huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Feb 15, 2016 16:49:40 GMT
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Post by jackie on Feb 15, 2016 16:58:42 GMT
I did and was pretty disgusted. It rings very true to me and if it is, I'm just sickened.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 16:59:20 GMT
I did..certainly did not know most of the allegations, etc. What I didn't like was the author over and over and over again playing the race card!
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Post by giatocj on Feb 15, 2016 17:01:06 GMT
I read it two days ago and will be waiting to see how it plays out. It looks pretty damning, though...and has quite a ring of truth to it.
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Post by tinydogmafia on Feb 15, 2016 17:02:37 GMT
I read it Saturday I believe.
I have always been a huge Peyton supporter.
After reading that... No more. I'd love to know the redacted portion. I have a feeling he came on to her hard and was rejected hard which made him turn on her. He and his father destroyed her entire career. It is disgusting. How she was treated was disgusting. The name calling, the assumption she was a lesbian. Many people will say this is exactly why women shouldn't be involved in men's sports. And I will say this is exactly why women should be in every sport, every STEM field, every everything. Men need to see us as equals. By all accounts this woman was brilliant at what she did and yet was treated as less than human and driven out of not one, but two jobs by the Mannings.
I am disappointed that one of the few professional athletes I had respected as someone with class and good behavior was all a facade. Shame on me I guess for believing that when in reality he is just another spoiled, protected athlete who was protected at all costs to protect his school and his name.
I have been a big NFL fan for many years, but I am really starting to lose interest. I find this behavior and other behaviors, crimes and excuses deplorable.
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huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Feb 15, 2016 17:07:23 GMT
I was a huge Peyton Manning fan so this just made me ill! How they completely trashed and ruined her career is shameful.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 17:11:18 GMT
This is old news but didn't stop Manning from being the NFL golden boy for basically his whole career. It has rarely come up in the media and has never really gained traction with the public for whatever reason.
I think Manning is a great player, but not the great person he's presented as.
He violated her and then went on to smear her in direction opposition to court mandates. Sure, she got settlements, but he ruined her professional (and probably personal) life.
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Post by knit.pea on Feb 15, 2016 17:17:08 GMT
Disgusting. The public truly doesn't know sports stars, movie stars, celebrities ... as evidenced time and time again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 17:18:24 GMT
I read it two days ago and will be waiting to see how it plays out. It looks pretty damning, though...and has quite a ring of truth to it. It's already played out. The school settled with her, and she won her defamation case. AND he was forced to re-settle the defamation case again after he violated its terms (which, by the way, she has always honored).
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Post by hols on Feb 15, 2016 17:27:14 GMT
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Post by Meri-Lyn on Feb 15, 2016 17:33:11 GMT
And this guy sounds like a Tennessee fan with an ax to grind. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 17:34:37 GMT
That article is gross. Manning did wrong, and that's the issue. If it were an isolated incident in college, while inappropriate and vile, it wouldn't be a huge deal in the grand scheme of things. But his ongoing behavior about the situation, maligning her even in violation of court order, and seemingly intentionally ruining her career... that's a big problem and suggests more things about his character. There is zero remorse, only the desire to blame her and lie about what happened. To suggest it doesn't matter just because it's Shaun King talking about it is stupid. He's not the only one talking about it now, for the record.
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huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Feb 15, 2016 17:36:33 GMT
He has the transcript posted.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 15, 2016 17:37:57 GMT
You have to be careful of forming your opinions based on all this--
First-most of the controversial slander stuff from the U of Tenn was done by the one other coach--Rollo the one who actually was calling her a lesbian and other names--along with others doing it but it was carefully worded by the author of this newest article that he did not say that Peyton was calling her those names.
A large majority of the actual court records--the accusations with depositions were about the her being accused of having a vulgar mouth.
The accusations on blaming any incident on another player to keep her job were also done by the coaching staff not Peyton.
Look at Peyton's history the last 13 years--do you really think all that was a lie?
