Rainbow
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Post by Rainbow on Dec 31, 2015 15:51:14 GMT
What about kids under 18? I know a kid who is going to be flying on Jan. 11 and he is 16 years old and has no ID at all.
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Post by STBC on Dec 31, 2015 16:29:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 17:19:06 GMT
Just a word of caution - even if your state is compliant, you must have the compliant license. You will have to show the additional documentation, unless it's your first time getting a license because most states require the same documents for first-timers. The compliant license should have a symbol such as a star on it.
Please check your state's driver license website to see what they require before assuming you're good to go.
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mimima
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Post by mimima on Dec 31, 2015 17:22:38 GMT
Apparently not
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 31, 2015 19:16:45 GMT
Wait what? I'm going to need a passport the next time I want to fly to Florida or Virginia? Do we also have to go through customs? Will I get an awesome stamp of that states seal in my passport? Why is this a thing? I don't think this is going to help at all.
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Post by wezee on Dec 31, 2015 19:17:24 GMT
Nope. I don't fly very often so not a big deal
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quiltz
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Post by quiltz on Dec 31, 2015 19:34:04 GMT
Wait what? I'm going to need a passport the next time I want to fly to Florida or Virginia? Do we also have to go through customs? Will I get an awesome stamp of that states seal in my passport? Why is this a thing? I don't think this is going to help at all. No you will not go thru customs or get a stamp.
In many countries, a passport is the best form of ID. I believe that since the USA is so big and there are so many states, that it is difficult for there to be a "central place" where ID can be confirmed, so a passport may be the way.
I live in Canada and have always had a passport, as we used to travel a lot to Europe when I was young. Then I worked for the Federal Government and had to get a 'security profile' done, in this case it means an RCMP file with my fingerprints and background information.
As soon as it became available, I applied for a NEXUS card, which would allow me to travel to the USA & Mexico with just this card. It is also now called a "Global Entry Card". It is renewed every 5 years. I also had my iris scanned and this is in a data file, that I was told would be linked to Intepole.
I live an honest life and have nothing to hide. I declare everything, even my tiny Dollar Tree items when I shop in the USA and come back into Canada. Why not? A few $ that I have had to pay, usually the CDN HST is minimal.
That is the cost of living in a free country and being secure.
Does it take some of my time? Yes it does, but again, if my "identity" would be stolen, via a credit card, I have the necessary back up that would make the hassle of determining the real "me" a whole lot easier.
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 31, 2015 19:38:04 GMT
What about kids under 18? I know a kid who is going to be flying on Jan. 11 and he is 16 years old and has no ID at all. From the United site. Children ages 15-17 traveling alone need one of the following: Driver's license Passport Credit card School ID Company ID Library card Birth certificate Social Security card Organization ID (such as athletic club, etc.) Proof of auto insurance in passenger's name Children ages 5-14 traveling alone are not required to show ID at time of check-in, however, they are encouraged to carry some form of ID during travel.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 31, 2015 19:45:22 GMT
What about kids under 18? I know a kid who is going to be flying on Jan. 11 and he is 16 years old and has no ID at all. From the United site. Children ages 15-17 traveling alone need one of the following: Driver's license Passport Credit card School ID Company ID Library card Birth certificate Social Security card Organization ID (such as athletic club, etc.) Proof of auto insurance in passenger's name Children ages 5-14 traveling alone are not required to show ID at time of check-in, however, they are encouraged to carry some form of ID during travel. if an adult is flting with them, then the kid doesn't need id
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happymomma
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Post by happymomma on Dec 31, 2015 19:55:45 GMT
Wow, thanks for posting this. I'm off to California in March and need to research this now. Good ol' Michigan...it looks like I may be okay until October, if I am reading right? I have no desire to ever travel out of the country, so I don't feel like dropping the moolah for a passport. However, I do have a United States Uniformed Services Identification and Privilege Card, so I wonder if that would fill the requirement. I googled but can't seem to find anything stating that that is an acceptable card. I've never been in the military but my husband is a 100% disabled Veteran so we were issued this card that entitles us to shop on military bases, etc. Gah! I take a tiny break from this place and come back to see all the informative posts from you lovely Peas. Moral of the story...don't take a break from this place! It's required reading.
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bunnylady
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Post by bunnylady on Dec 31, 2015 19:58:06 GMT
Huh.
I'm in Texas and fly for business a lot. I have a valid passport so I suppose I could use that. I also have a military ID that I've sometimes used when I couldn't find my DL in my wallet.
This should make traveling loads more fun... LOL
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paget
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Post by paget on Dec 31, 2015 20:20:35 GMT
Well crap. Never heard of this. I'm in non compliant Washington. Wth?! I'm flying to Maine in May so I better figure out something- no passport. Maybe I'll do the enhanced license but still a hassle as I just renewed. :/
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Post by cmpeter on Dec 31, 2015 20:31:52 GMT
I live in WA and have been hearing about this in the news for months. We all have passports, so I haven't been stressed about it personally. I do hope our state gets it together soon though and all licenses are compliant before this becomes a hassle for travelers.
