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Post by BarbaraUK on Jun 29, 2015 16:12:13 GMT
Not sure about quickly pointing to Iowa or Nebraska.... but the average person on the street in the UK travels abroad on holiday a lot, often to the USA.......and quite a few even own property there. I'd be curious to know the numbers of visitors from the UK that travel to the USA...and wonder how it compares with people in the US travelling to the UK.
I'm really not surprised that the "average person on the street" travels "abroad" a lot...hell...when you can take a train from London to Paris and arrive in 3 hrs...why wouldn't people be travelling abroad? If I'm driving south in GA, I wouldn't even be out of my own state in 3 hrs and you guys are in a whole different country. I don't really think you can fairly compare "travelling abroad" from the US (as US residents would) vs. "travelling abroad" for someone in the UK or the rest of Europe.
With that said, I'm a little offended that anyone thinks that because the victims of the terror last week don't matter to us because they're not US Citizens, or vacationing in a place frequented by US citizens repulses me. I give zero shits what their nationality was.
Not sure where your odd ideas of British nationals travelling abroad just meaning a three hour trip to Paris, or somewhere similar, comes from. That's just somewhere to go for a couple of days break! Travelling abroad for Brits on a two/three week holiday means going to places like Mexico, Peru, California and Florida, Hawaii, Dominican Republic, Caribbean, Bali, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and lots of other long haul international flights. A trip to New York is considered a long weekend away! A lot of our regional airports have direct flights to these sort of places. Then destinations like the Canary Islands off West Africa, Greece, Spain, Cyprus, Malta and more can be added to the list! So 'travelling abroad' can definitely be more than fairly compared with US citizens 'travelling abroad' from the US!! ETA: 3.8 million British nationals visited the USA in the past twelve months and just under 3 million US citizens visited the UK according to the most recent figures I could find.
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Post by conchita on Jun 29, 2015 16:22:58 GMT
@gajenny wrote:
"With that said, I'm a little offended that anyone thinks that because the victims of the terror last week don't matter to us because they're not US Citizens, or vacationing in a place frequented by US citizens repulses me. I give zero shits what their nationality was."
Oh, wow. If this is the impression that my remarks left, my sincere apologies! That was absolutely NOT the point, nor what I was inferring with my comments. You don't need to be able to locate Tunisia on a map to feel compassion for all the people who lost their lives and for all those who survived with their minds branded with the horror from that day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 16:29:51 GMT
@gajenny wrote:
"With that said, I'm a little offended that anyone thinks that because the victims of the terror last week don't matter to us because they're not US Citizens, or vacationing in a place frequented by US citizens repulses me. I give zero shits what their nationality was."
Oh, wow. If this is the impression that my remarks left, my sincere apologies! That was absolutely NOT the point, nor what I was inferring with my comments. You don't need to be able to locate Tunisia on a map to feel compassion for all the people who lost their lives and for all those who survived with their minds branded with the horror from that day. I think there was more than one comment that left me with the impression that the US doesn't care because it wasn't "our people" or "our vacation destinations" that were targeted and brutally killed. But I'm not going to go back and point them all out because I don't want to start a fight on this thread.
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Post by conchita on Jun 29, 2015 16:36:52 GMT
@gajenny wrote:
"With that said, I'm a little offended that anyone thinks that because the victims of the terror last week don't matter to us because they're not US Citizens, or vacationing in a place frequented by US citizens repulses me. I give zero shits what their nationality was."
Oh, wow. If this is the impression that my remarks left, my sincere apologies! That was absolutely NOT the point, nor what I was inferring with my comments. You don't need to be able to locate Tunisia on a map to feel compassion for all the people who lost their lives and for all those who survived with their minds branded with the horror from that day. I think there was more than one comment that left me with the impression that the US doesn't care because it wasn't "our people" or "our vacation destinations" that were targeted and brutally killed. But I'm not going to go back and point them all out because I don't want to start a fight on this thread.
