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Post by ilikepink on Jun 9, 2016 17:25:27 GMT
The whole story of the Stanford rape has me outraged; sometimes things annoy me, this has me %&*(#*#* pissed off. And now, I'm even more #*%&% #*%& *%((# pissed off: bit.ly/1Xclx7F(I'm not that savvy to get the link thing right - and annoyed as well) go fund me? Are you #&% kidding me? ?? For your "perfect" son and his "20 minutes" what about that poor girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Breathing again.
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Post by snappinsami on Jun 9, 2016 17:26:59 GMT
The whole thing is disgusting.
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Post by julieb on Jun 9, 2016 17:28:14 GMT
I can't believe someone would think that was okay.
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Post by gar on Jun 9, 2016 17:29:10 GMT
His life is ruined anyway. There are so many things going round FB about him - in the end he's getting what he deserves albeit not in the correct way.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 9, 2016 17:36:59 GMT
Found it, in case anyone other than me was curious. The facebook page has been taken down, seems it was only up for a couple of days. Under "About" I have no doubt of that. He may have gotten a light sentence, but the court of public opinion is in full session...this isn't over. The more the family bolsters, the worse it will become - for all of them. Really, the only way out now is FULL capitulation and a sincere, no excuses, public apology as well as fully dropping all defense litigation.
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Post by perumbula on Jun 9, 2016 17:55:48 GMT
I"m actually hoping the girl brings a civil suit against him. If the kid can afford Stanford, he can afford to pay for her therapy.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jun 9, 2016 18:18:28 GMT
I"m actually hoping the girl brings a civil suit against him. If the kid can afford Stanford, he can afford to pay for her therapy. I agree that she should and the whole issue angers me to no end but "If the kid can afford Stanford, he can afford to pay for her therapy." Is not necessarily a correct statement. Ivy League schools give a lot of money in financial aid to students (they have a higher threshold for need based than state schools). He very well could have money but his family could very well NOT have money. I am not diminishing what he did, just clarifying a fact.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 9, 2016 18:22:19 GMT
I"m actually hoping the girl brings a civil suit against him. If the kid can afford Stanford, he can afford to pay for her therapy. I highly doubt a 19 yr old has anything of value that could be recovered in a civil suit.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 9, 2016 18:22:33 GMT
I am so freakin' livid about that letter the dad wrote to the court, I can't see straight. Then to add insult to injury, this. ugh
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 9, 2016 18:24:49 GMT
I"m actually hoping the girl brings a civil suit against him. If the kid can afford Stanford, he can afford to pay for her therapy. I agree that she should and the whole issue angers me to no end but "If the kid can afford Stanford, he can afford to pay for her therapy." Is not necessarily a correct statement. Ivy League schools give a lot of money in financial aid to students (they have a higher threshold for need based than state schools). He very well could have money but his family could very well NOT have money. I am not diminishing what he did, just clarifying a fact. People often underestimate just how much financial aid is available at these schools. Stanford has waived all tuition for families making less than $125,000. This individual was also on a swimming scholarship (I read the percentage a few days ago - I want to say 60%). His family could be incredibly wealthy - or incredibly poor -his attendance at Stanford is proof of nothing when it comes to family wealth.
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Post by realm on Jun 9, 2016 18:29:28 GMT
Yet another example of not taking responsibility for Brock's actions, this family just doesn't get it at all.
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Post by katybee on Jun 9, 2016 18:30:50 GMT
I"m actually hoping the girl brings a civil suit against him. If the kid can afford Stanford, he can afford to pay for her therapy. I highly doubt a 19 yr old has anything of value that could be recovered in a civil suit. And I cannot imagine the hell his lawyers would put her through in any kind of civil case.
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Post by ohiodianna on Jun 9, 2016 18:33:03 GMT
I do not know the family. I live close to his hometown. Very wealthy area. No everyone is not rich but most are. I am very saddened by the way this whole thing has happened. The sentence is unbelievable and the people who wrote letters saying what a great kid he is.
I saw in local paper today school was not aware high school guidance counselor write a letter in his favor. Community not pleased with it.
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Post by joelise on Jun 9, 2016 18:40:46 GMT
That's shocking! It makes me so angry!
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 9, 2016 18:44:09 GMT
If you believe Google - father is a civilian employee of the Air Force, mother is a nurse. I don't know enough about the civilian pay scale to know how much the father might make - but I don't think these people are the Rockefellers.
