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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 14, 2016 2:18:42 GMT
I was diagnosed with anemia about a month ago and was prescribed Ferrex150. Should I be noticing any difference in how I feel by now? I was told to take it for two months so it seems like I should notice something by now. I have my dr appt Thursday and plan to ask about testing for B12 and vitamin D. Not sure what else to ask? I have very frequent heart palpitations and feeling like my heart is pounding, feeling short of breath, fatigue, hair falling out, sensitivity to cold, brittle nails, etc.
My dr tested my B12 and Vitamin D levels today. Vitamin D was at the very bottom of the normal range--normal is 30-100 and mine was 31.7. B12 was 482 with a normal range of 208-964. My dr will probably just consider both of those to be normal, but they don't seem optimal.
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Post by kauri on Sept 14, 2016 2:43:21 GMT
I'm curious too! I've been on the same supplement (or maybe it's different in Canada, the one I'm taking is Feramax150) for about a month as well, and I haven't noticed any changes. I still have all the same symptoms too!
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Post by mama2three on Sept 14, 2016 2:46:50 GMT
I noticed a difference within about 2 weeks of starting iron supplementation, and it makes s huge difference for me, but so does vitamin D (my levels of both were extremely low). Are you careful of what you consume when you're taking your iron? There are some things that interfere with absorption. Iron is better absorbed when taken with vitamin c (citrus juice), and taking calcium or calcium rich foods (dairy) at tre same time will interfere. So will caffeine (coffee and particularly tea). I've been told not to have caffeine within 2 hrs of taking iron.
Have you had your thyroid tested?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 14, 2016 2:49:12 GMT
I was taking about 4x the amt you are taking and it took me a full month or 2. I can't believe they haven't checked your vitamin D yet? I think almost every woman in mn has low D.
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Post by tamaraann on Sept 14, 2016 3:01:09 GMT
I was also going to ask if you have had your thyroid checked.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 14, 2016 3:03:48 GMT
I was taking about 4x the amt you are taking and it took me a full month or 2. I can't believe they haven't checked your vitamin D yet? I think almost every woman in mn has low D. I'm kind of irritated with my dr. Pretty much every test that I have had has been at my request. When I had my physical in March 2015 my hemoglobin was 11.2. The dr who I saw at that time told me to take a multivitamin with iron, which I did. When I saw my dr this March (same clinic) I told him of my symptoms and requested to have my thyroid checked. He was hesitant and said that I was just getting older and implied that these symptoms were normal. He only checked my cholesterol, fasting blood glucose (not A1C, even though I have had gestational diabetes and previously pre-diabetes), and TSH. This summer I went to family medicine to have a cough checked out. She ordered blood work which detected lower hemoglobin levels (9.0 I believe) and said to follow up with my PCP. I contacted him and requested that more thyroid tests were done as well as celiac testing, since I have had lifetime issues with constipation and have some of the symptoms. He did those tests and some more specific tests for iron as well as an ultrasound to determine if I have fibroids. He said that I have a few small fibroids but he doesn't think they would be causing much of a problem. Although he did offer me a hysterectomy or ablation. I don't want to do that until I know if that is for sure what is causing the anemia, or if my period continues to worsen. Someone here suggested that I have my B12 levels and vitamin D tested and it seems that is a good idea. I wonder if I am not absorbing the nutrients well in the foods I eat? I usually take the iron on an empty stomach at night. I tried buying orange juice to take with it but the kids drink it all before I get any. Lol
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 14, 2016 3:15:37 GMT
I just looked up the med that I am taking and it says that it does contain vitamin C so hopefully that is as good as taking it with OJ.
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Post by mom2samlibby on Sept 14, 2016 3:27:06 GMT
I don't think you'll see results from taking iron for those symptoms without taking B12, folate, and Vitamin D. They all go hand in hand. If one is low, you can't absorb the others properly. A lot of your symptoms were what I had when I went in to have my B12, folate, and iron tested. Once I started on all of them, I started feeling a lot better.
