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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 12:45:52 GMT
This did not happen to me,
but someone posted here that their kids were upset because their grandmother printed the pics they posted on Facebook. Can you tell me why? If you let your grandma be your friend or don't make your pics or fb private, why would you be upset or surprised when someone copies them?
And again, I did not do this. Just wondering.
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Post by maribeth on Dec 21, 2015 13:21:22 GMT
I do it all the time, so far no one has been upset by this, in fact many of our family members actually post them FOR ME and even upon request because they know I am an obsessed scrapbooker and want them for those memory pages. Just yesterday hubby's grand daughter in law posted a photo of great grand daughter visiting Santa. In her post she had mentioned that it was better than last year's photo as she was in tears. Either I had missed the post last year or she did not post it. I replied to her comment and asked her for last year's photo and within hours it was posted.
I agree with you, if you are going to post, and not protect the photo's from download (which I believe you can do), then I don't think you should be upset by someone (you have on your friend list), downloading and printing the photos.
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Post by christinec68 on Dec 21, 2015 14:17:18 GMT
I'm in the "once it's out there, it's out there" camp. I can not understand getting upset about it and it's much easier than having the grandmother ask for prints of pictures she loves.
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Post by myboysnme on Dec 23, 2015 1:14:54 GMT
My son had a girlfriend for 5 years and I kept up a little scrapbook for her. I always printed up her photos and made pages for her album.
If I didn't take the photos from facebook I'd never have any of my boys.
I frequently download photos to put on ancestry.com on my tree, especially if I just want to post one photo of a person in my tree. If someone was mad at me for downloading their photos they would just have to be mad.
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 23, 2015 5:08:51 GMT
My son had a girlfriend for 5 years and I kept up a little scrapbook for her. I always printed up her photos and made pages for her album. If I didn't take the photos from facebook I'd never have any of my boys. I frequently download photos to put on ancestry.com on my tree, especially if I just want to post one photo of a person in my tree. If someone was mad at me for downloading their photos they would just have to be mad. My son's girlfriend loves to ask me to take their photos. It is one of my favorite things about her.  Thankfully my son is good with that. |
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Dec 23, 2015 5:17:26 GMT
This did not happen to me, but someone posted here that their kids were upset because their grandmother printed the pics they posted on Facebook. Can you tell me why? If you let your grandma be your friend or don't make your pics or fb private, why would you be upset or surprised when someone copies them? And again, I did not do this. Just wondering. Because it's still technically an infringement on your copyright. And because it's nice if they at least ask. You might not be mad when your grandma does it, but you would be mad if a genetic testing company took the picture you posted of your child with Down Syndrome to use to promote the company. |
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Post by iowgirl on Dec 23, 2015 13:41:57 GMT
My kids were not super happy about some pictures that their grandma printed and used off Facebook. This was several years ago, and they didn't throw a fit, or even say anything to her about it (keep this in mind if you think the other person is not just slightly creeped out that you are stalking their FB page and printing pictures - they might just be too nice to say anything ) It was not pictures they put up - but pictures their friends had put up and they were tagged in so she could see them. It did change the way they used social media at the time. They pretty much left Facebook and went to other platforms - which I think most kids did anyway. They did not "friend" grandma on any of those - lol. They love her dearly and don't want to hurt her feelings. I guess you have to ask yourself if you are totally ok with a relative or friend sharing or printing any of the photos you put online. If that does not make you stop for one second and say - "ehhh, what are you doing?" My thoughts are that someday they might really enjoy having these pictures in a printed format - but a courtesy call to ask if they are OK with it first should be in order. |
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Post by birukitty on Dec 25, 2015 23:58:58 GMT
This did not happen to me, but someone posted here that their kids were upset because their grandmother printed the pics they posted on Facebook. Can you tell me why? If you let your grandma be your friend or don't make your pics or fb private, why would you be upset or surprised when someone copies them? And again, I did not do this. Just wondering. Because it's still technically an infringement on your copyright. And because it's nice if they at least ask. You might not be mad when your grandma does it, but you would be mad if a genetic testing company took the picture you posted of your child with Down Syndrome to use to promote the company. This, totally this. Most folks in today's world have totally forgotten or conveniently choose to forget this, when a photo they want is posted on facebook or on the internet. It's easy to make a copy of it for your own need's but that doesn't make it right or even within the law. I'm sorry if I sound like I'm "nit picky" about this but I'm coming from the side of a former professional photographer who's been in the business since 1986 and we were taught all about copyright law. If it's someone you know, just ask them if it's okay-that's common courtesy, and it's the right thing to do. If it's someone you don't know and it's on the internet, try to contact them. If you can't reach them or you can and the answer is no-don't copy it. Those photographers have apps or programs out that can tell them when someone has copied their work and they have lawyers employed just to go after those folks who do this. The fines are very stiff, and it's just not worth it. Not to mention it's stealing someone's work and it's just plain wrong. Debbie in MD. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Dec 26, 2015 0:01:57 GMT
I don't think grandma is using the photos in copyright infringement ways.
