The Great Carpezio
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jun 6, 2016 0:46:25 GMT
You do understand, don't you, that if you divorced him he'd still have influence over your children. He will have visitation, vacations and possibly equal time as you do. I do understand that. I also assume you know we are talking hypothetically. And hypothetically, I have more resources than he does, and I'd ensure they were with me most of the time. However, we've been married for twenty years and he shows no signs of turning into a complete bigoted and opinionated asshole, so I think we're good.
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Nink
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Post by Nink on Jun 6, 2016 0:47:53 GMT
You do understand, don't you, that if you divorced him he'd still have influence over your children. He will have visitation, vacations and possibly equal time as you do. Maybe she'll luck out and get a Hispanic judge born in Indiana in divorce court. Just let him know DH voted for Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 1:02:37 GMT
What I find interesting is according to some, voting for Trump would mean you have the same values as he does, but Hillary, with all of her issues and "values" (breaking laws, covering up and lying about it all, being under federal investigation for public corruption, putting national security and lives at risk, having a philandering if not sexually abusive husband) voting for HER does not speak to YOUR values?
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 2:26:42 GMT
What I find interesting is according to some, voting for Trump would mean you have the same values as he does, but Hillary, with all of her issues and "values" (breaking laws, covering up and lying about it all, being under federal investigation for public corruption, putting national security and lives at risk, having a philandering if not sexually abusive husband) voting for HER does not speak to YOUR values? Why do you assume that if you aren't voting for Trump that you are voting for Hilary? I can understand my DH not wanting to vote for Hilary but that doesn't mean he has to vote for Trump. I'm exploring other options than those two and I would expect him to do the same. Voting for Trump as a vote against Hilary is causing me to think how I feel about living with someone who thinks women are better off on their knees.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 2:33:49 GMT
What I find interesting is according to some, voting for Trump would mean you have the same values as he does, but Hillary, with all of her issues and "values" (breaking laws, covering up and lying about it all, being under federal investigation for public corruption, putting national security and lives at risk, having a philandering if not sexually abusive husband) voting for HER does not speak to YOUR values? Why do you assume that if you aren't voting for Trump that you are voting for Hilary? I can understand my DH not wanting to vote for Hilary but that doesn't mean he has to vote for Trump. I'm exploring other options than those two and I would expect him to do the same. Voting for Trump as a vote against Hilary is causing me to think how I feel about living with someone who thinks women are better off on their knees. I was speaking to the ones that are, and plenty here have said they are.
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The Great Carpezio
Pearl Clutcher
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jun 6, 2016 3:20:10 GMT
What I find interesting is according to some, voting for Trump would mean you have the same values as he does, but Hillary, with all of her issues and "values" (breaking laws, covering up and lying about it all, being under federal investigation for public corruption, putting national security and lives at risk, having a philandering if not sexually abusive husband) voting for HER does not speak to YOUR values? I have a feeling no matter what I say, this will probably be misconstrued. However, I'll give it a try. (And please mark that I feel there's is a difference between begrudgingly voting for Trump and actively promoting his agenda) The personal values and ethics of a politician do concern me. Both candidates to me, seem to have suspect background, and depending on your leanings, one likely seems worse than the other, but both have questionable ethics. That said, for me, background is really only a certain percentage of what makes or breaks an election for me. Especially in this election. The plan for our country is what matters to me, and the ability to rule appropriately for a diverse country and interconnected world is imperative. Trump has been overtly and purposely offensive towards a large portion of our country. He says bigoted, xenophobic, sexist, racist things and makes continuous juvenile ad hominem attacks. He is antagonistic towards other countries and is so condescending towards the American public that he refuses to elaborate on his pompous and grandiose plans. These are things he is doing now. Not twenty years ago or four years ago or hypothetically or inferred by his enemies. These are things he is doing weekly. So, yes, I am concerned by those who are voting for him. I am saddened by those who are willingly doing so. I am appalled by those who actively promote and believe what he says. This is my perspective on how "I" see the difference between Clinton and Trump. I expect no one else to agree with me. Just sharing since you asked
