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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 23:11:22 GMT
JW's taking children with them is nothing new......as others have also stated. I am not sure why anyone thinks this is a new trend. I don't believe that I have ever had a JW knock on my door and there wasn't at least one child with them.....Also, I absolutely believe they should respect a No Soliciting sign. If I Had one up, I would ask them if they knew what No Soliciting meant as I closed the door. It's new to me because I've never seen a child in all of the times we had them knocking on our door. Growing up, we had them coming around at least once a month which I could never understand. There was a Catholic church on my street and I knew several people in the neighborhood attended that church or the Methodist one that was just one street over. My high school sweetheart's best friend was JW. He and his sister never went with their Mom when she went out. Thankfully, he never pushed it on us. Poor guy had a high maintenance girlfriend who used to get upset that he wouldn't acknowledge her birthday or Christmas. He ended up with someone who didn't attend church at all and my HSBF actually converted and became a JW. I later heard that the whole no holidays thing appealed to him so it meant he could get out of buying gifts. Don't know if he's active or not. The last time I pointed out the "no solicitors" sign to a JW, she told me I'm going to hell because I wouldn't listen to her. I shut the door in her face. Now I just don't answer.
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 6, 2014 23:21:24 GMT
The last time I pointed out the "no solicitors" sign to a JW, she told me I'm going to hell because I wouldn't listen to her. I shut the door in her face. Now I just don't answer. Well...did she say it nicely like she was actually concerned? Or was she pronouncing judgement on your sorry sinning ass? Curious minds need to know. Geez...some people, lol. ETA: I should probably clarify that if that happened to me, I'm not really sure what I would do except to ask,"Oh, and you're God? You can send me to hell?" before I burst out laughing in her face.
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Post by Skypea on Aug 6, 2014 23:22:38 GMT
my, my. Doesn't sound like it's the adult/parent causing the verbal abuse.
what do they ram down your throat? Do they stuff a tract into your mouth and then hold it shut?
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Post by BarbaraUK on Aug 6, 2014 23:33:05 GMT
Yes, I've seen babies and children with JW's here too.
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Post by greenlegume on Aug 6, 2014 23:37:45 GMT
JW's taking children with them is nothing new......as others have also stated. I am not sure why anyone thinks this is a new trend. I don't believe that I have ever had a JW knock on my door and there wasn't at least one child with them.....Also, I absolutely believe they should respect a No Soliciting sign. If I Had one up, I would ask them if they knew what No Soliciting meant as I closed the door. It's new to me because I've never seen a child in all of the times we had them knocking on our door. Growing up, we had them coming around at least once a month which I could never understand. There was a Catholic church on my street and I knew several people in the neighborhood attended that church or the Methodist one that was just one street over. My high school sweetheart's best friend was JW. He and his sister never went with their Mom when she went out. Thankfully, he never pushed it on us. Poor guy had a high maintenance girlfriend who used to get upset that he wouldn't acknowledge her birthday or Christmas. He ended up with someone who didn't attend church at all and my HSBF actually converted and became a JW. I later heard that the whole no holidays thing appealed to him so it meant he could get out of buying gifts. Don't know if he's active or not. The last time I pointed out the "no solicitors" sign to a JW, she told me I'm going to hell because I wouldn't listen to her. I shut the door in her face. Now I just don't answer. That's very odd, since JWs don't believe in hell.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 23:40:42 GMT
What irritates me is my sticker clearly states NO SOLICITING INCLUDING RELIGIOUS PLEAS. They still knock and/or leave pamphlets. Get off my property and respect my sign. I work nights and do not need to be bothered by anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 23:41:51 GMT
my, my. Doesn't sound like it's the adult/parent causing the verbal abuse. what do they ram down your throat? Do they stuff a tract into your mouth and then hold it shut? They are bothering people in their homes and trespassing. Not a good way to "sell" a religion.
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Post by gillyp on Aug 6, 2014 23:47:13 GMT
Twenty odd years ago I answered the door to two women and a child of about 7. I will never forget what one of the women said "I would like you to meet my daughter, she has drawn a picture for you. Give the lady your picture. Isn't it lovely. Aren't we lucky that God has given her this talent." Etc.etc.. I was furious that a child had been used like this but couldn't say much as the child was clearly waiting for thanks and it wasn't her fault I was so angry.
I am pretty short with people coming to the door but there has recently been a programme on TV here following Mormon missionaries which for the first time made me consider what it must be like for them. So next time they come knocking I might invite them in for a cup of tea!
