caro
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Post by caro on Jun 1, 2015 0:16:57 GMT
Yeah, your brother is a moron. I wouldn't be going on vacation with him. THIS!!! And I certainly would NOT be paying his way...nope Yes to this. What a foolish thing to do. So many times people are injured or killed when a gun owner is irresponsible like this.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 1, 2015 0:24:50 GMT
I would have a huge issue with anyone having a gun in my house without my explicit permission... and I don't let my daughter spend time in the homes of people who have guns. I would be pissed bout him pulling it out!!! That's the issue right there. You want to have guns all over your house, great do it, that's your choice. Do not ever expect to be allowed in my house with one. I'd be livid too in your shoes Yubon. To be there and have your kid there and not know there were guns around in your own parents house is inexcusable and a very worthy situation of the F word.
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Post by trainscrapper on Jun 1, 2015 0:30:26 GMT
My husband and I both carry concealed, even at home. 100% of home invasions happen at home That said, your brother is an idiot. No responsibly armed citizen would ever...EVER pull their weapon unless s/he intended to eliminate a threat. Carrying is not a joke, not something to brag about. In fact, nearly nobody knows that either of us carries. Hence the "concealed" part. Your brother broke every one of the four rules of carrying a weapon. You have ever right to be mad and to think that he's dangerois and unfit to carry a weapon, because he is. My husband and I both have a carry permit, and he has his 98% of the time, but you would never know it. I have mine but because I am with him most of the time I don't carry as often. It is people that do exactly as your brother that give those that are responsible a bad rep, as others have said. It is being irresponsible with something that demands respect that can/will lead to danger. Did he not listen during his carry class? As said above, he broke quite a few rules.
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freebird
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Post by freebird on Jun 1, 2015 1:04:48 GMT
I carry, so does my husband. I've never had the urge to whip it out as a joke or otherwise. Your brother is a dumbass and gives the rest of us a bad name.
FWIW, I take mine out of my purse when I know I'll be around kids, they just have a way of getting into shit. My husband keeps his on his body.
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LeaP
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Post by LeaP on Jun 1, 2015 1:20:46 GMT
Do amusement parks allow guns these days? I remember a million years ago going through a metal detector at Great Adventure in New Jersey. It seems quaint now, but they were having problems with knives.
Insofar as drawing the gun, I would have been pissed too. It seems so irresponsible and immature. You should get him an Airsoft gun so he has something to wave around with impunity. Nerf if you are feeling mean!
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scrapaddie
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Post by scrapaddie on Jun 1, 2015 3:09:08 GMT
His carrying a weapon would not even be a blip on my radar. I would be absolutely pissed that he threatened to kill 6 live animals for absolutely no reason. The cat thing doesn't bother me. He would never do that. It's the idiocy of whipping it out that concerns me. I live in an area where it is not uncommon for jerks to use feral cats ( or pets if they are out... Who can tell the difference?) for target practice..... I would not find this funny or acceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 4:45:12 GMT
I would've freaked the eff out and gone postal on him..especially if my son were there!
I would've then apologized to my parents for the display that took place in their home,
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 4:48:32 GMT
I would've freaked the eff out and gone postal on him..especially if my son were there! I would've then apologized to my parents for the display that took place in their home, Which is ironic. Do you know how that term got started and what event it came from? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 4:57:24 GMT
If you ccw and you're not ex police or military, I don't trust you. I don't know if Mr & Mrs freebird have had appropriate training and psych evaluations, etc... I won't allow my kids around you. I'll stay away from you.
Good call Yubon. And F word six ways since Sunday. I'm with ya.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 4:57:32 GMT
I would've freaked the eff out and gone postal on him..especially if my son were there! I would've then apologized to my parents for the display that took place in their home, Which is ironic. Do you know how that term got started and what event it came from? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postalNope...never new that..learn something new every day.
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Post by gryroagain on Jun 1, 2015 5:19:05 GMT
I care for a feral cat colony, and we have a cat at the vet missing an eye and hanging on to life by a thread because someone shot her. Her name is Brownie, and she is 8 years old and she didn't deserve that, no cat deserves to be target practice, and yes there is a subculture of people who hate cats and will harm them. I'm sure you know him and know if he is one of those types, but that is so totally uncool and frightening. I personally wouldn't let my dog around that person, let alone my kids.
I'm a veteran, I've used more weapons than I can count. In my experience, those who flash their weapon, pull it out, brag about shooting animals- are NOT responsible enough to carry one. Invite a friend to Cedar Point to use the tickets, and do not let this jackass into your life.
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momto4kiddos
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jun 1, 2015 11:01:56 GMT
The fact that he had the gun on him wouldn't bother me so much as the fact that he took it out and pointed it at the computer screen for no good reason. Keep it away fine, start handling it and i'm not so fine.
