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Post by freebird on Apr 6, 2016 15:57:35 GMT
We don't agree. We'll never agree, but regardless of "studies" and what people believe, the fact of the matter is, it's illegal in her state. Booze is legal, maybe she should have some wine with dinner instead. I doubt she'll do that because she can't get the high she wants. Studies, not "studies". And you seem to know a lot about a girl you've never met before. I could just as easily say that I doubt she will self-medicate with wine because she realises that alcohol has an addiction factor that marijuana doesn't. You're absolutely delusional if you think that you can't get get addicted to pot. I've had family experiences that prove otherwise.
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Post by anxiousmom on Apr 6, 2016 15:58:34 GMT
I have heard more stories about people like polargreen's cousin than I have about healthy, productive people using marijuana in a safe and responsible way. People who say they need the pot to help with anxiety,, stress, etc. Whether it is legit that they have significant anxiety or not, they are not going to school, not meeting expectations at home and in the community, and their relationships are suffering. So, is that "medicine" working? I would personally advocate for non-medicinal ways to treat anxiety before starting any medication, but unfortunately that is not where many in our society want to look first. Also, Xanax, Ativan and Valium are not the only anti-anxiety medications and not the first choice for medications that are taken regularly. But there are tons of stories out there about people who smoked pot and were successful, productive people...it just isn't talked about a lot because of the stigma attached. When I was in college, we all (my people) smoked pot fairly regularly. We all managed to hold part time jobs, go to school, graduate and go on to hold jobs, have families and in general be a functioning member of society. It does happen, but in my saying these things people form different opinions of me. I am your basic, run of the mill soccer mom that if you met me today you would have no clue about my past. I am not ashamed of who I was, and I don't smoke now (or in many many years) but the reality is that most of my group is exactly the same way. A couple of lawyers, successful businesspeople, teachers, a lobbiest, etc. would belie the idea that people can't do both. What do I personally want for my own children who are in that age range? I would prefer that they smoke pot to drink. I imagine that both of mine have at the very least tried it, and where I would be concerned is if it started impacted their day to day life.
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Post by Merge on Apr 6, 2016 16:01:52 GMT
Here's why pharmaceuticals and not pot, if possible - pharmaceuticals are controlled, meaning that your doctor prescribes how many you can have and requires regular appointments to check for harmful side effects. If you overuse the pills, you can't just go and get more before your prescription is due for refill. If you're buying pot illegally from a dealer, however, he doesn't care how many times a day you light up and doesn't give a shit if the side effect is that you flunk out of college. I am actually pro-legalization and don't care if people light up recreationally. I would not, however, support my child choosing to self-medicate with pot for an actual medical condition rather than seeking a doctor's oversight and care. I wouldn't want my kids to self-medicate with alcohol or caffeine or cocaine anything else, either. OP, she's an adult and not your child, so not much you can do. As a caring family member, if you do start to notice negative side effects, you might talk with her about your concerns. wait...what? if you run out of xanax before your RX is up - it's pretty damn easy to buy them - you buy them just as illegally as you would non-prescribed pot. that part of your post doesn't even make sense i know countless people that are awfully dependent on their xannies - gina If you're buying illegally and using more than your doctor prescribes, then that's just as bad. I should have said pharmaceuticals are better/safer when taken as prescribed and with a doctor's oversight.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 6, 2016 16:06:00 GMT
Studies, not "studies". And you seem to know a lot about a girl you've never met before. I could just as easily say that I doubt she will self-medicate with wine because she realises that alcohol has an addiction factor that marijuana doesn't. You're absolutely delusional if you think that you can't get get addicted to pot. I've had family experiences that prove otherwise. Cessation of prolonged marijuana use can lead to irritability, sleep issues, mood issues and restlessness. You really want to compare that to withdrawal from alcohol?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 16:14:11 GMT
