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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 9, 2016 13:42:11 GMT
Good luck w/that. Now kids can see that you can talk about p***y grabbing and mocking the disabled and still be President. I can't believe I'm even wading into this, but.... Since when has the President of the USA determined appropriate behavior? Haven't they pretty much all had mistresses? Do you tell your children adultery is ok? I certainly don't consider myself a "political pea", but some of you are putting way too much responsibility on an imperfect human elected to do a job. He was not elected to parent your children. I believe that a small minority have been reported to have mistresses. But to my knowledge, neither of the Bush's nor Obama did, or have been rumored to have a mistress. There is a HUGE difference between what happens privately, and what the President of the USA says and does publicly. |
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Post by Anita on Nov 9, 2016 13:43:57 GMT
I told my 16 year old that, unlike in the movies, sometimes evil wins.
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Post by farmdpea on Nov 9, 2016 13:44:44 GMT
I can't believe I'm even wading into this, but.... Since when has the President of the USA determined appropriate behavior? Haven't they pretty much all had mistresses? Do you tell your children adultery is ok? I certainly don't consider myself a "political pea", but some of you are putting way too much responsibility on an imperfect human elected to do a job. He was not elected to parent your children. I believe that a small minority have been reported to have mistresses. But to my knowledge, neither of the Bush's nor Obama did, or have been rumored to have a mistress. There is a HUGE difference between what happens privately, and what the President of the USA says and does publicly. I'm not sure I agree with your last statement. I was always taught "what is done in the dark always comes to light". I was at a very innocent age when all the Clinton/Lewinsky stuff happened. I'm sure that colored my opinion of our leaders. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 13:44:47 GMT
No other President has been as gleefully and openly disgusting toward women, minorities, disabled, etc. as Trump, like talking about women's looks as their most important attribute. W/Trump, we can't tell the kids that poor behavior tends to have bad consequences for positions of prestige. They can see for themselves that it doesn't. I have never in my life taught my kids to behave kindly so that they won't have negative consequences if they are ever hoping to be in a position of prestige. There are countless reasons to behave in a kind and respectful manner and that's why we choose to do so. SaveThe election is teaching them that little matters but the temper tantrum of people who are scared because the world keeps changing. And you can do anything and say anything and still be President as long as you kowtow to the wants of the fearful. |
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Post by secondlife on Nov 9, 2016 13:45:12 GMT
I told my 8yo that it is up to us to live our values in the world when our elected officials don't.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Nov 9, 2016 13:55:45 GMT
Good luck w/that. Now kids can see that you can talk about p***y grabbing and mocking the disabled and still be President. I can't believe I'm even wading into this, but.... Since when has the President of the USA determined appropriate behavior? Haven't they pretty much all had mistresses? Do you tell your children adultery is ok? I certainly don't consider myself a "political pea", but some of you are putting way too much responsibility on an imperfect human elected to do a job. He was not elected to parent your children.  |
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Post by melanell on Nov 9, 2016 14:01:57 GMT
I have never in my life taught my kids to behave kindly so that they won't have negative consequences if they are ever hoping to be in a position of prestige. There are countless reasons to behave in a kind and respectful manner and that's why we choose to do so. SaveThe election is teaching them that little matters but the temper tantrum of people who are scared because the world keeps changing. And you can do anything and say anything and still be President as long as you kowtow to the wants of the fearful. The world has always taught my kids different things than I have taught them. I may have a long list of concerns in life, but my kids deciding to follow the behaviors of any elected official, celebrity, etc. are almost nothing. I am sorry that it is a bigger concern to you, though. My bigger concern is teaching my kids that behaviors they see in others do not match our choices and trying to do so in a way that does not teach them to be judgmental of others. Now that, for me, is the tricky part. Save |
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Post by secondlife on Nov 9, 2016 14:05:58 GMT
Good luck w/that. Now kids can see that you can talk about p***y grabbing and mocking the disabled and still be President. I can't believe I'm even wading into this, but.... Since when has the President of the USA determined appropriate behavior? Haven't they pretty much all had mistresses? Do you tell your children adultery is ok? I certainly don't consider myself a "political pea", but some of you are putting way too much responsibility on an imperfect human elected to do a job. He was not elected to parent your children. No, but he was elected to lead this country and that is a role in which values matter - different values than parenting in my opinion but values nonetheless. I feel that some of the important values for a President are inclusiveness, diplomacy, and global savvy. I didn't feel Trump displayed those values in the campaign. Now I just hope he has good handlers and will learn those values right quick. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 14:10:36 GMT
I love how the election of the Donald has caused people to put celebrities and elected officials into the same group, as if they should have anything to do w/one another. The values and examples of elected officials should be held to a higher standard than "celebrities". That people are grouping them together shows just how craven the reality show mentality has gotten in America.
