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Post by countrypeagirl on Jul 28, 2014 4:19:44 GMT
Another woman in your kids lives? Now that my ex DH and ex BFF called it splitsville.. He has now moved on to another woman. From everything I have heard around town about her she seems like a very nice person. But I am going to be outright honest and say I absolutely hate it. I don't want another woman around my kids. I don't want her to get to experience the moments that I have to miss every other weekend because DH couldn't keep his you know what in his pants. I saw a picture tonight that she posted on FB of her with my ex DH and my 2 yr old son like they were some little happy family and I completely lost it. I cried for 3 hrs I know people are going to say I'm being selfish, etc. And that's ok. I know I am.. I'm admitting it here to you guys how upset I am by it. I just keep wondering how long it will take before I quit wanting him to hurt the way he hurt me. Or when I will see a pic like that and it doesn't throw me Into a tailspin. It's been 2 yrs and for the most part I am very happy. But sometimes the hurt and pain of it all just hits Like a tidal wave and I just get so angry I just want him to hurt.. Badly. I don't want some other woman in their lives.. They are the only reason I still keep getting up every morning. Yes I know it's selfish but it's just how I feel and just needed to vent to the peas..
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jul 28, 2014 4:24:11 GMT
If she isn't the reason why you and he split, I'd give her a chance. I can understand your feelings, but maybe she is trying to be decent to the children.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 4:25:24 GMT
What you are feeling is NOT SELFISH. You have ever right to feel that. No advice. But validation you are NOT selfish
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Post by Night Owl on Jul 28, 2014 4:27:32 GMT
I would feel the same way, sorry I am no help but wanted to say I feel bad for you.
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Post by shawallapea on Jul 28, 2014 4:29:49 GMT
Oh man ... I remember how hard that was for me. I was devastated to miss any precious moment with my kids. It gets better ... I promise ... especially if she is good to your kiddo. ((((Hugs))))
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 4:30:23 GMT
Aw man, I have no experience with that kind of situation, but I wanted to offer you a hug. Reading your post made my heart hurt for you. I think you're entitled to feel selfish and not want to share those moments with another woman.
I know your story from back when it first happened...you are much better off now. I am really happy for you and what you have achieved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 4:58:16 GMT
You are NOT selfish. These are perfectly normal feelings for you to have. BTDT when my ex and I divorced when our kids were 2 & 4.
Pained me like nothing else, HER having time with MY kids. Being there for things I couldn't be.
But, I had to face the fact that it was what it was and I couldn't stop it.
So, I had to ask myself, what's best for the kids? For them to have a bad relationship with this person or a good one? I decided - for the kids' sake - a good relationship was what I should hope for. I repeated the mantra that 'no child can have too many people love them' over and over. I had to remind myself that they were being being treated kindly when with her and that she wasn't being a shrew to them. If she'd been a shrew and cruel to my kids? That I could NOT have endured.
It became easier over time, and now - 26 years later - I can tell you that my kids appreciated that I refused to feel threatened by 'her'. They didn't need that added stress to an already stressful and confusing situation.
Warmest {{hugs}} as you navigate this heart-wrenching territory. It's a hard, hard road. Just always keep in mind what's the best thing for the kids given the situation. That will never steer you wrong.
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Post by countrypeagirl on Jul 28, 2014 5:06:28 GMT
I think what made it so much worse is the pic she posted was a homage to him for his bday with all these pics of him with the kids and some with her and him and our 2 yr old son. It was a big collage of pics..It made me so angry because he really is a sorry excuse for a father. He has yet to show up to any event our 2 oldest daughters have had.. And only sees them when the court has ordered him to see them. She took those pics and posted them on the internet with all this stuff about how she knows this year will be the best year of his life. It made me so angry. I gave him 20 yrs and 4 children and I just feel like all that time in everyone else's eyes meant nothing. My entire existence was 1 big lie. And then she feels she has the right to post pictures of my children on the internet. I can't help but feel like they are 3/4 mine and only 1/4 his because of the parenting choices he has made. She showed up a couple of weeks ago with a couple of bags of used clothing that she wanted to give to my older girls and gave it to my ex. He brought it over and dumped 3 huge garbage bags of her clothing in my living room. I wanted to kill him. I work my ass off to provide for my kids and I sure in the hell don't want her charity. Our son was 6 months old when he left and I have had to give him up every other weekend pretty much his entire life. I'm so incredibly bitter and angry about that. Everytime he pulls up in the driveway to pick them up I want to tell him how much I hate him for destroying our family. (I don't, I just kiss the kids and tell them how much I love them) but I just keep hoping at some point it is going to hurt less. Thanks everyone for the kind words and just allowing me to vent. It was just needed tonight.
