anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 28, 2015 9:03:55 GMT
The beach massacre in Tunisia happened two days ago, 39 dead, including 15 Brits and one Irish National.
The attack in France and the bombing in the mosque in Kuwait happened within a short time frame of the beach attack.
No-one has started a thread about these atrocities. Until now.
Discuss
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Post by pjaye on Jun 28, 2015 9:23:21 GMT
I don't see your point? I've certainly seen it on the news and read about it online and discussed it in real life. Not sure why there is any meaning behind not starting a thread here about it? This isn't everyone's main form of social interaction, so just because there is no thread about it means diddly squat, doesn't mean I didn't know about it or didn't care...so that's probably true for others as well.
Posting "oh no how awful" on a message board really means nothing.
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Post by gar on Jun 28, 2015 9:24:55 GMT
Discuss the atrocities or the fact that no one started a thread about them?
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 28, 2015 9:29:52 GMT
My point is, that other tragedies have happened, usually involving guns and/or religious fundamentalists or nut cases and threads are started, usually running to several pages. Yet there was nothing on these events. Had me wondering why? What was different?
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Post by gar on Jun 28, 2015 9:33:03 GMT
I wonder how much it has been reported in America?
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Post by imkat on Jun 28, 2015 9:47:53 GMT
I'm in the US and saw it in my Facebook feed yesterday. Can't remember if it was from the NYT or the Guardian. Terrible.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jun 28, 2015 9:54:29 GMT
I have not seen the news for several days as I was out of town. Off to Google. Thanks for posting.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 28, 2015 9:58:06 GMT
I'm in USA, both are being reported. I've had a lot going on, so It could just be me, but there's been more coverage of our two domestic current events: AME church shooting (conf. Flag) and SCOTUS decision. Those are huge for our country and feel more personal and in some way each effect people we know.
So I've read, or seen on TV, more about those two. The international events I've "listened" on radio or TV while doing other things, bit haven't sought out more.
Until yesterday. My husband had his back to the television at the diner during breakfast yesterday (Saturday AM). My face must have reflected the horror of the beach footage when I saw it first time. Horror is all I can say. I'm sure we'd be talking about it with RefuPeas if we didn't have such landmarks issues happening. This is just my experience and explanation, others might be different.
It's extremely early morning here and I can't sleep, hope this is coherent!
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Post by hop2 on Jun 28, 2015 12:15:56 GMT
I saw it on the news. But I've been buried under a mountain of cooking for my DD's party. Anyway these types of attacks are tragic and horrific.
I have avioded the topic on FB and the Internet because too many yahoos have obnoxious comments like 'maybe now the rest of the world will wake up to how bad Isis is' I can't tolerate these types of comments they are brash and rude and stupid. As if others haven't dealt with it or taken it seriously.
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Post by lesley on Jun 28, 2015 12:26:47 GMT
My son's best friend came round to walk Turriff yesterday, as DS is away for a few days. He and his family were due to go to Tunisia on Thursday, and Thomson's are working to get them an alternative holiday. The killings are tragic, but the ongoing effect on the country's economy is likely to be devastating.
OT, but do you think there would be the same rush to cancel holidays if something like this happened in Magaluf or Benidorm?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 12:40:44 GMT
I was watching television when the "Breaking News" came on and have seen and read other news reports of it since.
I think it's horrible. But I'm pretty sure that had I started a thread saying "gosh...that's horrible" someone...or someone(s) would've accused me of posting a vague thread and asked what I was trying to start and then gone on to insist that I must've meant something by it as if that person knows every thought in my head.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 28, 2015 12:46:48 GMT
I'm aware of it. But it happened the same day the marriage decision was handed down so of course it was over shadowed. Doesn't make it any less tragic.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jun 28, 2015 13:52:33 GMT
It was all over the news here. I happened to be watching the news when the attack in France was announced. Then they mentioned the other two attacks. Then like others said, the gay marriage decision came in and that became the story of the day. I follow BBC News. The pictures from the beach are very upsetting. Those poor people did not have a chance. And the attack in France was so gruesome. It's awful. My heart goes out to all the victims.
