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Post by worrywart on Feb 17, 2016 3:47:06 GMT
I don't think it could be for getting discounted or free product because half of lots of products reviews now are all from people who "received a free or discounted product in exchange for my honest opinion"...If Amazon doesn't allow that, they have a lot of housecleaning to do!
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Post by cmpeter on Feb 17, 2016 3:56:44 GMT
I love Amazon. I am glad to hear they are cracking down on folks who write reviews for products that they received a discount. I have no idea how honest your honest review is...but you also have understand that once to accept something for your review, you are no longer bias free.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Feb 17, 2016 3:57:52 GMT
I have never reviewed anything on Amazon and I have made several (hundred) purchases. I'm confused though--you got a discount on the product from somewhere other than Amazon and left a review on Amazon? Amazon reviewing is a privilege, not a right. Their website, their rules. It doesn't matter how many other people have done it. If they want to clean house, they can do that--especially if what you did violates their website rules. Again though, I have never reviewed anything on Amazon so take my opinion for what it's worth. I'll even give you a discount if you agree with me.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 17, 2016 4:03:45 GMT
If you are giving reviews to receive discounts, it doesn't matter if the reviews are good or not--that point would be moot, and Amazon has done its job in identifying you as manipulating the review system.
You're surprised and upset by this?
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Post by moodyblue on Feb 17, 2016 5:11:05 GMT
I really don't know how this all works (I never write reviews, although I do read them.), but does it mean that if you can't submit reviews any more, you will not be able to get discounts on products you buy? Is that why you are working so hard to get this changed?
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Post by trollie on Feb 17, 2016 5:13:49 GMT
Are you kidding me? I can get a discount if I give a review? Who knew??!!>! I just made a decent sized purchase, I would totally review the product for a discount! Sheesh! I agree with this. But I have to ask, am I the only one who's simply too lazy to go review the products I buy from Amazon? No. I'm sitting there on that lazy bench with you. I have never reviewed a product. Now that I do Walmart Savings Catcher, I am constantly getting emails from Walmart to review their products. No thanks.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 17, 2016 5:23:28 GMT
I think unless you have purchased the product from Amazon, you should not be allowed to write a review. I agree with this. But I have to ask, am I the only one who's simply too lazy to go review the products I buy from Amazon? I almost never write reviews. It has to be a really amazing thing that has literally changed my life in some great way to get me to write a review (like for The Wet Brush! Holy crap guys do you know about this thing? It has literally saved me from having to chop all the curls off my daughters gorgeous red head!!)!! Or I have to be incredibly bored. Neither of those things happens very often.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Feb 17, 2016 6:23:24 GMT
I get annoying emails from sellers asking me for 5 star reviews. I am getting that from Etsy as well. I am capable of writing what I want about a product and how I feel. If a product is good I leave excellent feed back. If something is bad or useless I leave neutral feedback. I often read reviews of products I am buying and base my decision on the review. (Hot water pot, rice maker, miso soup strainer, markers, planners etc).
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Post by Scrapbrat on Feb 17, 2016 12:38:58 GMT
It has to do with if you get a discount on something in exchange for an honest review. Sellers need reviews. If they gave me a discount I feel like I owe them a review because that was part of the deal. And I gave honest reviews, not all got good reviews. Some did, some didn't. The thing is, when I got wind that there might be a problem I tried to get right on it to fix it, if there was something wrong. They never ever responded with any information at all until now. And that email isn't really information, more like a big F U. Way to suck Amazon when I was trying to do things right. I don't even know what manipulating customer reviews means. I gave honest feedback. What more are they asking for? I wondered how this all works, the discount for a review thing. I wonder if amazon is cracking down on it in general? Personally I find the practice annoying. Last night I was shopping for an item, and it seemed like 7-10 of the reviews were people who received a discount for their review. I ended up not purchasing and am trying to find an alternative. I wondered about this too, because I have seen a lot of these types of reviews lately. I assumed that they were permitted by Amazon as long as you disclosed that you received the product for free or at a discount in exchange for your review. But I agree, it looks like Amazon is now cracking down on this practice, probably because it has become so prevalent. I don't always discount a review that says they got the product free, but for sure I don't rely as heavily on these types of reviews. All in all, I think I'm glad that Amazon is trying to stop this practice.