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Post by lisasahm on Aug 6, 2014 23:48:28 GMT
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Post by marmargirl on Aug 6, 2014 23:56:08 GMT
Just the other evening, my husband and I were watching TV in the living room. All of a sudden, our dog runs to the door (it was open, we do that sometimes so he can sit on the porch and still be near us) so I looked out the window to see why he was barking and there were two men dressed in white shirts and dress slacks, carrying pamphlets. They had just unlatched the gate when Izzy started toward them. I have never seen someone back off and fumble with the gate latch so quickly!! Thankfully for us, he looks and sounds like a watchdog. However, I have no doubt had they not retreated, he would have wagged his tail and waited for them to pet him (and if he could talk, he would have invited them in for dinner). He is lover, not a fighter!!
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 6, 2014 23:57:24 GMT
I want this one:
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Post by eebud on Aug 7, 2014 0:06:18 GMT
It's new to me because I've never seen a child in all of the times we had them knocking on our door. Growing up, we had them coming around at least once a month which I could never understand. There was a Catholic church on my street and I knew several people in the neighborhood attended that church or the Methodist one that was just one street over. My high school sweetheart's best friend was JW. He and his sister never went with their Mom when she went out. Thankfully, he never pushed it on us. Poor guy had a high maintenance girlfriend who used to get upset that he wouldn't acknowledge her birthday or Christmas. He ended up with someone who didn't attend church at all and my HSBF actually converted and became a JW. I later heard that the whole no holidays thing appealed to him so it meant he could get out of buying gifts. Don't know if he's active or not. The last time I pointed out the "no solicitors" sign to a JW, she told me I'm going to hell because I wouldn't listen to her. I shut the door in her face. Now I just don't answer. I haven't had anyone knock on my door in years........thank goodness. I used to have a neighbor who was JW and we got along great. I told her up front to please never knock on my door to preach and we would not have any problems. LOL She laughed and said she definitely wouldn't and she never did. One year, I was going out of town for Christmas. She was going to get my mail for me and keep an eye on my house while I was gone. I completely forgot they were JW until I walked to their house to bring them a plate of goodies as a thank you. The goodies were on a Christmas plate but otherwise were just goodies, not really Christmas specific. As soon as I walked in her house and didn't see any decorations, I remembered. I also apologized to her and she told me not to worry about it and said they would all enjoy the goodies. As for the JW friend, JW is one religion that I would think they might have a hard time marrying outside of their religion. Most people I know, me included, want to at least be acknowledged on my birthday and Christmas, etc. I don't make a big deal out of them but I am not willing to give it up altogether. I would have laughed at someone who told me I was going to Hell while I was closing the door on them. LOL
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Post by marimoose on Aug 7, 2014 0:16:14 GMT
I agree, not new. This has been occurring in my neighborhood for many, many years. I always assumed that taking a child with them maybe meant that the people behind the door might be more friendly and answer the door. I don't really know. No matter, they never get more than a couple words off before I politely shut them down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 0:28:43 GMT
Twenty odd years ago I answered the door to two women and a child of about 7. I will never forget what one of the women said "I would like you to meet my daughter, she has drawn a picture for you. Give the lady your picture. Isn't it lovely. Aren't we lucky that God has given her this talent." Etc.etc.. I was furious that a child had been used like this but couldn't say much as the child was clearly waiting for thanks and it wasn't her fault I was so angry. I am pretty short with people coming to the door but there has recently been a programme on TV here following Mormon missionaries which for the first time made me consider what it must be like for them. So next time they come knocking I might invite them in for a cup of tea! Mormons don't drink tea unless it's herbal. I would ask anyway to see the awkward look on their faces. There are some that take a hard line and will not drink any type of tea.
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Post by NanaKate on Aug 7, 2014 0:55:11 GMT
Very common here for Christian groups to come to the door with children in tow. I've also heard that they feel the "No Solicitors" signs don't apply to them since they aren't selling goods such as Avon, magazines, etc.
I agree it's annoying and I don't answer the door for them either!
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Aug 7, 2014 1:05:05 GMT
If any religious 'salesperson' came to my door with a child in tow, I would be straight on the phone to the authorities. Dragging a child around in that manner is disgusting. What good would calling the authorities do? I don't think it's abuse, neglect, or illegal, so the police or CPS wouldn't do anything. And would be unable to do anything, even if they agreed with you. Where I live, kids or no kids, if you have a no solicitors sign up, and it's disregarded, the cops can and will issue trespass citations. ETA: that's probably not what Annie was getting at, but since I HAVE a no solicitors sign up on the door, I would also call the cops even if you had the kids with you, and that's what would happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 1:06:45 GMT
My parents used to do this: Mom would answer the door and a turn, yell to my dad: "Honey! They are selling religion again! Want any?" Dad would say: "Not today, dear!" Mom would turn back to the door and say: "Sorry, we don't want any today, thanks." and close the door.