My dad carried a gun when I was young (seemed more socially acceptable then.) No one blinked an eye and it was sometimes visible if his shirt rode up. As kids we were taught never to touch it and to this day i've never touched one of his guns (currently in a gun case at the house.) We were at an event with a cousin recently and he's been in the service, does security type work. I noticed he had a gun in his waistband when his shirt rode up. I certainly couldn't have been the only one to notice it that day, no one seemed concerned. As long as it stayed put and he didn't have it out, i'm good.
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momto4kiddos
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jun 1, 2015 11:05:16 GMT
I care for a feral cat colony, and we have a cat at the vet missing an eye and hanging on to life by a thread because someone shot her. Her name is Brownie, and she is 8 years old and she didn't deserve that, no cat deserves to be target practice, and yes there is a subculture of people who hate cats and will harm them. I'm sure you know him and know if he is one of those types, but that is so totally uncool and frightening. I personally wouldn't let my dog around that person, let alone my kids. I'm a veteran, I've used more weapons than I can count. In my experience, those who flash their weapon, pull it out, brag about shooting animals- are NOT responsible enough to carry one. Invite a friend to Cedar Point to use the tickets, and do not let this jackass into your life. Sorry to hear about the kitty, that is just so sad that anyone could do such a thing! I think the bold part may be why someone carrying a weapon doesn't bother me....those who i've known to carry a weapon were responsible for it. Those flashing it about aren't responsible and shouldn't be carrying one.
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SweetieBsMom
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jun 1, 2015 11:09:03 GMT
Honestly, the people who carried concealed and whip it out are immature and shouldn't have a permit. If the person is doing it right, it's concealed and you'd never know.
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Post by elaine on Jun 1, 2015 11:19:27 GMT
If you can't back out of the vacation, I would communicate clearly that your expectation, since you are paying, is that no weapons are allowed on the trip. That you don't want your son around their guns.
If they feel unsafe enough that they don't want to come without their guns, they should stay home.
Your trip, your rules.
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Post by bratkar on Jun 1, 2015 11:55:51 GMT
Yubon, is he an Ohio resident? Other factor is depending on that state you are from if there is reciprocity for him to even bring / carry his gun over state lines. And no I do not believe you are allowed to carry in Cedar Point.
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Nanner
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Post by Nanner on Jun 1, 2015 12:06:39 GMT
I would 100% be uninviting him from your trip. I would also not be around him when he is has his gun.
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Post by katieanna on Jun 1, 2015 12:35:48 GMT
I have nothing against conceal and carry for those who are permitted to do so. But I think your brother acted foolishly and irresponsibly.
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Post by tuva42 on Jun 1, 2015 12:48:20 GMT
I would be very surprised if your brother is allowed into any amusement park with a gun.
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Post by auntkelly on Jun 1, 2015 12:52:04 GMT
Does your brother have a license to carry a concealed weapon? His behavior makes me wonder if he has taken a course on handgun safety.
I wouldn't associate w/ someone who I knew was carrying a firearm illegally.
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bhess
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Post by bhess on Jun 3, 2015 2:15:11 GMT
Ok so yes, your brother is an idiot, no doubt. Maybe he shouldn't carry.
For those of us that do carry and are responsible (some of us daily, everywhere we go) we wouldn't do something like that. For those of you that lead on to being against guns, this is a free country, it's one of our natural born rights, in fact it's so free, your free to move to a country that has no guns. As for only allowing ex military or police into your home, you do know there have been many police and ex military who have shot themselves, others, or have had accidental discharges (in fact, more times than those who have legal carry permits, not knocking police, we need them in society and most do a damn fine job). While we're speaking of police, ask most police how they feel about armed citizens. Your likely to hear praise on ccw holders, how were their best backup, and how your with an attacker for 90 seconds on average, takes police 7 minutes on average to respond, your best shot at surviving is either by the help of a ccw permit holder or your own concealed handgun. I have been given lectures by enough police officers about not carrying even for just a trip to the gas station that I always carry now.
My point, think a little more before you respond, and try not to post a shallow poorly thought response.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 3, 2015 2:21:49 GMT
My point, think a little more before you respond, and try not to post a shallow poorly thought response. I'm not entirely anti-gun, not by a long shot. But I think it's basic courtesy to ask before assuming your firearm is welcome in my home. Especially if there are children present. People's dogs aren't allowed in my home and their guns sure as hell aren't. To waltz in with one even properly secured and concealed goes against my wishes as a host and is rude and inappropriate. I don't think that just because some people on this thread have an opinion different than yours makes it "shallow and poorly thought out" at all.
