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Post by myboysnme on Sept 2, 2016 0:54:23 GMT
I love the concept of pocket scrapbooking and I was actually doing it back when I bought 8.5x11 page protectors from Walmart years ago. But I have never been able to make the style work for me. I see incredible work others have done, but I don't seem to be able to transition my style to pockets.
On another thread I said if I could be a scrap celeb I would be Becky Higgins because her sketches, lettering, and 8.5x11 layouts were early on the way of scrapbooking that wasn't wonkified shapes and deco scissors. She changed scrapbooking and while I never followed her I couldn't help but be aware of her - I worked in an LSS for almost 7 years. I think many of her followers both expect and love her style and products, and she figures, Hey, why not expand? I mean, you only go around once. Might as well live it to the fullest that you can.
I would only buy the wrapping paper if I saw it on mega clearance at Tuesday Morning though.
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Post by myboysnme on Sept 2, 2016 0:55:56 GMT
BTW, how does one become a certified scrapbook instructor? I think there is a word missing between "a" and "certified" and that word is Michaels. I'm not sure if it even still exists, but you could take a one day class and POOF, you are an "official certified scrapbook instructor"! too funny!
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Post by Night Owl on Sept 2, 2016 0:59:10 GMT
I just read this:
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Post by mom on Sept 2, 2016 1:04:03 GMT
I saw it as well. :eyeroll:
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Post by Night Owl on Sept 2, 2016 1:10:13 GMT
I remember years ago Stacy Julian doing a form of Project Life. I don't think Becky is that creative but she surrounds herself with people who are and has been clever enough to market it.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Sept 2, 2016 1:22:24 GMT
Which would be great if people actually came here with supportive opinions based on this thread and the statements she made in the FB group that ultimately caused the blow up. I just hope if anyone does pop over with a contribution they take the entirety of the thread into consideration versus a one sided version.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Sept 2, 2016 1:28:05 GMT
I remember years ago Stacy Julian doing a form of Project Life. I don't think Becky is that creative but she surrounds herself with people who are and has been clever enough to market it. Even before Project Life became this big brand for simpler scrapbooking, Simple Stories was around. They've ALWAYS done cut apart sheets and half of their collection kits are those types of papers because that was a concept they were encouraging as well. She just did it concisely in a way that resonated with people. Kudos to Becky for that. Until the 2peas weekly PL videos, I just considered it something else to juggle...I went back and forth for a year plus before (all the while gathering supplies like a freaking squirrel heading into a long cold winter) finally deciding to go with it. NOTHING in this industry is really all that unique or original anymore...it's all about who markets something the best. Even then, you can be outdone even if your tagline or name for it is what sticks out to people.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 2, 2016 1:45:14 GMT
There was a brand (Memory something or other) that came out before Project Life that had sealed slots for pictures. The pages were black with clear covers. I used them for years before BH came out with hers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 2:06:17 GMT
scrapaddict702Your comment ..."all the while gathering supplies like a freaking squirrel heading into a long cold winter" cracked me up! That's me !!!!! And I think I now how a use for that squirrel veneer (or whatever it was) I got from SC ages ago! That's the best comment I have read all day!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 2:13:42 GMT
I think its time to move on. You are appearing to look like a bully now.
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Post by mom on Sept 2, 2016 2:20:04 GMT
I think its time to move on. You are appearing to look like a bully now. and yet you felt the need to bump her post. The discussion had moved on until you quoted her.
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Post by mom on Sept 2, 2016 2:22:12 GMT
I remember years ago Stacy Julian doing a form of Project Life. I don't think Becky is that creative but she surrounds herself with people who are and has been clever enough to market it. Even before Project Life became this big brand for simpler scrapbooking, Simple Stories was around. They've ALWAYS done cut apart sheets and half of their collection kits are those types of papers because that was a concept they were encouraging as well. She just did it concisely in a way that resonated with people. Kudos to Becky for that. Until the 2peas weekly PL videos, I just considered it something else to juggle...I went back and forth for a year plus before (all the while gathering supplies like a freaking squirrel heading into a long cold winter) finally deciding to go with it.NOTHING in this industry is really all that unique or original anymore...it's all about who markets something the best. Even then, you can be outdone even if your tagline or name for it is what sticks out to people. I did as well. Until I started seeing the videos I wasn't sure I could actually do it. But that didnt stop me from buying supplies for it! HA!