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Post by peasapie on Jun 28, 2015 13:54:43 GMT
The beach massacre in Tunisia happened two days ago, 39 dead, including 15 Brits and one Irish National. The attack in France and the bombing in the mosque in Kuwait happened within a short time frame of the beach attack. No-one has started a thread about these atrocities. Until now. Discuss Why haven't you brought it up sooner? What is your opinion?
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Post by anxiousmom on Jun 28, 2015 14:01:54 GMT
I wonder how much it has been reported in America? A lot. Or at least it has been on CNN. (I also follow the BBC twitter feed so it has been all over that.) It was appalling. The beheading in France was absolutely horrible. The bombing was terrible. There was also a hideous fire in a Taiwanese water park where over 500 people where burned. All kinds of awfulness happening in the world.
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Post by elaine on Jun 28, 2015 14:13:24 GMT
We haven't had any threads about the SIX shark attacks off the North Carolina coast in shallow water in the past two weeks yet either.
The Tunisia attack was horrific, I have seen the footage on CNN. I know less about the bombed Mosque or the attack in France.
If there is something you would like to see discussed here, simply start a thread.
With the two big Supreme Court decisions handed down this week, many people in the USA have been focused on those.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jun 28, 2015 14:31:48 GMT
I agree, elaine. If someone wants to start a thread, go ahead. I admit that I'm not one to start threads, but if there's something that I want to discuss, and there isn't a thread, then I will start one. And I just saw that another person was attacked by a shark in North Carolina. What the hell? I know it happens, but they are happening so close together!
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jun 28, 2015 14:33:11 GMT
Both have been reported in the U.S. media.. Sadly, I think we are becoming desensitized with each terrorist attack.
Last weekend DS was home with several friends including a study abroad student from France. We visited the south of France, including Lyon and then spent a few days in Paris. That was last October and we felt there was a heightened sense of security in Paris. All the service trucks to the hotel were inspected before they could make their delivery and French security with rifles around major tourist attractions.
The attack in Tunisia was heinous, those poor souls taking a holiday.
What will it take before leaders in the world agree to take action to root out and destroy this evil?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 14:37:46 GMT
It's Snowsilver's job to bitch us out when we don't post significant news stories in a timely manner. In any event, you may want to take a look at her thread from months ago. Posters did a good job of explaining why they didn't/don't start news threads. Perhaps someone could find a link.
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Post by pyccku on Jun 28, 2015 14:38:13 GMT
I've definitely been following it. But I don't particularly care to come to NSBR to start a "oh how horrible, what a tragedy" thread. Honestly, what more can be said about it other than it was horrific and awful?
I just got back from France a couple of weeks ago. They have been very vigilant as far as checking bags, etc. when going in to possible targets. But really, all the vigilance in the world can't stop some idiot with a gun from showing up somewhere like a beach, or the area under the Eiffel Tower and opening fire. Sure, they check you when you go IN to the places - but there are huge crowds waiting to go through security that would be easy targets, just like people on the beach were. Now they have upgraded their vigipirate program (kind of like the red/orange etc. we have here) to the next higher level, I'm not sure exactly that changes things on the ground for tourists.
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Post by elaine on Jun 28, 2015 14:39:16 GMT
I agree, elaine. If someone wants to start a thread, go ahead. I admit that I'm not one to start threads, but if there's something that I want to discuss, and there isn't a thread, then I will start one. And I just saw that another person was attacked by a shark in North Carolina. What the hell? I know it happens, but they are happening so close together! Each time I see news of shark attack in North Carolina (and since I live in the state just to the North, we get good coverage), I think they must be talking about a previous one, but then I am shocked to hear it is a new one. 6 separate attacks in 2 weeks. There is something so primally terrifying about shark attacks.
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Post by conchita on Jun 28, 2015 14:47:47 GMT
Anytime you begin a thread in this manner, it steers away from what should be the focus of discussion. Tsk tsk!
I read a lot of local, national and international news from varied sources. I had seen reports of the attacks (Kuwait & France) on the news but only read about the horrific massacre in Tunisia in an international news source online. There was a slight delay in reporting it on the news here from what I saw.
