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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 0:53:15 GMT
Is there a part-time job doing anything in your community so you can get your feet wet with childcare, etc before talking this giant leap? I know it's frustrating and I wish you the best with your decisions. I've been looking for a couple of months.
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Post by ~summer~ on May 31, 2015 3:50:41 GMT
I've had very long commutes in the past - ranging from flying every week to Texas for months on end - to commuting about an hour each way between SF and Palo Alto. It was worth it at the time because I was single and it didn't last too long and it was good for my career. At this point I would not be willing to commute more than an hour a day and I need the flexibility to work from home a few days per week. Long commutes every day would not be worth it.
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Post by jumperhop on May 31, 2015 3:56:05 GMT
I had a 30 minute one time. I kind of liked it. I got to sing along with the radio and the views were gorgeous. jen
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 31, 2015 4:27:21 GMT
My longest commute was about 45 minutes one way on a good day that would stretch out to 1:15 in the winter or if there was an accident along the way. That was on top of a nine hour day (set hours with a required hour long punched out lunch). It sucked, I hated it and it was NOT worth it and I didn't even have my kid yet at that point. Thankfully it was a temporary 3 month long involuntary assignment. I would never do that again.
I have had many more jobs with between a 15-25 minute commute one way, and I didn't like that either. I detest wasting time just getting from A to B and commuting by car is the worst because you can't do anything else while you're doing it. Even with the shorter commutes I would find myself calculating how much of my life I would never get back in a year because I was stuck in rush hour traffic far too often, plus I tend to get road ragey when I have to deal with idiot drivers and it makes my blood boil which isn't good either.
Now that I have a kid, I would really, REALLY hate having to waste all that time day in and day out. No amount of money can replace these early years with my little girl.
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Post by giatocj on May 31, 2015 12:35:57 GMT
I've worked for my company for over 25 years. When I started, way back when, our office was about 4 miles from my house and it was awesome. We (my boyfriend works there as well) could go home for lunch, feed and walk the dog and still be back with time to spare. Four years ago our office moved 15 miles away and it SUCKS. I absolutely hate it...sometime it can take 45 minutes to an hour to travel those 15 miles. It is definitely not worth it, but we are so close to our goal of moving to PA (less than 3 years to go), that we will just stick it out.
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Post by monklady123 on May 31, 2015 13:02:29 GMT
The longest commute I've had is eight months from Northern Virginia to northeast DC. Doesn't sound bad, or look bad if you look at a map. But in rush hour there is no good way. But it was worth it for me because this was a training program and I needed it for certification. Plus I knew it was only eight months and we can do anything for a temporary time. Fortunately I was assigned to outpatient surgery and ICU, both units where you can start work early. So I was able to leave home very early -- no later than 6:15 if I wanted to avoid the worst traffic. I'd get to the hospital by 7:00, get coffee, put in my hours and leave by 3:00. I'd get in more traffic on the way home at that hour, but still it wasn't as bad as it would have been at actual rush hour. The afternoon would take me at least an hour, maybe less if I was very lucky. Then my next training unit (we need four) was at a hospital here in Virginia, in the opposite direction of rush hour. That one took me about 30 minutes, plus time walking from the parking garage to the office to check in (it's a HUGE hospital complex, a regional trauma center). And then my reward, my last unit. A smaller hospital, opposite to the rush hour commute, ten minutes from my house, parking in a lot RIGHT NEXT to the door. omg. Now I'm going to apply for a job in NW DC, 45 minutes at least, I'm sure. I'm so torn about it, but I'm applying anyway. My dh has a 15-minute commute because although it's in DC it's just right across the bridge. So he doesn't have to drive through DC, just into it. We chose to buy a tiny house in this area over the much larger one we could have afforded way out in "Narnia" (as my ds calls anything "out west", lol), because of the commute for dh. A long commute is totally not worth it, in my opinion, unless it was something I absolutely had to do to support my kids.
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Post by scrappington on May 31, 2015 14:46:43 GMT
Ashley that's a long commute and that train isn't reliable at all. I live other side of Toronto from you. I drive 33 km one way. But in my area rate of pay would be less than half. My company pays my gas though. It is worth the commute for me. If my dh us working downtown on a site it can take him 3 he's to get home of course no sites are near union station so he can't use the train. Parking down town is ridiculous. I honestly don't know how parents do it. I'm gone 11 hrs a day. And coming home cooking and cleaning. I'm done. Also with commuting and day care are you just paying for that with your earnings.