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Post by birukitty on Dec 26, 2015 20:25:14 GMT
Anytime anyone copies a photo from anywhere without the photographer's permission it's breaking copyright law. Doesn't matter if it's grandma.That's how the law works. Now I don't think that's going to result in their relative suing for copyright infringement obviously. I was talking about taking photos off the internet from people you (not you specifically)
probably don't know but more specifically haven't gotten permission to do so (take the photo).
Debbie in MD.
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Post by lisae on Dec 27, 2015 1:44:55 GMT
I think Grandma should print all the photos she wants because someday these kids will be happy she did. One of my pet peeves is the idea that publishing photos on Facebook is a way to save your memories. I can't find anything on Facebook more than about a week old most of the time much less years down the road. Who knows where all those photos will end up or if anybody will ever be able to find them again. Grandma's physical copies will likely be all the memories they have left.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2015 19:14:09 GMT
That's just stupid.
Once you put something on the internet, you lose control of it. Grandma should be the least of your worries.
If you don't understand this, you shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.
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Post by birukitty on Dec 28, 2015 17:11:26 GMT
That's just stupid. Once you put something on the internet, you lose control of it. Grandma should be the least of your worries. If you don't understand this, you shouldn't be allowed to use the internet. Are you addressing this to me? I think you are so I'll comment back. Just because you don't like what I said doesn't make it stupid. You might not believe it's true, but still that wouldn't make it stupid, it would make it in your eyes untrue. I went to a lecture by a professional commercial photographer with a studio in Washington DC a year ago. He's the one who told the class he has a program where he can tell if someone has copied his work and he has a lawyer he uses when it happens to sue those people for breaking copyright law. He has to use the internet to advertise his studio, as do most photographers. Do you think they shouldn't be on the internet? Do you think once they put their work on the internet to advertise they lose all control of it? Debbie in MD? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 17:34:25 GMT
That's just stupid. Once you put something on the internet, you lose control of it. Grandma should be the least of your worries. If you don't understand this, you shouldn't be allowed to use the internet. Are you addressing this to me? I think you are so I'll comment back. Just because you don't like what I said doesn't make it stupid. You might not believe it's true, but still that wouldn't make it stupid, it would make it in your eyes untrue. I went to a lecture by a professional commercial photographer with a studio in Washington DC a year ago. He's the one who told the class he has a program where he can tell if someone has copied his work and he has a lawyer he uses when it happens to sue those people for breaking copyright law. He has to use the internet to advertise his studio, as do most photographers. Do you think they shouldn't be on the internet? Do you think once they put their work on the internet to advertise they lose all control of it? Debbie in MD? Actually I was **not** addressing my post to you. My post was in direct response to the original post. |
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Post by birukitty on Dec 28, 2015 17:43:50 GMT
Are you addressing this to me? I think you are so I'll comment back. Just because you don't like what I said doesn't make it stupid. You might not believe it's true, but still that wouldn't make it stupid, it would make it in your eyes untrue. I went to a lecture by a professional commercial photographer with a studio in Washington DC a year ago. He's the one who told the class he has a program where he can tell if someone has copied his work and he has a lawyer he uses when it happens to sue those people for breaking copyright law. He has to use the internet to advertise his studio, as do most photographers. Do you think they shouldn't be on the internet? Do you think once they put their work on the internet to advertise they lose all control of it? Debbie in MD? Actually I was **not** addressing my post to you. My post was in direct response to the original post. Okay, I'm sorry. My mistake. Debbie in MD. |
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Post by cath4k on Dec 29, 2015 23:20:22 GMT
I would not be upset if someone who was my friend/family on Facebook printed one of my photos for personal use. I assume Grandma printed it for personal use only. I consider putting images on the internet to be like having a photo of mine published in a newspaper or magazine. If someone wanted to clip a photo of mine from a magazine and put it in a frame or a scrapbook or whatever, I would not have a problem with that. I would have a problem if I were a professional artist/photographer and people were stealing my work for anything other than personal, private, in-home use. I would also have a problem with pedophiles, but that is another issue. This flow chart is a helpful resource about when you may or may not be able to use a photo: lifehacker.com/follow-this-chart-to-know-if-you-can-use-an-image-from-1615584870I think Grandma is covered under both the fair use/personal definition and the social media one, too. Most importantly, I'm sure she didn't mean to offend. On a personal note, I will add that I have not been on Facebook for a long time and no longer have a blog or put my scrapbooking on the web anywhere, although I used to and I know a lot of it is still out there on Pinterest. |
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Post by gramasue on Dec 29, 2015 23:31:01 GMT
Personally, I think it's okay for a close family member to print a photo that you have posted on Facebook. Several times, I have copied photos from close family members and used them to create a special gift for that person. They all loved them. It never occurred to me that I was infringing on someone's copyright.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Dec 29, 2015 23:59:15 GMT
I'd like to see the story when grandkids sue grandma for copyright infringement.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 12:40:52 GMT
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Thankfully my son is good with that. 