And it was NOT "by all accounts" the woman being driven from 2 jobs by the Mannings--the coaches, athletic staff, Peyton did not attend the 2nd university that she was employed at, and it was there coaches/staff who were responsible for her departure. I cannot imagine that the Mannings had that much power over these decisions then.
Regarding the incident at U of Tenn, from what I read it was settled and closed, we don't know what was settled upon.
This second incident and suit came about because of the mysterious packet delivered to her office. Think about it--do you think the Mannings would go to those lengths to regurgitate what was already over with (remember they settled it) and drag their names through the mud all over again?
I don't think so.
Oh I should mention that I don't care about Peyton manning at all.
What bugs me about this article is the timing and so much of the actual lying and bullcrap was said and done by people around him, that because he just won the Super Bowl media is digging on him. Or it could be that someone is trying to avenge a past issue.
Plus the fact that it wasn't Peyton who was sued for defamation--it was the U of Tenn that was and lost!!
The whole thing now is just off!
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Post by valleyview on Feb 15, 2016 17:39:48 GMT
I read an article about this today, and all I can say is that we were easily misled. Manning's dad is so well respected in sports, that anyone would squash the story without a second thought.
It's probably a good reminder to us that sports entertainment is just as scripted as anything else. The HGH story/rumor has certainly shown us a not so nice side of Peyton.
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Post by josie on Feb 15, 2016 17:40:58 GMT
If you lived in Indianapolis you probably would not doubt one word of this. I still can't believe Peyton's national public image has never been tainted when those who live there know the truth about him. He has a horrible reputation for the liking of young girls at local colleges/schools. There have been plenty of incidents swept under the rug.
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 15, 2016 17:44:03 GMT
Those two articles are precisely why I stress critical thinking skills with my kids.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 17:44:27 GMT
Regarding the incident at U of Tenn, from what I read it was settled and closed, we don't know what was settled upon. This second incident and suit came about because of the mysterious packet delivered to her office. Think about it--do you think the Mannings would go to those lengths to regurgitate what was already over with (remember they settled it) and drag their names through the mud all over again? I don't think so. We do know what was settled - U of T paid her $300,000. Peyton Manning addressed this issue in his book and defamed her there; that case was settled out of court. Then Manning was forced to resettle that case a couple of years later because he violated the terms of the settlement in talking about her to ESPN. She, for the record, has never spoken of him publicly - which is what the terms of the settlement required.
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Feb 15, 2016 17:46:13 GMT
Wow, I'm astounded by the article. I don't follow sports at all, but Peyton Manning seems like the all around good guy. I hope this gets more press and more people read about it, and ask questions. Even though it's a done deal, like Busypea said, I'd still like to see the truth get out.
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Post by terri on Feb 15, 2016 17:47:21 GMT
I remember hearing some of this a long time ago so I have not thought well of him for years.
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Post by Laurie on Feb 15, 2016 17:48:59 GMT
You have to be careful of forming your opinions based on all this-- First-most of the controversial slander stuff from the U of Tenn was done by the one other coach--Rollo the one who actually was calling her a lesbian and other names--along with others doing it but it was carefully worded by the author of this newest article that he did not say that Peyton was calling her those names. A large majority of the actual court records--the accusations with depositions were about the her being accused of having a vulgar mouth. The accusations on blaming any incident on another player to keep her job were also done by the coaching staff not Peyton. Look at Peyton's history the last 13 years--do you really think all that was a lie? And it was NOT "by all accounts" the woman being driven from 2 jobs by the Mannings--the coaches, athletic staff, Peyton did not attend the 2nd university that she was employed at, and it was there coaches/staff who were responsible for her departure. I cannot imagine that the Mannings had that much power over these decisions then. Regarding the incident at U of Tenn, from what I read it was settled and closed, we don't know what was settled upon. This second incident and suit came about because of the mysterious packet delivered to her office. Think about it--do you think the Mannings would go to those lengths to regurgitate what was already over with (remember they settled it) and drag their names through the mud all over again? I don't think so. Oh I should mention that I don't care about Peyton manning at all. What bugs me about this article is the timing and so much of the actual lying and bullcrap was said and done by people around him, that because he just won the Super Bowl media is digging on him. Or it could be that someone is trying to avenge a past issue. The whole thing now is just off! Regardless of who was the one actually doing the blaming it still comes down to Payton putting his testicles and rectum on her face. Also in the 2nd court case he did testify about her supposed vulgar mouth and not one person has stepped in and backed him up. He is a disgusting POS but for whatever reason the media has been mesmerized by him. I suspect it is because of his dad. Hopefully he gets his comeuppance that is due to him.