I'm just trying to be accountable for *my* contributions to this thread. My apologies to anyone who may have thought my comments were insensitive.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 29, 2015 16:46:50 GMT
Here's my take. There is nothing really to discuss in the beach massacre. We can be horrified, outraged, saddened and whatever, but once we post those feelings, there isn't much to discuss. We don't have pro and anti isis factions here. Nobody is going to say terrorism is good. We have no say in policy in tunsinia, nor are we well versed on their laws or security.
My brain cannot handle every tragedy that happens in the world and I believe that human nature causes us to prioritize. Gun violence may be someone's hot button issue because they were personally affected or it might be drinking and driving or texting and driving. It might be the shootings at the church or it might be the one at the movies based on geographical location of relationship with those affected.
As for geography, i kniw the general locations of most, but not all countries in the world. I'm okay with that. Knowledge of wherw some country is does not enhance my everyday life. Also, if I say I am traveling to Europe, I typically mean that I am traveling to more than one country and I don't feel like listing them. Or it may mean that I haven't decided where all I am going to go.
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Post by melanell on Jun 29, 2015 17:14:36 GMT
I'm constantly hearing people say expressions such as "I'm going on vacation to Africa" when they are only going to one country. It's as if they can't differentiate the continent from the country. I sometimes hear that for other continents besides just Africa, though. I've heard it for both South America and Europe as well. I always just figure that it means that during the course of their time away they will be visiting more than one country.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 29, 2015 17:23:53 GMT
I agree we need more geography education in USA. But I often wonder, could the average citizen in UK quickly point to Nebraska or Iowa? They're roughly the size of Tunisa. I'm not talking about RefuPeas who converse daily with citizens of those states, but an average man on the street. We have this exchange so often... Good point. I hang out with you lot a bit of most days. I have two degrees. I would not be able to place these or many of the other 50 states. I have lived in Africa all my life, so would SMH at the confusion about it being one country. So I would concede proximity and parochial interest colour our consciousness (mine too). Lack of compassion is a bit off-putting though. FTR, we have had some shark attacks off our coast this week, too. Thanks, I was wondering. It seems natural to me to know about the place you live, travel or work. Sharks, while other subject.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 29, 2015 17:27:18 GMT
I agree we need more geography education in USA. But I often wonder, could the average citizen in UK quickly point to Nebraska or Iowa? They're roughly the size of Tunisa. I'm not talking about RefuPeas who converse daily with citizens of those states, but an average man on the street. We have this exchange so often... Not sure about quickly pointing to Iowa or Nebraska....but the average person on the street in the UK travels abroad on holiday a lot, often to the USA.......and quite a few even own property there. Like my neighbor? Not sure what your point is...
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Post by BarbaraUK on Jun 29, 2015 18:17:37 GMT
Not sure about quickly pointing to Iowa or Nebraska....but the average person on the street in the UK travels abroad on holiday a lot, often to the USA.......and quite a few even own property there. Like my neighbor? Not sure what your point is... Yes, like your neighbour, if you want to use that analogy. The point was, in answer to your question, that the person in the street here may or may not know immediately where Iowa or Nebraska are but they would be likely to know something about the USA as a country if asked, and quite a few of them own property in the USA in places like Florida. That was all..........