If the niece has anxiety "issues" she needs to see a doctor, not self medicate. You wouldn't suggest she self medicate with alcohol so why pot? However, she's not your kid and there's nothing you can do about HER actions. I'd let her know I don't approve though and I would tell her that if I find out she's doing it before work, etc that I'd turn her in. Why put patients at risk because she has "anxiety" that needs treated? LOTS of people, including doctors (I can think of 3 off the top of my head that my friends have personally told me about), recommend self-medicating with alcohol to take the edge off when someone has low grade anxiety/stress and doesn't have risk factors for addiction. Those 3 friends have all been told they should have a nightly glass of wine - one of the friends was in the 3rd trimester of pregnancy when her OB told her that. I'm SUCH a fan of prescription medications. I'm so glad they exist. But for a lot of things, there is solid proof that marijuana is as or more effective and extremely low risk for addiction. There just isn't a way for big companies to monetize it right now (it's coming though). Look up the stats on the effectiveness of anti-depressants on mild to moderate depression - they're a joke when you look at the research. And they have serious risks for many people. I've never smoked pot in my life, but I just don't get the stigma. It isn't the gateway drug that "we" used to think it was (for people not prone to addiction, and if you're prone to addiction prescription pills can be a problem too), it's low risk, and it is proven effective and safe for many treatments. I think in 20 years, this fight over marijuana - particularly medical marijuana - will be look like abolition does to us now, but maybe even worse because it was keeping people from an effective medical treatment, not just enjoying a drink. If a doctor is recommending something, it's not truly self-medicating even though alcohol isn't by prescription. That said, I'd have nothing more to do ever with any piece of shit doctor that told patients to start drinking to relieve stress. Jesus.
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Post by peano on Apr 6, 2016 16:20:12 GMT
My thoughts are why does anyone just take a medication, any medication, for anxiety and not accompany it with psychotherapy? It is not normal or healthy to just be on anxiety meds forever and not address the underlying causes. Damn, we have become such a drug-dependent culture.
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Post by freebird on Apr 6, 2016 16:22:07 GMT
You're absolutely delusional if you think that you can't get get addicted to pot. I've had family experiences that prove otherwise. Cessation of prolonged marijuana use can lead to irritability, sleep issues, mood issues and restlessness. You really want to compare that to withdrawal from alcohol?
Just because you deem one withdraw worst than the other doesn't mean that they're not both withdraw
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 6, 2016 16:30:07 GMT
Cessation of prolonged marijuana use can lead to irritability, sleep issues, mood issues and restlessness. You really want to compare that to withdrawal from alcohol?
Just because you deem one withdraw worst than the other doesn't mean that they're not both withdraw I had withdrawal from the internet when I spent a week off-grid last year. Irritable, mood issues, restlessness. It was horrible.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 6, 2016 16:32:16 GMT
^^^
maybe it was horrible, but using the internet's not illegal where you live. Is it? Why do people in this thread persist in making this a philosophical argument and ignoring the fact that marijuana is illegal where the OP's niece lives?!?
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 6, 2016 16:35:30 GMT
^^^ maybe it was horrible, but using the internet's not illegal where you live. Is it? Why do people in this thread persist in making this a philosophical argument and ignoring the fact that marijuana is illegal where the OP's niece lives?!? We're discussing addiction, not legality.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 6, 2016 16:36:10 GMT
I know it is abused by a lot of people. It definitely can be an excuse and people here laughed all the time about their "cards." Now it is legal, so it doesn't really matter anymore. I would hope that she would talk to a professional to see what the best care for her is. If pot is illegal in your state, that isn't what she should be doing. If she can get a doctor's approval, then fine.