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Post by Skellinton on Sept 2, 2016 2:25:55 GMT
950nancyThat was Scrapworks. They also had amazing textured paper and rubber embellishments. They were very innovative, I can't imagine why they went out of business. One of my all time favorite companies. They used the most gorgeous blue in their line of water/swimming themed line, I hoarded that line for years.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 2, 2016 2:29:21 GMT
950nancy That was Scrapworks. They also had amazing textured paper and rubber embellishments. They were very innovative, I can't imagine why they went out of business. One of my all time favorite companies. They used the most gorgeous blue in their line of water/swimming themed line, I hoarded that line for years. You're right. Memory something or other was so close! I have two full albums of 30 years of teaching using those pages. I thought Becky took their idea years ago, but I have no idea how it all worked out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 2:31:53 GMT
I think its time to move on. You are appearing to look like a bully now. and yet you felt the need to bump her post. The discussion had moved on until you quoted her. You accuse me falsely......I'm new to all this....I don't even know what "bump her post" means. Just learning how this works. All I'm saying, it's time to move on and leave her alone, that's all.
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Post by QueSeraSera on Sept 2, 2016 2:40:51 GMT
Bumping means that you bump the post to the top of the list again. Quoting someone or mentioning their post brings the spotlight back to the topic being discussed. The thread had turned back to Becky Higgins and project life products until it was brought back to Tracie by you asking peeps to leave her alone and move on. We are trying to move on. But I am so bummed today. I really wanted to buy the 2nd sketch class but now I can't. Me and my kind are unwelcome riffraff.
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Post by Skellinton on Sept 2, 2016 2:41:11 GMT
950nancyI know that BH made PL popular, there is no denying that, but it does irritate me that she is given credit for inventing it. She came up with the name, but pocket scrapbooking was certainly not her invention. If I remember correctly didn't Scrapworks have kind of an album box for the pages?
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 2, 2016 2:55:16 GMT
950nancy I know that BH made PL popular, there is no denying that, but it does irritate me that she is given credit for inventing it. She came up with the name, but pocket scrapbooking was certainly not her invention. If I remember correctly didn't Scrapworks have kind of an album box for the pages? Yes, it was in a box that opened up into a book. I just put my pages in pretty bright yellow WRMK albums with two circles on the front for pictures. I saw a box album not too long ago at a scrap raffle. Blast from the past.
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Post by alissa103 on Sept 2, 2016 2:58:32 GMT
Oh my goodness. This thread certainly took a turn since the last time I checked it! I finally decided to see how we were all still possibly discussing BH's home brand for 9 pages to find... this.
Tracie, I admit my heart sank when I read that you posted the question on the other page to avoid members that are both in your FB group and here. Because that is me. And I post in your group. I'm not taking it personally bc that's just not me but I admit that it stung for a minute.
As for the rest of the discussion, I am a FIRM believer in owning ones opinions and I own mine. At least I try! And I know many of you do too. If I don't like something I want to discuss it. If I love something I want to discuss that too. I want to know why someone else does or doesn't love something as well..
I love a good, respectful conversation about our hobby and our differences. I do not see the need for sunshine and rainbows all the time bc that's just not reality! I'm a realist. And that is why I love this place, even when things get hot and heated. Because y'all own your opinions too. And I do appreciate that about you all. And I appreciate that apologies are made and we move on. So thank you for that too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 3:01:14 GMT
Bumping means that you bump the post to the top of the list again. Quoting someone or mentioning their post brings the spotlight back to the topic being discussed. The thread had turned back to Becky Higgins and project life products until it was brought back to Tracie by you asking peeps to leave her alone and move on. We are trying to move on. But I am so bummed today. I really wanted to buy the 2nd sketch class but now I can't. Me and my kind are unwelcome riffraff. Thank you.....do you know how I can remove myself from this group? It's just not for me.
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Post by alissa103 on Sept 2, 2016 3:05:32 GMT
Bumping means that you bump the post to the top of the list again. Quoting someone or mentioning their post brings the spotlight back to the topic being discussed. The thread had turned back to Becky Higgins and project life products until it was brought back to Tracie by you asking peeps to leave her alone and move on. We are trying to move on. But I am so bummed today. I really wanted to buy the 2nd sketch class but now I can't. Me and my kind are unwelcome riffraff. Thank you.....do you know how I can remove myself from this group? It's just not for me. I think you can go to your profile and delete yourself. I'm pretty sure it doesn't delete your posts, but it doesn't allow you to post with your username anymore or get notifications, etc.
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Post by alissa103 on Sept 2, 2016 3:08:03 GMT
Also I'm sorry to bring this topic back around, but jumping in late I wanted to add my 2 cents. Perhaps if we want to discuss PL, someone start a new thread so people don't have to rehash this mess again when they just want to talk PL lol!