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Post by Basket1lady on Sept 14, 2016 3:50:04 GMT
I was taking about 4x the amt you are taking and it took me a full month or 2. I can't believe they haven't checked your vitamin D yet? I think almost every woman in mn has low D. I'm kind of irritated with my dr. Pretty much every test that I have had has been at my request. When I had my physical in March 2015 my hemoglobin was 11.2. The dr who I saw at that time told me to take a multivitamin with iron, which I did. When I saw my dr this March (same clinic) I told him of my symptoms and requested to have my thyroid checked. He was hesitant and said that I was just getting older and implied that these symptoms were normal. He only checked my cholesterol, fasting blood glucose (not A1C, even though I have had gestational diabetes and previously pre-diabetes), and TSH. This summer I went to family medicine to have a cough checked out. She ordered blood work which detected lower hemoglobin levels (9.0 I believe) and said to follow up with my PCP. I contacted him and requested that more thyroid tests were done as well as celiac testing, since I have had lifetime issues with constipation and have some of the symptoms. He did those tests and some more specific tests for iron as well as an ultrasound to determine if I have fibroids. He said that I have a few small fibroids but he doesn't think they would be causing much of a problem. Although he did offer me a hysterectomy or ablation. I don't want to do that until I know if that is for sure what is causing the anemia, or if my period continues to worsen. Someone here suggested that I have my B12 levels and vitamin D tested and it seems that is a good idea. I wonder if I am not absorbing the nutrients well in the foods I eat? I usually take the iron on an empty stomach at night. I tried buying orange juice to take with it but the kids drink it all before I get any. Lol *insert eyeroll* Those are common symptoms of getting older because we have wonky periods, busy families, are too busy to get out and enjoy a nice day, and if we do, we are wearing moisturizer with sunscreen. I was was told the same thing when I went in for heart palpitations and vertigo. The dr actually patted me on the knee and told me "women of a certain age get nervous." Whaaaa? I asked for some blood tests and my magnesium and vitamin d levels were crazy low and I had an IV infusion in the ER. He also did a CT and was so arrogant that he read the report wrong. I had a massive sinus infection that went uncaught for months until another dr reviewed my charts. You know your body. You need a full blood work up. Best of luck to you.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 15, 2016 21:35:14 GMT
Update in OP
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Post by mom2samlibby on Sept 15, 2016 21:51:03 GMT
Did they test iron and folate levels also?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 15, 2016 21:58:29 GMT
They tested iron last month. I forgot to ask about folate and it doesn't look like they tested that. Iron binding capacity was 485, % sat was 6%, total iron was 28 and hemoglobin was 9.2.
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Post by mom2samlibby on Sept 15, 2016 22:05:12 GMT
I'm really surprised that they didn't want to see if it was rising. But, at 28, that is really low. Your B12 level isn't bad, but other there are some that consider anything under 500 as deficient.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 15, 2016 22:09:38 GMT
I'm really surprised that they didn't want to see if it was rising. But, at 28, that is really low. Your B12 level isn't bad, but other there are some that consider anything under 500 as deficient. He said he would check the iron levels again in a month. I was just looking online and found that in Japan their normal range for B12 is 500 and some consider 600 to be optimal. So mine isn't the worst but could be better. My Vit D level was pretty low. I'm just not sure what these numbers mean in regards to supplementation.
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Post by mom2samlibby on Sept 15, 2016 22:16:32 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 15, 2016 22:21:20 GMT
Thanks. I'm looking for a new doctor but the problem is that to establish care as a new patient there is a wait for the ones that have been recommended to me.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 15, 2016 22:23:39 GMT
I did just start taking this vitamin a fee weeks ago as well as the iron. Maybe that is enough B12? Not sure about the Vit D? 
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Post by mom2samlibby on Sept 15, 2016 22:39:51 GMT
I take mine separately. Multi's did nothing for me. I wish they would work because that would be a lot easier.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Sept 16, 2016 0:16:10 GMT
I've been on iron for about 2 months. I didn't notice any change in the way I felt, but then again, I hadn't felt bad before I started on the iron. (I am dealing with some swelling in my ankles. Doc suspected anemia as a potential cause and ordered the bloodwork. Sure enough.) One thing my pharmacist told me is that Vitamin C will enhance your iron absorption, so perhaps you'd like to try taking it with some orange juice (or other vitamin C rich food or beverage).