This guy was young, he hid his weapon in a parasol and chose his victims while he walked/talked among tourists on the beach. At the time when I read he had murdered 37 people. The images of all those people on the beach...words cannot describe the level of depravity one person can cause in such a short period of time. I took no comfort in seeing him shot dead on the street. No comfort because this isn't the first atrocity and it will not be the last. But my heart hurts for all those who died and all those who survived.
The U.S. IS on alert, police are patrolling the streets and we've been advised of a possible threat occurring on our Independance Day festivities here. So, if people are not aware, they should be. Worldwide. Military families are constantly taught to remain vigilant, be aware of your surroundings. This is the reality of all people worldwide now in this age when war and terror is being waged on citizens and not the battlefield.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 15:05:49 GMT
I read about the Tunisia attacks earlier this week.. they always catch my eye in the news because I know someone from Tunisia.
These horrific acts are just that -- horrific. And distressing, not only for the sheer violence, but because it seems like a difficult battle. How do we stop this?
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 28, 2015 16:03:00 GMT
The beach massacre in Tunisia happened two days ago, 39 dead, including 15 Brits and one Irish National. The attack in France and the bombing in the mosque in Kuwait happened within a short time frame of the beach attack. No-one has started a thread about these atrocities. Until now. Discuss Why haven't you brought it up sooner? What is your opinion? Read my second post in the thread. I repeat that I am just curious as to why some tragedies are more discussionworthy than others on the forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 16:06:37 GMT
My point is, that other tragedies have happened, usually involving guns and/or religious fundamentalists or nut cases and threads are started, usually running to several pages. Yet there was nothing on these events. Had me wondering why? What was different? What was different... I think people don't pay as much attention to things that seem removed/irrelevant to their situation. Honestly... there are multiple, horrible tragedies that happen every day around the world, and the human brain just CANNOT get incensed about every single one. It's not heartless, we're just not wired to maintain that high degree of upset and worry that would be required to be invested in every tragic event worldwide.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 28, 2015 19:04:46 GMT
My point is, that other tragedies have happened, usually involving guns and/or religious fundamentalists or nut cases and threads are started, usually running to several pages. Yet there was nothing on these events. Had me wondering why? What was different? What was different... I think people don't pay as much attention to things that seem removed/irrelevant to their situation. Honestly... there are multiple, horrible tragedies that happen every day around the world, and the human brain just CANNOT get incensed about every single one. It's not heartless, we're just not wired to maintain that high degree of upset and worry that would be required to be invested in every tragic event worldwide. [] And when you have big events that directly effect you and your loved ones like the two SCOTUS decisions (healthcare and marriage) they get attention. A generation ago it would have taken several days to get images of the international events. Sometimes our lives can't handle ALL the information coming in, whether it's good or bad. And sometimes orthodontist and soccer practice and physical therapy ...and..and... trump them all!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 19:07:08 GMT
My point is, that other tragedies have happened, usually involving guns and/or religious fundamentalists or nut cases and threads are started, usually running to several pages. Yet there was nothing on these events. Had me wondering why? What was different? What was different... I think people don't pay as much attention to things that seem removed/irrelevant to their situation. Honestly... there are multiple, horrible tragedies that happen every day around the world, and the human brain just CANNOT get incensed about every single one. It's not heartless, we're just not wired to maintain that high degree of upset and worry that would be required to be invested in every tragic event worldwide. Whilst I agree with you on the multiple tragedies around the world each day Ashley but what makes this so horrible & raw to us is that these people who were on that beach were specifically targeted because they were British. Out of the 38 that were killed officials reckon that the number of British deaths will be in the high 20's if not in the 30's. There have been reports from survivors confirming that he was specifically seeking out British people. There are a number that haven't yet been identified because they had no identification with them on the beach.Relatives here have reported that they haven't heard from them but sadly it takes time to identify the bodies that were taken to different locations when it happened. Tunisia and in particular Sousse, is a very popular vacation destination for many many British people throughout the year. The terrorist knew exactly who he was after!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 19:08:58 GMT
What was different... I think people don't pay as much attention to things that seem removed/irrelevant to their situation. Honestly... there are multiple, horrible tragedies that happen every day around the world, and the human brain just CANNOT get incensed about every single one. It's not heartless, we're just not wired to maintain that high degree of upset and worry that would be required to be invested in every tragic event worldwide. Whilst I agree with you on the multiple tragedies around the world each day Ashley but what makes this so horrible & raw to us is that these people who were on that beach were specifically targeted because they were British. Out of the 38 that were killed officials reckon that the number of British deaths will be in the high 20's if not in the 30's. There have been reports from survivors confirming that he was specifically seeking out British people. There are a number that haven't yet been identified because they had no identification with them on the beach.Relatives here have reported that they haven't heard from them but sadly it takes time to identify the bodies that were taken to different locations when it happened. Tunisia and in particular Sousse, is a very popular vacation destination for many many British people throughout the year. The terrorist knew exactly who he was after! But that's sort of my point... this particular tragedy is more relevant to you and the OP because of your ties to it; the majority of Peas are American, and I'm willing to bet the majority of Americans (not necessarily Peas, just Americans in general) don't even know what/where Tunisia is!
