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Post by susans sister on Aug 10, 2014 1:50:45 GMT
My DGS is getting his driver's license and would like a car to get to school and back. I want to help him out but I haven't bought a used car (or any car) for a while. Do you think $3,000 to $4000 would be about right? I want him to have something safe, with good tires and brakes.
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Post by Gravity on Aug 10, 2014 2:07:23 GMT
If mileage under 100,000 is important, it will be hard to find anything in that price range.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Aug 10, 2014 2:17:20 GMT
$3,000-$4,000 is a very nice contribution towards a vehicle purchase. It is, however, unlikely to buy you a whole vehicle, at least from a dealer. You might be able to find one from a private party, but I am not sure how the reliability for that would be. But the good news is that you can buy new tires and new brakes.
Nine years ago, I bought a used car for around $9,000 (pre-taxes and fees). When I wanted that price point this time around, the dealers all but laughed at me. "Yeaaaaaaaaah," said one. "You'll have to go to our budget lot for that." And I did scope it out, but Gravity's right-- they all have a TON of miles on them. Lots in the six digits already.
ETA: if you have any "major" dealerships in your neck of the woods, or you know the names of the major ones nearby, odds are that they have searchable inventory on their website, so you could look around and see if there is anything out there in your price range. Carmax is a national chain and will ship vehicles nationwide, so you might look to see if there is one near you, and then check out their site as well.
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Post by craftchickapowpow on Aug 10, 2014 2:18:39 GMT
I was thinking $5,000 would be enough to get an older car that is safe and dependable. I also wanted to say that your DGS is very lucky to have such a thoughtful and generous grandmother!
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Post by houstonsandy on Aug 10, 2014 2:25:37 GMT
It may be different in your area, but here is our experience in Houston recently. We started with a budget of $5000. Well, only the "sleazy" type of used car dealers in the questionable parts of town had anything in that price range. The "by owner" ones on Craigslist in that price range..... we had zero luck in anyone returning our calls or texts. So we raised our budget just enough (around $8000) to find things to look at at the "better" (aka less sketchy) car lots. These all had too many miles and crappy looking interiors. We finally found cars we were all happy with when we went up to $10 to 12,000..... Hopefully you will have better luck and more resolve than we did....(although dd does have an awesomely wicked little red mustang now which will carry her well into college)
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 10, 2014 2:34:54 GMT
I also wanted to say that your DGS is very lucky to have such a thoughtful and generous grandmother! That is very kind of you. We recently did some car shopping ourselves and hit sticker shock! Unfortunately I think it's going to be difficult to find something in that price range.. If you are lucky enough to find something under $10K that is lower in miles and reliable, remember to have a mechanic look at it if it's a For Sale by Owner, so you are not stuck with something that needs a lot of work, also. Best of luck.
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Post by mama2three on Aug 10, 2014 2:35:20 GMT
I was thinking $5,000 would be enough to get an older car that is safe and dependable. I also wanted to say that your DGS is very lucky to have such a thoughtful and generous grandmother! I agree! He is very lucky.
There are some older cars that might be a better value. Here is an article that recommends some used cars for young drivers. Some, may be more reasonably priced - like the 2004 Ford Focus which is currently selling between $4500 and $5000 in my area. Best Used Cars for Teen Drivers
You can research online the used cars at dealerships in your area and see what they have available and at what price. Sometimes if they have too many vehicles or a trade-in that has hung around too long, they may be willing to accept a lower price. Another option would be checking Craigslist or classified for a private party selling a car - particularly someone selling a car driven by an elderly driver who probably didn't put many miles on a vehicle. A friend got his car that way for a very low price. It was 15 yrs old, but it only had 15,000 miles on it and was in mint condition.
