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Post by freecharlie on Dec 30, 2015 23:04:38 GMT
Apparently there are new regulations and at some point in 2016, your state issued ID may not be sufficient for air travel. Lucky for me, Colorado is on the list. Will your DL be enough? Here is an article from a local station. At some point in 2016, residents of most states will not be able to use their driver’s licenses as identification at airports — even for domestic flights. The Department of Homeland Security will begin enforcing what is now a 10-year-old law called the Real ID Act, which set new regulations for sufficient ID for air travel. Passengers have long had to use their federally issued passports for international trips, but for millions of Americans, that may now extend to flights inside of America as well. Only 22 states are in full compliance with the law. Many more have been granted extensions that will expire by October 10, 2016 (or earlier). However, four states have not received extensions, meaning their residents will be out of luck starting January 10. States in full compliance are: Alabama Colorado Connecticut Delaware DC Florida Georgia Hawaii Indiana Iowa Kansas Maryland Mississippi Nebraska Nevada Ohio S. Dakota Tennessee Utah Vermont West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming States receiving temporary extensions through October 10 are: Alaska Arizona Arkansas Idaho Kentucky Louisiana Maine Massachusetts Michigan Montana New Jersey New York N. Carolina N. Dakota Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island S. Carolina Texas Virginia New Hampshire is under extension through June 1. California is under review for an extension renewal, which means that its residents can still use their driver’s license to get on a domestic flight until at least January 10, but may not be able to thereafter. These five states are not in compliance at all: Illinois Minnesota Missouri New Mexico Washington k99.com/drivers-license-domestic-flights-new-rules/?trackback=tsmclip
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 23:08:57 GMT
That's pretty shitty if those states don't get their act together and get compliant ID before the deadline. Many, many people don't have passports and very rarely fly. It would be reprehensible if someone who usually didn't travel needed to, say, fly to another state on short notice due to a family health crisis and couldn't do it because of this.
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Post by AN on Dec 30, 2015 23:10:32 GMT
Interesting. I am in TX and fly frequently. It will be interesting to see how this moves forward, I can't imagine the hassle of reissuing ids.
I have a global entry card that is a federal picture id the size of a dricers license so I can always tuck that in my wallet easily if need be. But I would not be happy to have to travel with my passport, too much risk of loss/theft and it is a pain to have to keep track of.
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Post by marimoose on Dec 30, 2015 23:11:08 GMT
I am confused, per normal, what will be acceptable ID, if not your state issued? I do not have a passport because I don't ever leave the country but I do have a valid DL. My son does not drive but has a valid Co ID. So I am covered in my own state but what if I were flying out of one of the negligent states? How hard can it be to meet compliancy??? Geez.... I know what states to not live in
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 23:12:52 GMT
I am confused, per normal, what will be acceptable ID, if not your state issued? I do not have a passport because I don't ever leave the country but I do have a valid DL. My son does not drive but has a valid Co ID. Passports will be it, it sounds like, for residents of states who aren't in compliance by their already extended deadlines.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 23:13:01 GMT
My state is non compliant. THey did file for an extension but the last I heard was there is going to be no effort to be complaint. We will see. Our major industry requires lot of air travel both domestic and internationally. If they stop headquartering here because of travel issues it would be a hardship on the state coffers.
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Post by ten&rose on Dec 30, 2015 23:13:06 GMT
Looks like my DL is on the extension list but I also have a Mil ID so that will work.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 30, 2015 23:13:13 GMT
I am confused, per normal, what will be acceptable ID, if not your state issued? I do not have a passport because I don't ever leave the country but I do have a valid DL. My son does not drive but has a valid Co ID. It would seem that you would have to get a passport if your state ID is not accepted. Your son's would be accepted because Colorado IDs are compliant.
