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Post by paigepea on Feb 5, 2016 13:46:17 GMT
Our dance studio is ordering team jackets for the first time. Dh is against getting my girls' names on their jackets(he's against the jackets, but that is an entirely different thread!).
i asked around at the studio and it seems like all of older dd's friends are getting their first name. She is 10. There is another girl in her group with the same name so she said she's getting First Name Last Initial and asked what my dd is doing.
Do do you think first names on team jackets aren't a good idea? My dh doesn't think strangers should know the girls' first names. I suggested putting initials. Older dd could have MIS. Someone at the studio last night suggested putting dd's last name because then I could pass it down to little dd.
My little dd is 7 and I get not putting her first name on her team jacket. I don't know that everyone in her group is getting one. They're pricey and the 7 yr olds are kind of in a different stage of commitment. Don't know if I should get one for little dd.
Have you put first names or last names on team jackets? Were you happy you spent the money on the team jackets? They are not mandatory - just cool.
Paige.
Eta - I should have clarified that these aren't outerwear type jackets. They're warm up jackets.
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Post by anniebeth24 on Feb 5, 2016 13:52:35 GMT
DD had team jackets for ice skating. Many of the girls got them without any name on it. That way, it could be passed down to a sibling or sold at the club swap event.
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Post by YooHoot on Feb 5, 2016 13:53:28 GMT
First name only.
But in your case (and how small she is) I wouldn't put a name on it.
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Post by littlemama on Feb 5, 2016 14:05:33 GMT
First name for a warmup jacket.
Last name for a varsity jacket
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Post by scrappert on Feb 5, 2016 14:08:30 GMT
First name for a warmup jacket. Last name for a varsity jacket I agree!  |
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Post by leannec on Feb 5, 2016 14:14:10 GMT
Our dd's had dance warm up jackets with their first names on them ... that was what everyone in the class did ... jackets are just a part of the experience Seriously, how likely are you to run into a stranger that needs to use your child's first name to do them harm? |
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Post by psiluvu on Feb 5, 2016 14:15:35 GMT
Outerwear hockey jackets always had the last name only. Football warm up jackets have no names.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Feb 5, 2016 14:22:48 GMT
I get where you husband is coming from (well about the name, not sure why he's against the jackets entirely). But like a PP said, what are the odds you'll encounter a stranger out to do harm to your dd? Also, having a name on them makes them easier to find which is yours. Our warm ups have first name, last initial.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 14:35:23 GMT
I vote no name on the outside. Or if it must be a last name only. Given that something like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys are victims of being molested I'd say the chances are higher than some peas want to acknowledge about the dangers.
I don't want to give a stranger the information they need to make the child think they are friends. Studies have shown even teens tend to think if someone knows their name they must know them.
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Post by maryland on Feb 5, 2016 15:46:59 GMT
Our dance jackets has the girls names on them. They were having problems years ago with the jackets getting taken so they started getting the names and it hasn't been a problem. Some choose not to get names so they can pass them on to their siblings. They also ordered fancy jerseys with a number and their name on the back. The kids love them!
