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Post by librarylady on Dec 3, 2015 14:55:53 GMT
"God isn't Fixing This" Newspaper calls on leg. to do something, not just say "prayers are with you." tinyurl.com/hqb7gox
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Post by Merge on Dec 3, 2015 15:00:19 GMT
They're all paid off by the NRA not to do anything.
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Post by librarylady on Dec 3, 2015 15:03:56 GMT
They're all paid off by the NRA not to do anything. Yep, I think that is common knowledge. Someone posted on FB a meme that blames Obama for orchestrating yesterday's event just to confiscate guns. SMH
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 15:30:39 GMT
Holy hell. You have got to be kidding me. Yet...I know you're not.
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 3, 2015 15:38:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 15:45:17 GMT
It says money in 2016? Is it an error or money they will receive in 2016? I have no doubt the NRA puts money in their pockets, I'm questioning the year.
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Post by Merge on Dec 3, 2015 16:08:06 GMT
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 3, 2015 16:09:30 GMT
I don't know, I assume that's money received for the 2016 election cycle. However, I was referring to the tweets further down in his feed where he retweeted every legislator who tweeted "thoughts and prayers" with a reference to the amount of money they received from the NRA in their last election.
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Post by kellybelly77 on Dec 3, 2015 16:28:20 GMT
They're all paid off by the NRA not to do anything. Yep, I think that is common knowledge. Someone posted on FB a meme that blames Obama for orchestrating yesterday's event just to confiscate guns. SMH I have seen that on multiple pages on facebook that both Sandy Hook and this were orchestrated by Obama in order to take guns. Saying that neither were real events and that they were all actors. WTF! People are delusional.
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Post by tduby1 on Dec 3, 2015 16:36:20 GMT
Yep, I think that is common knowledge. Someone posted on FB a meme that blames Obama for orchestrating yesterday's event just to confiscate guns. SMH I have seen that on multiple pages on facebook that both Sandy Hook and this were orchestrated by Obama in order to take guns. Saying that neither were real events and that they were all actors. WTF! People are delusional. Delusional? Heartless is more like it! What a slap in the face to those who lost loved ones in either tragedy. Even my paranoid-everything's-a-conspiracy father in law hasn't dared to voice that one, yet. At least not to me but I, like you, have seen it on the internet more than once.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 16:38:24 GMT
They're all paid off by the NRA not to do anything. Yep, I think that is common knowledge. Someone posted on FB a meme that blames Obama for orchestrating yesterday's event just to confiscate guns. SMH That's no more ignorant than the idiots who are accusing the NRA and the gun industry of orchestrating these events to increase gun sales. Oh wait - that's what you guys are really saying, isn't it? Stfu about the NRA. "Your" side has many many shadowy organizations dumping millions into the hands of politicians to advance their anti-Liberty agendas and actually line their own already deep deep pockets. The NRA is a boogeyman. Open your damn eyes to the reality of this world. Find the real enemies. Take off your liberal apologist blinders before it's too late.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 3, 2015 16:48:52 GMT
I think the bashing and mocking of politicians for offering their thoughts and prayers with the victims is misguided at best. But here's the latest for you all to tear into:
"Our first order of business is to send our thoughts and prayers."
Can't wait for you and the blogsphere to mock President Obama.
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Post by jayfab on Dec 3, 2015 16:54:27 GMT
Eye opening and disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 16:59:34 GMT
I was going to say something, but some people aren't responding to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 17:01:12 GMT
Yep, I think that is common knowledge. Someone posted on FB a meme that blames Obama for orchestrating yesterday's event just to confiscate guns. SMH That's no more ignorant than the idiots who are accusing the NRA and the gun industry of orchestrating these events to increase gun sales. Oh wait - that's what you guys are really saying, isn't it? Stfu about the NRA. "Your" side has many many shadowy organizations dumping millions into the hands of politicians to advance their anti-Liberty agendas and actually line their own already deep deep pockets. The NRA is a boogeyman. Open your damn eyes to the reality of this world. Find the real enemies. Take off your liberal apologist blinders before it's too late. The worse thing that ever happened to this country is the NRA the best thing that could ever happen to this country is if the NRA was gone. Harsh sentiment maybe but only a dimwit does not understand the roll the NRA has played in this country earning the disgusting but true title of "Mass Murder Country of the World". Now to go down to your childish remarks. I can say WHATEVER I want about the NRA and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. So there! By the way. You really should see someone about your anger problems. Can't be good for your health.
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Post by Dictionary on Dec 3, 2015 17:01:38 GMT
Yep, I think that is common knowledge. Someone posted on FB a meme that blames Obama for orchestrating yesterday's event just to confiscate guns. SMH I have seen that on multiple pages on facebook that both Sandy Hook and this were orchestrated by Obama in order to take guns. Saying that neither were real events and that they were all actors. WTF! People are delusional. Wow just wow, makes me wonder how these people can function on a daily basis.