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RosieKat
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Post by RosieKat on Dec 31, 2015 20:33:46 GMT
Hmmm, according to the Dept. of Homeland Security, as well as the links to TSA that they have provided, this isn't actually in effect yet (or beginning 1/16). It was provided that enforcement of this began no sooner than 1/16, which is probably where the story is from. Department of Homeland Security linkWhat is REAL ID? Passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act enacted the 9/11 Commission’s recommendation that the Federal Government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses.” The Act established minimum security standards for state-issued driver’s licenses and identification cards and prohibits Federal agencies from accepting for official purposes licenses and identification cards from states that do not meet these standards. States have made considerable progress in meeting this key recommendation of the 9/11 Commission and every state has a more secure driver’s license today than before the passage of the Act. Do I need a passport for domestic air travel starting January 2016? A: No. DHS is in the process of scheduling plans for implementing REAL ID enforcement at airports. DHS will ensure that the traveling public has ample notice (at least, 120 days) before any changes are made that might affect their travel planning. Until enforcement at the airports begins, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) will continue to accept state-issued driver’s licenses and identification cards from all states, as well other forms of acceptable identification listed on the TSA website.
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Post by happyOCgirl on Dec 31, 2015 20:56:32 GMT
I had to renew my California DL this year. I got the notice in the mail I had to go into the DMV to renew instead of online (they added a fingerprint to the DL). I tried to make an appointment the day I got the notice (it expired in 2 months). The earliest appointment within a 50 mile radius I could get was a month after it expired! There were appointments for undocumented people - even on Saturdays for them only. Now,this was beginning of this year, so I hope the DMV is not as impacted now. I can only imagine what it's going to be like to have to show all that documentation! I better make an appointment now. Hahaha You know, I read an article from an elderly Russian man around the time the full body scans started at the airports. He said growing up, the government slowly took over every aspect of their lives by saying 'it was for their safety'. The citizens didn't really notice each step, until it was all overwhelmingly government control. I think about that article when our country tells us it's 'for our safety'. I completely understand protecting our country, but I sure have a happy memory running out on the tarmac to great my grandparents as they walked down the stairs in 1975.
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Post by cyndijane on Jan 1, 2016 0:12:09 GMT
I had to renew my California DL this year. I got the notice in the mail I had to go into the DMV to renew instead of online (they added a fingerprint to the DL). I tried to make an appointment the day I got the notice (it expired in 2 months). The earliest appointment within a 50 mile radius I could get was a month after it expired! There were appointments for undocumented people - even on Saturdays for them only. Now,this was beginning of this year, so I hope the DMV is not as impacted now. I can only imagine what it's going to be like to have to show all that documentation! I better make an appointment now. Hahaha You know, I read an article from an elderly Russian man around the time the full body scans started at the airports. He said growing up, the government slowly took over every aspect of their lives by saying 'it was for their safety'. The citizens didn't really notice each step, until it was all overwhelmingly government control. I think about that article when our country tells us it's 'for our safety'. I completely understand protecting our country, but I sure have a happy memory running out on the tarmac to great my grandparents as they walked down the stairs in 1975. I remember the same anticipation and excitement being right outside the gate as my family was deboarding the plane. Now we have to wait for them at baggage claim.
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Post by mama2three on Jan 1, 2016 1:49:00 GMT
Interesting - I wasn't aware of this at all. (My state is compliant so I'm sure that's why I haven't seen it). But we have a company office in Illinois and we travel a lot for our jobs. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Coworkers forced to buy a passport to do their (domestic based) job seems a little odd. If they are forced to get a passport for job related travel but wouldn't expect to need it otherwise, then they could argue that the employer should pick up the cost to obtain the passport.
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Post by mama2three on Jan 1, 2016 1:55:01 GMT
What about kids under 18? I know a kid who is going to be flying on Jan. 11 and he is 16 years old and has no ID at all. From the United site. Children ages 15-17 traveling alone need one of the following: Driver's license Passport Credit card School ID Company ID Library card Birth certificate Social Security card Organization ID (such as athletic club, etc.) Proof of auto insurance in passenger's name Children ages 5-14 traveling alone are not required to show ID at time of check-in, however, they are encouraged to carry some form of ID during travel. Even if they don't need ID, it's a good idea to get a 16 yr old an official ID. You can probably get a "non-driver license" at your DMV if the teen does not yet drive. We did this this summer for all 3 kids because IDs were needed for entry to certain places visited with summer travel camps (West Point, Coast Guard station, etc).
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Post by mama2three on Jan 1, 2016 1:57:41 GMT
If you go the route of getting a non driver license and want to have it for a mid January trip, it would be a good idea to be there at the license office first thing Saturday am with the paperwork in order ( check website for what you need to bring).