On your Vitamin D question: I don't know whether that is "enough" for you, but 1000 IU, which is the dose in your vitamin, is what my doctor has me taking, so it's at least in a dose that some doctor somewhere might recommend. I have, however, seen some people, maybe even here, say that they are taking as much as 5000 IU, so the range can vary. I don't know if I'd go much higher than that 1000 IU without a doctor's okay.
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Post by momstime on Sept 16, 2016 0:52:16 GMT
No one should be taking iron in isolation. And Vitamin D is not really a vitamin. It is a hormone. Again, not necessary to ingest this hormone. Take WHOLE food vitamin C (not ascorbic acid) and get out in the sun for at least 20 min a day without sunscreen to build your D levels. Doctors are horribly uneducated in matters of nutrition. Most only get one class, if that. Dr's love to push pharmaceuticals vs getting to the root cause of why your levels are low. Low vitamin D is ALWAYs low magnesium. ALWAYS. You need to check you MAG RBC and not serum. Most drs check serum only....a stupid waste of money. Ideally, you want a mag RBC of 6.5-7.0 Most of us living in the U.S., Canada, U.K. and Singapore have been storing iron in our tissues and organs by ingesting: multivitamins, iron supplements, flour and cornmeal that has been mandated by the government to be fortified with inorganic iron filings since 1941, iron fortified baby formulas, iron fortified baby cereals, iron in drinking water, medications, vaccines, etc.. Iron is also passed down from mother to child in utero. Iron fortified flour and cornmeal is used in almost all baked goods, pastas, cereals, tortillas, bagels, muffins, cookies, cakes, rolls, breads, hamburger and hot dog buns, croutons, bread crumbs, etc., etc. Alcohol increases our stored iron; smoking also greatly increases our iron burden. Tobacco leaves contain a large amount of iron; that iron is inhaled directly into the lungs where the macrophages then carry some of it into the blood stream. Excess iron ends up being stored in our liver, kidneys, pancreas, heart, brain, retinas, skin, etc. The iron stored in our tissues and organs does NOT always show up on iron blood tests, but it DOES show up on MRIs. Most of us do NOT have "anemia;" as we are up to our EYEBALLS in iron; however, what we DO have is Iron DYSREGULATION, caused by excess iron and also caused by LOW ceruloplasmin. Do you eat cereal, pasta, bread or anything processed? If so, there is NO WAY you are anemic, despite what your blood tests reveal or what you dr may tell you. You have tons of iron, but it is in the wrong place...and rusting, by the way. Have any pain? Just wait, you will. Why would you ever consent to adding more iron that will likely just end up in your organs and tissue? Ceruloplasmin is REQUIRED to regulate the iron and it is required to move the iron out of the tissues and into the plasma where it can then circulate and be transported by transferrin to the bone marrow where the iron is recycled and used in the new red blood cells. The ceruloplasmin ferroxidase enzyme is what oxidizes the Ferrous Iron and turns it into Ferric iron so that it can then be loaded onto Transferrin and Ferritin. You can learn more about Iron Dysregulation by reading or watching this: liveto110.com/162-rethinking-iron-supplementation-with-morley-robbins/We need to know our serum ceruloplasmin level because ceruloplasmin regulates iron; otherwise, the excess iron will be stored in tissues and organs. The older we get, the more the unbound iron builds up in our tissues. Iron feeds all pathogens, including yeast, bacteria, fungi, viruses, parasites, cancer and also causes neurodegenerative disorders including Parkinson's, ALS, Huntington's, M.S., Alzheimer's, Schizophrenia, etc. Iron dysregulation is also the cause of heart attacks, arthritis, inflammation, oxidation, diabetes, high cholesterol, thyroid dysfunction, gout, viscous (thick) blood, matted, dense fibrin which distorts the shape of red blood cells, etc., etc. Hemoglobin is the "engine" which contains the active red blood cells. Ferritin is the "trunk" and it is a storage protein for iron in the liver. The Ferritin proteins in the liver are mostly EMPTY because they have lost much of their iron content. Ferritin is released by damaged cells. High serum Ferritin is a sign of oxidation and inflammation; we do not want high ferritin levels. Morley recommends Ideal ferritin at 20-50 ng/dL. One last thing...if you take hormone D and feel better initially, believe me it won't last. You will end up far sicker than you ever thought possible in a rather short time. I urge all of you to watch the video posted above. It can be life changing.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 16, 2016 1:46:01 GMT