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Post by marimoose on Dec 30, 2015 23:14:26 GMT
I am confused, per normal, what will be acceptable ID, if not your state issued? I do not have a passport because I don't ever leave the country but I do have a valid DL. My son does not drive but has a valid Co ID. Passports will be it, it sounds like, for residents of states who aren't in compliance by their already extended deadlines. Glad that I rarely fly because I sure as heck am not going through the efforts of getting a passport just so I can in some states.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 23:15:10 GMT
Passports will be it, it sounds like, for residents of states who aren't in compliance by their already extended deadlines. Glad that I rarely fly because I sure as heck am not going through the efforts of getting a passport just so I can in some states. If your state's ID is not compliant, you won't be able to fly anywhere without a passport.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 30, 2015 23:18:15 GMT
Passports will be it, it sounds like, for residents of states who aren't in compliance by their already extended deadlines. Glad that I rarely fly because I sure as heck am not going through the efforts of getting a passport just so I can in some states. Don't you have a Colorado ID? We are compliant. If we weren't we wouldn't be able to fly anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 23:20:23 GMT
I am confused, per normal, what will be acceptable ID, if not your state issued? I do not have a passport because I don't ever leave the country but I do have a valid DL. My son does not drive but has a valid Co ID. So I am covered in my own state but what if I were flying out of one of the negligent states? How hard can it be to meet compliancy??? Geez.... I know what states to not live in Flying out of one of the non compliant states only matters if your DL was issued by one of those states. CO is compliant so your DL is fine no matter what state you fly out of. My DL is issued by Oklahoma - a non compliant state and I will have problems because it doesn't meet the security features required by the federal govt. Non compliant states see this as a state vs federal government issue.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 30, 2015 23:26:34 GMT
My DL is issued by Oklahoma - a non compliant state and I will have problems because it doesn't meet the security features required by the federal govt. Non compliant states see this as a state vs federal government issue. I have no issue with the states not changing their IDs. I also have no problem with the federal government mandating what is acceptable as ID for flights as air travel is a federal responsibility. If the states don't change their IDs, then their citizens will just have to use their passports to fly. Edited because some how I double quoted.
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Post by marimoose on Dec 30, 2015 23:26:46 GMT
Glad that I rarely fly because I sure as heck am not going through the efforts of getting a passport just so I can in some states. Don't you have a Colorado ID? We are compliant. If we weren't we wouldn't be able to fly anywhere. I have a legal DL but what if I am flying out of one of those states. Would my ID be enough to escape them?
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Post by valleyview on Dec 30, 2015 23:27:06 GMT
I think that these changes have been in the works for several years. I renewed my DL last year, and there was a name change and address double-check so that everything correlated with IRS and birth certificate.
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Post by marimoose on Dec 30, 2015 23:28:24 GMT
I am confused, per normal, what will be acceptable ID, if not your state issued? I do not have a passport because I don't ever leave the country but I do have a valid DL. My son does not drive but has a valid Co ID. So I am covered in my own state but what if I were flying out of one of the negligent states? How hard can it be to meet compliancy??? Geez.... I know what states to not live in Flying out of one of the non compliant states only matters if your DL was issued by one of those states. CO is compliant so your DL is fine no matter what state you fly out of. My DL is issued by Oklahoma - a non compliant state and I will have problems because it doesn't meet the security features required by the federal govt. Non compliant states see this as a state vs federal government issue. Now I understand. Still ridiculous that there are any states not in compliancy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 23:28:30 GMT
Don't you have a Colorado ID? We are compliant. If we weren't we wouldn't be able to fly anywhere. I have a legal DL but what if I am flying out of one of those states. Would my ID be enough to escape them? Yes. YOUR dl is enough. What state you are flying out of is immaterial. What state issued your DL IS the important issue for travelers.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 30, 2015 23:28:30 GMT
I think that these changes have been in the works for several years. I renewed my DL last year, and there was a name change and address double-check so that everything correlated with IRS and birth certificate. The original Act was voted on in 2005. It seems it has now trickled down to air travel.
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Post by valleyview on Dec 30, 2015 23:29:14 GMT
Don't you have a Colorado ID? We are compliant. If we weren't we wouldn't be able to fly anywhere. I have a legal DL but what if I am flying out of one of those states. Would my ID be enough to escape them? Where you fly from has nothing to do with your compliant DL. If your state is compliant, then you are compliant.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 30, 2015 23:30:34 GMT
voltagainHas this been a news story there? This is the first I have heard of it (or maybe bothered to listen), but it seems that with a couple of states on the Jan 10 list, they may have had more exposure.
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 30, 2015 23:32:33 GMT
My understanding is a non-compliant state issued DL will trigger extra security screening, not necessarily stopping you from flying.
All states have had plenty of time (since 2005?) to bring their state standards in line with the federal standards and some have chosen not to, even passing legislation to exempt their state from the Real ID Act.
Already you can't go into some federal facilities without the enhanced DL.