Our girls either had first or last names on their soccer jerseys. They love having their names on their jerseys.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 5, 2016 16:01:17 GMT
I vote no name on the outside. Or if it must be a last name only. Given that something like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys are victims of being molested I'd say the chances are higher than some peas want to acknowledge about the dangers. I don't want to give a stranger the information they need to make the child think they are friends. Studies have shown even teens tend to think if someone knows their name they must know them.  Even though it's highly unlikely, it gives a complete stranger access to information they really don't need. "Hey, kid!" = stranger. "Hey, Jennie!" = friend! KWIM? Kids are weird in the way that if they've known someone for ten minutes, they are automatically "friends" and if someone they aren't familiar with uses their name (especially their first name), they just assume they should know who it is and can be tricked more easily. That's why now parents are told to teach their kids a "code word" that only their immediate family knows, so if someone else shows up telling them their mom or dad sent them, the kids should ask the random someone if they know the family code word and if they don't know it, the kid doesn't leave with them and should to go to a safe place. |
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 5, 2016 16:12:12 GMT
For both my boys the general trend was last names on pretty much everything. For my boys, it was their version of our last name (a nickname based on our last name that is commonly misspelled.) They both picked up the same nickname except it was 'big anxious sort of last name' and 'little anxious sort of last name' so even the misspelled named stuff could get passed down. If I had a girl though? Oh my, I would have had at least one team jacket embroidered with a pretty monogram. Even though I am not a particularly girly-girl, I am a girl child of the south and we monogram everything.  |
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Post by anonrefugee on Feb 5, 2016 16:14:06 GMT
I vote no name on the outside. Or if it must be a last name only. Given that something like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys are victims of being molested I'd say the chances are higher than some peas want to acknowledge about the dangers. I don't want to give a stranger the information they need to make the child think they are friends. Studies have shown even teens tend to think if someone knows their name they must know them. I know I'm slightly off-topic, but it astounds me how many high school girls have their drill team or cheerleading emblem on their car, with their name. Sometimes they include last name too. All of the rosters can be found linked to school website, and it wouldn't take very long to search a home address. A couple of their mothers are my friends, and I remember their paranoia during preschool years. But they've lost it, while their HS kids are out in the world at concerts, malls, jogging trails, etc. |
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Post by SnowWhite on Feb 5, 2016 16:16:43 GMT
That's why now parents are told to teach their kids a "code word" that only their immediate family knows, so if someone else shows up telling them their mom or dad sent them, the kids should ask the random someone if they know the family code word and if they don't know it, the kid doesn't leave with them and should to go to a safe place. If someone is close enough to relay the "code word", they're close enough to grab the child. I've never liked seeing this recommendation. |
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Post by myshelly on Feb 5, 2016 16:37:57 GMT
I'm in the South. We embroider everything with a monogram or name. Seriously, you walk into a preschool and every single diaper bag, nap mat, backpack, lunchbox, coat, outfit, and bow is embroidered with a name or monogram boys and girls.
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Post by melanell on Feb 5, 2016 16:52:31 GMT
I vote no name on the outside. Or if it must be a last name only. Given that something like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys are victims of being molested I'd say the chances are higher than some peas want to acknowledge about the dangers. I don't want to give a stranger the information they need to make the child think they are friends. Studies have shown even teens tend to think if someone knows their name they must know them. I agree with this in theory, but I also think that in this day and age, with so many people putting their kid(s)' name and photos all over Facebook, instagram, blogs, etc., that many, many casual acquaintances and strangers already know our kids' names & faces, plus a whole lot of other info about them. So when you weigh a warm-up jacket worn at one place against the plethora of info that exists online about some children, the jackets seem like no big deal at all. I figure more strangers hear my child's name at the playgrounds and parks we visit than the dance studio. And the parks and playgrounds are far more accessible to everyone in the area, unlike the studio that probably doesn't allow just anyone in at any time. |
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Post by breetheflea on Feb 5, 2016 16:58:20 GMT
One of my kids soccer teams put first names on their jersey's (after asking the club if it was OK) apparently it was not OK because now all names (first and last) are banned... I don't leave my child (6 years old at the time) alone at practice or games so didn't have a problem with it but apparently it was a kidnapping risk.
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Post by Miss Lerins Momma on Feb 5, 2016 17:33:05 GMT
I wouldn't do a name at all.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 5, 2016 18:12:04 GMT
We do first name and dog's name on the kids hoodies in 4-H. Just to be different  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 18:22:05 GMT
I'd probably pick either an initial or a monogram rather than a full name...either first or last at that age. I do agree that someone knowing your name makes them seem ok/familiar.
I remember back in my Jr/Sr year of high school I was in a club that had our names on the backs of tshirts. We were at a competition and eating at a pizza place and some guy near me called my name and waved. I turned, and was confused because I had never seen him before. Then he pointed to the back of my shirt. Now, nothing happened, but it did make me realize what "putting my name out there" was like and honestly this was way before social media.