Good luck
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Post by myboysnme on Aug 10, 2014 2:44:47 GMT
I have purchased 5 used cars in the past year. Yes, we had a run of bad car luck. Each of the cars I purchased were about $10K. They are American made cars and each had between 30K and 50K miles. You might be able to get a really small car for under $10K but it won't really be a safe ride if he's in wreck. I bought the next size up from compact - almost to mid size. Some of them are Ford Focus, Chevy Cobalt, Dodge Avenger, Ford Taurus, Nissan Versa.
I know people who buy like Hondas for $5K that have more than 150K miles and I would not do that.
I bought each of my sons a 2 year old car when they started driving and those cars took them to college.
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Post by mama2three on Aug 10, 2014 2:50:58 GMT
I think it depends on the car and how those miles were driven (e.g., highway vs local roads or rural roads and the type of driver and how they handle the vehicle, which of course you won't really know unless you know the seller). Hondas and Toyotas are known for going a really long time w/o problems. I have had 2 Hondas and a Toyota that each got over 250,000 before we started having big problems and had to replace. My current Toyota van has close to 200,000 miles. The mechanic just told me it is in great shape and I should get another 100,000 out of it. I do need new tires and the AC needs to be recharged, but nothing major.
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Post by psoccer on Aug 10, 2014 3:32:24 GMT
A few years ago, about 5, my son bought his first car. A Chrysler Sebring for 1500.00. The car lasted him through high school, and part way into college. Unfortunately, it need a lot of work after the 3rd year. He put the money into it, and it ran great for a year, and then it just died. It needed a whole new computer, the mechanic thought. In order to find out what was wrong, we had to get a new computer for the car, and then there might be more. We ended up having to junk the car, and he now has my old car. I think, from a private party, you can find a decent car for the 3,000 - 4,000. Our neighbors kids have a nice "grandma" type car, that they paid 4,000 for. Good luck, and thank you for helping out your grandson.
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on Aug 10, 2014 4:36:42 GMT
When my son was a high school senior he was working part time and managed to save most of his paycheck for almost a year. When he was ready to graduate he had $4K. We looked and looked, but we were finally able to buy him a good used car.
He got a 1996 Ford Taurus with low mileage, I think about 70K miles. It's been a reliable car for him. I refer to it as his "learning car," since he's already gotten into a fender bender type of accident. I think $4-5K is very generous.
I also think that it would be a good idea for him to have some type of investment in it. Could he pay $1000 himself and you pay the rest? Or, make it a condition that he has to keep his grades at a certain level.
You are a very generous grandma, to want to be able to help him out like this.
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Post by perumbula on Aug 10, 2014 4:39:00 GMT
For a teenager who just needs a little run around vehicle, that should be fine if you aren't super picky. Choose something that is traditionally reliable. It only needs to last him a few years. You aren't buying a car for the rest of his life or even ten years. If he gets five years out of it he's doing great. Besides some of those 90s compacts get crazy good gas mileage. My husband's Nissan gets 40mpg on the highway.
My dd just bought a '90 Geo Prism. It has a crap ton of miles on it and she had to put some money into it but she's still spent under $1000 on it total. It will be fine for running around in and Prisms are very reliable (which is crazy because the other Geos weren't.)
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Post by luvnlifelady on Aug 10, 2014 7:16:50 GMT
I live in Southern CA and started looking for 17 yo DD recently. It seemed like $5,000 (our budget) got high mile cars unless you were lucky. Carmax won't have much if anything for less than at least $10,000. I got my used PT Cruiser there a couple years ago almost and it was about $14,000 with a 6 year warranty.
We have decided to wait until closer to the first of the year for DD but I might keep my eye out before then just in case something comes along. I may end up just letting her have my PT Cruiser and finding me something else since I'm not a huge fan of my car.
Good luck finding something for your DGS. You're a nice grandma to help out.