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Post by teri on Feb 17, 2016 12:48:03 GMT
heck, I want some free / discounted stuff too
how the heck do people find this kinda stuff. I buy LOTS on amazon (I love them)
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Post by blondiec47 on Feb 17, 2016 12:52:30 GMT
Amazon, you're awesome. For many reasons. really??? I get that you don't like the OP, but this makes you just as bad as you think she is.
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Post by AN on Feb 17, 2016 13:13:51 GMT
Amazon, you're awesome. For many reasons. really??? I get that you don't like the OP, but this makes you just as bad as you think she is. #1. I'm pretty sure it doesn't. #2. I didn't say anything about the OP. Amazon IS awesome, for many reasons. Love my Prime, love Downton Abbey, love the selection. #3. Yeah, I do think it's awesome that Amazon is patrolling reviews. I'd rather they pull down a small percentage of "legit" ones in trying to improve the system. The fake/compensated reviews are a SERIOUS problem that has, in the last 6 months, made me much more wary of buying items -- even with (or sometimes especially with) lots of reviews. OP is a part of that problem, and I do think Amazon is awesome for stopping that.
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Post by scrapaddie on Feb 17, 2016 13:42:15 GMT
It has to do with if you get a discount on something in exchange for an honest review. Sellers need reviews. If they gave me a discount I feel like I owe them a review because that was part of the deal. And I gave honest reviews, not all got good reviews. Some did, some didn't. The thing is, when I got wind that there might be a problem I tried to get right on it to fix it, if there was something wrong. They never ever responded with any information at all until now. And that email isn't really information, more like a big F U. Way to suck Amazon when I was trying to do things right. I don't even know what manipulating customer reviews means. I gave honest feedback. What more are they asking for?
By your own words, you are being paid to review.... that in itself is dishonest.... I don't understand why you are fighting, spending do much time, when you are doing what they said...
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Post by blondiec47 on Feb 17, 2016 13:45:18 GMT
really??? I get that you don't like the OP, but this makes you just as bad as you think she is. #1. I'm pretty sure it doesn't. #2. I didn't say anything about the OP. Amazon IS awesome, for many reasons. Love my Prime, love Downton Abbey, love the selection. #3. Yeah, I do think it's awesome that Amazon is patrolling reviews. I'd rather they pull down a small percentage of "legit" ones in trying to improve the system. The fake/compensated reviews are a SERIOUS problem that has, in the last 6 months, made me much more wary of buying items -- even with (or sometimes especially with) lots of reviews. OP is a part of that problem, and I do think Amazon is awesome for stopping that. BS don't try and backpedel now, you don't like the OP and thought you were being clever (BTW you weren't). Amazon allows these types of reviews and I see them all the time. They pulled one of hers and she wants to know what rule she violated so she doesn't do it again, but because you don't like her you see something nefarious.
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Post by tduby1 on Feb 17, 2016 13:58:06 GMT
Hmmm, is this little setback going to affect your income? Maybe you're one of those people who posts reviews for money. I have a feeling this does have something to do with her mysterious income.
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Post by elaine on Feb 17, 2016 13:58:38 GMT
I really don't know how this all works (I never write reviews, although I do read them.), but does it mean that if you can't submit reviews any more, you will not be able to get discounts on products you buy? Is that why you are working so hard to get this changed?
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Post by tduby1 on Feb 17, 2016 14:03:05 GMT
really??? I get that you don't like the OP, but this makes you just as bad as you think she is. #1. I'm pretty sure it doesn't. #2. I didn't say anything about the OP. Amazon IS awesome, for many reasons. Love my Prime, love Downton Abbey, love the selection. #3. Yeah, I do think it's awesome that Amazon is patrolling reviews. I'd rather they pull down a small percentage of "legit" ones in trying to improve the system. The fake/compensated reviews are a SERIOUS problem that has, in the last 6 months, made me much more wary of buying items -- even with (or sometimes especially with) lots of reviews. OP is a part of that problem, and I do think Amazon is awesome for stopping that. I really agree with #3 and that was my thought she posted the "amazon you are awesome" post. I rely heavily on reviews, for everything (not just on Amazon, hotels etc) anything over $20 I read reviews for. Call me cheap, whatever, but I really hate spending money on something that doesn't work right. I've been known to pull out my phone in a store and look up reviews before buying something (vacuum for my hardwood floors just last weekend, in fact). So I appreciate Amazons efforts to make reviews accurate.