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 29, 2015 18:27:22 GMT
Like my neighbor? Not sure what your point is... Yes, like your neighbour, if you want to use that analogy. The point was, in answer to your question, that the person in the street here may or may not know immediately where Iowa or Nebraska are but they would be likely to know something about the USA as a country if asked, and quite a few of them own property in the USA in places like Florida. That was all.......... perhaps the difference is that it is easy to know something about a large country that takes up about 1/3 of a continent, but much harder to know about individual states that are roughly the same size as countries in the rest of the world. I'll admit I don't know something about many of the countries of the world. Hell there arr some states that all I know is where they are, what the capital is and if there is a major attraction there. For instance, Delaware (which is smaller than the county I live in), I can point to it on a map, but I can pull much more info from my brain on it.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Jun 29, 2015 19:16:04 GMT
Yes, like your neighbour, if you want to use that analogy. The point was, in answer to your question, that the person in the street here may or may not know immediately where Iowa or Nebraska are but they would be likely to know something about the USA as a country if asked, and quite a few of them own property in the USA in places like Florida. That was all.......... perhaps the difference is that it is easy to know something about a large country that takes up about 1/3 of a continent, but much harder to know about individual states that are roughly the same size as countries in the rest of the world. I'll admit I don't know something about many of the countries of the world. Hell there arr some states that all I know is where they are, what the capital is and if there is a major attraction there. For instance, Delaware (which is smaller than the county I live in), I can point to it on a map, but I can pull much more info from my brain on it. Oh goodness, originally I was just answering a question about the 'average man in the street' in the UK knowing quickly where Iowa or Nebraska are and I just happened to say that they may or may not know quickly where Iowa or Nebraska are but they often travel to the USA and some own property in the USA. I wasn't pointing fingers at anything or anyone, hinting at anything, or judging anything or anyone, as that seems to be being wrongly interpreted as - I was just answering a question!! I wouldn't expect people to know about every country in the world - heck, we are a comparatively small country but the majority of visitors to the UK know nothing about our counties and have to ask exactly where we live if we mention a county! They even get confused about what exactly makes up the United Kingdom!!
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 29, 2015 19:19:21 GMT
perhaps the difference is that it is easy to know something about a large country that takes up about 1/3 of a continent, but much harder to know about individual states that are roughly the same size as countries in the rest of the world. I'll admit I don't know something about many of the countries of the world. Hell there arr some states that all I know is where they are, what the capital is and if there is a major attraction there. For instance, Delaware (which is smaller than the county I live in), I can point to it on a map, but I can pull much more info from my brain on it. I wouldn't expect people to know about every country in the world - heck, we are a comparatively small country but the majority of visitors to the UK know nothing about our counties and have to ask exactly where we live if we mention a county! They even get confused about what exactly makes up the United Kingdom!! The same way that if you asked where I lived and I said Iowa--you wouldn't know where that is? I don't see a difference.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Jun 29, 2015 19:32:40 GMT
I wouldn't expect people to know about every country in the world - heck, we are a comparatively small country but the majority of visitors to the UK know nothing about our counties and have to ask exactly where we live if we mention a county! They even get confused about what exactly makes up the United Kingdom!! The same way that if you asked where I lived and I said Iowa--you wouldn't know where that is? I don't see a difference. You have taken that paragraph completely out of context so I'm not sure what you are getting at here!
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Post by gar on Jun 29, 2015 19:34:50 GMT
I wouldn't expect people to know about every country in the world - heck, we are a comparatively small country but the majority of visitors to the UK know nothing about our counties and have to ask exactly where we live if we mention a county! They even get confused about what exactly makes up the United Kingdom!! The same way that if you asked where I lived and I said Iowa--you wouldn't know where that is? I don't see a difference. Iowa is a part of one country, Tunisia is a whole country, England is a whole country. I guess that's the difference, regardless of size, to me anyway.