So no, most of my kids things didn't have their name embroidered, but did some initials or monograms.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Feb 5, 2016 19:17:45 GMT
I have never been worried about hiding a child's name. When I became aware that people didn't want names on things, I started paying attention to how easy it is to determine a child's name. When I am in public, it rarely takes me any time to figure out a child's first name just by listening to their interactions with their parents.
If I was concerned, a nickname might be a cute way to go, especially if it wasn't a nickname that the child actually uses (because then it would be the same as the first or last name).
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Feb 5, 2016 19:24:31 GMT
That's why now parents are told to teach their kids a "code word" that only their immediate family knows, so if someone else shows up telling them their mom or dad sent them, the kids should ask the random someone if they know the family code word and if they don't know it, the kid doesn't leave with them and should to go to a safe place. If someone is close enough to relay the "code word", they're close enough to grab the child. I've never liked seeing this recommendation. I've been the stranger who was sent, and it worked fine in that scenario. It was a pickup line where no one could really grab the child - they had to willingly enter your car. I was picking up my DD and her friend from a school dance, and I was asked to pick up another child. I had DD find her, then before she got in the car, I gave her the code word. I have a feeling she has been picked up by strangers more often than my DD has been (literally never). Though, when DD was little, my friend had a good point about the code word. She said that if she said a certain word to DD, DD would completely believe her, even though it wasn't an established code word. I immediately knew she was right, because it was based on something my DD knew I loved. DD confirmed for me that she would have gone with the friend in that case. |
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Post by scrapaddie on Feb 5, 2016 19:45:07 GMT
I vote no name on the outside. Or if it must be a last name only. Given that something like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys are victims of being molested I'd say the chances are higher than some peas want to acknowledge about the dangers. I don't want to give a stranger the information they need to make the child think they are friends. Studies have shown even teens tend to think if someone knows their name they must know them. But children are most often molested by someone they know.... |
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Post by SnowWhite on Feb 5, 2016 20:15:00 GMT
I vote no name on the outside. Or if it must be a last name only. Given that something like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys are victims of being molested I'd say the chances are higher than some peas want to acknowledge about the dangers. I don't want to give a stranger the information they need to make the child think they are friends. Studies have shown even teens tend to think if someone knows their name they must know them. But children are most often molested by someone they know.... This is absolutely true. The real risk of molestation, abuse or abduction from a stranger are almost ZERO. But the news makes everyone paranoid and then they worry about putting their child's name on their jacket Take the time to read The Gift of Fear and Protecting the Gift. |
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Post by wezee on Feb 5, 2016 22:04:07 GMT
Last name
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Feb 5, 2016 22:11:33 GMT
I vote no name on the outside. Or if it must be a last name only. Given that something like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys are victims of being molested I'd say the chances are higher than some peas want to acknowledge about the dangers. I don't want to give a stranger the information they need to make the child think they are friends. Studies have shown even teens tend to think if someone knows their name they must know them. Right but they are most likely to be molested by someone they know, so the stranger danger would not be an issue to me. Statistics are 3/4 are molested by someone in their family or someone they already trust. If I thought my child was particularly naive or easily convinced. Would they think... they know my name and that might make an impact on their decision.. then I would go with NO name, because if you watch a child for even a short time you can probably figure out their first name. That said, my daughter has a warm up jacket, it has her first name on it. Never been an issue. |
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Post by RiverIsis on Feb 5, 2016 22:27:51 GMT