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Post by whipea on Aug 7, 2014 1:34:01 GMT
Never have had any, but I have lived in a gated neighborhood for many years. But I know they are out there, I often see young men riding bikes in white shirts, ties and dress pants wearing backpacks in the nine million plus degree heat and humidity. No children in tow.
I have no patience for religious solicitors, children or not. I wish they would mind their own business and stay out of mine.
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Post by AR Scrapper on Aug 7, 2014 1:51:25 GMT
I had 2 men show up at my door. I wasn't going to open the door to two men when I was a woman a home with small children. A few weeks later a woman and her young child showed up at the door. I just figured they were profiling to get the person who knocks on your door to be most like you. Not sure if that true or if they just take kids to everyone's house. I just assumed it was because I have 4 kids. Lol.
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Post by txdancermom on Aug 7, 2014 1:57:34 GMT
I have had them tell me that they aren't selling anything so the "no soliciting" sign doesn't apply to them - told them that they are "selling" their religion to me, and that yes it does apply....
If I am home alone, I won't answer the door if I am not in the front room (they can see someone is there if I am)
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 7, 2014 2:26:13 GMT
I've seen it while out driving. I haven't seen it at my own door.
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Post by megop on Aug 7, 2014 4:14:37 GMT
Actually, I don't differentiate between "sales" pitches be they retail, political, or religion. If I wanted to seek you out, I would. In the meantime, don't ring my doorbell.
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Post by azredhead on Aug 7, 2014 4:29:47 GMT
I have a $15 disturbance fee included in my no soliciting sign. I have actually had someone ask if I really collected it! I told them it depended on who they were and how annoyed I was! They thought it was pretty clever!
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Post by peasapie on Aug 7, 2014 4:42:40 GMT
I always remember Jehovah's Witnesses coming around with their kinds. I think that, for them, it's very much like bringing kids to church.
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Post by craftchickapowpow on Aug 7, 2014 5:14:36 GMT
I look out the window and if there is no car in the driveway I don't answer the door.
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Post by my.unquiet.mind on Aug 7, 2014 5:29:23 GMT
My city has a policy that bans solicitors of any kind (I only know this because my dad serves on the city council and he's talked about it before). Because of this, if someone contacts the city and complains about solicitors bothering them, the city will make an effort to track them down and ask them to leave in accordance with the city policy. If they refuse to leave, they can be issued a hefty fine.
Other than that, the authorities can't do much else, regardless of whether or not they have kids with them (in my city, anyway).
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Post by mom2rnb on Aug 7, 2014 5:48:00 GMT
I don't know if it's new or not but I would wager to say so based on the fact that this happened to me recently.
It was a saturday morning and I was sleeping in, my daughter was up and answered the door, the dogs were barking so I got up to check and I dealt with them.
As I came to the door (There is a security door in between us, locked of course) There were two ladies, and a young boy about 10 I would say. She introduced herself and the other lady and also the boy and asked if she could talk to me about the bible. I told her no and she asked if there would be a better time and I said no, and she said okay thanks. I don't do well with people trying to sell me their religion at my front door.
Honestly I felt bad for the kid being drug around from door to door in this arizona heat.
I really need to get a sign but it sounds as if even that is not deterring them.
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Post by BeckyTech on Aug 7, 2014 5:59:41 GMT
I get the annoyance, but not the hate. As soon as I realize who it is, whether it's the person trying to sell me a new roof, security system, or share their religion, I simply say "No thank you, I'm not interested." AS I am closing the door. They don't have time to squeeze in a word (or even take a breath) between the time I utter my last word and the door clicks closed. It's not rude on my part, as I am polite, but it sends them on their way.
It's no more annoying or time consuming than dealing with an unwanted phone call.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 6:24:45 GMT
When we get the LDS elders or sisters or JWs I just say thank you but I practice a different faith. They ask me what I say Islam. They leave quickly. I am not rude or mean. They are only there to manage your salvation. But if you went to my Uncle's house and were a JW he had a twisted sense of humour telling them he was a vampire and participated in Satanic rituals. He was also a member at the blood bank. (he was a prick in all sort of ways in his life too.) But that isn't how I deal with them. Just send them on their way.
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Post by wellway on Aug 7, 2014 7:07:34 GMT
The BBC had a article recently about a change of tactic by JW. They are now to be seen at train stations, shopping centres etc in a year long drive according to the article. I hope so because where I live they often knock on my door. www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28166192
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