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 3:48:29 GMT
What I find interesting is according to some, voting for Trump would mean you have the same values as he does, but Hillary, with all of her issues and "values" (breaking laws, covering up and lying about it all, being under federal investigation for public corruption, putting national security and lives at risk, having a philandering if not sexually abusive husband) voting for HER does not speak to YOUR values? I have a feeling no matter what I say, this will probably be misconstrued. However, I'll give it a try. (And please mark that I feel there's is a difference between begrudgingly voting for Trump and actively promoting his agenda) The personal values and ethics of a politician do concern me. Both candidates to me, seem to have suspect background, and depending on your leanings, one likely seems worse than the other, but both have questionable ethics. That said, for me, background is really only a certain percentage of what makes or breaks an election for me. Especially in this election. The plan for our country is what matters to me, and the ability to rule appropriately for a diverse country and interconnected world is imperative. Trump has been overtly and purposely offensive towards a large portion of our country. He says bigoted, xenophobic, sexist, racist things and makes continuous juvenile ad hominem attacks. He is antagonistic towards other countries and is so condescending towards the American public that he refuses to elaborate on his pompous and grandiose plans. These are things he is doing now. Not twenty years ago or four years ago or hypothetically or inferred by his enemies. These are things he is doing weekly. So, yes, I am concerned by those who are voting for him. I am saddened by those who are willingly doing so. I am appalled by those who actively promote and believe what he says. This is my perspective on how "I" see the difference between Clinton and Trump. I expect no one else to agree with me. Just sharing since you asked Thank you for your answer and thank you for keeping it civil.
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 4:36:05 GMT
What I find interesting is according to some, voting for Trump would mean you have the same values as he does, but Hillary, with all of her issues and "values" (breaking laws, covering up and lying about it all, being under federal investigation for public corruption, putting national security and lives at risk, having a philandering if not sexually abusive husband) voting for HER does not speak to YOUR values? I have a feeling no matter what I say, this will probably be misconstrued. However, I'll give it a try. (And please mark that I feel there's is a difference between begrudgingly voting for Trump and actively promoting his agenda) The personal values and ethics of a politician do concern me. Both candidates to me, seem to have suspect background, and depending on your leanings, one likely seems worse than the other, but both have questionable ethics. That said, for me, background is really only a certain percentage of what makes or breaks an election for me. Especially in this election. The plan for our country is what matters to me, and the ability to rule appropriately for a diverse country and interconnected world is imperative. Trump has been overtly and purposely offensive towards a large portion of our country. He says bigoted, xenophobic, sexist, racist things and makes continuous juvenile ad hominem attacks. He is antagonistic towards other countries and is so condescending towards the American public that he refuses to elaborate on his pompous and grandiose plans. These are things he is doing now. Not twenty years ago or four years ago or hypothetically or inferred by his enemies. These are things he is doing weekly. So, yes, I am concerned by those who are voting for him. I am saddened by those who are willingly doing so. I am appalled by those who actively promote and believe what he says. This is my perspective on how "I" see the difference between Clinton and Trump. I expect no one else to agree with me. Just sharing since you asked I agree with everything you said. I'm not a fan of Hilary, but I think she is "less dangerous " than Trump for the reasons you said. I'm still hoping for a viable third party.
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likescarrots
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Aug 16, 2014 17:52:53 GMT
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Post by likescarrots on Jun 6, 2016 16:06:12 GMT
You do understand, don't you, that if you divorced him he'd still have influence over your children. He will have visitation, vacations and possibly equal time as you do. So she should just stay married to him and keep her mouth shut like a good little wife? At least her kids would know with certainty that she does not support those values.
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~Lauren~
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Jun 26, 2014 3:33:18 GMT
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 6, 2016 16:58:18 GMT
There is nothing in what I said that gives rise to your response. So you're clearly misreading what I wrote.
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