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Post by lucyg on Dec 3, 2015 17:18:08 GMT
I think the bashing and mocking of politicians for offering their thoughts and prayers with the victims is misguided at best. But here's the latest for you all to tear into: "Our first order of business is to send our thoughts and prayers." Can't wait for you and the blogsphere to mock President Obama. Really? Last I heard, President Obama isn't taking money from the NRA to pretend we don't have a gun problem in this country.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 17:21:59 GMT
I think the bashing and mocking of politicians for offering their thoughts and prayers with the victims is misguided at best. But here's the latest for you all to tear into: "Our first order of business is to send our thoughts and prayers." Can't wait for you and the blogsphere to mock President Obama. There is a difference between mocking some politicians and not others when they offer "thoughts and prayers" in a situation like this. The politicians on the front page in question are just giving lip service because if they were serious they would back up their "heartfelt prayers" with action. Which they choose not to do hoping the American People are stupid enough to believe their prayers are enough to prevent these mass shootings. I'm sure the 14 victims of yesterday would have much rather preferred action instead "heartfelt prayers" after Sandy Hook. If there had been action instead of just prayers maybe just maybe these folks and the thousands of other gun victims would be alive today. But until the politicians on the front page of the paper in question and other GOP politicians take their collective heads out of the NRA's ass nothing meaningful will ever get done. To answer rainbow's question about what can be done. Simple we know what needs to be done to keep the guns out of the wrong people's hands but we, as a country, choose to do nothing. Except to offer our prayers and thoughts. Sorry folks the only time "prayers and thoughts" mean anything is if there is no solution to the problem or situation. But that is certainly not the case when it comes to guns in this country.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Dec 3, 2015 17:22:20 GMT
not sure if I want to wade into this or not, but them saying 'our prayers are with you' doesn't mean they aren't necessarily doing other things...
what's wrong with offering prayers and thoughts for the victims and the community??
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Post by peabay on Dec 3, 2015 17:25:24 GMT
They're all paid off by the NRA not to do anything. Yep, I think that is common knowledge. Someone posted on FB a meme that blames Obama for orchestrating yesterday's event just to confiscate guns. SMH Freaking idiots.
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 3, 2015 17:27:00 GMT
I think the bashing and mocking of politicians for offering their thoughts and prayers with the victims is misguided at best. But here's the latest for you all to tear into: "Our first order of business is to send our thoughts and prayers." Can't wait for you and the blogsphere to mock President Obama. The difference IMHO is what the President says after offering his thoughts and prayers. He is calling for change and the other politicians are coming across as "so sad, too bad, nothing we can do".
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 3, 2015 17:33:31 GMT
I think the bashing and mocking of politicians for offering their thoughts and prayers with the victims is misguided at best. But here's the latest for you all to tear into: "Our first order of business is to send our thoughts and prayers." Can't wait for you and the blogsphere to mock President Obama. The difference IMHO is what the President says after offering his thoughts and prayers. He is calling for change and the other politicians are coming across as "so sad, too bad, nothing we can do". Just because someone disagrees with the type of change that will help prevent these incidents, doesn't mean they don't care. I don't see how mocking compassion is helpful on any level.
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 3, 2015 17:33:35 GMT
Or even better, the politicians who suggest that we need MORE guns to solve the problem.
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 3, 2015 17:36:15 GMT
The difference IMHO is what the President says after offering his thoughts and prayers. He is calling for change and the other politicians are coming across as "so sad, too bad, nothing we can do". Just because someone disagrees with the type of change that will help prevent these incidents, doesn't mean they don't care. I don't see how mocking compassion is helpful on any level. IMHO, after so many mass shootings without calls for something to change, the "prayers & thoughts" comes across as empty lip service rather than compassion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 17:39:16 GMT
not sure if I want to wade into this or not, but them saying 'our prayers are with you' doesn't mean they aren't necessarily doing other things... what's wrong with offering prayers and thoughts for the victims and the community?? I am only referring to the cover of the newspaper. To me, they are paid by the NRA to look away and keep quiet. I do not believe it's sincere. It's akin to the Duggars espousing family values and praising Jesus while they do nothing to get their son the help he needs. Pray it away and believe he's healed because... well they prayed. The thread by kikipea, does not bother me in the slightest. That, I believe.
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 3, 2015 17:40:42 GMT
In many cases, I don't even perceive it as lip service anymore, I see it as shameless pandering to their own base because I'm sure the victims yesterday really cared that my backwater Congressman in western PA tweeted them thoughts and prayers. How many of them follow his twitter feed?
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Post by Merge on Dec 3, 2015 17:42:54 GMT
Just because someone disagrees with the type of change that will help prevent these incidents, doesn't mean they don't care. I don't see how mocking compassion is helpful on any level. IMHO, after so many mass shootings without calls for something to change, the "prayers & thoughts" comes across as empty lip service rather than compassion. Exactly. It's "My thoughts and prayers are with the victims, but my vote in congress is bought by the gun industry, so thoughts and prayers are all you're going to get." If more guns make people safer, this should be the safest country in the world. I don't know what it will take to convince people that gun ownership doesn't equal safety, if cold, hard facts won't do it.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 3, 2015 17:42:59 GMT
Just because someone disagrees with the type of change that will help prevent these incidents, doesn't mean they don't care. I don't see how mocking compassion is helpful on any level. IMHO, after so many mass shootings without calls for something to change, the "prayers & thoughts" comes across as empty lip service rather than compassion. Well I think it's interesting that we'll see the exact opposite responses when the discussion begins about the shooter being radicalized (which CNN is currently reporting). We'll see the seismic shift of the right shouting about what needs to be done and accusing the left of being of the "so sad, too bad, nothing we can do"
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Post by stittsygirl on Dec 3, 2015 17:49:46 GMT
Moving this from the "Prayer" thread. 'No Way to Prevent This' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly HappensThis is an article from The Onion, but it pretty much nails the question. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.” So what are the other economically advanced nations, that don't experience this kind of domestic terrorism on a regular basis, doing right, that we as a nation aren't? Praying more/better?
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Post by jonda1974 on Dec 3, 2015 17:53:23 GMT
Until we get to the mental health issue, screaming gun control isn't going to change things. California had the bans in place. Didn't stop them. Same in Chicago, same in Paris. Gun bans aren't going to stop mass violence. It's cause and effect. I'd prefer to focus on the cause, not the effect (means).
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