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Post by Sam on Jun 29, 2015 19:37:47 GMT
perhaps the difference is that it is easy to know something about a large country that takes up about 1/3 of a continent, but much harder to know about individual states that are roughly the same size as countries in the rest of the world. I'll admit I don't know something about many of the countries of the world. Hell there arr some states that all I know is where they are, what the capital is and if there is a major attraction there. For instance, Delaware (which is smaller than the county I live in), I can point to it on a map, but I can pull much more info from my brain on it. Oh goodness, originally I was just answering a question about the 'average man in the street' in the UK knowing quickly where Iowa or Nebraska are and I just happened to say that they may or may not know quickly where Iowa or Nebraska are but they often travel to the USA and some own property in the USA. I wasn't pointing fingers at anything or anyone, hinting at anything, or judging anything or anyone, as that seems to be being wrongly interpreted as - I was just answering a question!! I wouldn't expect people to know about every country in the world - heck, we are a comparatively small country but the majority of visitors to the UK know nothing about our counties and have to ask exactly where we live if we mention a county! They even get confused about what exactly makes up the United Kingdom!! I think we're staring to nit-pick now and it's not really going to enhance the conversation I've been to (for example) Germany multiple times, but I'd be hard pressed to identify their various regions on a map. I've also been to the US many, many times and I couldn't tell you (having been educated in the UK) where Nebraska, or Delaware for that matter, are with any real certainty. Most of the Brits 'know' areas on the East and West coasts and I bet many couldn't fill in the 'bits between them' with much accuracy. To those who feel that a few British tourists being slain is not really a concern, all I would add is that the 'threats' coming from IS seem to be very real, the fact that 3 terrorist attacks happened in disparate areas at almost the same time show (if indeed they were all co-ordinated by the same organisation) at least that there is real cause for concern that other countries/continents/nations may be targeted. The comments regarding escalated attacks over the next month are being taken seriously in many quarters and that should galvanise most to at least have a look at what is happening over their borders. For those who are concerned about the shark attacks - that has made our news over here (and not just in an aside). For any questioning whether we saw the reports about the horrific slaying of the people at Emanuel AME Church - we did, it was headline news and we mourned with you.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 29, 2015 19:37:53 GMT
perhaps the difference is that it is easy to know something about a large country that takes up about 1/3 of a continent, but much harder to know about individual states that are roughly the same size as countries in the rest of the world. I'll admit I don't know something about many of the countries of the world. Hell there arr some states that all I know is where they are, what the capital is and if there is a major attraction there. For instance, Delaware (which is smaller than the county I live in), I can point to it on a map, but I can pull much more info from my brain on it. Oh goodness, originally I was just answering a question about the 'average man in the street' in the UK knowing quickly where Iowa or Nebraska are and I just happened to say that they may or may not know quickly where Iowa or Nebraska are but they often travel to the USA and some own property in the USA. I wasn't pointing fingers at anything or anyone, hinting at anything, or judging anything or anyone, as that seems to be being wrongly interpreted as - I was just answering a question!! I wouldn't expect people to know about every country in the world - heck, we are a comparatively small country but the majority of visitors to the UK know nothing about our counties and have to ask exactly where we live if we mention a county! They even get confused about what exactly makes up the United Kingdom!! I apologize if I took it different than intended. It sounded like Americans are self centered and can't tell you anything about other countries that don't have a lot of relevance in our day to day life, but that those non-Americans are so much better because they can tell you something about the United states.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 29, 2015 19:46:00 GMT
I don't think anybody thinks it isn't a concern. It obviously is. There are quite a few places we won't travel based on a perceived threat. We mourn the loss of lives whether they are Brits on holiday, members in a church, or just living their lives in a war zone. It does make it more real if you have a personal connection to the tragedy, whether it be similar race or citizenship or proximity in area.
If 20 people are missing from an area I've never been and one of my child's friends is missing in a totally unrelated incident, which would I care more about?
As for the shark attacks, that is one that does not concern me at all currently. My state has no ocean access, so shark attacks are not a treat to me.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Jun 29, 2015 19:49:15 GMT
Oh goodness, originally I was just answering a question about the 'average man in the street' in the UK knowing quickly where Iowa or Nebraska are and I just happened to say that they may or may not know quickly where Iowa or Nebraska are but they often travel to the USA and some own property in the USA. I wasn't pointing fingers at anything or anyone, hinting at anything, or judging anything or anyone, as that seems to be being wrongly interpreted as - I was just answering a question!! I wouldn't expect people to know about every country in the world - heck, we are a comparatively small country but the majority of visitors to the UK know nothing about our counties and have to ask exactly where we live if we mention a county! They even get confused about what exactly makes up the United Kingdom!! I apologize if I took it different than intended. It sounded like Americans are self centered and can't tell you anything about other countries that don't have a lot of relevance in our day to day life, but that those non-Americans are so much better because they can tell you something about the United states. Thank you. I didn't mean that at all and wouldn't even think it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 20:03:47 GMT
The beach massacre in Tunisia happened two days ago, 39 dead, including 15 Brits and one Irish National. The attack in France and the bombing in the mosque in Kuwait happened within a short time frame of the beach attack. No-one has started a thread about these atrocities. Until now. Discuss just an aside and pointless comment but i am so tired of people posting statements and then adding a one word command to DISCUSS i just think, are you (general you) the puppet master? commanding your minions to entertain you with conflicting arguments?