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Post by Kerri W on Aug 10, 2014 13:02:07 GMT
When our kids turn 16 we give them $5,000 to buy a car. They are welcome to add to it and get something nicer if they'd like. We haven't had a hard time finding ok cars in that price range but would never look at a dealership. Dealers aren't going to have something that inexpensive in our experience. We bought from local sellers we found on cars.com, autotrader.com or the like. DH is pretty handy with cars so he could weed out the obvious bad choices then we took them to our mechanic for a look over. We've purchased a VW Beetle, Jetta and a Jeep Wrangler. The VWs have both made it through high school and college for our DDs and they are both in the market to start looking for something newer.
It was important to my DH to teach them about shopping for a car, learning about value and where to take a risk and where not to, looking beyond the rims...lol. A family member also gave each of my DDs $500 which helped with small repairs to get them started (new tires for one and I can't remember the other).
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Post by SabrinaM on Aug 10, 2014 14:07:53 GMT
IME, it's more important to find a car someone has taken care of than anything else. We bought DH a used car for $2500 6 years ago. It was well taken care of and we've continued to do the same. We have done regular maintenance on it as well as 2 very, very minor repairs (under $200). It's still going strong!
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Post by KikiPea on Aug 10, 2014 14:13:26 GMT
My first car was purchased at an auction for $3000. It can be done, but it won't last a long time. I got about 3-4 years out of mine, but not without some costly repairs.
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Post by YooHoot on Aug 10, 2014 14:15:30 GMT
You can find a used car for that price. Especially where you are. Check craigslist. Bring someone with that knows about cars. We found both my dd's cars on Craigslist and got great deals. The first one she drove for 2 years and we didn't care if she got a ding in it here or there. We paid $500 for it (it was a 2004 Dodge Stratus...lady was moving and it needed 2 or 3 MINOR things fixed...total bargain!). We are getting ready to sell it for the same price we paid. The next one, same thing. The person was moving, they needed it gone. We weren't in a rush, we just checked the site regularly. Told people we were looking for a used car and found a 2007 Malibu with crazy low miles and under $5500.
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Post by caro on Aug 10, 2014 14:16:10 GMT
Low mileage cars depend also if you live in a small town. Around where I live. (Atlanta ) low mileage cars would be a premium price., well over $5K.
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Post by jamh on Aug 10, 2014 14:35:42 GMT
If you buy a used car, take it to the local police department to have it searched for drugs!
JamH
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Post by susans sister on Aug 10, 2014 16:14:22 GMT
Thanks for all the info. There is a lot more to consider than I had anticipated.
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Post by katlaw on Aug 10, 2014 16:20:58 GMT
You should also contact the insurance company and find out what the insurance will be based on the type of vehicle you buy him. We found they wanted $3000 a year for a male teenage new driver to drive a $5000 car. But only $1800 a year for that same insurance for a $12,000 car.
My husband and teenage son are both very mechanically minded so for us to buy a $3000-$4000 car is just fine. They can both do any minor repairs needed. For someone like me who would need to pay a mechanic for every little thing I would not risk a car that did not come with warranty.
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Post by jackie on Aug 10, 2014 16:45:20 GMT
I think $3,000 to $4,000 does sound reasonable. You'll definitely have to look around some and you can't be in a big hurry. I probably wouldn't buy it off a lot. I would start asking around to friends and family in the area and see if anyone is selling a car. That's how my oldest bought his first vehicle about three or four years ago. It was a 1986 Chevy Blazer I think and he paid about $1000 for it. That vehicle has been across the country at least four times. Now my middle son drives it after oldest went into the Navy. He loves it. It definitely has over 100,000 miles on it, but well-made vehicles can easily go well over that. It's not perfect to look at it but it's not horrible. My son in the Navy is actually very sad that he sold it to us for middle son because he misses it dearly. He's looking to buy something else under $5,000 and we're helping him with that. In fact, my dh knows someone at work who has a Hyundai Accent for sale for $2,100. It looks very clean and has about 60,000 miles on it. We don't know the year yet, but dh is going to look at it and ds might buy it if dh gives the thumb's up. In fact, I was getting ready to start a thread asking about Hyundai Accents--if anyone's had any experience with them. I'd like to find the year out first though.