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Post by raindancer on May 31, 2015 14:52:33 GMT
I work 9:30am to 5:30pm - a slightly later start so I can drive the kids to school. So I leave home at 8:30am and get home sometime after 6:30pm. I freakin hate it. It's hard to be organised when you're away from home for 10 hours every (week)day. I'm not sure that I can answer your question "Is it worth it?" I have to work to pay the bills. If I could find a job that paid the same but was closer to home I would leave my current job in a heartbeat.
Ashley, my 2 - 2.5 hours a day is awful, the idea of 4 - 6 hours commute every day makes me shudder. I just don't know how you could turn that much time into productive time. At the end of the day, you're still going to have to do all the things a SAHM has to do (cooking, cleaning, shopping etc) but you're going to have 12 hours less per day in which to do it. But I will say, the job you have described sounds so incredibly awesome. It's a field that I have always wished I was smart enough to get into. I don't know, I have the long commute and my dh doesn't. We are a team. He cooks dinners, etc. And kids are capable of doing daily tasks to keep the house in order. If both of you had a long commute, it could be an issue for sure, but then you just have to be really organized on the weekends, meal prep, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 14:56:37 GMT
I work 9:30am to 5:30pm - a slightly later start so I can drive the kids to school. So I leave home at 8:30am and get home sometime after 6:30pm. I freakin hate it. It's hard to be organised when you're away from home for 10 hours every (week)day. I'm not sure that I can answer your question "Is it worth it?" I have to work to pay the bills. If I could find a job that paid the same but was closer to home I would leave my current job in a heartbeat.
Ashley, my 2 - 2.5 hours a day is awful, the idea of 4 - 6 hours commute every day makes me shudder. I just don't know how you could turn that much time into productive time. At the end of the day, you're still going to have to do all the things a SAHM has to do (cooking, cleaning, shopping etc) but you're going to have 12 hours less per day in which to do it. But I will say, the job you have described sounds so incredibly awesome. It's a field that I have always wished I was smart enough to get into. It kind of makes me shudder, too. I do know that when I go back to work, there will have to be changes here. DH already gets the groceries on his way home from work -- so hopefully he could continue to do that. It's hard to plan when we don't know what/where/when his next job will be. No matter whether I get a job locally or away, I'll have to change the way dinners are handled. I find it really hard to make fast and easy, nutritious vegetarian dinners that we all find satisfying. Freezer meals might have to become a part of our life. Not sure how all the rest will be handled, although I suppose our weekends will have to be fuller of chores and shopping, instead of just being lazy like we are now.
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Post by Merge on May 31, 2015 14:59:41 GMT
Ashley, any chance your DH could commute while you are still looking for work, and then once you find a job, you could afford to move closer with your combined salaries? The quality of life issues you're facing with commuting so far, with four kids at home ... I'd move into a tiny house closer to the city before I'd take that on.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 15:00:48 GMT
Ashley that's a long commute and that train isn't reliable at all. I live other side of Toronto from you. I drive 33 km one way. But in my area rate of pay would be less than half. My company pays my gas though. It is worth the commute for me. If my dh us working downtown on a site it can take him 3 he's to get home of course no sites are near union station so he can't use the train. Parking down town is ridiculous. I honestly don't know how parents do it. I'm gone 11 hrs a day. And coming home cooking and cleaning. I'm done. Also with commuting and day care are you just paying for that with your earnings. I didn't know the train wasn't reliable.. I've only taken it a handful of times from Hamilton/Dundas to Toronto, for things like conferences and stuff, and never had a problem before. My parents will take care of our kids, and although we haven't discussed $$ yet, I am sure it would be reasonable and cheaper than most day cares. In September, 3 of our kids will be in school full time, so that will also help with the amount of childcare needed. Part of the decision is if having a career in my area of expertise is worth the time and money involved in getting there -- especially when the alternative would be a part time minimum wage job here that I don't want to do for the rest of my life. But, you're all right when you talk about missing out on my kids' lives. There is a reason why I've always made the sacrifice to stay at home... this whole thing is not an easy decision.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 15:04:10 GMT
Ashley, any chance your DH could commute while you are still looking for work, and then once you find a job, you could afford to move closer with your combined salaries? The quality of life issues you're facing with commuting so far, with four kids at home ... I'd move into a tiny house closer to the city before I'd take that on. Perhaps, but is honestly doubtful. It's really hard to say, because I don't know where DH will get a permanent career job. He's always commuted, so that's not really an issue for us, although we'd both prefer if he didn't have to! Housing prices where we live now are very affordable. To move to our old city, Hamilton, housing prices on average start at 3x more. To move to Toronto or the surrounding area is probably cost prohibitive, as even the most basic, small, run-down house starts at close to 6x what our house costs now. It's an option we can keep in mind, but there's also the possibility that DH may eventually get a job on the other side of the province, on the other side of our country, or in another country entirely.