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 30, 2015 23:35:46 GMT
Don't you have a Colorado ID? We are compliant. If we weren't we wouldn't be able to fly anywhere. I have a legal DL but what if I am flying out of one of those states. Would my ID be enough to escape them? Yes, your CO DL meets the Real ID Act standard and you can use it to fly an any domestic flight in the US.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 23:36:57 GMT
Flying out of one of the non compliant states only matters if your DL was issued by one of those states. CO is compliant so your DL is fine no matter what state you fly out of. My DL is issued by Oklahoma - a non compliant state and I will have problems because it doesn't meet the security features required by the federal govt. Non compliant states see this as a state vs federal government issue. Now I understand. Still ridiculous that there are any states not in compliancy. I dunno. It can be in interesting discussion into states rights vs federal rights. More and more US citizens seem to be willing to sweep away their state's right to have a state government. DL have always been the domain of the state. By imposing a mandatory standards states are forced into changing their procedures and equipment for producing DL. It is a big funding investment for some states who aren't ready to revamp the equipment and systems they have in use now for issuing a **drivers** license which was not originally intended to function as an id for anything other than driving. It certainly was never intended to be a federal id card. The federal government isn't footing the bill for those costs. If the federal government wants a federal id card why not create one and have it paid for (equipment and salaries) by the federal government. Or require all US citizens to acquire a passport instead of making this a state problem.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 23:39:33 GMT
voltagain Has this been a news story there? This is the first I have heard of it (or maybe bothered to listen), but it seems that with a couple of states on the Jan 10 list, they may have had more exposure. It hit our news a bunch back in October/November to give people a heads up they may want to get a passport for travel starting the first of the year. If I recall correctly we have laws on the books that prevent OK from becoming compliant. If someone wants a federal id card they need to find something other than a state funded id. To wit, use a passport instead of a state drivers license.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 30, 2015 23:40:50 GMT
Now I understand. Still ridiculous that there are any states not in compliancy. I dunno. It can be in interesting discussion into states rights vs federal rights. More and more US citizens seem to be willing to sweep away their state's right to state government. DL have always been the domain of the state. By imposing a mandatory standards states are forced into changing their procedures and equipment for producing DL. It is a big funding investment for some states who aren't ready to revamp the equipment and systems they have in use now for issuing a **drivers** license which was not originally intended to function as an id for anything other than driving. It certainly was never intended to be a federal id card. The federal government isn't footing the bill for those costs. If the federal government wants a federal id card why not create one and have it paid for (equipment and salaries) by the federal government. Or require all US citizens to acquire a passport instead of making this a state problem. My license doesn't look any different than it did before. Then again, mine is kind of old. I wonder if there a date of compliance?
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Post by cadoodlebug on Dec 30, 2015 23:44:19 GMT
voltagainHas this been a news story there? This is the first I have heard of it (or maybe bothered to listen), but it seems that with a couple of states on the Jan 10 list, they may have had more exposure. I think I started a thread about 3 or 4 months ago when some friends in Louisiana were talking on Facebook about applying for passports for domestic travel.
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Post by ~Sherri~ on Dec 30, 2015 23:46:48 GMT
I have only flown once and that was to Florida back in the summer. I am grateful that the state I live in is compliant, Tennessee. I just renewed my DL back in October and received a new license in the mail. I never really looked at it when it came, just stuck it in my wallet. I am now going to go check it out.
DH will finally get new a driver's license this coming year. When he last renewed his, it was good for 8 years if I remember correctly.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Dec 30, 2015 23:58:08 GMT
Yea, this has been all over the news here, as we are one of the states non compliant. You can get an enhanced drivers license which would work, but of course it costs more. MN has a problem with the collection of personal info with the new license's it sounds like? Sounds like they have been trying to work something out. I'm not worried about it. www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_28839749/drivers-license-might-not-be-enough-at-airport
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 0:03:04 GMT
Yea, this has been all over the news here, as we are one of the states non compliant. You can get an enhanced drivers license which would work, but of course it costs more. MN has a problem with the collection of personal info with the new license's it sounds like? Sounds like they have been trying to work something out. I'm not worried about it. www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_28839749/drivers-license-might-not-be-enough-at-airportCollection of personal info, and is it appropriate for the state DMV to have access to that info because they will since they gather and archive that info, is a big concern for non-compliant states.
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Post by pridemom on Dec 31, 2015 0:04:32 GMT
Now I understand. Still ridiculous that there are any states not in compliancy. I dunno. It can be in interesting discussion into states rights vs federal rights. More and more US citizens seem to be willing to sweep away their state's right to have a state government. DL have always been the domain of the state. By imposing a mandatory standards states are forced into changing their procedures and equipment for producing DL. It is a big funding investment for some states who aren't ready to revamp the equipment and systems they have in use now for issuing a **drivers** license which was not originally intended to function as an id for anything other than driving. It certainly was never intended to be a federal id card. The federal government isn't footing the bill for those costs. If the federal government wants a federal id card why not create one and have it paid for (equipment and salaries) by the federal government. Or require all US citizens to acquire a passport instead of making this a state problem. Well, my state is one of the five non-compliant states. They just overhauled our state ID system to where all are processed and made in one location. I don't understand why we are not compliant. I have emailed my state rep asking what the issue is. Our family has a trip this summer, so I have to add four Passports to the expense to fly within the country?
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