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Post by AN on Apr 6, 2016 16:38:54 GMT
^^^ maybe it was horrible, but using the internet's not illegal where you live. Is it? Why do people in this thread persist in making this a philosophical argument and ignoring the fact that marijuana is illegal where the OP's niece lives?!? Because the law isn't the only arbiter of if I think something is okay and/or a reasonable risk even with considering that it's illegal. For me, the law is a factor but not the final decision.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 6, 2016 16:39:30 GMT
I have heard more stories about people like polargreen's cousin than I have about healthy, productive people using marijuana in a safe and responsible way. People who say they need the pot to help with anxiety,, stress, etc. Whether it is legit that they have significant anxiety or not, they are not going to school, not meeting expectations at home and in the community, and their relationships are suffering. So, is that "medicine" working? I would personally advocate for non-medicinal ways to treat anxiety before starting any medication, but unfortunately that is not where many in our society want to look first. Also, Xanax, Ativan and Valium are not the only anti-anxiety medications and not the first choice for medications that are taken regularly. But there are tons of stories out there about people who smoked pot and were successful, productive people...it just isn't talked about a lot because of the stigma attached. When I was in college, we all (my people) smoked pot fairly regularly. We all managed to hold part time jobs, go to school, graduate and go on to hold jobs, have families and in general be a functioning member of society. It does happen, but in my saying these things people form different opinions of me. I am your basic, run of the mill soccer mom that if you met me today you would have no clue about my past. I am not ashamed of who I was, and I don't smoke now (or in many many years) but the reality is that most of my group is exactly the same way. A couple of lawyers, successful businesspeople, teachers, a lobbiest, etc. would belie the idea that people can't do both. What do I personally want for my own children who are in that age range? I would prefer that they smoke pot to drink. I imagine that both of mine have at the very least tried it, and where I would be concerned is if it started impacted their day to day life. I think we might be close in age. Hasn't pot changed quite a bit since you were in college? I believe it is more potent now. I'm no expert, but I don't think it is quite the same. I have some great friends who smoked a lot of it back in college (some still do-legal here). They say it is stronger.
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Post by moveablefeast on Apr 6, 2016 16:39:57 GMT
LOTS of people, including doctors (I can think of 3 off the top of my head that my friends have personally told me about), recommend self-medicating with alcohol to take the edge off when someone has low grade anxiety/stress and doesn't have risk factors for addiction. Those 3 friends have all been told they should have a nightly glass of wine - one of the friends was in the 3rd trimester of pregnancy when her OB told her that. I'm SUCH a fan of prescription medications. I'm so glad they exist. But for a lot of things, there is solid proof that marijuana is as or more effective and extremely low risk for addiction. There just isn't a way for big companies to monetize it right now (it's coming though). Look up the stats on the effectiveness of anti-depressants on mild to moderate depression - they're a joke when you look at the research. And they have serious risks for many people. I've never smoked pot in my life, but I just don't get the stigma. It isn't the gateway drug that "we" used to think it was (for people not prone to addiction, and if you're prone to addiction prescription pills can be a problem too), it's low risk, and it is proven effective and safe for many treatments. I think in 20 years, this fight over marijuana - particularly medical marijuana - will be look like abolition does to us now, but maybe even worse because it was keeping people from an effective medical treatment, not just enjoying a drink. If a doctor is recommending something, it's not truly self-medicating even though alcohol isn't by prescription. That said, I'd have nothing more to do ever with any piece of shit doctor that told patients to start drinking to relieve stress. Jesus. Yeah, I'm not good with that either. The problem with drinking to deal with your feelings - or for that matter to smoke pot to deal with your feelings - is that the line between adaptive and maladaptive is very thin. I have a glass of wine or other alcoholic beverage many evenings. Scotch on the patio after a long hard day? Yes. Great! The problem comes in when that is my medicine for stress and anxiety. What do I do in that case when my anxiety kicks in at 10am or is associated with work? I can't go drink a scotch or smoke a blunt. If that is my primary solution, it rapidly becomes maladaptive. If I have other solutions such as behavioral adaptations or medication that does not affect my immediate ability to function, then I have a better toolkit than scotch or weed provides. I like weed (smoked in college and at other times but don't at this time) and if it was legal here I would smoke recreationally. But I can't smoke and go to work, I can't drink and go to work, I need a better solution for my issues than this. That is why I am uncertain about the idea of using marijuana or alcohol as anxiety medication on a regular basis, as opposed to a lifestyle component that promotes relaxation and peace in a person's life.
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Post by scrapaddie on Apr 6, 2016 16:40:29 GMT
I know too many young people with college degrees who have settled for mediocre, low paying jobs because 1. They lost a job after a urine test 2. they can't get a job because of the urine test 3. they don't really care....
they do live in a state where it is legal, but that doesn't mean that an employer has to hire people who use.