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Post by cycworker on Jul 28, 2014 5:34:10 GMT
You aren`t selfish. You have every right to feel the way you do. I think it`s actually pretty awful that the courts allow exes to expose their kids to their new partners until the relationship is serious. It isn`t fair to let kids get attached, only to have them end up losing the new person when it doesn`t work out. Unless and until they`re serious enough that they`re starting to think about marriage, I think you should have every right to stop him from bringing your kids around his girlfriend (and to be fair, the same goes when you`re ready to date again).
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 28, 2014 5:54:58 GMT
That just seems wrong that it is allowed.
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Post by irisheyes on Jul 28, 2014 5:57:00 GMT
I'm sorry you are hurting. That is hard. With time it will not hurt as badly, but you still have a tiny one - and that is hard.
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Post by ingrid on Jul 28, 2014 6:06:00 GMT
I'm sorry you're hurting and understand your pain to some extent. I have a few thoughts and hope you can hear them knowing that I don't think you're being selfish at all and I know you've been through the wringer.
First and foremost, you're the mama. This lady could install an ice cream machine in the kitchen, drop off brand new LV bags for your girls, take them to Disneyland every weekend.... it's not going to change how much your children love and need you. You will always be number one to them and no one else can hold a candle to you.
Also, if she is truly trying to be a positive person in the lives of your children and actually cares about them, that's a really good thing. My son isn't so lucky with the woman his father has lived with for the past five or six years. She has two girls of her own and DS is treated like a second-class citizen. It's painful knowing he always feels insignificant and no one is trying to make things special for him when he's away from me because the focus is on making sure the two older girls are the priority in the household. I would be so comforted if his father had met someone who made an effort to make him feel important and cared for.
If she's as nice as people say she is and your ex is as big of a douche as I think he is, this is probably going to end sooner than later. As long as they're together, at least the chances of him showing up drunk at your house and pushing you around are slim. If he's happy in a relationship, hopefully it will give you a chance for some peace so you can move forward.
As far as the clothes, I think she's really trying to make an effort. I know you feel insulted, but I think she deserves a chance. She wasn't the skank your ex was cheating with. She's in a new relationship and is trying to make the best of things. I know how painful it is to see gushy posts about her wonderful new life with your ex after he robbed you and your children of your stability and left you to pick up the pieces. But you have to find a way to gently remind yourself that none of that was her fault. It's pretty crappy that she was introduced so quickly considering your ex's track record, but that's really on him.
Speaking of the "Squee! We are like SO happy!" posts, I think you're going to be in a healthier place if you can resist the temptation to peek in on either of their social media accounts. She's going to post her highlight reel and you're going to feel hurt or insecure or angry every time you look at it. It's just not worth it. If you absolutely feel the need to keep tabs on them, have a close and trusted person in your life do the creeping so they can let you know if they're posting about a meth lab in their basement or whatever else could be an issue that would actually impact your children. But looking at his or her Facebook is a bad idea.
I hope you start healing and feeling better soon. You've been dealt such a bad hand and deserve peace and happiness.
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Post by ptamom on Jul 28, 2014 6:07:58 GMT
Your not being selfish, you are in a sucky situation and have a good reason to be upset and sad.
That said, I hope that the new girlfriend will both be kind to your kids, and will last.
Why? Because it sounds like your Ex is the type that will always have a gf, rather than focus on being a great dad, and it would be better if there wasn't a revolving door situation, as long as the gf is good to your kids. Better to have one other woman in their lives (provided that she is kind to them), than a procession.
Big hugs to you.