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Post by scrappington on May 31, 2015 19:54:26 GMT
There is constant delays, stoppages. More so than you may realize
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 17:32:10 GMT
Oh my... I just found another really cool job opportunity, again, in downtown Toronto. This one would be a position in a hospital extracting stem cells from tumours, and also working bedside to collect stem cells from patients, saving the stem cells and then reinfusing at a later date.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jun 1, 2015 19:37:47 GMT
I think you being gone 14 hours a day would be very hard on quality of life for you and your family. It sounds incredibly stressful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 20:32:15 GMT
I think you being gone 14 hours a day would be very hard on quality of life for you and your family. It sounds incredibly stressful. I've thought a lot about this (not your reply specifically, just this same idea), and I do agree. But then, I started wondering... what's the difference between me wanting a career in something I'm passionate about and REALLY GOOD at, that will take me away from home for too long, and divorced parents who don't see their kids for 5 days a week? Or the military person who is deployed for months/years? Is it because the adults in both of those (fairly common) situations tend to be men, and I'm a woman and mother? I'm not confident that any of these situations are ideal for anyone involved-- parents, kids, the family as a whole. But I do know that I've never planned on "just" staying at home my entire life; we've sacrificed on "extras" that other families consider necessities, in order to make having a parent at home an option. I've spent ~8 years of my life in post-secondary school, and ~10 years of my life as a SAHM. I'm at that point where I need to feel like I'm contributing something and being productive and doing Good Work (other than raising kids who can count, read, and say please and thank you most of the time). I'm also at that point where I've now been out of school/work for 4 years, and I really need a job in my field or else I don't think anyone is going to want to hire me. If I don't start on a career in my field now, my other options are a minimum wage job (which I've done lots of before and I've always done when we've needed it) or to go back to school to start over in another field (maybe nursing or a medical technician of some type). And those would be huge hardships, too. My DH and my parents are both encouraging me to apply for these jobs, and I'm leaning towards doing it. I think there's actually a very slim chance I'll get any of them, but since I know I have the support of my entire family, I think I at least need to try. And with my parents looking after the girls, I will feel much better knowing how well they will be cared for, and how happy everyone will be. Thanks to everyone who has posted with their experience, opinions, advice, and encouragement.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jun 1, 2015 20:57:44 GMT
I think you being gone 14 hours a day would be very hard on quality of life for you and your family. It sounds incredibly stressful. I've thought a lot about this (not your reply specifically, just this same idea), and I do agree. But then, I started wondering... what's the difference between me wanting a career in something I'm passionate about and REALLY GOOD at, that will take me away from home for too long, and divorced parents who don't see their kids for 5 days a week? Or the military person who is deployed for months/years? Is it because the adults in both of those (fairly common) situations tend to be men, and I'm a woman and mother? To me the difference is that those people may not have a choice. I have a friend who was an RN and went back to school to become a nurse practitioner. She couldn't find a job as an NP and continued to work as an RN. She got to the point where she thought, "If I don't get an NP job NOW I never will be able to work as one." She got a job about 40 miles from her home and commuted by a walk/bus/train combo. She was gone roughly 12-14 hours per day. She did not have children. It almost destroyed her. She got up, went to work, got home, went to bed. She had no time for herself. That magical "me" time on the train was often spent dozing. She didn't get to exercise at all or do any of the things she had previously done to take care of herself. Her husband started out supportive but their marriage (and it was of about 10 years) fell apart. I'm not saying you aren't superwoman and can't do it. I'm not saying you're like my friend. I'm not saying you don't deserve a career in your field, or to be valued for your intellect and abilities. What I'm saying is that there is going to be a price.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 21:38:18 GMT
In Japan I had to commute an hour each way. Then walk from the train station to the school. That was a long ways away and I got sick of doing it after a while.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 1, 2015 21:43:26 GMT