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Post by flute4peace on Apr 6, 2016 16:41:20 GMT
You're her aunt? Unless she lives in your house, it's none of your business. She's an adult and not your responsibility. She's free to make her own decisions, even if they're bad ones. I know this is a hot-button issue for me and that my opinions are in the minority, but this is just so foreign to me that it gets me every time. Why WOULDN'T a family member care for and worry about a loved one if they felt damaging choices were being made? I don't have any first-hand experience with drugs/alcohol/addiction, but I thought that's what the families were supposed to do. Isn't that what an intervention is? How many recovering addicts would be recovering if their families hadn't intervened?
I don't care if I'm 20 years old, 40 years old, 60 or 80 - if I were starting down a dangerous path I sure as heck hope my family would care enough to intervene. We're close, we care about each other's lives and we look out for each other. I can't imagine anything else (unless, of course, there were other underlying issues).
I stopped and replied to this particular comment (and it's nothing personal), so the thread may have taken a completely different turn, but I took the O/P's post as asking for information as to what seems to be the "norm", as she's concerned about her niece and was trying to find out more information.
But I also know I'm naïve and live in a bubble so...
To the O/P, if that's the environment in my area, I'm not aware of it. I would be concerned.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Apr 6, 2016 16:41:45 GMT
The OP has already said it's not a 'bullshit excuse' - the girl needs medication for anxiety. And marijuana is often prescribed for anxiety. So why the issue with marijuana and not something like Xanax, Valium, or Ativan - drugs that are also prescribed for anxiety with much worse side-effects? Sorry I didn't mean to say her nieces excuse was bullshit. My cousins was. It was the excuse she gave my Aunt. And nothing my cousin takes, like the Xanax, is prescribed from a doctor. She buys it from other people, or I should say her BF buys it as she doesn't work.
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Post by AN on Apr 6, 2016 16:43:36 GMT
I think we might be close in age. Hasn't pot changed quite a bit since you were in college? I believe it is more potent now. I'm no expert, but I don't think it is quite the same. I have some great friends who smoked a lot of it back in college (some still do-legal here). They say it is stronger. One of my friend's parents (who are big pot users and were headed on vacation to Colorado, hence the conversation) was saying that the stuff they can buy legally is WAY more potent than the stuff they can buy on the street in their state where only medical is legal. The dad is working on getting his medical card (does have legit need, in addition to being a pot user), but they live in a pretty rural area and one healthcare network dominates the area. That network has disallowed their physicians from prescribing medical MJ, even though it is legal in the state. He is moving to a new practice in the next month to get established so he can eventually get legal medical marijuana for his legitimate major back and pain issues (truly legit, I've known him several years and through a lot of major surgeries). Imagine a healthcare network saying their doctors couldn't provide Oxy, even though it's legal in the state. This is an interesting time for the legalization of marijuana and it will also be interesting to look back on it in a couple of decades, just like we do a lot of other social issues. I do consider the prohibition more of a social issue than a medical or scientific one.
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Post by chlerbie on Apr 6, 2016 16:44:15 GMT
I know MANY people who smoke who are very productive members of society. I have a good friend who was on MANY different prescription medications for anxiety and other issues and she quit when she was trying to get pregnant and only smoked and found out that many of her other health issues went away. And I have many other friends who say it helps greatly with their anxiety.
For me, it has the opposite effect, so I'm not one at all. But I see it working well with people that I know.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Apr 6, 2016 16:47:43 GMT
You're her aunt? Unless she lives in your house, it's none of your business. She's an adult and not your responsibility. She's free to make her own decisions, even if they're bad ones. I know this is a hot-button issue for me and that my opinions are in the minority, but this is just so foreign to me that it gets me every time. Why WOULDN'T a family member care for and worry about a loved one if they felt damaging choices were being made? I don't have any first-hand experience with drugs/alcohol/addiction, but I thought that's what the families were supposed to do. Isn't that what an intervention is? How many recovering addicts would be recovering if their families hadn't intervened?