I vote no name on the outside. Or if it must be a last name only. Given that something like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys are victims of being molested I'd say the chances are higher than some peas want to acknowledge about the dangers. I don't want to give a stranger the information they need to make the child think they are friends. Studies have shown even teens tend to think if someone knows their name they must know them. I know I'm slightly off-topic, but it astounds me how many high school girls have their drill team or cheerleading emblem on their car, with their name. Sometimes they include last name too. All of the rosters can be found linked to school website, and it wouldn't take very long to search a home address. A couple of their mothers are my friends, and I remember their paranoia during preschool years. But they've lost it, while their HS kids are out in the world at concerts, malls, jogging trails, etc. I don't like the car thing TBH. Heck I even "considered" whether to put my DS's school decal on my car because it gives information that isn't always readily out there. The reason I don't like the labels is that it tends to identify a female operated car (either the mom or the drill team member) honestly, look around and see how many male operated cars have decals on them. I just think that sets up women in a strange carpark scenario. I'd probably pick either an initial or a monogram rather than a full name...either first or last at that age. I do agree that someone knowing your name makes them seem ok/familiar. I remember back in my Jr/Sr year of high school I was in a club that had our names on the backs of tshirts. We were at a competition and eating at a pizza place and some guy near me called my name and waved. I turned, and was confused because I had never seen him before. Then he pointed to the back of my shirt. Now, nothing happened, but it did make me realize what "putting my name out there" was like and honestly this was way before social media. So no, most of my kids things didn't have their name embroidered, but did some initials or monograms. you know, people only have to sit at the next table and chances are they can grab at least one person's name at the table from the conversation, especially a group of giggling teenagers in a restaurant. Try it out for yourself. |
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Post by johnnysmom on Feb 5, 2016 22:52:43 GMT
I have never been worried about hiding a child's name. When I became aware that people didn't want names on things, I started paying attention to how easy it is to determine a child's name. When I am in public, it rarely takes me any time to figure out a child's first name just by listening to their interactions with their parents. If I was concerned, a nickname might be a cute way to go, especially if it wasn't a nickname that the child actually uses (because then it would be the same as the first or last name). That's pretty much my thought. Any stranger who wanted to know my kid's name just had to follow me around Target for awhile, if it was a rough day they'd know his first, middle and last name in no time flat  As for what to put on the jacket, I'd either do nothing or whatever everyone else is doing. I have boys so it's different but here warm up shirts are typically done w/ last name. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 5, 2016 23:20:17 GMT
I know I'm slightly off-topic, but it astounds me how many high school girls have their drill team or cheerleading emblem on their car, with their name. Sometimes they include last name too. All of the rosters can be found linked to school website, and it wouldn't take very long to search a home address. A couple of their mothers are my friends, and I remember their paranoia during preschool years. But they've lost it, while their HS kids are out in the world at concerts, malls, jogging trails, etc. I'd probably pick either an initial or a monogram rather than a full name...either first or last at that age. I do agree that someone knowing your name makes them seem ok/familiar. I remember back in my Jr/Sr year of high school I was in a club that had our names on the backs of tshirts. We were at a competition and eating at a pizza place and some guy near me called my name and waved. I turned, and was confused because I had never seen him before. Then he pointed to the back of my shirt. Now, nothing happened, but it did make me realize what "putting my name out there" was like and honestly this was way before social media. So no, most of my kids things didn't have their name embroidered, but did some initials or monograms. you know, people only have to sit at the next table and chances are they can grab at least one person's name at the table from the conversation, especially a group of giggling teenagers in a restaurant. Try it out for yourself. You just need a big ole I heart my German Shepherd Dog sticker right next to it |
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 5, 2016 23:21:52 GMT
I don't like the car thing TBH. Heck I even "considered" whether to put my DS's school decal on my car because it gives information that isn't always readily out there. The reason I don't like the labels is that it tends to identify a female operated car (either the mom or the drill team member) honestly, look around and see how many male operated cars have decals on them. I just think that sets up women in a strange carpark scenario.you know, people only have to sit at the next table and chances are they can grab at least one person's name at the table from the conversation, especially a group of giggling teenagers in a restaurant. Try it out for yourself. You just need a big ole I heart my German Shepherd Dog sticker right next to it Or an "I support the NRA" sticker. |
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Even though it's highly unlikely, it gives a complete stranger access to information they really don't need. "Hey, kid!" = stranger. "Hey, Jennie!" = friend! KWIM? Kids are weird in the way that if they've known someone for ten minutes, they are automatically "friends" and if someone they aren't familiar with uses their name (especially their first name), they just assume they should know who it is and can be tricked more easily. 