The OP can claim she is "honestly" reviewing till the cows come home but Amazon has no way of knowing that, so the best policy is obviously not to allow reviews made in return for something else (money, discounts, products, etc).
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Post by Drew on Feb 17, 2016 14:10:09 GMT
Doing a quick Google search you'll find a lot of chatter about this. Apparently, some companies offer $5 per 4 or 5 star review. If this is the OP's set up, I can see why she's so hot to have her review privileges reinstated.
What a great "job". I'm a fast typer, I could bang out gobs of reviews everyday, sittin in my jammies at home. If it wasn't so smarmy.
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Post by giatocj on Feb 17, 2016 14:21:02 GMT
I think unless you have purchased the product from Amazon, you should not be allowed to write a review. I agree with this. But I have to ask, am I the only one who's simply too lazy to go review the products I buy from Amazon? Unless they are hilarious (like the sugar free Gummy Bears and the Human Hamster Ball) the reviews are never even a blip on my radar when I'm ordering.
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 17, 2016 14:26:12 GMT
#1. I'm pretty sure it doesn't. #2. I didn't say anything about the OP. Amazon IS awesome, for many reasons. Love my Prime, love Downton Abbey, love the selection. #3. Yeah, I do think it's awesome that Amazon is patrolling reviews. I'd rather they pull down a small percentage of "legit" ones in trying to improve the system. The fake/compensated reviews are a SERIOUS problem that has, in the last 6 months, made me much more wary of buying items -- even with (or sometimes especially with) lots of reviews. OP is a part of that problem, and I do think Amazon is awesome for stopping that. I really agree with #3 and that was my thought she posted the "amazon you are awesome" post. I rely heavily on reviews, for everything (not just on Amazon, hotels etc) anything over $20 I read reviews for. Call me cheap, whatever, but I really hate spending money on something that doesn't work right. I've been known to pull out my phone in a store and look up reviews before buying something (vacuum for my hardwood floors just last weekend, in fact). So I appreciate Amazons efforts to make reviews accurate.
The OP can claim she is "honestly" reviewing till the cows come home but Amazon has no way of knowing that, so the best policy is obviously not to allow reviews made in return for something else (money, discounts, products, etc).
I'm the exact opposite. I don't trust online reviews at all. And this thread shows exactly why. I don't think it's cheap to look up reviews, I just don't think that they are the be all and end all. I've tended to go against online reviews and be very satisfied but then follow reviews and be completely disappointed. I'm more of a "find someone I actually know without a vested interest in the review and ask them" kind of person. And it's all because of operators like the OP, who seem to have no shame in scamming others with their "reviews" for money.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 17, 2016 14:27:15 GMT
Amazon, you're awesome. For many reasons. really??? I get that you don't like the OP, but this makes you just as bad as you think she is. Why? We can't disagree with the OP and agree with Amazon?
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Post by gar on Feb 17, 2016 14:49:41 GMT
BS don't try and backpedel now, you don't like the OP and thought you were being clever (BTW you weren't). I see explanation, not backpedaling and why would would you think she was trying to be clever?
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 17, 2016 15:00:22 GMT
BS don't try and backpedel now, you don't like the OP and thought you were being clever (BTW you weren't). I see explanation, not backpedaling and why would would you think she was trying to be clever? Interesting how this poster is displaying the exact same attitude towards AN as she claims AN is showing towards the OP. Think she's the pot or the kettle?
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Post by ukfan on Feb 17, 2016 15:15:34 GMT
I see explanation, not backpedaling and why would would you think she was trying to be clever? Interesting how this poster is displaying the exact same attitude towards AN as she claims AN is showing towards the OP. Think she's the pot or the kettle? Agreed. And I love Amazon, too. I even love our ECHO. And where I live, I get quite a bit same day - helps with trips to grocery.
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Post by compwalla on Feb 17, 2016 15:16:26 GMT
I don't like Amazon filling up with reviews from people who were paid to review the products. It's too easy to write them with a bias and I'm glad they are taking steps to curb the practice. I don't really care if a given paid reviewer sometimes writes bad reviews; what I want to see are reviews from people who've actually bought and tried the product.