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 15, 2016 17:49:23 GMT
And it was NOT "by all accounts" the woman being driven from 2 jobs by the Mannings--the coaches, athletic staff, Peyton did not attend the 2nd university that she was employed at, and it was there coaches/staff who were responsible for her departure. I cannot imagine that the Mannings had that much power over these decisions then. No, but it is in a smallish southern town and is a small religiously affiliated school that while isn't an evangelical school, they are very conservative and do not tolerate any kind of scandal. My guess is that they have a pretty serious conduct clause in their contracts and it wouldn't take much at all for the school to release her from employment.
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Post by Meri-Lyn on Feb 15, 2016 17:50:27 GMT
I read an article about this today, and all I can say is that we were easily misled. Manning's dad is so well respected in sports, that anyone would squash the story without a second thought. It's probably a good reminder to us that sports entertainment is just as scripted as anything else. The HGH story/rumor has certainly shown us a not so nice side of Peyton. Agreed! From what I've gathered the Manning family was very much involved in getting this 'hushed-up." I first heard this maybe...2 years ago? It was around the time the whole Jameis thing was heating up. Dh brings up the fact, that due to the lack of social media 20 years ago, it was way easier to sweep things under the rug, then they are now. As DH tells his Peyton jersey-wearing nephew. People, particularly celebrities, are not always what they seem.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 15, 2016 17:51:56 GMT
This is old news but didn't stop Manning from being the NFL golden boy for basically his whole career. It has rarely come up in the media and has never really gained traction with the public for whatever reason. I think Manning is a great player, but not the great person he's presented as. He violated her and then went on to smear her in direction opposition to court mandates. Sure, she got settlements, but he ruined her professional (and probably personal) life. I admit I didn't know anything about this story until you mentioned it in the Cam Newton thread @busypea and I've been completely disgusted by what I have read. The level of arrogance that Peyton & his dad have is astounding. To get away with a settlement on the initial incident and then ignore the nondisclosure clause and include the incident with their spin in the book?! I wish the defamation case had included the book being destroyed. @ihavetoomuchstuff I didn't think the author of the article overplayed the race card, my take-away was that Archie & Peyton continually used race in deflecting the charges and looking for scapegoats and to defame Naughright.
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Post by janeliz on Feb 15, 2016 17:54:06 GMT
I'm blown away by this. He's always seemed like such a Dudley Do Right---the part where he and his father are whining about her "vulgar mouth" would be comical if the surrounding circumstances weren't so disgusting and shameful. Wow.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 15, 2016 18:03:58 GMT
Regarding the incident at U of Tenn, from what I read it was settled and closed, we don't know what was settled upon. This second incident and suit came about because of the mysterious packet delivered to her office. Think about it--do you think the Mannings would go to those lengths to regurgitate what was already over with (remember they settled it) and drag their names through the mud all over again? I don't think so. We do know what was settled - U of T paid her $300,000. Peyton Manning addressed this issue in his book and defamed her there; that case was settled out of court. Then Manning was forced to resettle that case a couple of years later because he violated the terms of the settlement in talking about her to ESPN. She, for the record, has never spoken of him publicly - which is what the terms of the settlement required. The university was sued and lost because the coach was a pig! Peyton was not sued in that one from what I've read. Regarding the book, the claim was that she was ridiculed there (by Peyton saying she had a "vulgar mouth"). That was the defamation he was sued for the first time personally by her. They settled that a year after the suit was filed. He was not sued by her for any kind of sexual harassment. Manning was not charged with sexual battery or other crimes for the incidents. Like I said in my first post. One has to be careful in forming options and further distinguishing actual facts from what is one writers "take" on a story. Not all stories written by media are fact, or have to be facts in a linear timeline fashion, or even facts that go with the story written.