No one should be taking iron in isolation. And Vitamin D is not really a vitamin. It is a hormone. Again, not necessary to ingest this hormone. Take WHOLE food vitamin C (not ascorbic acid) and get out in the sun for at least 20 min a day without sunscreen to build your D levels. Doctors are horribly uneducated in matters of nutrition. Most only get one class, if that. Dr's love to push pharmaceuticals vs getting to the root cause of why your levels are low. Low vitamin D is ALWAYs low magnesium. ALWAYS. You need to check you MAG RBC and not serum. Most drs check serum only....a stupid waste of money. Ideally, you want a mag RBC of 6.5-7.0 Most of us living in the U.S., Canada, U.K. and Singapore have been storing iron in our tissues and organs by ingesting: multivitamins, iron supplements, flour and cornmeal that has been mandated by the government to be fortified with inorganic iron filings since 1941, iron fortified baby formulas, iron fortified baby cereals, iron in drinking water, medications, vaccines, etc.. Iron is also passed down from mother to child in utero. Iron fortified flour and cornmeal is used in almost all baked goods, pastas, cereals, tortillas, bagels, muffins, cookies, cakes, rolls, breads, hamburger and hot dog buns, croutons, bread crumbs, etc., etc. Alcohol increases our stored iron; smoking also greatly increases our iron burden. Tobacco leaves contain a large amount of iron; that iron is inhaled directly into the lungs where the macrophages then carry some of it into the blood stream. Excess iron ends up being stored in our liver, kidneys, pancreas, heart, brain, retinas, skin, etc. The iron stored in our tissues and organs does NOT always show up on iron blood tests, but it DOES show up on MRIs. Most of us do NOT have "anemia;" as we are up to our EYEBALLS in iron; however, what we DO have is Iron DYSREGULATION, caused by excess iron and also caused by LOW ceruloplasmin. Do you eat cereal, pasta, bread or anything processed? If so, there is NO WAY you are anemic, despite what your blood tests reveal or what you dr may tell you. You have tons of iron, but it is in the wrong place...and rusting, by the way. Have any pain? Just wait, you will. Why would you ever consent to adding more iron that will likely just end up in your organs and tissue? Ceruloplasmin is REQUIRED to regulate the iron and it is required to move the iron out of the tissues and into the plasma where it can then circulate and be transported by transferrin to the bone marrow where the iron is recycled and used in the new red blood cells. The ceruloplasmin ferroxidase enzyme is what oxidizes the Ferrous Iron and turns it into Ferric iron so that it can then be loaded onto Transferrin and Ferritin. You can learn more about Iron Dysregulation by reading or watching this: liveto110.com/162-rethinking-iron-supplementation-with-morley-robbins/We need to know our serum ceruloplasmin level because ceruloplasmin regulates iron; otherwise, the excess iron will be stored in tissues and organs. The older we get, the more the unbound iron builds up in our tissues. Iron feeds all pathogens, including yeast, bacteria, fungi, viruses, parasites, cancer and also causes neurodegenerative disorders including Parkinson's, ALS, Huntington's, M.S., Alzheimer's, Schizophrenia, etc. Iron dysregulation is also the cause of heart attacks, arthritis, inflammation, oxidation, diabetes, high cholesterol, thyroid dysfunction, gout, viscous (thick) blood, matted, dense fibrin which distorts the shape of red blood cells, etc., etc. Hemoglobin is the "engine" which contains the active red blood cells. Ferritin is the "trunk" and it is a storage protein for iron in the liver. The Ferritin proteins in the liver are mostly EMPTY because they have lost much of their iron content. Ferritin is released by damaged cells. High serum Ferritin is a sign of oxidation and inflammation; we do not want high ferritin levels. Morley recommends Ideal ferritin at 20-50 ng/dL. One last thing...if you take hormone D and feel better initially, believe me it won't last. You will end up far sicker than you ever thought possible in a rather short time. I urge all of you to watch the video posted above. It can be life changing. I actually listened to this podcast awhile ago and am honestly not sure what to think. Either this guy is on to something or he is totally off base. Not sure which yet.
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