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Post by Night Owl on Sept 2, 2016 3:56:37 GMT
That poster didn't know what bumping up a thread means yet was able to create an account in order to post on this particular thread and also knew how to use the quote feature to handslap me? I'm "cultivating a good life" by having a good laugh at this. Thanks for the entertainment, I'll be sure to tip the waiter on the way out. Goodnight!
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 2, 2016 5:04:39 GMT
Also I'm sorry to bring this topic back around, but jumping in late I wanted to add my 2 cents. Perhaps if we want to discuss PL, someone start a new thread so people don't have to rehash this mess again when they just want to talk PL lol! I think that starting a fresh thread to discuss PL, its history (which seems to go way before Becky Higgins rebranded it as her own) and current status would be a great idea! I am not from a scrappy country and I'm quite young so the BH PL products were really an innovation to my documenting. However, I'm always a curious cat and the talk about these previous pocket pages has really wet my appetite to figure out the timeline and get an idea of how all this looked before they become BH's product to market. I find it fascinating and want to know more! Back on topic: is there are any concrete news regarding BH's Home line? Anything new in the works? What is everyone's predictions for her next product(s) to launch? I'm guessing they're going to have to hit the order button soon if they wish to launch festive Christmas-themed gift wrap paper...
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 2, 2016 6:08:49 GMT
Tracie Claiborne 6 hrs I was just reading on a message board about Becky Higgins' new release of wrapping paper and the comments about Becky just made me shake my head. A handful of people are adamant that she is clueless, doesn't know her audience, ignores feedback from her customer base, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It makes me wonder why so many scrapbookers feel entitled to such strong opinions? Is it because they feel they have lined the pockets of someone like Becky and so it gives them the right to be super opinionated about how she should conduct herself and her business? I have seen this over and over again in the 15 years I have been scrapbooking. People become convinced they have all the answers and feel they are entitled to criticize and pick apart someone successful, simply because they've watched them become a success over the years. Someone even had the audacity to imply that Becky is only a success because she was at the right place at the right time once and sat next to Lisa Bearnson in a church. Well aren't all of us who are successful, successful because at some point in our life, we were at the right place at the right time? But you can't overlook the fact that Becky is a smart cookie who is ambitious and creative. I wanted to post this on my own FB page but I was afraid Becky or a friend of hers might see it but I would love to hear opinions on WHY people seem so entitled to their opinion when it comes to famous scrappers. Personally, I hope those type of people do NOT follow me or purchase anything from me because I don't need another critic. Know what I mean? (PS: I did not post this in my own group because some of those same people from that board are in it! Go for it, be your most awful selves. It changes nothing in my life. I can have an opinion and start a conversation somewhere the same as you. It doesn't have to be here. The conversation wasn't about this place, it was just an observation. I was waiting for someone to give me a valid reason that people feel so entitled to an opinion. It's not drama for the sake of drama. If someone is being talked about, they have a right to know. Your post was rude and uncalled for (edited to add that I agree one of my responses were as well). I spend a lot of time and money on this hobby and in this industry. You know what entitles me to an opinion? The fact that I spend a lot of time and money on this hobby and in this industry. Oh, and the fact that I'm free to think and form an opinion on anything that I want to form an opinion on. Thank you. I've liked Becky Higgins in the past. Her sketches, the physical PL products, and her simple approach to scrapbooking. I was excited to see her home line. I like her simple style and she introduces...wrapping paper. As far as a person? I don't care what she does. I don't follow her on instagram. I know few things about her personal life and I like it that way. Scrapping is a hobby and nothing more to me. I don't want to be on a design team. I don't want to work for a scrapbook company. I am a consumer and it's sad how this industry is practically dead. I get that these companies need to survive and branch out, but it's sad the items they are choosing to promote....wrapping paper. One last thing I thought of - people have LONG memories in this industry. You should take a page out of Kelly Purkey's book. She is still dealing with some occasional fallout from an incident that turned ugly years ago. She came here and in my opinion handled it with grace and dignity. She apologized and moved on. Trust me - I guarantee you will one day regret your behaviour here. Don't make the pill more jagged. Thank you! I had decided years ago not to purchase because of that incident. She truly did handle it with grace and dignity and most recently posted to a thread on this board that changed my mind. I have only listened to the Serial podcast. Scrapping podcasts and most other podcasts aren't my thing, so I'm not Tracie's target audience. I am saddened that something we said here was taken to another board. Not the topic itself, but opinions of how posters behaved on this board. Rather than keeping the discussion here and addressing the "haters" directly. Sadly, it has happened before on here and I decided I had to put my pea friends on Facebook on the restricted list. I had naively believed things shared here wouldn't be broadcasted elsewhere. Another reminder, that no place is truly safe. You'd think some message board that started because a website closed wouldn't matter, but apparently it does to some.
