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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 9, 2016 11:31:29 GMT
I think this will be life altering event for my 14 year old. Her birthday was yesterday and we planned on celebrating the election of the first woman president. The only way I can wrap my head around it is we lost the battle but the war fights on. I wrote this on FB. We will embrace those disenfranchised. We will protect those most vulnerable, we will stand up for those who have lost their voice. We will know that we are better than this. The war is not lost, only the battle. Love will win. Just not today.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Nov 9, 2016 11:38:24 GMT
Thankfully my kids are older so an explanation isn't in order. I really wouldn't have any words that were adequate. For me one of the worst things is that family members support Trump and are very vocal about it. I think for me that is going to be hard. One of the things husband said about immigration is completely horrifying to me. And Thanksgiving with my buffoon of a BIL should be fun. Guess worse than explaining the president would be explaining the family
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 9, 2016 11:38:47 GMT
I dread waking up my daughter who has Autism. Since he mocked the disabled reporter she saw his true colors. I had to get her early from school once because another student kept teasing her about Trump. I'm hoping she had it figured out last night and it won't be a shock. She's an all or nothing person, so I have tried to tell her during the entire election we are a nation with checks and balances and assuring her we are not a country run by a dictatorship. I have to put my feelings of WTF?! aside so she is better able to function. Now, we'll see what happens with Trump.
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Post by destined2bmom on Nov 9, 2016 11:45:52 GMT
I have no idea, other than all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. I did try to explain to my 7 year old before he went to bed that no matter what, his life wasn't going to change drastically tomorrow...I don't know how to explain it further, let alone how to look my 12 year old daughter in the eye tomorrow though. I had to explain the same to my youngest son because he was so worried. I worked so hard to become a citizen of this country. Right now I truly don't know why. I genuinely believed that Americans were better than this. I'm a trauma surgeon, I worked in a level 1 trauma center in a major city. I see/saw the horrible things people do to each other every day. And still I thought Americans were better than this. I just have no words right now. I'm praying that she'll still eke out a victory; it's not over yet and it's very close. I'm praying that people are not going to let evil triumph. God Bless You for being in a profession that is so hard and heartbreaking.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 12:44:27 GMT
You can tell your children that with how bad Trump is, the American people still thought that he was a better option than electing a candidate with a decades long record of corruption and lies.
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Post by secondlife on Nov 9, 2016 12:56:03 GMT
You can tell your children that with how bad Trump is, the American people still thought that he was a better option than electing a candidate with a decades long record of corruption and lies. This is only half true, as half of the voters (plus a few - Hillary is predicted to have won the popular vote by a narrow margin) did not think this.
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Post by uksue on Nov 9, 2016 12:56:30 GMT
You can tell your children that with how bad Trump is, the American people still thought that he was a better option than electing a candidate with a decades long record of corruption and lies. And depressingly, that was how the whole campaign was run - on negatives . I hope Trump learns quickly that old adage ' you catch a whole load more flies with honey than vinegar' because dealing with other men/women of power on the world stage will be a whole new ball game for him .
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 9, 2016 12:56:36 GMT
You can tell your children that with how bad Trump is, the American people still thought that he was a better option than electing a candidate with a decades long record of corruption and lies. I can see empathy is your strong suit eh?
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Post by scrappinghappy on Nov 9, 2016 12:57:10 GMT
According to the numbers on CNN and with some states still uncalled, very nb, she has the popular vote by 0.1% so it was very close.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 9, 2016 12:58:16 GMT
A friend shared this on FB... some good idea's here:
On the Trump nightmare for kids: Some developmentally-sensitive scripts (just suggestions... other ideas?): 0-5 years old: "Grown ups are so silly! Can you believe that a lot of grown-ups voted for a meanie? I know, those grown-ups are so silly! We'll vote for someone better next time. Now let's play outside..." I would never use silly. I would say sometimes Grown Ups make mistakes. I think they were confused.