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Post by gritzi on Nov 9, 2016 14:36:14 GMT
My DSs stayed awake much later than regular bedtime & celebrated Trump's win/Hillary's loss.
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Post by carly on Nov 9, 2016 15:07:57 GMT
If I had a child I would probably say "child don't play into the victim game, you are in control of your destiny, only you child can wallow around in self pity or you can be all you want to be".
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Post by kristi on Nov 9, 2016 15:09:47 GMT
My 10 year old is sensitive. He went to a Hillary rally & with me to vote yesterday. Late last night he was crying as trumps numbers were going up.
While I am very concerned and disappointed about the election, I have had to change my mindset for him letting him know that we are fortunate to get to vote, that over 1 million more people voted for Trump & that we will be ok.
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Post by dulcemama on Nov 9, 2016 15:12:57 GMT
I told DD that there were enough people that felt that politics as usual didn't work for them that the need to make a stand against it. I also said that we need to make sure that we continue to live what we believe and to try to be understanding, inclusive and kind. That doesn't mean that we don't stand up for what we believe in but it does mean that we take the time to listen to others and try to find common ground.
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Post by justkat on Nov 9, 2016 16:24:35 GMT
I don't know how we explain this to anyone, child or not. I have a terminal illness, I honestly wasn't this frightened when I received my diagnosis.
One of my best friends is a Marine. He said he doesn't understand how we got here. He said he has been thinking of getting out but now doesn't know what to do. He's served his country for close to 20 years. He's been thinking of getting out, having a civilian career. He's been looking forward to having a more "normal" life. But he says now with Trump in office he's needed more than ever.
My step-son echoes the sentiment in his own way. He's in the Army currently in the Middle East. We spoke with him earlier this morning. He was in tears, said he doesn't know how many more wars he'll be expected to fight now.
My husband is a 22 year Navy veteran. I'm so thankful that he's too old to be recalled.
I wish this were any old election. We could all say it's ok our candidate lost because the winner has the best intentions for our country and it's people. But we've seen that this isn't true, Trump's only concern is Trump. I don't know how to live in a place where evil not only triumphs but is championed.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 9, 2016 16:25:09 GMT
Well we spent some time this morning talking about our system of government, checks and balances and which things the President can and can't do without the support of Congress and the Supreme Court. I didn't say it to them, but I will say it here - this is also why it doesn't matter who is president I don't celebrate the use of executive orders and I support the Senate cloture rules. Our system was designed to move slowly and includes several mechanisms to protect the minority voices. If nothing else, I hope this election encourages other people to hesitate in advocating circumventing those "obstructionist" moves when their party is in power - the political pendulum always swings and I'm pretty sure a whole lot of people are hoping for some "obstructionist" moves in the next few years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 2:31:51 GMT
I don't know how we explain this to anyone, child or not. I have a terminal illness, I honestly wasn't this frightened when I received my diagnosis. I am so sorry. Hang in there. I dread the return of "pre-existing conditions" and "lifetime maximums". |
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Post by rickmer on Nov 10, 2016 2:44:23 GMT
Since when has the President of the USA determined appropriate behavior? Haven't they pretty much all had mistresses? Do you tell your children adultery is ok? I certainly don't consider myself a "political pea", but some of you are putting way too much responsibility on an imperfect human elected to do a job. He was not elected to parent your children. yes, some past presidents have had mistresses. and also seemed to have enough sense to actually want to keep their "dirty little secret" an actual secret. i don't think a what happens in anyone else's marriage is a voter's business. this guy *flaunts* how he doesn't need to conform to society's views of acceptable behaviour (you know, basic ones like "respect one another"). i did see the map of the country regarding how the 18-25 year olds voted... almost an entire country of blue. i have hope - they are the future. |
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Post by NanaKate on Nov 10, 2016 2:51:06 GMT
I am surprised that some of you have such young children that are so in the know regarding the election and politics in general that there is a concern about what to tell them regarding the outcome of the election.