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Post by countrypeagirl on Jul 28, 2014 7:07:52 GMT
You guys are absolutely right and I know it. Thank you. It really is making me feel a little better. I know She's trying because she cares and is a good person. And I know that's what is best for the kids. And it could be far worse. I find myself wanting to lash out at her when she has nothing to do with my anger. It's all anger towards him and the ex best friend. And it has nothing to do with her. So I just need to figure out how to release that anger so it doesn't make me a bitter, angry person.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Jul 28, 2014 7:16:14 GMT
I'm sorry you're hurting and understand your pain to some extent. I have a few thoughts and hope you can hear them knowing that I don't think you're being selfish at all and I know you've been through the wringer. First and foremost, you're the mama. This lady could install an ice cream machine in the kitchen, drop off brand new LV bags for your girls, take them to Disneyland every weekend.... it's not going to change how much your children love and need you. You will always be number one to them and no one else can hold a candle to you. Also, if she is truly trying to be a positive person in the lives of your children and actually cares about them, that's a really good thing. My son isn't so lucky with the woman his father has lived with for the past five or six years. She has two girls of her own and DS is treated like a second-class citizen. It's painful knowing he always feels insignificant and no one is trying to make things special for him when he's away from me because the focus is on making sure the two older girls are the priority in the household. I would be so comforted if his father had met someone who made an effort to make him feel important and cared for. If she's as nice as people say she is and your ex is as big of a douche as I think he is, this is probably going to end sooner than later. As long as they're together, at least the chances of him showing up drunk at your house and pushing you around are slim. If he's happy in a relationship, hopefully it will give you a chance for some peace so you can move forward. As far as the clothes, I think she's really trying to make an effort. I know you feel insulted, but I think she deserves a chance. She wasn't the skank your ex was cheating with. She's in a new relationship and is trying to make the best of things. I know how painful it is to see gushy posts about her wonderful new life with your ex after he robbed you and your children of your stability and left you to pick up the pieces. But you have to find a way to gently remind yourself that none of that was her fault. It's pretty crappy that she was introduced so quickly considering your ex's track record, but that's really on him. Speaking of the "Squee! We are like SO happy!" posts, I think you're going to be in a healthier place if you can resist the temptation to peek in on either of their social media accounts. She's going to post her highlight reel and you're going to feel hurt or insecure or angry every time you look at it. It's just not worth it. If you absolutely feel the need to keep tabs on them, have a close and trusted person in your life do the creeping so they can let you know if they're posting about a meth lab in their basement or whatever else could be an issue that would actually impact your children. But looking at his or her Facebook is a bad idea. I hope you start healing and feeling better soon. You've been dealt such a bad hand and deserve peace and happiness. Wise words indeed.
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Post by pelirroja on Jul 28, 2014 11:04:10 GMT
Please read and re-read Ingrid's wise words as often as you need to: she's a very smart lady and offers a good perspective.
Your ex isn't a good guy and the new gf will discover it soon enough. I know it's easy to be mad at her but soon she will find out what he's really like and it will probably be over. The clothes were a nice gesture and I wouldn't see it as a charity case but more of a situation that she knows how tough it is to make it as a single parent and she was genuinely trying to help: no insult intended.
Micki: you've come so far so please don't let this trip you up. No backsliding, OK? ((hugs)) Stop checking on him: no drivebys his house and no drivebys on the internet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 11:08:57 GMT
I have no experience with this, but I know that I would feel exactly the way you do.
When you say about all the time you gave him, remember that's on him, not on you.
Re the FB post and clothes--and her reputation of being a nice person is true, it just sounds as though she is young and a little bit thoughtless.
And I agree with whoever said that if she truly is nice person, things with your ex probably won't last long.
It's just a rotten situation all around. I'm sorry for your and your children's pain.
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Post by Miss Ang on Jul 28, 2014 11:16:23 GMT
What you are feeling is NOT SELFISH. You have ever right to feel that. No advice. But validation you are NOT selfish I'll just second this. I'm sorry and while I have never had to experience that sort of feeling, I can only imagine that it IS gut wrenching. I'm sorry. And I truly hope it gets easier with time.
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Post by pmm on Jul 28, 2014 12:10:15 GMT
I too was married for 20 years; my kids were 17 and 13 when I moved us out into our own home. I understand it's hard and it sucks. Your feelings are valid. It takes time to heal.
When I finally decided to join Facebook I blocked him. I was already getting the blow by blow of how wonderful dad was and all his great activities from my youngest. And I was pretty angry. But the biggest reason I blocked him was because I did not want him to know what I was doing in my own personal life. Sure my kids have probably told him what I'm up to but I wasn't about to give him an open window into my life any more. Blocking him won't change his behavior but at least you won't have it thrust in your newsfeed and making you upset. Your friends and his both know that the beautiful two year old in that picture is not hers.
As far as the clothes are concerned. Let the kids decide if they are their style and if they want to wear them. But, make it a point to tell the kids that it was kind of her to think of them. One of the hardest things for me is to acknowledge to the kids when their dad or his girlfriend have "gotten it right".