6-10 years old: "I am so sad and disappointed. I really wanted this to be different. We have a LOT of work to do now! There are lots of ways that our family, community, and our friends are going to protect each other and work together to make sure that we have a kind and fair leader of our country in the future. Let me tell you about some of the things we can do...."
11-13years old: "This is not the first horrible thing that has happened in the United States (refer to the history) and it won't be the last, but for every horrible thing that has happened, there has also been a group of people committed to fighting against it. Have you heard the word "revolution"? That's when people know that so many things are wrong and that the only way to fix them is to change them completely. Let's think about some of the things we could do to make a revolution happen in the United States...."
14+: "Let's look at the exit poll statistics closely so we can see which groups of people voted for Trump". Review BLM platform and demands. Review INCITE! vision statement. Make a family vision statement that includes social justice commitments. Mark organizing dates on family calendar.
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Post by casii on Nov 9, 2016 13:00:16 GMT
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Post by ahiller on Nov 9, 2016 13:01:45 GMT
You can tell your children that with how bad Trump is, the American people still thought that he was a better option than electing a candidate with a decades long record of corruption and lies. Not a majority of the American people. Last I read, she is predicted to win the popular vote. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by ahiller on Nov 9, 2016 13:03:00 GMT
A friend shared this on FB... some good idea's here: On the Trump nightmare for kids: Some developmentally-sensitive scripts (just suggestions... other ideas?): 0-5 years old: "Grown ups are so silly! Can you believe that a lot of grown-ups voted for a meanie? I know, those grown-ups are so silly! We'll vote for someone better next time. Now let's play outside..." I would never use silly. I would say sometimes Grown Ups make mistakes. I think they were confused. 6-10 years old: "I am so sad and disappointed. I really wanted this to be different. We have a LOT of work to do now! There are lots of ways that our family, community, and our friends are going to protect each other and work together to make sure that we have a kind and fair leader of our country in the future. Let me tell you about some of the things we can do...." 11-13years old: "This is not the first horrible thing that has happened in the United States (refer to the history) and it won't be the last, but for every horrible thing that has happened, there has also been a group of people committed to fighting against it. Have you heard the word "revolution"? That's when people know that so many things are wrong and that the only way to fix them is to change them completely. Let's think about some of the things we could do to make a revolution happen in the United States...." 14+: "Let's look at the exit poll statistics closely so we can see which groups of people voted for Trump". Review BLM platform and demands. Review INCITE! vision statement. Make a family vision statement that includes social justice commitments. Mark organizing dates on family calendar. My 6 and 4 year olds decided that wanted to fart on him so I guess we are still in the silly stage. 😂
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Nov 9, 2016 13:04:43 GMT
How about talking about the core principles of both parties? This is something that was glaringly lost this campaign cycle. When Sanders lost the primary, I saw democrats talking about voting democrat anyway because they believed in the party's platform. The republicans in my Facebook feed are excited about Supreme Court nominees and health insurance legislation that keeps the good things about the ACA but takes away the parts they don't like. They don't particularly like Trump, but their beliefs align more closely with a conservative platform.
I'm downright moderate these days. There are beliefs on both sides of the aisle that I completely agree with and that I completely disagree with. As for me, my DD and I have and will continue talking about issues and where we stand on the issues. In the end, I didn't LIKE either candidate, so I took a long look at the most important issues to me. You won't find me calling either candidate's voters names or acting like half the people in the country are bad, evil people for voting for one candidate or the other. I want to raise a child who looks at issues and makes a decision, even if we don't agree.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 13:11:16 GMT
Tell them America (once again) has failed to live up to its ideals and that the needs of the tiny majority to have a temper tantrum because the world keeps changing outweighed the needs of the rest. Tell them that in 2 years we get to vote again and then 2 years after that, and so on...