My longest commute was an hour off commute hours 1.5-2 hours during commute. The "good" thing about the commute was I worked such long hours I was usually off commute. I would typically leave the house by 6 and return at 9. But sometimes the hours were even longer. I also traveled just about once a week - sometimes just overnight, sometimes for the whole week. It was absolutely worth it pre-kids. I loved my job, and don't regret that period of my life. I decided after my second was born that I wanted more time at home. The travel in particular was just not easy with kids. I'd often have something pop up and I'd have to leave the next day for 2-3 days. My husband was working from home at the time, but it was just too hard on him. I have many friends who still work long hours or travel extensively. The key to sanity seems to be a stay at home spouse or sufficient income to afford a full time nanny. It's great that your family is close, I'd think carefully about whether they are prepared for extended care with 4 kids. It's a ton of work, as you well know. It also completely changes the grandparent dynamic. I understand wanting to pursue a career that stimulates you and you're passionate about. I personally though would look seriously at the time/house tradeoff. I would live in an apartment to avoid a 4-6 hour daily commute - particularly if I had a family. That's just brutal.
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Post by moveablefeast on Jun 1, 2015 22:02:50 GMT
I think you being gone 14 hours a day would be very hard on quality of life for you and your family. It sounds incredibly stressful. I've thought a lot about this (not your reply specifically, just this same idea), and I do agree. But then, I started wondering... what's the difference between me wanting a career in something I'm passionate about and REALLY GOOD at, that will take me away from home for too long, and divorced parents who don't see their kids for 5 days a week? Or the military person who is deployed for months/years? Is it because the adults in both of those (fairly common) situations tend to be men, and I'm a woman and mother? I'm not confident that any of these situations are ideal for anyone involved-- parents, kids, the family as a whole. But I do know that I've never planned on "just" staying at home my entire life; we've sacrificed on "extras" that other families consider necessities, in order to make having a parent at home an option. I've spent ~8 years of my life in post-secondary school, and ~10 years of my life as a SAHM. I'm at that point where I need to feel like I'm contributing something and being productive and doing Good Work (other than raising kids who can count, read, and say please and thank you most of the time). I'm also at that point where I've now been out of school/work for 4 years, and I really need a job in my field or else I don't think anyone is going to want to hire me. If I don't start on a career in my field now, my other options are a minimum wage job (which I've done lots of before and I've always done when we've needed it) or to go back to school to start over in another field (maybe nursing or a medical technician of some type). And those would be huge hardships, too. My DH and my parents are both encouraging me to apply for these jobs, and I'm leaning towards doing it. I think there's actually a very slim chance I'll get any of them, but since I know I have the support of my entire family, I think I at least need to try. And with my parents looking after the girls, I will feel much better knowing how well they will be cared for, and how happy everyone will be. Thanks to everyone who has posted with their experience, opinions, advice, and encouragement. I think what I hear you saying is that families deal with all kinds of situations that are less than ideal, for a variety of reasons. And you think yours could withstand the demands for the long term benefit of career stability on your part. And that I totally agree with. My little family is withstanding my working and going to graduate school - it is many sacrifices (things like keeping a spotless house are at the bottom of my priority list for that reason) but I needed to do it - it was the only path that was going to take me where I really wanted to go and where my family ultimately needs me to be on the long term. I need to be able to pay for braces and cars and college and be able to make ends meet should I ever find myself alone for some unforeseen reason. Kids are resilient. Yes, they need you. I hear they need you more as Tweens than they did as toddlers. 14 hours a day is a terribly long time to be gone from home and family. It leaves you very little time together. But maybe you can really make the best of the time you will really have on the weekends. Lots of moms do it. You seem to really love your kids and I think that makes all the difference. I guess at the same time, the times it doesn't feel with it is when I'm exhausted on the weekends and have nothing to give. So you have to find some balance. Wishing you all the best.
