of course, that's rumor and speculation, but apparently the differences between the houses is fact. Actually he didn't "give" either home to either child. Those are homes, owned by JB and Michelle and as the kids start out, they are gifted the homes to live in (IDK if they're charged any kind of rent) while the newlyweds get on their feet.
The home that Jill lives in now was purchased to "flip"...and that changed as the work neared completion with Jill's engagement. The home Jessa lives in was the same home Josh and Anna lived in when they were first married.
I don't believe the large home was given to Jill to live in because she was going to have tons of kids. I think the home became available and Jill was next in line as she was engaged and had a wedding date prior to Jessa's. I think it was nothing more than timing and not some plan to punish Jessa or reward Jill's family plans.
Other than that, nothing could surprise me about the Duggars any longer.
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Post by rainangel on May 26, 2015 19:02:57 GMT
There was a politician over here that represented a very Christian Party, and she pretty much wanted to burn gay people at the stake. Until her own son came out as a gay man.
She then released a statement that she had had long conversations with her son about this, and she changed her viewpoint on gay people. I respect her for that! I don't agree with most of her politics, but it takes a brave woman and politican to come out and say 'I was wrong'.
The Duggars should do the Christian thing and come out and say 'We were wrong. We did wrong by our daughters. We did wrong by our son by defending him and not making him face the consequences for his actions'. Maybe then I could have a teeny tiny bit of respect for them. The way they are acting now is just damagecontrol and trying to justify hiding a serious crime.
I feel so sad for these girls... I hope they somehow manage to counselling and start healing (if that is even possible, they have been wronged by everyone...)
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Post by Peamac on May 26, 2015 19:17:21 GMT
This family is a such a train wreck in so many ways. Those poor kids. I read something today that says the parents gave Jill & her husband a $1.5 million house, but gave Jessa and her husband a ~900sf home. Supposedly Jim Bob thinks Jill is more likely to follow the Duggar Way of oodles of kids, so is rewarded more handsomely. Of course, that's rumor and speculation, but apparently the differences between the houses is fact. They weren't given a house. They "rent" the house from her father. It is a much bigger house than Jessa's, but they are just living there until it's sold, so they aren't going to permanently live there. I'd imagine that if Jessa had gotten married before Jill, Jessa and Ben would be living there. ETA: Nevermind- I see @gajenny said it better. |
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Post by maryland on May 26, 2015 19:22:03 GMT
This family is a such a train wreck in so many ways. Those poor kids. I read something today that says the parents gave Jill & her husband a $1.5 million house, but gave Jessa and her husband a ~900sf home. Supposedly Jim Bob thinks Jill is more likely to follow the Duggar Way of oodles of kids, so is rewarded more handsomely. Of course, that's rumor and speculation, but apparently the differences between the houses is fact. Wow, that's a big difference. What about the son, did he give him a house too?
I wonder if they will give all their kids a house. I didn't realize it until I read your post.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 19:55:22 GMT
This family is a such a train wreck in so many ways. Those poor kids. I read something today that says the parents gave Jill & her husband a $1.5 million house, but gave Jessa and her husband a ~900sf home. Supposedly Jim Bob thinks Jill is more likely to follow the Duggar Way of oodles of kids, so is rewarded more handsomely. Of course, that's rumor and speculation, but apparently the differences between the houses is fact. Wow, that's a big difference. What about the son, did he give him a house too?
I wonder if they will give all their kids a house. I didn't realize it until I read your post.
Yes the small one that Jessa and Ben got was Josh and Anna's first. |
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 26, 2015 20:32:03 GMT
I want to be able to walk away from all threads about the Duggars. Why do I keep reading? It just raises outrages me and I'm sure it's no good for my blood pressure.
I wonder how Jessa feels getting Josh's hand-me-down house? Do Josh and Anna have other property in AR or just in DC? I could google but I'm pretty sure that someone here can tell me without giving the Duggars or TLC blog hits!
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Post by utmr on May 26, 2015 21:23:24 GMT
I read on FJ that Josh and Anna recently bought a house in AR. I also read that they owe quite a bit in back taxes. I'm sure his daddy will get him off the hook for that too. |
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Post by jumperhop on May 26, 2015 22:03:32 GMT
Y'all already said what I was thinking.
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Post by amom23 on May 26, 2015 22:54:44 GMT
The hole just keeps getting dug deeper for the Duggar family doesn't it?!?!
It's always amazed me how those parents can have such absolute power over their adult children. Do you think it's real or just for TV ratings? I mean it is one thing for your adult children to be living at home because they are still in college or job hunting, etc. but for 25yr old (Jana and John David) to have to live at home until marriage is very odd to somebody like me. It really comes across more like we need you to live at home so you can continue to cook, clean and raise your younger siblings. You'd think out of 19 kids at least one of them would balk at the family way and walk out that front door. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 23:08:06 GMT
The hole just keeps getting dug deeper for the Duggar family doesn't it?!?!
It's always amazed me how those parents can have such absolute power over their adult children. Do you think it's real or just for TV ratings? I mean it is one thing for your adult children to be living at home because they are still in college or job hunting, etc. but for 25yr old (Jana and John David) to have to live at home until marriage is very odd to somebody like me. It really comes across more like we need you to live at home so you can continue to cook, clean and raise your younger siblings. You'd think out of 19 kids at least one of them would balk at the family way and walk out that front door. My guess is sooner or later one will balk at some point after establishing an approved amount of independence. But the "price" will be very high. It will be a total "shunning" from all the family, church associates (the only people they have been allowed to make friends with) They have no school friends, they have no education. Jobs are acquired by family/parental and church influences. Even clothing is kept in a communal closet and doesn't belong to any one person so you won't be taking a suitcase of even the most basic items. I'd lay odds that the houses "given" to the married couples are actually held in dad's name and not the married couples name. IN those conditions it will be near impossible to walk out the door and walk away. |
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Post by MsKnit on May 27, 2015 0:01:33 GMT
I think the focus here is misplaced. First and foremost the victims need to get out of that house of horrors and get counseling. I don't think it would be a stretch to find out they have been brainwashed to think they were at fault - no, that is NOT my point of view, they were/are victims. As I have posted before I never watched the show. Are some of the girls still of the age where social services should be involved? I think some folks are getting their rocks off on this tragedy (Not directed to the OP, when the jokes and memes started to appear I got out of the other thread) and the victims abuse is getting lost as what should be the primary focus. On the monster thread, there is a link to an article that shows pages from Bill Gothard's group regarding how to handle sexual abuse in a family. Now that I think of it, I don't remember it referring to incest. You are correct in the girls being made to feel they were responsible for their brother's behavior. They were temptresses. In the documents, it specifically directs the victim to figure out what she did to tempt the abuser. It even mentions that little ones who have their diaper changed by the victim is providing temptation. I have a new laptop and have no clue how to link. Went from PC to Mac. Still learning...slowly. It was on my FB feed from a friend's status. It was eye-opening and infuriating and explained this whole mess. |
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Post by hop2 on May 27, 2015 1:34:48 GMT
I actually think the girls are pretty trapped. They have no access to money, they have no access to transpirtation. Do they even have valid ID to get a job? It's sad |
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Post by mallie on May 27, 2015 1:46:55 GMT
You misunderstand because part of the statement was omitted. You need to add "...unless my son is the perpetrator" to that sentence. See, it makes complete sense now, right? Yes. We are all of us equal, but some of us are more equal than others. Animal Farm, indeed, in Duggartown. |
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