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 29, 2015 20:21:15 GMT
The beach massacre in Tunisia happened two days ago, 39 dead, including 15 Brits and one Irish National. The attack in France and the bombing in the mosque in Kuwait happened within a short time frame of the beach attack. No-one has started a thread about these atrocities. Until now. Discuss just an aside and pointless comment but i am so tired of people posting statements and then adding a one word command to DISCUSS i just think, are you (general you) the puppet master? commanding your minions to entertain you with conflicting arguments? It was an invitation to discuss the topic, not a command.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 29, 2015 20:49:52 GMT
The same way that if you asked where I lived and I said Iowa--you wouldn't know where that is? I don't see a difference. Iowa is a part of one country, Tunisia is a whole country, England is a whole country. I guess that's the difference, regardless of size, to me anyway. I took the issue to be location, as in physical geography. Whether it's a country or a county would fall more into human geography category., and wasn't how I read original question. Im fairly certain everyone one I know in real life understands Tunisa is its own country, but many of us (me) would have to look up exactly which shape to put my finger on if required. And that seems to be what others are saying would happen pinpointing less populous states in the USA.
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Post by Sam on Jun 29, 2015 20:56:50 GMT
just an aside and pointless comment but i am so tired of people posting statements and then adding a one word command to DISCUSS i just think, are you (general you) the puppet master? commanding your minions to entertain you with conflicting arguments? It was an invitation to discuss the topic, not a command. Hey, Miss roll eyes - I appreciate that someone bringing in an overall handslap (in a very handslappy way) to the entire community, whilst referencing you, is irksome, I really do, but next time.........'let's discuss' or 'what do you think' might help!!
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Post by Merge on Jun 29, 2015 21:07:48 GMT
Is the average income in Britain that much higher than in the U.S.? The average person in the street here definitely cannot afford to frequently travel overseas, own property abroad, etc.
I am well-educated but decidedly not well-traveled. I have a good general idea of where Tunisia is. The killings there last week were tragic but, as others have pointed out, there isn't much controversial to discuss about them, and the event was definitely overshadowed here by the SCOTUS rulings. I know it's popular in the international community to paint Americans as ignorant and unconcerned about the rest of the world, but honestly, sometimes we've just got other stuff going on.
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Post by vpohlman on Jun 29, 2015 21:42:15 GMT
just an aside and pointless comment but i am so tired of people posting statements and then adding a one word command to DISCUSS i just think, are you (general you) the puppet master? commanding your minions to entertain you with conflicting arguments? It was an invitation to discuss the topic, not a command. Oh, I really wanted you to say "Yes."!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 21:50:03 GMT
I know where Tunisia is. I am horrified by what happened there and in France and Kuwait on Friday. Truly. ISIL is frightening and becoming more so.
Friday also turned out to be an historic day here in the United States. One that was directly life-changing for millions of Americans and indirectly for everyone else. This is something I have been working for and dreaming of for years. Many friends and family members now have a fundamental right they should have had long ago. And I'll be damned if I wasn't going to be joyful as hell about what happened.
Maybe it's wrong, but I didn't want to take such a profoundly positive day and talk about something so tragic, scary, and sad. It doesn't mean I don't care. I don't exactly know how to explain it.
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Post by elaine on Jun 29, 2015 22:00:35 GMT
The OP feels like more of a set up to criticize Americans than to actually discuss and memorialize those tragically murdered. I fail to see how that is any more respectful of them than the Americans who were focusing on the SCOTUS events last week.
I find it somewhat trivializing to equate whether or not one starts a thread to the level of horror one has for the terrorist events in Tunisia or France or anywhere else.