I have a 6 year old grandson who is a pretty sharp little guy and while I am sure he has heard the names Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, I don't think he understands enough to be upset about President-elect Trump's win...
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 10, 2016 2:52:59 GMT
I am surprised that some of you have such young children that are so in the know regarding the election and politics in general that there is a concern about what to tell them regarding the outcome of the election. I have a 6 year old grandson who is a pretty sharp little guy and while I am sure he has heard the names Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, I don't think he understands enough to be upset about President-elect Trump's win... I think it's pretty obvious that these children are mimicing the hysteria of their parents. |
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Post by NanaKate on Nov 10, 2016 2:57:12 GMT
I think it's pretty obvious that these children are mimicing the hysteria of their parents. Bingo! |
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 10, 2016 3:00:17 GMT
I am surprised that some of you have such young children that are so in the know regarding the election and politics in general that there is a concern about what to tell them regarding the outcome of the election. I have a 6 year old grandson who is a pretty sharp little guy and while I am sure he has heard the names Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, I don't think he understands enough to be upset about President-elect Trump's win... Well you'd be surprised what kids pick up on the bus, at school, around the dinner table when older siblings are discussing issues etc. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 10, 2016 3:01:19 GMT
Yes, and what they pick up on the bus and school is the hysteria of the other kids' parents.
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 10, 2016 3:02:18 GMT
I think it's pretty obvious that these children are mimicing the hysteria of their parents. Bingo! Being upset that half the electorate put a racist sexual predator in the White House isn't hysteria. No one is pulling out their hair or immolating themselves here. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 3:03:09 GMT
Kind of like how the tea partiers' kids picked up tea partiers hatred of Obama for the past 8 years while they called him a non-citizen, a thief and a monkey. Kind of like that and that? |
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 10, 2016 3:03:20 GMT
Yes, and what they pick up on the bus and school is the hysteria of the other kids' parents. Eh the 8 year old shrieking and laughing this morning at the bus stop "hahaha the girl lost" wasn't really hysteria IMO. Just a brat. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 10, 2016 3:04:44 GMT
In that instance, yes. But most of the wailing "what will I tell my kids" is nothing more than parental hysteria that is transferred to the kids.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 10, 2016 3:06:03 GMT
Being upset that half the electorate put a racist sexual predator in the White House isn't hysteria. No one is pulling out their hair or immolating themselves here. The level of name calling by someone who professes to be "tolerant" leaves you with no credibility. You sound like a sore loser. Period. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 10, 2016 3:09:18 GMT
My first grader said they talked about it in class at school. They even held a mini mock election. Their teacher won by two votes.  I was surprised by how much she remembered, including the three branches of government and the names of the two candidates. DH and I barely talked about the election, and when we did it was after our kid was in bed. She saw plenty of political ads on tv though when the 5-6 pm news was on (we don't really watch much network tv otherwise). |
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Post by freebird on Nov 10, 2016 3:38:24 GMT
When my kids were young, I didn't let them get so personally involved in something that had absolutely zero control over. And when my guy lost (and they did), I didn't cry mass hysteria and get my kids riled up.
That's how I would handle it.
"Mom, I'm upset about the election."
"Don't worry about it. It's an adult decision, and when you get older you'll have a voice in what happens."
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Post by *leslie* on Nov 10, 2016 3:49:13 GMT
I am surprised that some of you have such young children that are so in the know regarding the election and politics in general that there is a concern about what to tell them regarding the outcome of the election. I have a 6 year old grandson who is a pretty sharp little guy and while I am sure he has heard the names Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, I don't think he understands enough to be upset about President-elect Trump's win... I think it's pretty obvious that these children are mimicing the hysteria of their parents. Yeah, I'm wondering what the heck are these parents telling their children to frighten them to the point of tears. I had relatives that did this type of thing when I was young. Scared the shit out of me and my brother. We still talk about it how it scared the both of us. Oh and we are still here. The world didn't end. That's why I roll my eyes at this drama. |
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I was surprised by how much she remembered, including the three branches of government and the names of the two candidates. DH and I barely talked about the election, and when we did it was after our kid was in bed. She saw plenty of political ads on tv though when the 5-6 pm news was on (we don't really watch much network tv otherwise).