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Post by melanell on Nov 9, 2016 13:12:00 GMT
My students voted in an online poll - over 90% voted for Hillary. They are going to be stunned. How do I sit there third hour with six 8th grade boys, all of whom are Latino or African-American, and explain how someone who is such a divisive bully who demeans others like them actually won? That so many people voted for this man? I try to be rational and explain things when they and my other students ask questions, without putting my own personal feelings into it, but it's going to be so hard because I truly do not understand the people who voted for him, and how they could look past the horrible things he said and all the lies. It's unfathomable to me that this has happened. Teach them.that EVERY vote counts. To never miss out on their voice being heard. The majority didn't elect Trump...the majority who turned out did. African Americans weren't incentivized to vote for a white woman the way they were for a black man. We are more than our demographic, more than a statistic and each voice matters and should be represented at the polls. Everyone needs to get out there and vote! I have to convince myself that voter turnout was the cause in the close races that shouldn't have been or I just don't know how I will face my fellow Americans with any optimism for our future. Yes!! I am so darn sick and tired of hearing crap like "a vote for so and so is a wasted vote" or "I don't bother because my state always votes (insert opposite color of your political party) so my vote won't count" or "I don't bother because I vote (insert color) and my state already always votes (insert same color)". Last night PA voted red. That was a pretty big surprise. Which means that Clinton supporters who decided they didn't need to add their votes to an already blue pot screwed up. And it means that Trump supporters who voted despite previous elections going blue made the choice to make their voices heard anyway, and their voices won. Every vote DOES matter. You never know when a state may shift in a different direction. You never know when the country may shift in a different direction. The only "wasted" vote is one not cast. Save
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Post by farmdpea on Nov 9, 2016 13:12:01 GMT
I'm downright moderate these days. There are beliefs on both sides of the aisle that I completely agree with and that I completely disagree with. ... In the end, I didn't LIKE either candidate, so I took a long look at the most important issues to me. You won't find me calling either candidate's voters names or acting like half the people in the country are bad, evil people for voting for one candidate or the other. This is me...word for word (obviously, I cut out some text from the PP's quote). I was up in the middle of the night reading FB and reading here. I am frankly disgusted at some of the ridiculous and immature comments people have made here. It's no wonder that we can't have a productive discussion anymore, and that the conservative leaning peas don't bother participating for the most part.
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Post by melanell on Nov 9, 2016 13:15:26 GMT
Turned out the kids were the opposite of how I anticipated. The older one just sighed an moved on with his day. The younger one was confused and kept asking why the mean man gets to be the winner. Then he decided it was because of the 3 kids in his class who said "Vote for trump". To which we just kept reminding him that only adults voted, not kids, and that no matter what anyone at school said yesterday or today or tomorrow he still has to be nice to everyone and only say nice things.
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Post by RosieKat on Nov 9, 2016 13:18:51 GMT
I explained that every person who can vote is entitled to vote for whomever they wish. I told them that there were just too many people who were upset at how politics has been run, and to them, Trump was a good chance at something new. They haven't yet processed what that means. :/ We'll probably have more discussions as it all settles out. For now, we just reminded them not to talk about it at school - total grounds for bullying, based on our new Supreme Overlord's example.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 13:19:23 GMT
To which we just kept reminding him that only adults voted, not kids, and that no matter what anyone at school said yesterday or today or tomorrow he still has to be nice to everyone and only say nice things. Good luck w/that. Now kids can see that you can talk about p***y grabbing and mocking the disabled and still be President.
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Post by janeliz on Nov 9, 2016 13:23:23 GMT
I'm numb and exhausted and I didn't know what to say to my daughters this morning. My 14 year old cried a bit and my 11 year old was just very quiet. I made a stab at a whole "sometimes a country takes 10 steps forward and then 5 steps back" explanation, but I know that was little comfort.
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Post by rickmer on Nov 9, 2016 13:27:05 GMT
every comment on this Canadian's FB feed this morning referring to the election was "how do i tell my kids?". well there was one comment that "america, you reap what you sew"... my son asked if trump means there will be world war 3. ugh. we can just pull up a seat and watch trump "make america great again". his campaign got him there but i expect those who voted for him have pretty high expectations that things will change for the better. they aren't going to be happy if he is just "another politician" who says what it takes to win and then does whatever he wants or is politically prudent.