You've already gotten some great advice from others, I hope that mine helps in some small way too.
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Post by NanaKate on Jul 28, 2014 13:24:11 GMT
Be kind to yourself. This is a very difficult situation!
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Post by Sparki on Jul 28, 2014 14:12:23 GMT
This is a touchy subject for me. I am married to a divorced man. He had been separated for three years, and the divorce had been final for six months when we met. His ex wife HATES me. Demanded that I have no contact with either the grown children or the grandkids. As a result, DH has had much less contact with any of them. He is very sad about it, but isn't willing to ditch his relationship with me either. He said it's not me, they would hate anyone that he was in a relationship with. It breaks my heart that people are judging me and hating me without ever even bothering to get to know me. I had been married before, but my first husband was friends with his ex. We all got along fine. I had no idea that this hatred of the 'new woman' was the norm. I thought we would all get along, even if we weren't best friends. Someone here said that it feels like none of the time they were married counts. I've heard ex-wife say that, too. The thing is, I, the 'new woman' don't feel that your time didn't count. It all counts. It made him who he is today, good and bad. In our case, it's her hateful behavior since then that negates their time together, if that makes any sense. This is so hard for me to write, and think about. I've thought about leaving DH because of this. We have a great relationship and I love him dearly, but the hatred and anger from his ex and children is extremely hard to deal with. I KNOW that others deal with this. I see posts from time to time about difficulties with the ex. Why can't people accept that what happened is done and past? He's making his choices now, and those choices have no reflection on you. Those choices are all about him, not you. My DH's ex is an attractive, intelligent woman who could be having a wonderful life. Instead, she's devoted the past 10 years of her life to trying to make her ex (my DH) miserable. That's 10 years of her life that she can't get back. She still wears a wedding ring (that she bought herself) and tells people that they are still married.
This is such a hard thing for me to write about. I hope I made a little bit of sense. I feel really sad for everyone who has experienced loss of a spouse through divorce. I wish all of you happiness and most of all, peace. I wish peace for us ALL.
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Post by MissBianca on Jul 28, 2014 14:14:57 GMT
I think what made it so much worse is the pic she posted was a homage to him for his bday with all these pics of him with the kids and some with her and him and our 2 yr old son. It was a big collage of pics..It made me so angry because he really is a sorry excuse for a father. He has yet to show up to any event our 2 oldest daughters have had.. And only sees them when the court has ordered him to see them. She took those pics and posted them on the internet with all this stuff about how she knows this year will be the best year of his life. It made me so angry. I gave him 20 yrs and 4 children and I just feel like all that time in everyone else's eyes meant nothing. My entire existence was 1 big lie. And then she feels she has the right to post pictures of my children on the internet. I can't help but feel like they are 3/4 mine and only 1/4 his because of the parenting choices he has made. She showed up a couple of weeks ago with a couple of bags of used clothing that she wanted to give to my older girls and gave it to my ex. He brought it over and dumped 3 huge garbage bags of her clothing in my living room. I wanted to kill him. I work my ass off to provide for my kids and I sure in the hell don't want her charity. Our son was 6 months old when he left and I have had to give him up every other weekend pretty much his entire life. I'm so incredibly bitter and angry about that. Everytime he pulls up in the driveway to pick them up I want to tell him how much I hate him for destroying our family. (I don't, I just kiss the kids and tell them how much I love them) but I just keep hoping at some point it is going to hurt less. Thanks everyone for the kind words and just allowing me to vent. It was just needed tonight. Keep in mind too that she is getting his version of the truth. She may be giving him homage on his birthday because he has continued to spin this tale of how he misses his kids and never gets to see them, blah blah blah. And the clothes may be because he has spun a story about how the kids do without because he does the best he can to get money to you but he's not sure it gets to the kids. etc..... We know he's a story teller. We know he's a douche. But she might not. The fact that she is in the kids lives and is trying by bringing stuff to the girls could be a good thing. If it's honorable and comes from the right place, then that means she cares about your kids.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 28, 2014 14:30:39 GMT
I know how you're feeling. My ex's new wife is 25. She very much has a big sister vibe going with my 14 year old DD. I wish she were more motherly, but she isn't. I just have to focus on the fact that she is good to my kids. And she seems like a decent person. And really, that's what I would want for my kids is to have a decent person be their stepmom.