Agree with the others though--you ARE a generous grandma!
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Post by mightyme on Aug 10, 2014 18:43:45 GMT
Yes. Look up craigslist in your area and see what cars are going for. It really depends on if you just want a car. Or something specific. DS wanted an Audi. So it took us longer to find one in his price range. Especially without driving hours to look at them. patience paid off and he is happy with his new car. Mileage doesnt always mean good or bad. Find a car that has a good history. Check to see what or how many recalls that car as had on it. Then how well it has been taken car of. Ds looked at car that was 2 years newer but had more miles on. Was in worse condtion. Then the older car with less miles. The girl took better car of the guy did. LOL
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 10, 2014 18:57:25 GMT
IME, it's more important to find a car someone has taken care of than anything else. We bought DH a used car for $2500 6 years ago. It was well taken care of and we've continued to do the same. We have done regular maintenance on it as well as 2 very, very minor repairs (under $200). It's still going strong!
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 10, 2014 19:06:35 GMT
We just bought dd her 2nd car for her last yr in college. We bought her a buick skylark 1st for 1,000, that had 200,000 miles on it, and lasted a good 3 yrs. The electrical system finally went out of it. About a mo ago we bought her a very clean, nice Toyota Camry, with 125,000 on it, for 3,000. It gets 40 mpg! It's a great nice used car for her. Toyotas and Honda's are work horses. They will very well run to the 200,000 and over, with just minor repairs. I would look in to something like that for him. Esp if he is somewhat mechanical, he can work on it himself, which is what my dh does. We found the car on autotrader, which has auto dealers and personal sellers on there. We bought this from a small town dealer.
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 10, 2014 19:20:00 GMT
My parents gave my son his car when he was in high school. It was my mom's that she hardly drove. It's a Nissan Maxima and had about 60K miles on it at that time. Although we have had to put some $ into the maintenance and some repairs of it, it's still running ::knocking on wood:: and we are hoping it last through the next few years while he lives at school. He has put 20K miles on it since he got it 3 years ago. It was the nicest thing ever that they did and again, your DGS is very fortunate.
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Post by peasful1 on Aug 10, 2014 22:53:31 GMT
We got our son a 2005 Chevy Classic for $3000 out the door with new tires and about 115,000 miles. We got it from the Infiniti dealer we had just purchased our own new vehicle from. We Put in about $1k with of work at my mechanic's. It's a great little car with decent gas mileage.
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Post by holly on Aug 11, 2014 2:51:40 GMT
DH bought a Grand Cherokee jeep about 3 yrs ago. We paid less than $2k for it. It's a 1996 and has about 130k miles on it now. Mechanically the only thing we've done *knock on wood* is tires, brakes and recently a new radiator. DS inherited it when he got his license this year.
Good deals are out there. Just because a car has over 100k miles on it doesn't mean it's not a safe, reliable car. I'd say you could get a pretty decent car for $3-4k through a private seller.
I'm not a big fan of spending a lot of money on a car that's bound to get beat up or statistically my child could wreck. I've heard that cars in college parking lots tend to get beaten up, people putting dings in them, generally not caring about others property. They can have a nice car when they pay for it.
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Post by M in Carolina on Aug 11, 2014 3:54:57 GMT
Dh and I have gotten most of our cars from a dealer friend that goes to the Atlanta car auction. Many of these cars are dealer loaners or fleet cars, so they are well taken care of.
My dad was in law enforcement and worked sex crimes, so he was adamant that I drive a car with low mileage so there would be less chance I got stranded on the side of the road. I look for cars with less than $50k. Obviously there's less risk of violent crime with a boy. We still got newer cars with low mileage at the auctions for around $12k. So older cars would be in your price range.
Definitely check out how much insurance would cost for different cars. Some very popular great quality cars like Hondas cost more to insure because they're one of the top cars that get stolen for chop shops.
I hope your grandson really appreciates this wonderful gift.
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