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Post by rickmer on Nov 9, 2016 13:27:17 GMT
every comment on this Canadian's FB feed this morning referring to the election was "how do i tell my kids?". well there was one comment that "america, you reap what you sew"... my son asked if trump means there will be world war 3. ugh. we can just pull up a seat and watch trump "make america great again". his campaign got him there but i expect those who voted for him have pretty high expectations that things will change for the better. they aren't going to be happy if he is just "another politician" who says what it takes to win and then does whatever he wants or is politically prudent.
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Post by farmdpea on Nov 9, 2016 13:27:42 GMT
To which we just kept reminding him that only adults voted, not kids, and that no matter what anyone at school said yesterday or today or tomorrow he still has to be nice to everyone and only say nice things. Good luck w/that. Now kids can see that you can talk about p***y grabbing and mocking the disabled and still be President. I can't believe I'm even wading into this, but.... Since when has the President of the USA determined appropriate behavior? Haven't they pretty much all had mistresses? Do you tell your children adultery is ok? I certainly don't consider myself a "political pea", but some of you are putting way too much responsibility on an imperfect human elected to do a job. He was not elected to parent your children.
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 9, 2016 13:29:59 GMT
My 7 year old wanted to know how fast the wall will get built, and all 3 of the kids want to know how soon dad will be leaving again to fight more wars. And of course my 12 your old dd still wants to know why it is ok for p*ssy grabbing and uterus controlling.
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Post by melanell on Nov 9, 2016 13:31:22 GMT
To which we just kept reminding him that only adults voted, not kids, and that no matter what anyone at school said yesterday or today or tomorrow he still has to be nice to everyone and only say nice things. Good luck w/that. Now kids can see that you can talk about p***y grabbing and mocking the disabled and still be President. Kids already see countless celebrities acting badly. They can certainly still learn that they needn't act the same. Save
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 13:33:40 GMT
Good luck w/that. Now kids can see that you can talk about p***y grabbing and mocking the disabled and still be President. I can't believe I'm even wading into this, but.... Since when has the President of the USA determined appropriate behavior? Haven't they pretty much all had mistresses? Do you tell your children adultery is ok? I certainly don't consider myself a "political pea", but some of you are putting way too much responsibility on an imperfect human elected to do a job. He was not elected to parent your children. No other President has been as gleefully and openly disgusting toward women, minorities, disabled, etc. as Trump, like talking about women's looks as their most important attribute. W/Trump, we can't tell the kids that poor behavior tends to have bad consequences for positions of prestige. They can see for themselves that it doesn't.
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Post by annaintx on Nov 9, 2016 13:36:44 GMT
My 7 year old DD this morning told her dad: "Why does it always have to be a boy?"
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Post by annaintx on Nov 9, 2016 13:37:57 GMT
You can tell your children that with how bad Trump is, the American people still thought that he was a better option than electing a candidate with a decades long record of corruption and lies. Actually, the popular vote went to Clinton, it's the way the "system" works that the electoral votes went to that man.
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Post by melanell on Nov 9, 2016 13:38:31 GMT
I can't believe I'm even wading into this, but.... Since when has the President of the USA determined appropriate behavior? Haven't they pretty much all had mistresses? Do you tell your children adultery is ok? I certainly don't consider myself a "political pea", but some of you are putting way too much responsibility on an imperfect human elected to do a job. He was not elected to parent your children. No other President has been as gleefully and openly disgusting toward women, minorities, disabled, etc. as Trump, like talking about women's looks as their most important attribute. W/Trump, we can't tell the kids that poor behavior tends to have bad consequences for positions of prestige. They can see for themselves that it doesn't. I have never in my life taught my kids to behave kindly so that they won't have negative consequences if they are ever hoping to be in a position of prestige. There are countless reasons to behave in a kind and respectful manner and that's why we choose to do so. Save
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