I don't care if I'm 20 years old, 40 years old, 60 or 80 - if I were starting down a dangerous path I sure as heck hope my family would care enough to intervene. We're close, we care about each other's lives and we look out for each other. I can't imagine anything else (unless, of course, there were other underlying issues).
I stopped and replied to this particular comment (and it's nothing personal), so the thread may have taken a completely different turn, but I took the O/P's post as asking for information as to what seems to be the "norm", as she's concerned about her niece and was trying to find out more information.
But I also know I'm naïve and live in a bubble so...
To the O/P, if that's the environment in my area, I'm not aware of it. I would be concerned.
I'm on my phone so I can't put an emoji. But just picture the hand clapping little guy here!
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Post by anxiousmom on Apr 6, 2016 16:49:17 GMT
But there are tons of stories out there about people who smoked pot and were successful, productive people...it just isn't talked about a lot because of the stigma attached. When I was in college, we all (my people) smoked pot fairly regularly. We all managed to hold part time jobs, go to school, graduate and go on to hold jobs, have families and in general be a functioning member of society. It does happen, but in my saying these things people form different opinions of me. I am your basic, run of the mill soccer mom that if you met me today you would have no clue about my past. I am not ashamed of who I was, and I don't smoke now (or in many many years) but the reality is that most of my group is exactly the same way. A couple of lawyers, successful businesspeople, teachers, a lobbiest, etc. would belie the idea that people can't do both. What do I personally want for my own children who are in that age range? I would prefer that they smoke pot to drink. I imagine that both of mine have at the very least tried it, and where I would be concerned is if it started impacted their day to day life. I think we might be close in age. Hasn't pot changed quite a bit since you were in college? I believe it is more potent now. I'm no expert, but I don't think it is quite the same. I have some great friends who smoked a lot of it back in college (some still do-legal here). They say it is stronger. I have also heard that it is more potent. But...I am not sure that really means anything. Stronger, maybe, but more...addictive? I don't hear that. Just maybe a 'it takes less to get you there.' (This is assuming that it isn't laced with something else more harmful such as the big scare in my day that it would have PCP in it.)
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Post by spitfiregirl on Apr 6, 2016 16:49:58 GMT
depends on if she's going to work stoned. I would not want a stoned cna. She could lose her job. If she smokes after work, i wouldn't care.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 6, 2016 16:51:20 GMT
I think we might be close in age. Hasn't pot changed quite a bit since you were in college? I believe it is more potent now. I'm no expert, but I don't think it is quite the same. I have some great friends who smoked a lot of it back in college (some still do-legal here). They say it is stronger. One of my friend's parents (who are big pot users and were headed on vacation to Colorado, hence the conversation) was saying that the stuff they can buy legally is WAY more potent than the stuff they can buy on the street in their state where only medical is legal. The dad is working on getting his medical card (does have legit need, in addition to being a pot user), but they live in a pretty rural area and one healthcare network dominates the area. That network has disallowed their physicians from prescribing medical MJ, even though it is legal in the state. He is moving to a new practice in the next month to get established so he can eventually get legal medical marijuana for his legitimate major back and pain issues (truly legit, I've known him several years and through a lot of major surgeries). Imagine a healthcare network saying their doctors couldn't provide Oxy, even though it's legal in the state. This is an interesting time for the legalization of marijuana and it will also be interesting to look back on it in a couple of decades, just like we do a lot of other social issues. I do consider the prohibition more of a social issue than a medical or scientific one. I can see that there are definitely pros and cons on the issue so states should look at it carefully. Many people in the state thought it would be good for collecting taxes, but have seen other downfalls and costs to legalizing it. I know the increase of housing costs in Denver is a major problem since the influx of smokers arrived. We have articles in our paper all of the time.