I have written some reviews myself but mostly I leave feedback when Amazon asks me if I can answer a question about something I've already bought. The answered questions from verified buyers are sometimes more helpful than the reviews. They are a lot more reliable, in my opinion.
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Post by DEX on Feb 17, 2016 15:33:41 GMT
I bought a small flashlight for work. It came in this fancy silver metal case. There were no batteries included. I wrote a review that it was over packaged and they could lose the fancy packaging and put in batteries. Six months later I get an email from Amazon telling me they were removing my review because the packaging was the responsibility of the manufacturer and not the seller. I will never write another review for Amazon. If they can't handle honest feedback then why bother.
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Post by tduby1 on Feb 17, 2016 15:42:24 GMT
I really agree with #3 and that was my thought she posted the "amazon you are awesome" post. I rely heavily on reviews, for everything (not just on Amazon, hotels etc) anything over $20 I read reviews for. Call me cheap, whatever, but I really hate spending money on something that doesn't work right. I've been known to pull out my phone in a store and look up reviews before buying something (vacuum for my hardwood floors just last weekend, in fact). So I appreciate Amazons efforts to make reviews accurate.
The OP can claim she is "honestly" reviewing till the cows come home but Amazon has no way of knowing that, so the best policy is obviously not to allow reviews made in return for something else (money, discounts, products, etc).
I'm the exact opposite. I don't trust online reviews at all. And this thread shows exactly why. I don't think it's cheap to look up reviews, I just don't think that they are the be all and end all. I've tended to go against online reviews and be very satisfied but then follow reviews and be completely disappointed. I'm more of a "find someone I actually know without a vested interest in the review and ask them" kind of person. And it's all because of operators like the OP, who seem to have no shame in scamming others with their "reviews" for money. It certainly makes me re-evaluate my dependency on online reviews.
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Post by melanell on Feb 17, 2016 15:47:33 GMT
#1. I'm pretty sure it doesn't. #2. I didn't say anything about the OP. Amazon IS awesome, for many reasons. Love my Prime, love Downton Abbey, love the selection. #3. Yeah, I do think it's awesome that Amazon is patrolling reviews. I'd rather they pull down a small percentage of "legit" ones in trying to improve the system. The fake/compensated reviews are a SERIOUS problem that has, in the last 6 months, made me much more wary of buying items -- even with (or sometimes especially with) lots of reviews. OP is a part of that problem, and I do think Amazon is awesome for stopping that. I really agree with #3 and that was my thought she posted the "amazon you are awesome" post. I rely heavily on reviews, for everything (not just on Amazon, hotels etc) anything over $20 I read reviews for. Call me cheap, whatever, but I really hate spending money on something that doesn't work right. I've been known to pull out my phone in a store and look up reviews before buying something (vacuum for my hardwood floors just last weekend, in fact). So I appreciate Amazons efforts to make reviews accurate.
The OP can claim she is "honestly" reviewing till the cows come home but Amazon has no way of knowing that, so the best policy is obviously not to allow reviews made in return for something else (money, discounts, products, etc).
I agree with AN's point #3 and with tduby1. lately when I try to read reviews on Amazon I feel like I am having to hunt down the "real", aka unsolicited reviews from all of the ones left by people who work for the company, review for the company, are the company, etc. It's annoying. If Amazon is starting to finally do something about this, then yes, it is definitely a check in the "Pro" column of my mental Amazon Pro/Con list.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Feb 17, 2016 16:13:45 GMT
I bought a nail kit from Amazon and it came to me in a broken container, the instruments like clippers and things looked used. I contacted the seller and they said they would send me another one. That took about 3 months. The second one was better than the first but I did only leave neutral feedback.
We have had great success buying things from amazon.ca from Japan like our rice maker, hot water pot and pens for my planner. All that stuff was excellent. I bought a coffee grinder that came very highly rated and it sucked. That was my first hint that maybe the reviews might not be totally honest. I had no idea people got paid to review products. I don't know if they do on Amazon.ca even. I have never read a paid review before.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 17, 2016 16:15:23 GMT
I think unless you have purchased the product from Amazon, you should not be allowed to write a review. I agree with this. But I have to ask, am I the only one who's simply too lazy to go review the products I buy from Amazon? I rarely review the products we buy and have never reviewed the seller. I am always more interested in the negative reviews on something and find those have more good information that 100s of positive reviews.
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