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Post by ilikepink on Jun 9, 2016 18:48:22 GMT
Yet another example of not taking responsibility for Brock's actions, this family just doesn't get it at all. This is part of what has me so royally pissed off - this kid, his family appears to have No Clue what he has done. Whether the family has money or not (I suspect they can afford a lawyer) isn't the point. I have sons, three wonderful men who have each made mistakes in their lives. I have emotionally supported them through each and every error in judgment (some legal and some not), but--Their Mistake, Their Responsibility. They had to apologize/make restitution/suffer the punishment that was given to them, and then whatever punishment we assigned as parents. For this kids family--by all means, get the best legal assistance you can afford for your son - but pay for it yourselves!!! Ideally, he should be paying for it - he is an adult. If you can't afford $$$$, the you get $$, or legal aid. Don't further insult our society by asking for help to pay for it. If he were to own up to what he did - really get it, apologize, be willing to do whatever punishment is set forth by the court as a man, I might feel differently. If he/family had no money and had a first-year legal aid assistant who did not represent him well, I might feel differently. But that's not the case - this underage man drank, made poor decisions - and raped an unconscious woman! His dad comments on the kid's dinners and his future without apology - What about the woman he brutally attacked??? Her family??? Her life??? Her future? This kid's family is continuing to show that even his defense is not his/their responsibility. Hell, I'd even feel differently if they "disowned" him--just let him deal with all of this on his own - he is an adult. If you do something wrong, own up to it. Period. (stepping off the podium for now)
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Post by femalebusiness on Jun 9, 2016 18:56:21 GMT
I wish Every . Single . Time that someone posts about these creeps they would copy and paste their names and hometowns. Not just on this board but on all posts everywhere. They should be shamed and their lives ruined...forever.
Stanford University Rapist Brock Turner hometown Oakwood, Ohio Father of rapist Dan Turner Judge Aaron Persky
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 19:12:59 GMT
How disgusting! Can't imagine anyone even thinking of doing that. Their friends are obviously as rotten as they are IMO.
Even worse he's got a sister, going by the photo on that facebook link.....bet the father would change his tune if the boot was on the other foot and it happened to his daughter!
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Post by belgravia on Jun 9, 2016 19:23:37 GMT
To add to your outrage...I was watching Ashleigh Banfield on CNN this morning. She reported that it has come to light that Turner lied to the judge, lied to the court, about his previous experiences with drugs and alcohol. He wrote a letter to the judge in which he portrayed himself as a nondrinker or inexperienced drinker unfamiliar with the Stanford "party culture." He wrote that he looked to his team mates for guidance and viewed them as his family and basically only started drinking at Stanford because his team mates did.
Shockingly, (insert eye roll) this letter is a pack of lies. Cell phone pics have surfaced showing Turner taking hits from a bong while (I believe) in high school. Texts have surfaced that show Turner asking where he could score weed and acid. A naive, innocent babe in the woods pre-Stanford he was not. He also apparently has an underage arrest for drug possession.
Even worse, the judge was aware of these "inconsistencies" prior to sentencing.
This whole case makes me want to bawl my eyes out.
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Post by luckyexwife on Jun 9, 2016 19:25:40 GMT
To add to your outrage...I was watching Ashleigh Banfield on CNN this morning. She reported that it has come to light that Turner lied to the judge, lied to the court, about his previous experiences with drugs and alcohol. He wrote a letter to the judge in which he portrayed himself as a nondrinker or inexperienced drinker unfamiliar with the Stanford "party culture." He wrote that he looked to his team mates for guidance and viewed them as his family and basically only started drinking at Stanford because his team mates did. Shockingly, (insert eye roll) this letter is a pack of lies. Cell phone pics have surfaced showing Turner taking hits from a bong while (I believe) in high school. Texts have surfaced that show Turner asking where he could score weed and acid. A naive, innocent babe in the woods pre-Stanford he was not. He also apparently has an underage arrest for drug possession. Even worse, the judge was aware of these "inconsistencies" prior to sentencing. This whole case makes me want to bawl my eyes out. I am not even close to a legal pea , but does anyone know if he can be held in contempt of court for lying to the judge?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 19:33:08 GMT
To add to your outrage...I was watching Ashleigh Banfield on CNN this morning. She reported that it has come to light that Turner lied to the judge, lied to the court, about his previous experiences with drugs and alcohol. He wrote a letter to the judge in which he portrayed himself as a nondrinker or inexperienced drinker unfamiliar with the Stanford "party culture." He wrote that he looked to his team mates for guidance and viewed them as his family and basically only started drinking at Stanford because his team mates did. Shockingly, (insert eye roll) this letter is a pack of lies. Cell phone pics have surfaced showing Turner taking hits from a bong while (I believe) in high school. Texts have surfaced that show Turner asking where he could score weed and acid. A naive, innocent babe in the woods pre-Stanford he was not. He also apparently has an underage arrest for drug possession. Even worse, the judge was aware of these "inconsistencies" prior to sentencing. This whole case makes me want to bawl my eyes out.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 9, 2016 19:34:30 GMT
He's a #**%£<}^*£€!!!!! Pig as is his family. He will never take responsibility for his actions. I hope he sees "20 minutes of action" every day that he is in incarcerated!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 9, 2016 19:37:10 GMT
This was the Facebook page that was taken down, the account is still there, but I bet there are not a whole lot of contributors!
Most people think he's a piece of shit!
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Post by femalebusiness on Jun 9, 2016 19:39:26 GMT
That judge Persky was a Stanford graduate. He was protecting his own. Fuck him and never forget his name.