I guess everyone who hasn't started a thread about the teens who have lost limbs to sharks in the past two weeks doesn't care about children. And heaven forbid they wouldn't be able to distinguish between a picture of a bull shark and one of a great white! Even more proof that they are ignorant and ego-centric.
This is one of the more depressing threads I've read here in a while because it feels that so much supposition and mean-ness is directed at other refupeas, rather than at the people who deserve it, like the actual terrorist who shot all those UK tourists.
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Post by scrapaddie on Jun 29, 2015 22:22:34 GMT
My point is, that other tragedies have happened, usually involving guns and/or religious fundamentalists or nut cases and threads are started, usually running to several pages. Yet there was nothing on these events. Had me wondering why? What was different? Maybe there have been so many awful things happening lately that we are getting a little weary. Discussion does not help them or avoid them, it simply is a piling on of emotion... Maybe there have been so many awful things happening lately that we are getting a little weary. Discussion does not help them or avoid them, it simply is What can we do? What can we say? There is hatred in the world and we all seem to be victims of it.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Jun 29, 2015 22:31:34 GMT
Is the average income in Britain that much higher than in the U.S.? The average person in the street here definitely cannot afford to frequently travel overseas, own property abroad, etc. I am well-educated but decidedly not well-traveled. I have a good general idea of where Tunisia is. The killings there last week were tragic but, as others have pointed out, there isn't much controversial to discuss about them, and the event was definitely overshadowed here by the SCOTUS rulings. I know it's popular in the international community to paint Americans as ignorant and unconcerned about the rest of the world, but honestly, sometimes we've just got other stuff going on. No, it is very, very unlikely that the average income in the UK is any higher than in the US. However, most ordinary working British families it seems do go abroad for a holiday each year. The cost of some package holidays can be pretty reasonable here and they are very popular. The average person will almost start to plan the next years holiday and saving for it from the moment they get back from one......or at least they do in my part of England and the county I live in definitely isn't known for being mega affluent on the whole, that's for sure! Brits just love to travel to the sun! Even our regional airports are busy, busy places during the Summer with holiday flights! We can also get really inexpensive holidays in the 'off' season (not high Summer) for hotels and resorts abroad. Not all take long haul flight holidays of course, but the Canary Islands, Cyprus, Greece, Malta, Spain, Turkey - and, of course, Tunisia are all very popular places for holidays. As far as property goes, compared to ours, housing costs in Florida were/are much less than here and some people took advantage of that a while ago because they were regular visitors to Orlando - though that isn't as common now - and of course they rented the properties out a lot when not using them to other holidaymakers. The majority of the people I know who did that wouldn't call themselves anything but an ordinary working person holding ordinary jobs that's for sure. It's quite difficult to explain - our holiday travel industry is probably much different to yours in many ways and we are very lucky in the UK to have a huge choice of affordable holidays abroad both at travel agents and online now. It costs us more to travel by train to London and stay in a hotel there than it would to take a holiday abroad most times!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 23:10:25 GMT
Well one thing that Americans should pay attention to from this tragic events in Tunisia was how easy this one man was able to get a gun on the beach and start shooting and kill how many people that he did.
IMO it would be a lot easier to do it in parts of this country that have open carry laws. There a few laws that limit the type of guns and size of bullet holders or whatever they are called. In these areas one can pretty much go anywhere with a gun slung over one's shoulder. People around have to assume that person isn't going to all of a sudden start shooting. The next wave of terrorism seems to be bringing it to our shores and done by what they call a "lone wolf " . Which could become very problematic for those who are there to protect us from these sort of terrorist attacks. I suspect that may be one of the reasons officials seem to be a bit more concerned about possible terrorist attacks during the July 4th celebrations this year.
Yes potential terrorist could sneak in guns buy why should they when in certain parts of the country they can openingly carry them in.
This is not meant to start another pointless gun debate just to point out a very real possibility I'm sorry to say.
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Post by Zee on Jun 29, 2015 23:16:48 GMT
I really don't come here looking for threads about horrific tragedies. Forgive me if I prefer to focus, here, on less depressing things.
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