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Post by peano on Feb 15, 2016 18:06:27 GMT
I don't follow football and really couldn't give two shits about it. But what struck me is the repetitive stressing of Dr. Jamie Naughright having "good moral character". It's like they're discussing a schoolteacher candidate in 1882. I mean, it's great that witnesses were actually supporting her but her "good moral character" should hardly have been the focus in her defense. Can you imagine a man in the sports field defending his position by fielding accusations that he used vulgar language? It's laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 18:07:01 GMT
We do know what was settled - U of T paid her $300,000. Peyton Manning addressed this issue in his book and defamed her there; that case was settled out of court. Then Manning was forced to resettle that case a couple of years later because he violated the terms of the settlement in talking about her to ESPN. She, for the record, has never spoken of him publicly - which is what the terms of the settlement required. The university was sued and lost because the coach was a pig! Peyton was not sued in that one from what I've read. Regarding the book, the claim was that she was ridiculed there (by Peyton saying she had a "vulgar mouth"). That was the defamation he was sued for the first time personally by her. They settled that a year after the suit was filed. He was not sued by her for any kind of sexual harassment. Like I said in my first post. One has to be careful in forming options and further distinguishing actual facts from what is one writers "take" on a story. Not all stories written by media are fact, or have to be facts in a linear timeline fashion, or even facts that go with the story written. Ummm... my opinions are not based on one writer's story. I've been aware of this since it happened originally. I never said he was sued for sexual harassment. I clearly said she sued him for defamation. But go on and make assumptions that all anyone except you knows is from that one story.
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Post by PaperAngel on Feb 15, 2016 18:10:06 GMT
Always in the minority & often ridiculed for my unpopular view, I've always despised smug & pompous Peyton Manning. He makes my skin crawl, even through tv, so I'm not at all surprised by his sexist remarks, documented harassment/defamation, affairs while on the road, & banned substance rumors. Given Archie Manning's demands with NFL owners to draft/place his sons on teams he handpicked based on insider access, I have no doubt he also has influence at the college & local levels. Sadly, it's another example of the unpleasant glimpse behind the curtain of 'ole boy networks & billion dollar industries.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 18:11:11 GMT
This is old news but didn't stop Manning from being the NFL golden boy for basically his whole career. It has rarely come up in the media and has never really gained traction with the public for whatever reason. I think Manning is a great player, but not the great person he's presented as. He violated her and then went on to smear her in direction opposition to court mandates. Sure, she got settlements, but he ruined her professional (and probably personal) life. I admit I didn't know anything about this story until you mentioned it in the Cam Newton thread @busypea and I've been completely disgusted by what I have read. The level or arrogance that Peyton & his dad have is astounding. To get away with a settlement on the initial incident and then ignore the nondisclosure clause and include the incident with their spin in the book?! I wish the defamation case had included the book being destroyed. @ihavetoomuchstuff I didn't think the author of the article overplayed the race card, my take-away was that Archie & Peyton continually used race in deflectly the charges and looking for scapegoats and to defame Naughright. Honestly...anyone who behaves in such a manner is wrong....black, white purple or grey.....but when he continually talked about Cam Newton's behavior.....it got under my skin....yes clearly sexual assault is horrible and much worse than acting like an arrogant ahole....... but still one "crime" has nothing to do with the other.... Both Peyton and Cam Newton and any other athlete who behaves commits a crime or behaves poorly should be punished on the merits...not the color of their skin.
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