Rapist BROCK TURNER hometown Oakwood, Ohio Father of rapist DAN TURNER Judge AARON PERSKY Stanford University
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 9, 2016 19:39:41 GMT
I think I look absolutely murderous whenever someone says, "Well, she shouldn't have. . ." because they never seem to finish that sentence.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 9, 2016 19:47:28 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 9, 2016 20:02:50 GMT
Here are some excerpts of the letters written on his behalf:
Caroline Turner, Turner's sister
In her letter, Turner's sister talked about how she had watched him "become a shell of his former self" since the sexual assault on Jan. 18, 2015.
"When he first returned from California a few days after the incident, I remember Brock needing to be constantly touched and held. He was suffering immensely and couldn't sleep alone, much like me when I was a young child. Since January of last year, I have gotten to know the new Brock: I have witnessed him carry the stigma of being accused of rape and sexual assault and the social, professional, and cultural effects that he has experienced; l have witnessed his struggle to even get out of bed. This is in stark contrast to the young man my brother used to be, always energetically pursuing his goals. The aftermath of this paradigm shift in his life has been incredibly difficult for me to observe, but Brock did the best he could to persevere through the situation."
She added:
"A series of alcohol-fueled decisions that he made within an hour timespan will define him for the rest of his life. Goodbye to NCAA championships. Goodbye to the Olympics. Goodbye to becoming an orthopedic surgeon. Goodbye to life as he knew it."
Richard and Carolyn Bradfield, Turner's grandparents
The couple told the judge they were unable to attend Turner's trial because of medical concerns and were disheartened that because they are "on a fixed income" they could not provide financial help to Turner's parents.
When they heard about the jury's verdict, they said, they were distraught.
"We were shocked, and stunned by the outcome and left to the only thing we could do -- hold each other and cry. We still are in disbelief. Brock is the only person being held accountable for the actions of other irresponsible adults. He raised a right hand, swore an oath and told the truth.
"Brock is a good 20 year old young man who has never been in trouble. Brock has essentially served a 14 month jail sentence while awaiting trial. We beg the court to grant time served and no additional time to our grandson, Brock Turner."
Margaret Quinn, retired federal prosecutor and friend
Quinn, who said she has known Turner's family for 15 years, wrote that "the collateral consequences of a conviction are staggering."
"It is evident, especially within the last few years, that sexual misconduct is a growing concern on college campuses; it is a very real problem. This rising concern has encouraged many college campuses to put sexual misconduct at the forefront of the discussion table. More and more universities are implementing mandatory workshops aimed at educating incoming freshman on the importance of consensual sex, effective communication between partners, healthy relationships, and safe drinking practices on college campuses. These educational programs for incoming students are effective; a comprehensive approach to educating students on the dangers of excessive alcohol consumption and sexual misconduct is the most effective way to combat these issues that are all too relevant on college campuses.
"If the Court saw fit, perhaps Brock could better serve his future development and that of other young men, in counselling them, speaking to them, warning them about the devastating consequences of a single decision. Brock could have the unique opportunity to mentor students on this complex issue that young people from all over the country will undoubtedly face in their lifetime.
"I met with Brock and his family last week. They are devastated. Brock himself is despondent; he is broken. There is no doubt Brock made a mistake that night -- he made a mistake in drinking excessively to the point where he could not fully appreciate that his female acquaintance was so intoxicated. I know Brock did not go to that party intending to hurt, or entice, or overpower anyone. That is not his nature. It never has been. This unfortunate series of events has left Brock in despair. Rather than strip him of any chance to rectify this situation, I hope his punishment enables him to educate young people on the importance of safe alcohol consumption, and effective communication between two consenting individuals.
"I believe a prison term will serve no useful purpose in Brock's case."
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 9, 2016 20:09:33 GMT
Google, What is Purjury: Perjury is the criminal offense of lying under oath. A perjury charge may be brought when someone makes a false statement after being sworn in or promising to tell the truth in a legal situation. For instance, a person giving testimony on the stand during a court case who tells a lie may be charged with perjury. Sounds like that's what he did, to me...
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Post by hop2 on Jun 9, 2016 20:24:27 GMT
I think I look absolutely murderous whenever someone says, "Well, she shouldn't have. . ." because they never seem to finish that sentence. That's just it though she could have passed out for any number of reasons that were not her fault. From medical reasons to whatever. You just don't sexually assault unconcious people. It's just wrong. Wrong on ALL levels. Who does that? And HOW is it not his fault ummm she is unconcious, so what part is her *fault* ??
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Post by hop2 on Jun 9, 2016 20:38:59 GMT
Excerpt from Quinn
'Social media reaction to Turner’s six-month sentence in county jail has been harsh, but Quinn said, “I haven’t read any reaction to my letter. If people wanted to do some good instead of being so hateful, they would look at the whole cultural situation and how change could be affected on campuses. It’s a sad situation for everyone. There’s a lot more to this story that what is on social media.”
Umm how about we change the situation by hold rapists responsible for raping people. Maybe we start there. Keep your hands and other body parts off of people with consent. And guess what unconcious people can not give consent. How about we teach all young men THAT?
It's JUSTthis kind of bullshit that creates and condones and perpetuates a culture where RAPE is acceptable. Which is what we have right now, a good ole boy network where it's all swept under the rug and the Rapist acts like the victim.
It's sickening
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