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Post by AN on Apr 6, 2016 16:54:15 GMT
I can see that there are definitely pros and cons on the issue so states should look at it carefully. Many people in the state thought it would be good for collecting taxes, but have seen other downfalls and costs to legalizing it. I know the increase of housing costs in Denver is a major problem since the influx of smokers arrived. We have articles in our paper all of the time. That's not specific to it being the marijuana industry, though. It would be the same if Amazon moved their headquarters to Denver, - big influx of people, housing costs go up. It's a trade-off of economic development of any sort, not specific to marijuana. Toyota is moving their HQ to the Dallas area and it is expected to increase housing costs due to the influx of buyers. It's still a great thing for the area as a whole. Yay progress!
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 6, 2016 16:59:26 GMT
I have a friend who is a CNA (college kid) who recently got a job as a CNA working on the weekends. In Colorado Springs, she could not have pot or nicotine in her drug test result.
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Post by flute4peace on Apr 6, 2016 16:59:56 GMT
^^^ maybe it was horrible, but using the internet's not illegal where you live. Is it? Why do people in this thread persist in making this a philosophical argument and ignoring the fact that marijuana is illegal where the OP's niece lives?!? We're discussing addiction, not legality. Actually, the O/P's questions were if it was common among 20 yr olds, and if we would be concerned if our family member was doing it.
Maybe it's just me, but both addiction and legality would be huge concerns if my family member was doing it. Especially if the girl had already flunked out of school because of it.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 6, 2016 17:01:55 GMT
I can see that there are definitely pros and cons on the issue so states should look at it carefully. Many people in the state thought it would be good for collecting taxes, but have seen other downfalls and costs to legalizing it. I know the increase of housing costs in Denver is a major problem since the influx of smokers arrived. We have articles in our paper all of the time. That's not specific to it being the marijuana industry, though. It would be the same if Amazon moved their headquarters to Denver, - big influx of people, housing costs go up. It's a trade-off of economic development of any sort, not specific to marijuana. Toyota is moving their HQ to the Dallas area and it is expected to increase housing costs due to the influx of buyers. It's still a great thing for the area as a whole. Yay progress! I'm guessing more people moved here to smoke pot legally than moved to Dallas for Toyota. According to the paper it is a big problem. I do see what you are saying, but when your state is one of the few that have made it legal, it creates a different set of issues that other states don't have.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 6, 2016 17:04:14 GMT
That's not specific to it being the marijuana industry, though. It would be the same if Amazon moved their headquarters to Denver, - big influx of people, housing costs go up. It's a trade-off of economic development of any sort, not specific to marijuana. Toyota is moving their HQ to the Dallas area and it is expected to increase housing costs due to the influx of buyers. It's still a great thing for the area as a whole. Yay progress! I'm guessing more people moved here to smoke pot legally than moved to Dallas for Toyota. According to the paper it is a big problem. I do see what you are saying, but when your state is one of the few that have made it legal, it creates a different set of issues that other states don't have. On the plus side, tourism is up. The taxi drivers say many of their clients ask to be driven to a dispensary before going to their hotel.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 6, 2016 17:07:55 GMT
^^^ maybe it was horrible, but using the internet's not illegal where you live. Is it? Why do people in this thread persist in making this a philosophical argument and ignoring the fact that marijuana is illegal where the OP's niece lives?!? We're discussing addiction, not legality.Nope- that wasn't specified in the original post; the thread turned INTO that, but that's not how the original post read, at all. Here is the actual question that was posed: "Would you be concerned if your 20 yo niece smoked pot daily?" Nowhere did it say she was only asking about the issue of whether it's addictive or not.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 17:16:23 GMT
I know a 62 year old male and his wife of 30 years who have been daily pot smokers since he was probably teenager- he is a very successful business owner - Hasn't strayed off into heroin or meth yet. He is an anxious person and it calms him -
I also know several kids in their 30's that smoke often - none have ever touched hard drugs and they are very successful at their jobs as well.
My view on smoking pot has changed a lot over the years - I'm almost 60 and do not have any desire to smoke pot, nor do i drink or do I take RX drugs. If it came down to taking Rx or smoking pot I would chose pot. I think doctors throw RX way more often than they should - Rx drugs are way more harmful and addicting to pot - look at the side effects of 99.999% of RX drugs.
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