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Post by conchita on Jun 28, 2015 20:02:03 GMT
What was different... I think people don't pay as much attention to things that seem removed/irrelevant to their situation. Honestly... there are multiple, horrible tragedies that happen every day around the world, and the human brain just CANNOT get incensed about every single one. It's not heartless, we're just not wired to maintain that high degree of upset and worry that would be required to be invested in every tragic event worldwide. Whilst I agree with you on the multiple tragedies around the world each day Ashley but what makes this so horrible & raw to us is that these people who were on that beach were specifically targeted because they were British. Out of the 38 that were killed officials reckon that the number of British deaths will be in the high 20's if not in the 30's. There have been reports from survivors confirming that he was specifically seeking out British people. There are a number that haven't yet been identified because they had no identification with them on the beach.Relatives here have reported that they haven't heard from them but sadly it takes time to identify the bodies that were taken to different locations when it happened. Tunisia and in particular Sousse, is a very popular vacation destination for many many British people throughout the year. The terrorist knew exactly who he was after! I agree with you @dottyscrapper. I said earlier, this is a worldwide concern. This time British citizens were specifically targeted. Not too long ago it was the French. They're burying many more in Kuwait today. We've had events in the U.S. and Canada. This is a war being waged on citizens and not on battlefields. This happened in Tunisia, but it could and has happened anywhere. I was honestly hoping one of our UK peas would start a thread. Not just to offer condolences but because it is a worldwide concern worthy of discussion. And not that this is an excuse but it truly has been an exhausting week with some really good news and some really bad news being reported. We've had 2 convicts escape, one shot dead, the other on the run. We've had the ACA and Fair Housing issue. We're still burying and mourning the loss of Rev. Pinckney and his parishioners. The president gave an inspiring eulogy. We're fighting over the symbolism of the confederate flag. Shark attacks in knee deep water, 6 in 2 weeks. Reports of about 5 or 6 predominantly black churches being targeted by arsonists. Same sex marriage just became marriage period. ....And it appears the 2nd escaped convict has been shot and taken into custody in Canada. General advice when starting a thread: Leave out the criticism if you want the discussion to stay on course.
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Post by gar on Jun 28, 2015 20:17:53 GMT
Whilst I agree with you on the multiple tragedies around the world each day Ashley but what makes this so horrible & raw to us is that these people who were on that beach were specifically targeted because they were British. Out of the 38 that were killed officials reckon that the number of British deaths will be in the high 20's if not in the 30's. There have been reports from survivors confirming that he was specifically seeking out British people. There are a number that haven't yet been identified because they had no identification with them on the beach.Relatives here have reported that they haven't heard from them but sadly it takes time to identify the bodies that were taken to different locations when it happened. Tunisia and in particular Sousse, is a very popular vacation destination for many many British people throughout the year. The terrorist knew exactly who he was after! But that's sort of my point... this particular tragedy is more relevant to you and the OP because of your ties to it; the majority of Peas are American, and I'm willing to bet the majority of Americans (not necessarily Peas, just Americans in general) don't even know what/where Tunisia is! Seriously? That can't be true! I hope it's not anyway. I do agree, we are always more struck by events with which we have a connection. I am shocked to read about there being more shark attacks! I read about the first two but hadn't heard about any more. That's awful - I would be too terrified to go in the water!!
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