freebird
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Post by freebird on Jul 3, 2015 18:36:46 GMT
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Dalai Mama
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 3, 2015 18:50:10 GMT
I happened to be a huge fan of fornication in my time.
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Post by chlerbie on Jul 3, 2015 18:52:40 GMT
Yeah, I can't really get behind him. Fornicators?
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 3, 2015 18:52:44 GMT
I agree with him. The fornicator and adulterers are a bigger issue in christian, or any, marriage than whether or not Joe and Steve want to get married.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 3, 2015 18:54:53 GMT
Could Kirk Cameron be re-thinking is stance on gay marriage? I agree w/what he was saying, though I'm not sure that a fornicator is necessarily sinful, considering the fact that none of us would exist if it weren't for fornication. Ya, I know he meant it in another vein.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 3, 2015 18:56:00 GMT
Wow, I am impressed. I think that's a brave stance to take in his world.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 3, 2015 18:56:28 GMT
Could Kirk Cameron be re-thinking is stance on gay marriage? I agree w/what he was saying, though I'm not sure that a fornicator is necessarily sinful, considering the fact that none of us would exist if it weren't for fornication. Ya, I know he meant it in another vein. when I googled it said fornicator are those who have sex outside of marriage. I think he is really saying look inward instead of outward. Gay marriage is not affecting straight, christmas (aka Christian) marriages, but adultery sure would.
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perumbula
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Post by perumbula on Jul 3, 2015 18:57:51 GMT
Could Kirk Cameron be re-thinking is stance on gay marriage? I agree w/what he was saying, though I'm not sure that a fornicator is necessarily sinful, considering the fact that none of us would exist if it weren't for fornication. Ya, I know he meant it in another vein. According to most Christian religions fornication isn't just having sex. It's having sex outside of marriage. I have five children and I have never fornicated.
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caro
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Post by caro on Jul 3, 2015 19:00:57 GMT
I agree with him. The fornicator and adulterers are a bigger issue in christian, or any, marriage than whether or not Joe and Steve want to get married. I think this true.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 3, 2015 19:02:22 GMT
Could Kirk Cameron be re-thinking is stance on gay marriage? I agree w/what he was saying, though I'm not sure that a fornicator is necessarily sinful, considering the fact that none of us would exist if it weren't for fornication. Ya, I know he meant it in another vein. when I googled it said fornicator are those whobhave sex outside of marriage. I think he is really saying look inward instead of outward. Gay marriage is not affecting straight, christmas marriages, but adultery sure would. That makes more sense. I can't disagree w/his pov.
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melissa
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Post by melissa on Jul 3, 2015 19:04:18 GMT
I actually agree with his statement.
Pretty surprising that I agree with anything he has to say at all.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 3, 2015 19:04:30 GMT
Could Kirk Cameron be re-thinking is stance on gay marriage? I agree w/what he was saying, though I'm not sure that a fornicator is necessarily sinful, considering the fact that none of us would exist if it weren't for fornication. Ya, I know he meant it in another vein. According to most Christian religions fornication isn't just having sex. It's having sex outside of marriage. I have five children and I have never fornicated. Thank you for the clarification.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 3, 2015 19:13:12 GMT
A ) I agree with his statement. He's exactly right, other people's definition of marriage doesn't affect yours. Spot on.
B ) he's still darn good looking.
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Post by k8smom on Jul 3, 2015 19:17:10 GMT
He lost me at fornicators, I could not read any more. I loathe that word.
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Post by annabella on Jul 3, 2015 19:17:50 GMT
I think it interesting that Christians ignore that the Bible says gluttony is a sin. Smokers are shunned for their health risks but not weight related diseases. We need to control our bodies against lust, harsh words and appetite.
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Post by peasapie on Jul 3, 2015 19:25:21 GMT
I like what he says.
What I wonder about: what if your spouse isn't willing to do the work of therapy etc.
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Post by birukitty on Jul 3, 2015 19:31:49 GMT
Good for him! Out of the many things I hate when some types of Christians love to blame every thing that's wrong and will come to pass on gay marriage-the fact that they refuse to look at the state of their own marriages (many with affairs and all kinds of problems) that bugs the crap out of me. The national rate of divorce is over 50%.
My dear friends who've been together for over 35 years were finally able to get married just recently. And how about so many of those wonderful older couples we read about the day after the Supreme Court ruling came like that couple of men who'd been together for 50 years. How many straight marriages last 50 years these days?
Debbie in MD.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 3, 2015 19:37:51 GMT
Could Kirk Cameron be re-thinking is stance on gay marriage? I agree w/what he was saying, though I'm not sure that a fornicator is necessarily sinful, considering the fact that none of us would exist if it weren't for fornication. Ya, I know he meant it in another vein. when I googled it said fornicator are those whobhave sex outside of marriage. I think he is really saying look inward instead of outward. Gay marriage is not affecting straight, christmas marriages, but adultery sure would. Not much affects straight Christmas marriages, except maybe the changing seasons.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 3, 2015 19:41:49 GMT
Could Kirk Cameron be re-thinking is stance on gay marriage? I agree w/what he was saying, though I'm not sure that a fornicator is necessarily sinful, considering the fact that none of us would exist if it weren't for fornication. Ya, I know he meant it in another vein. when I googled it said fornicator are those whobhave sex outside of marriage. I think he is really saying look inward instead of outward. Gay marriage is not affecting straight, christmas marriages, but adultery sure would. I actually really enjoyed reading that article.