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Post by *KAS* on Jan 2, 2016 2:11:28 GMT
Interesting - I wasn't aware of this at all. (My state is compliant so I'm sure that's why I haven't seen it). But we have a company office in Illinois and we travel a lot for our jobs. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Coworkers forced to buy a passport to do their (domestic based) job seems a little odd. If they are forced to get a passport for job related travel but wouldn't expect to need it otherwise, then they could argue that the employer should pick up the cost to obtain the passport. That's why I think it will be interesting. We have more than 2,000 employees in multiple countries. I'm not so sure they would pay for it because of the precedent it could set. I should see my counterpart from the Chicago office this month. I'll have to ask her...
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quiltz
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Post by quiltz on Jan 2, 2016 2:18:59 GMT
In Canada, there's a place on your income tax form to list items that you had to purchase (uniforms or other expenses) that you can use as a deduction.
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Post by AnastasiaBeaverhausn on Jan 5, 2016 2:01:23 GMT
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jan 5, 2016 2:29:30 GMT
Just a word of caution - even if your state is compliant, you must have the compliant license. You will have to show the additional documentation, unless it's your first time getting a license because most states require the same documents for first-timers. The compliant license should have a symbol such as a star on it. Please check your state's driver license website to see what they require before assuming you're good to go. Please cite your source for this, because I am attempting to confirm this one way or another, and my state's DMV info page on RealID says that in most cases, you can wait until your license is up for renewal before having to get the RealID version.
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julieb
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Post by julieb on Jan 5, 2016 3:47:18 GMT
Of course Illinois is on the non-compliance list. Typical of this damn state. My son travelled this week and carried his passport just in case.....
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 5, 2016 4:07:32 GMT
Just a word of caution - even if your state is compliant, you must have the compliant license. You will have to show the additional documentation, unless it's your first time getting a license because most states require the same documents for first-timers. The compliant license should have a symbol such as a star on it. Please check your state's driver license website to see what they require before assuming you're good to go. Please cite your source for this, because I am attempting to confirm this one way or another, and my state's DMV info page on RealID says that in most cases, you can wait until your license is up for renewal before having to get the RealID version. I've been trying to figure this out too. Mine does not have a star on it, but isn't up for renewal until next January. I don't mind getting a new one early, but I won't renew early if I don't have too.
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NoWomanNoCry
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Jan 5, 2016 5:07:20 GMT
I'm in Pa and they have a extension so I'm guessing when and if they do do this will I need more paperwork than the norm to get my DL with a star on it?
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likescarrots
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Post by likescarrots on Jan 5, 2016 7:37:15 GMT
The airports are going to be a disaster when this starts! It doesn't seem like most people even know about it? I had no idea this was going on, I live in a non-compliant state and am traveling out of state right now. Luckily (?) I'm flying home on the 9th so I guess I will miss the cut-off, but one day later and I have no idea what would have happened. Maybe I'd just be stuck in Hawaii forever . Getting through airport security will be a mess. I have a passport but don't carry it with me when traveling in the US, I guess I'll have to now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 13:56:19 GMT
Just a word of caution - even if your state is compliant, you must have the compliant license. You will have to show the additional documentation, unless it's your first time getting a license because most states require the same documents for first-timers. The compliant license should have a symbol such as a star on it. Please check your state's driver license website to see what they require before assuming you're good to go. Please cite your source for this, because I am attempting to confirm this one way or another, and my state's DMV info page on RealID says that in most cases, you can wait until your license is up for renewal before having to get the RealID version. This is what my state's DMV told me when I went to renew my license. I was told the new ID law didn't go into effect until 2017, so I could renew my regular license, then come back to get the Star ID closer to the enforcement date. But I didn't want to pay to renew, then pay again in a couple of years. So I went home, gathered all the required documentation and returned to get the Star ID the next day. There is a lot of confusion about what is going to happen because it's not been enforced. If your state's website is not clear, I would call and talk to a real person. They should have the latest up-to-date information.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 14:22:29 GMT
I'm in Pa and they have a extension so I'm guessing when and if they do do this will I need more paperwork than the norm to get my DL with a star on it? Probably. I'm only going by what I experienced, but I had to verify my identity and date of birth, my SSN, and my place of residence. It was exactly the same documentation I had to provide when I became a licensed driver in this state. It was more than simply renewing my license. But now that I have the real ID compliant license, I don't have to provide the documents each time it comes up for renewal. It really is all very confusing because the states have different requirements.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 14:30:57 GMT
Please cite your source for this, because I am attempting to confirm this one way or another, and my state's DMV info page on RealID says that in most cases, you can wait until your license is up for renewal before having to get the RealID version. I've been trying to figure this out too. Mine does not have a star on it, but isn't up for renewal until next January. I don't mind getting a new one early, but I won't renew early if I don't have too. You're in CO, right? According to what I've read, any DL issued in Colorado after 2013 is compliant but once it comes up for renewal it will have the star. So why didn't they just go ahead and put the star in 2013? Did you have to provide the documentation to get your renewed the last time?
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