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Post by peachiceteas on Sept 2, 2016 6:11:17 GMT
Project Life changed my life - it was just what I needed. I've always had a love of taking photos and memory keeping, but scrapbooking as I knew it, wasn't for me. Discovering PL opened my eyes to the crafting world and I can't see myself ever not doing some form of scrapbooking now.
However I have no love for Becky Higgins and the Project Life brand - I never use the cards or other embellishments. Only thing I buy are the page protectors but now I've moved to 6x8, I gravitate to simple stories pp's.
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Post by goldenblind221 on Sept 2, 2016 8:32:13 GMT
That is FALSE. I did not mention this place. I was simply discussing something amongst friends. I didn't realize I was being stalked but I should have. I just marathon read this thread and only had one question about this: if your comment was not made in reference to the gals here at 2peas, then to what were you referring? That makes a world of difference, IMO.
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Post by paperpilekitten on Sept 2, 2016 10:30:30 GMT
"I had naively believed things shared here wouldn't be broadcasted elsewhere. Another reminder, that no place is truly safe." I think everyone posting here needs to remember that this is a public message board, indexed on Google. Anyone who googles this topic will find this thread. And because of the public and open boards, you can bet your pretty behinds that the marketing team of every single major manufacturer are following this board very closely, picking our brains/posts to see what the scrapbooking community wishes and wants. They are just too smart to post anything here, unless it's a public press release. Another thing to remember is that even if you are in a closed Facebook group which posts are not posted publicly, there will be hundreds or even thousands of members in that group who can read what you are posting. And if you upset anyone, they will take it to their friends. Or, in this specific case, back here. So be careful of what you put out there. Realize that writing something here or on Facebook is the same thing as getting up on stage and speak before an audience of thousands of people. Would you really say those things in that situation? Also do not post anything about anyone that you wouldn't say to their face if they were standing in front of you. If I had Becky Higgins sitting beside me at my desk this very minute, I would kindly tell her exactly what I wrote in this thread and then I would offer my professional services to make a strategy and a proper release plan for her Home collection. Because this release was very badly executed. From a professional point of view. It was so bad that she should try and just forget that it happened, pretend it was a bad dream, and start over from scratch. It's nothing personal. If you don't have the competence, it's easy to do things the wrong way but hopefully you can learn from your mistakes. And maybe the members of your team (please note, I do not think that's the case with Becky's team) try to be 'nice' instead of telling you what you need to hear, because they don't want any conflicts or even lose their jobs. Another thing: If you want to build a business and keep a personal brand in this industry, you'd better hold your tongue online or you are going to pay for it. A tough lesson that Kelly Purkey handled perfectly and very graciously on these boards. I have the utmost respect for her and her brand after her posting here. You do not post that you have negative reviews of products manufactured by a major brand you would love to get as sponsor for you business, but that you cannot post that review publicly to not offend them, so you ask people to message you privately to get the link. Because both your posts and your 'secret' videos will get around, out of your control. You do not run tattling to other forums to get attention, pretend to be offended, stir up drama and make people tell you that you are right and others are wrong. Because it makes you and your brand look bad. Be quiet. That does not mean that you cannot leave negative product reviews or that you cannot speak your mind, if it's called for. But be balanced in your criticism, back it up with knowledge and facts, and keep your integrity! Be professional. I do not mean to tell anyone they can't behave in unprofessional ways around here. Feel free to do so, and to follow your knee jerk reactions and impulsive feelings. But then you also have to take the consequences. And that is my professional advice. Now, as you were.
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Post by paperpilekitten on Sept 2, 2016 11:30:53 GMT
One more thing, more of a general life pointer: Do not be impressed just because someone has 100,000 or even millions of followers on social media. Or, yeah, be impressed: of their amazing social media skills, haha. But remember that they are ordinary people just like you and me. Do not blindly follow 'authorities'. Be one, yourself. See, I'm full of wisdom today! Like a Yoda boss or something. I'll be quiet now. Happy Friday!
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Post by anonrefugee on Sept 2, 2016 11:44:04 GMT
paperpilekitten well done! An example of one of your points: The semi-secret critical videos are something I learned about from a post yesterday, on this public forum. That "secret" wasn't very safe online.
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