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Post by rainangel on Jul 3, 2015 19:43:11 GMT
Is this a way of saying 'Let the one without sin cast the first stone'? Because although I don't believe in religion, I DO believe n ithat quote. People are way too occupied with what everyone else is doing. I don't know much about what Kirk has been up to since his TV days, but from the article it looks like he is very involved with his church. I am sure coming out and saying this will be hard for a lot of people in his church to agree with. I did notice he refused to comment on gay marriage, saying it's not a priority. And he is right! It shouldn't be a priority. He probably doesn't agree with gay marriage, but has decided to focus his energy elsewhere. I hope more churchleaders follow his lead and focus on what everyone can do for themselves, and not talk hatefully about what someone else is doing.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 3, 2015 19:58:33 GMT
when I googled it said fornicator are those whobhave sex outside of marriage. I think he is really saying look inward instead of outward. Gay marriage is not affecting straight, christmas marriages, but adultery sure would. Not much affects straight Christmas marriages, except maybe the changing seasons. maybe they need tinsel up year round? Off to fix the auto correct typo
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Post by Native New Yorker on Jul 3, 2015 20:31:48 GMT
I think it interesting that Christians ignore that the Bible says gluttony is a sin. Smokers are shunned for their health risks but not weight related diseases. We need to control our bodies against lust, harsh words and appetite. Yeah, that's it because medical issues doesn't exist. Everyone who is overweight eats fast food and sit on their butts all day.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 3, 2015 20:37:07 GMT
I think it interesting that Christians ignore that the Bible says gluttony is a sin. Smokers are shunned for their health risks but not weight related diseases. We need to control our bodies against lust, harsh words and appetite. Yeah, that's it because medical issues doesn't exist. Everyone who is overweight eats fast food and sit on their butts all day. you know I gained 30 pounds over the winter due to thyroid medication that had me so out of whack it wasn't funny, but the fact that I haven't shed some of it is totally on me. There are some weight issues that are the result of a medical issue, but I guarantee there are more that aren't medically related than those that are and that some that are due to a medical issue could be made less severe with different lifestyle choices
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raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Jul 3, 2015 20:51:56 GMT
He lost me at fornicators, I could not read any more. I loathe that word. Awww! Come on, fornicate is a great word. Always makes me think of Stockard Channing's character in the movie "Where the heart is". Movie Trailer Link
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Post by melanell on Jul 3, 2015 20:57:52 GMT
He lost me at fornicators, I could not read any more. I loathe that word. Awww! Come on, fornicate is a great word. Always makes me think of Stockard Channing's character in the movie "Where the heart is". Movie Trailer LinkThat is exactly what I think of as well. That book or movie.
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Dalai Mama
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 3, 2015 21:01:59 GMT
He lost me at fornicators, I could not read any more. I loathe that word. Awww! Come on, fornicate is a great word. Always makes me think of Stockard Channing's character in the movie "Where the heart is". Movie Trailer LinkI like the word too. - Spoken as someone who fornicated tonnes before I got married.
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Post by seikashaven on Jul 3, 2015 21:05:53 GMT
The church has been dealing with sex outside of traditional marriage for a long time. I bet there's a lot more church attendees struggling with that then gay marriage
I like his point... which is surprising considering the source.
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raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Jul 3, 2015 21:13:16 GMT
Yeah, that's it because medical issues doesn't exist. Everyone who is overweight eats fast food and sit on their butts all day. you know I gained 30 pounds over the winter due to thyroid medication that had me so out of whack it wasn't funny, but the fact that I haven't shed some of it is totally on me. There are some weight issues that are the result of a medical issue, but I guarantee there are more that aren't medically related than those that are and that some that are due to a medical issue could be made less severe with different lifestyle choices I think it's interesting to consider, especially the LDS church. SOOOO outspoken about gay marriage, meanwhile they completely ignore their own "Word of Wisdom" (except the coffee and tea drinking) as well as the bible where gluttony is a sin. And it's also a huge problem in the US. I think it's always interesting to see what the "sin" of the moment is for American's entrenched in the Christian faith, because rarely can they actually show that they are doing well in all the areas. The truly need to look inside and figure themselves out first.
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jul 3, 2015 21:26:45 GMT
He lost me at fornicators, I could not read any more. I loathe that word. I just just wish that people would learn to keep their noses out of other people's bedrooms.
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melissa
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Post by melissa on Jul 3, 2015 21:27:18 GMT
I suspect that she means by the church.
There are a good number of churches that seem to pick and choose the sins to be vocal about.
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