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Post by eebud on Jun 1, 2015 22:50:03 GMT
I think you being gone 14 hours a day would be very hard on quality of life for you and your family. It sounds incredibly stressful. I've thought a lot about this (not your reply specifically, just this same idea), and I do agree. But then, I started wondering... what's the difference between me wanting a career in something I'm passionate about and REALLY GOOD at, that will take me away from home for too long, and divorced parents who don't see their kids for 5 days a week? Or the military person who is deployed for months/years? Is it because the adults in both of those (fairly common) situations tend to be men, and I'm a woman and mother? You said earlier that your DH commutes too. How long is he away from home every day? If he gets the job offer in Toronto that he interviewed for, will he also be gone 14 hours a day? If you are both commuting a long distance, you are both away from your kids pretty much all of your and their waking hours all week. I don't think this has anything to do with you being a woman and not a man. Most of those that I know of that have obligations that keep them away that many hours are doing something for a finite period of time. When that time is up, they go back to more normal hours. I wasn't a divorced mom but I was a single mom. DS had a few years when I was in school and working that I was gone for about 12 hours. This still left a few hours in the evening to spend with DS and it was also something that was going to come to an end. It doesn't sound like yours would come to an end because you probably would not be able to move closer. You said the pay would probably be about $30,000 to $35,000. The U.S. equivalent is about $24k to $28K. I would not do what you are talking about for that little amount of money unless I needed it to put food on the table and a roof over our heads. I would probably want to look at how much I was really bringing into the family after taxes and expenses were deducted. I understand wanting to work in your field and your time might be limited for being able to do that. It is not something I could do though.............. On the other hand, if DH worked more normal hours where the kids were with their dad at a reasonable hour, then I would go for it. ***ETA Well, I personally wouldn't go for it because I hate long commutes. But, if I were you and I really wanted to do this, then I would go for it. LOL
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Post by peasapie on Jun 1, 2015 23:34:17 GMT
These days I work mainly out of my home as a consultant, but when I was teaching it was a 45 minute ride each way on a good day. I didn't mind it, though, because it gave me a buffer zone of time alone, listening to music, before I got home to the demands of a household.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 1:10:11 GMT
I've thought a lot about this (not your reply specifically, just this same idea), and I do agree. But then, I started wondering... what's the difference between me wanting a career in something I'm passionate about and REALLY GOOD at, that will take me away from home for too long, and divorced parents who don't see their kids for 5 days a week? Or the military person who is deployed for months/years? Is it because the adults in both of those (fairly common) situations tend to be men, and I'm a woman and mother? To me the difference is that those people may not have a choice. I have a friend who was an RN and went back to school to become a nurse practitioner. She couldn't find a job as an NP and continued to work as an RN. She got to the point where she thought, "If I don't get an NP job NOW I never will be able to work as one." She got a job about 40 miles from her home and commuted by a walk/bus/train combo. She was gone roughly 12-14 hours per day. She did not have children. It almost destroyed her. She got up, went to work, got home, went to bed. She had no time for herself. That magical "me" time on the train was often spent dozing. She didn't get to exercise at all or do any of the things she had previously done to take care of herself. Her husband started out supportive but their marriage (and it was of about 10 years) fell apart. I'm not saying you aren't superwoman and can't do it. I'm not saying you're like my friend. I'm not saying you don't deserve a career in your field, or to be valued for your intellect and abilities. What I'm saying is that there is going to be a price. Yes, I'm sure there will be a price.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 1:15:24 GMT
My longest commute was an hour off commute hours 1.5-2 hours during commute. The "good" thing about the commute was I worked such long hours I was usually off commute. I would typically leave the house by 6 and return at 9. But sometimes the hours were even longer. I also traveled just about once a week - sometimes just overnight, sometimes for the whole week. It was absolutely worth it pre-kids. I loved my job, and don't regret that period of my life. I decided after my second was born that I wanted more time at home. The travel in particular was just not easy with kids. I'd often have something pop up and I'd have to leave the next day for 2-3 days. My husband was working from home at the time, but it was just too hard on him. I have many friends who still work long hours or travel extensively. The key to sanity seems to be a stay at home spouse or sufficient income to afford a full time nanny. The travelling would be really hard! I won't have to do anything like that with the jobs I'm looking at. They have offered (I didn't ask), and want to do it. An apartment would actually cost us more money than our mortgage here does. It's also possible that after a bit (year? two? I don't know!) that we could buy a house closer to Toronto that would cut the commute time in half. I don't think we'd ever be able to live in Toronto or the GTA (and frankly, I don't really want to) and even if we did, commuting to downtown would still easily be an hour+. Honestly -- I get the concerns. I really do. I find the idea of being away from home 5 days a week nearly heartbreaking. But I also feel like I don't have any options right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 1:19:38 GMT