On the flip side, I am the stepmother to three little girls and their mother treats me awful. She says terrible things about me to the kids and no matter what I do for her kids, it's never good enough. A couple of weeks ago, I decided to ride along with my DH to drop off his kids and the 4 year old asked me why I was going since her mommy hates me. It's really tough to be on that end of things too.
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Post by scraphollie27 on Jul 28, 2014 14:32:32 GMT
I am not divorced but I can feel your pain through your post. Maybe the easiest way is to block the photos on FB and only hear about the experience through your children. That would give you the opportunity to relive their excitement with them and not to know about all the "adult baggage" that goes along with it.
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Post by Anne-Marie on Jul 28, 2014 14:38:41 GMT
First and foremost, you're the mama. This lady could install an ice cream machine in the kitchen, drop off brand new LV bags for your girls, take them to Disneyland every weekend.... it's not going to change how much your children love and need you. You will always be number one to them and no one else can hold a candle to you. I agree with ingrid's post. I quoted the above portion because I love it. SO very much. And I agree with it whole-heartedly. Read it and re-read it. Lather, rinse repeat. My divorce situation is somewhat different from yours but the final outcome is the same - we are divorced and he has been in a relationship for years. I will never forget what it felt like to see photos of him, his girlfriend and DD (9 now) looking like a happy little family together. DD was maybe 4 or so at the time and it was the first time in her life she had been a part of something that I wasn't involved in. I didn't want him or anything to do with him - but knowing my baby girl was being cared for by someone else was hard. I was so afraid of being replaced. The day that DD came home from a visit to her dad's with her nails done and he told me his girlfriend had taken her for her first mani/pedi felt like a knife in my heart. Telling you all of that so you know . . . I get it. One of the ways I was able to deal with it in the beginning was to make super fun plans for myself during the time DD would be with her dad. Stuff that I normally wouldn't get a chance to do if I had DD with me: a night out with girlfriends, a pedicure, a matinee, meet up with my mom and shop, stay home and work on a craft project, movie night at a friend's house after she got her kids in bed, a massage, date nights (when I got to the point I was ready for that). I'm not going to lie, in the beginning there were a few weekends that I stayed in my pajamas and felt sorry for myself and alternated between watching TV, eating bad food, sleeping and crying. Over time it has gotten so much easier. DD loves her daddy and she loves his girlfriend and I wouldn't change that if I could.The girlfriend and I get along really well and I appreciate the things she does for DD while she is with them. They have had some problems along the way and I have been able to see that when he is with the girlfriend and more content in his life we tend to get along much better and that benefits DD as well. I hope things get easier for you soon. I am sorry you are going through this, I know it is hard.
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Post by cropaholicnora on Jul 28, 2014 14:55:15 GMT
You are not selfish at all. Everything that you are feeling is normal. But as Ingrid said, nothing and no one can replace you in your kids hearts and minds. My ex and the woman he cheated on me with didn't survive. After that, he started dating a woman who was young but tried hard with my kids (who are teens). While it was still hard to see the "sunshine and happiness" crap posted all over the place with my kids, I worked hard to encourage them to give her a chance because I could see that she was doing her best to be involved with them in a healthy, caring manner. That relationship didn't survive either because my ex is a douchecanoe, but at least I was able to take comfort in the fact that my kids had a caring person acting as a buffer between their dad and his jerkish behaviors. MUCH easier said than done, but I hope that you can come to peace with this. {{hugs}}
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Post by redrulz on Jul 28, 2014 15:22:22 GMT
In my opinion, you are not being selfish at all! When you married and had kids you thought you were making a family. Forever. *He* is the one that destroyed that and you have to live with the pain. Just try to keep in mind that the important thing is your children. Grieve in private but in front of the kids be happy that she seems to be a good person.
*hugs* I know there were times I thought I would burst open with tears when my kids left for their dads house. I know how you feel and I wish I could tell you it gets better.
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Post by Pamelou on Jul 28, 2014 16:20:34 GMT
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 28, 2014 16:37:19 GMT
Your exdh is modeling for your children how to think with your penis. If she's kind to your children and truly thinks of them as her family then it creates a much better environment for the kids. They will never love her the way they love mommy. Just remember that. YOU are mommy. They won't love her more or rely on her more. When those scary monsters come out at 3am they want mommy not the woman who lives w/daddy at the moment.
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Jul 28, 2014 16:42:27 GMT
I do not think you are being selfish at all. I don't have any personal experience with your situation but, I am pretty sure that I would feel the exact same way.
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