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Post by elaine on Jun 3, 2015 3:55:00 GMT
Ok so yes, your brother is an idiot, no doubt. Maybe he shouldn't carry. For those of us that do carry and are responsible (some of us daily, everywhere we go) we wouldn't do something like that. For those of you that lead on to being against guns, this is a free country, it's one of our natural born rights, in fact it's so free, your free to move to a country that has no guns. As for only allowing ex military or police into your home, you do know there have been many police and ex military who have shot themselves, others, or have had accidental discharges (in fact, more times than those who have legal carry permits, not knocking police, we need them in society and most do a damn fine job). While we're speaking of police, ask most police how they feel about armed citizens. Your likely to hear praise on ccw holders, how were their best backup, and how your with an attacker for 90 seconds on average, takes police 7 minutes on average to respond, your best shot at surviving is either by the help of a ccw permit holder or your own concealed handgun. I have been given lectures by enough police officers about not carrying even for just a trip to the gas station that I always carry now. My point, think a little more before you respond, and try not to post a shallow poorly thought response. And you are free to move to a country where people aren't allowed to complain about guns or voice their opinions. Freedom of Speech is such a part of our country that its amendment comes before freedom to bear arms. Somewhat ironic to complain about people exercising their constitutional rights, while trying to defend yours by saying "love it or leave it"... Just sayin'. You don't like Freedom of Speech, there are plenty of places around the world where you can live that will be glad to deny it to you.
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Post by loco coco on Jun 3, 2015 4:04:36 GMT
I would have no problem with him carrying, that's his right. The problem is him pulling it out as a joke and I wouldn't be ok with that
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Post by samantha25 on Jun 3, 2015 4:45:33 GMT
My husband and I both carry concealed, even at home. 100% of home invasions happen at home That said, your brother is an idiot. No responsibly armed citizen would ever...EVER pull their weapon unless s/he intended to eliminate a threat. Carrying is not a joke, not something to brag about. In fact, nearly nobody knows that either of us carries. Hence the "concealed" part. Your brother broke every one of the four rules of carrying a weapon. You have ever right to be mad and to think that he's dangerois and unfit to carry a weapon, because he is. I'm trying to be funny, to me your second statement was funny because you didn't give an alternative situation. Of course, home invasions happen at home... get it? (Icon, smiley face, don't know how to do it on a kindle)
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Post by eats_crayons on Jun 3, 2015 17:02:59 GMT
It's supposed to be funny It's my answer to "why would you carry a gun in your own home? You live in a nice neighborhood and your home is safe etc". I carry at home because there are still risks there that I can mitigate with a tool.
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freebird
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Post by freebird on Jun 3, 2015 18:53:30 GMT
If you ccw and you're not ex police or military, I don't trust you. I don't know if Mr & Mrs freebird have had appropriate training and psych evaluations, etc... I won't allow my kids around you. I'll stay away from you. Good call Yubon. And F word six ways since Sunday. I'm with ya.
Well, Ok for you then. You're missing out on some really nice people.
My husband is ex military, and ex police so I guess that meets your qualifications. Also, in Missouri where I reside you have to have training to have a ccw license, which I do. I also go to the range on a regular basis, and FTR, I can group nice and tight.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 3, 2015 19:53:07 GMT
I know several people who conceal carry and have no issue with them carrying. They've also never whipped out their gun and acted like an ass about it though either. Yep, same for me.
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tiffanytwisted
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Jun 3, 2015 22:37:30 GMT
So let me get this straight, Dad is mad about the use of a swear word, but not about the waving around of a loaded gun w/kids nearby. Do I have that right?
And while it's his right to carry, it's your right not to feel comfortable w/it in the hotel room you're paying for. I would definitely rescind my invitation because I wouldn't trust him not to bring it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 23:13:04 GMT
Ok so yes, your brother is an idiot, no doubt. Maybe he shouldn't carry. For those of us that do carry and are responsible (some of us daily, everywhere we go) we wouldn't do something like that. For those of you that lead on to being against guns, this is a free country, it's one of our natural born rights, in fact it's so free, your free to move to a country that has no guns. As for only allowing ex military or police into your home, you do know there have been many police and ex military who have shot themselves, others, or have had accidental discharges (in fact, more times than those who have legal carry permits, not knocking police, we need them in society and most do a damn fine job). While we're speaking of police, ask most police how they feel about armed citizens. Your likely to hear praise on ccw holders, how were their best backup, and how your with an attacker for 90 seconds on average, takes police 7 minutes on average to respond, your best shot at surviving is either by the help of a ccw permit holder or your own concealed handgun. I have been given lectures by enough police officers about not carrying even for just a trip to the gas station that I always carry now. My point, think a little more before you respond, and try not to post a shallow poorly thought response. A couple of comments. 1. If one is carrying a gun they are not welcome in my home. If I'm out and about with someone and find they are carrying a gun I will leave at that point. I don't care who they are. 2. I always shake my head when I hear people refer to themselves as "responsible" gun owners. Folks you are only a responsible gun owner until you are not. It has been proven time and time again that those who consider themselves as "responsible" gun owners are the ones involved in accidents involving guns. Especially when those accidents involve children. Oh and both of the comments were very well thought out I assure you.
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