I think what I hear you saying is that families deal with all kinds of situations that are less than ideal, for a variety of reasons. And you think yours could withstand the demands for the long term benefit of career stability on your part. And that I totally agree with. My little family is withstanding my working and going to graduate school - it is many sacrifices (things like keeping a spotless house are at the bottom of my priority list for that reason) but I needed to do it - it was the only path that was going to take me where I really wanted to go and where my family ultimately needs me to be on the long term. I need to be able to pay for braces and cars and college and be able to make ends meet should I ever find myself alone for some unforeseen reason. Kids are resilient. Yes, they need you. I hear they need you more as Tweens than they did as toddlers. 14 hours a day is a terribly long time to be gone from home and family. It leaves you very little time together. But maybe you can really make the best of the time you will really have on the weekends. Lots of moms do it. You seem to really love your kids and I think that makes all the difference. I guess at the same time, the times it doesn't feel with it is when I'm exhausted on the weekends and have nothing to give. So you have to find some balance. Wishing you all the best. Thanks, moveablefeast. You are always so thoughtful. I've BTDT with grad school -- it's a special kind of brutal, isn't it? I worked 60-80 hours a week outside of the home then, too. But it was doable because I just had to, and also because I knew it was for a finite period. I do adore my lovely little girls more than anything in this world, which is part of the reason I want to do this, and also entirely the reason I'm terrified of trying it at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 1:26:09 GMT
You said the pay would probably be about $30,000 to $35,000. The U.S. equivalent is about $24k to $28K. I would not do what you are talking about for that little amount of money unless I needed it to put food on the table and a roof over our heads. I would probably want to look at how much I was really bringing into the family after taxes and expenses were deducted. I understand wanting to work in your field and your time might be limited for being able to do that. It is not something I could do though.............. On the other hand, if DH worked more normal hours where the kids were with their dad at a reasonable hour, then I would go for it. ***ETA Well, I personally wouldn't go for it because I hate long commutes. But, if I were you and I really wanted to do this, then I would go for it. LOL On DH commuting.. that's varied by year and also season. In grad school he was gone 12+ hours a day; he is also gone almost that long during the spring-fall season some days when he has to go to a field site far away. For the past year he's worked from home/a coffee shop writing grants and papers and stuff, so he's been around more. We have no idea where his next job will be... he's applied for one in Toronto, so he'd be gone 12-14 hours a day with that one. Or, there's a very good possibility he will get his previous contract back (the board meeting to approve his next project is coming up in a few weeks, and then there will be a 6-8 week wait to see if he is awarded the grant he's spent the past 3 months working on). So, if he gets his old contract back he'll probably be able to work at home some days, travel to his university office some days, and spend part of the year driving all over the province doing field work. It's all very unpredictable at this point. I found out that one of these jobs pays almost 2x what I thought it would, so that makes the possibility of moving maybe a little more likely. (Although I doubt we could manage it for a year or two).
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Post by my3freaks on Jun 2, 2015 23:34:40 GMT
Did you hear anything from the job you applied for on impulse with the product idea drawing? Not sure if that description makes any sense,I can't remember the exact details, but it sounded promising when you told us about it.
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Oct 7, 2024 1:26:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 0:22:34 GMT
Did you hear anything from the job you applied for on impulse with the product idea drawing? Not sure if that description makes any sense,I can't remember the exact details, but it sounded promising when you told us about it. Good memory! Thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I have not heard anything. I expected to hear from him by the end of last week.
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