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Post by Anita on Nov 11, 2016 15:52:32 GMT
Do you think Ivana and Marla are feeling like they dodged a bullet, or do you think they are ticked that they missed out?
And for the record, I have high hopes for Melania. I hope she can do some good work on her anti-bullying campaign. I wish her no ill will.
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Post by iluvpink on Nov 11, 2016 15:54:47 GMT
I really have no idea. But it's hard for me to imagine, as I would never in a million years want to be First Lady or in any position in the spotlight. Being famous would be a nightmare to me.
Now rich? I would love to be rich. Just not at all famous.
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Post by annabella on Nov 11, 2016 16:38:33 GMT
I totally think they think they missed out! I would love to be the first lady, you have the wardrobe, personal hairdresser who travels with you, cook who can keep you slim, fancy parties, an agenda you work on. You're not doing this by yourself, you have a staff that makes you look and act your best. You're basically a well liked, non-controversial celebrity.
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Post by snowsilver on Nov 11, 2016 16:48:56 GMT
Thank you, Anita, for being willing to give Melania a chance. I think we may be surprised at her. I've watched a couple interviews (one in particular where Larry King interviewed her and Donald right after the wedding) and I was truly surprised at her grit. I had, up to then, considered her basically a trophy wife. But after that I definitely don't think so. I think we may do some criticizing of her spending habits. After watching that interview, it was pretty clear she loves beautiful things and has no problem purchasing them. She DID point out that she has no interest in the latest styles--using as an example the fact that she never goes out and purchases the latest and greatest new purse only to have it stashed away in the closet somewhere after the next great style comes out. But their wedding cost a FORTUNE and she was completely unapologetic about that.
In that interview it came out that she is actually rather good friends with Marla which I thought was interesting.
Not sure how Marla or Ivana are feeling. I do know they supported Trump for President and he still maintains a a very good relationship with them and remains fond of both of them. Really--I wonder, like you, if they don't feel a little bit of "well it could have been"
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 11, 2016 17:06:35 GMT
I think the idea that First Lady's are well liked and non-controversial laughable. I'm sorry, but most First Lady's are put through the wringer. I have no clue what Marla or Ivana are thinking. I predict Melania will tear up the expectation that the First Lady can only wear American designers. I wish her well and imagine she's going to be spending the next 4 years trying to protect Barron (Baron?). I detest people who criticize the President's children - whatever letter after their name.
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Post by perumbula on Nov 11, 2016 17:47:33 GMT
It might be fun to be First Lady, but then they'd have to have stayed married to Donald Trump longer. I think they got the better deal.
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Post by Anita on Nov 11, 2016 17:54:38 GMT
I think the idea that First Lady's are well liked and non-controversial laughable. I'm sorry, but most First Lady's are put through the wringer. I have no clue what Marla or Ivana are thinking. I predict Melania will tear up the expectation that the First Lady can only wear American designers. I wish her well and imagine she's going to be spending the next 4 years trying to protect Barron (Baron?). I detest people who criticize the President's children - whatever letter after their name. Well, actually, I just meant that my post wasn't meant to be controversial, not that First Ladies are or aren't - that's on them. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) I agree with leaving the children out of it. They are innocent parties and should be left out of it.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 11, 2016 18:31:50 GMT
I think the idea that First Lady's are well liked and non-controversial laughable. I'm sorry, but most First Lady's are put through the wringer. I have no clue what Marla or Ivana are thinking. I predict Melania will tear up the expectation that the First Lady can only wear American designers. I wish her well and imagine she's going to be spending the next 4 years trying to protect Barron (Baron?). I detest people who criticize the President's children - whatever letter after their name. Well, actually, I just meant that my post wasn't meant to be controversial, not that First Ladies are or aren't - that's on them. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) I agree with leaving the children out of it. They are innocent parties and should be left out of it. Sorry for any confusion. Annabelle had said that first ladies had it lucky as they're well liked and non-controversial. That's what I was responding to not the your thread topic!
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Nov 11, 2016 18:46:56 GMT
I totally think they think they missed out! I would love to be the first lady, you have the wardrobe, personal hairdresser who travels with you, cook who can keep you slim, fancy parties, an agenda you work on. You're not doing this by yourself, you have a staff that makes you look and act your best. You're basically a well liked, non-controversial celebrity. Melania already has all of that. To me, she looks like a very reluctant first lady.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 11, 2016 18:50:31 GMT
I think Marla would have been a pretty likable Flotus. she has that southern charm that reminds me of Laura Bush.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 11, 2016 19:21:16 GMT
I think they are probably happy that they are no longer married to him, (like most women who are no longer married to men for whatever reason).
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Post by Tamhugh on Nov 11, 2016 20:22:24 GMT
I think that Melania often looks uncomfortable in the spotlight so I feel kind of bad for her. I don't think it will be easy for her. I hope that she is able to keep her young son out of the limelight as much as possible.
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Post by bay63 on Nov 11, 2016 20:44:07 GMT
Do you think Ivana and Marla are feeling like they dodged a bullet, or do you think they are ticked that they missed out? hehehe I was wondering what Ivana was thinking.
I wonder if she will be invited to the White House.
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Post by paperaddictedpea on Nov 11, 2016 20:50:12 GMT
To me, she looks like a very reluctant first lady. This is my impression as well. From what I observed during the campaign she seems to prefer to maintain a low profile and devote herself to her son. I do wish her the best.
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Post by annabella on Nov 11, 2016 20:55:26 GMT
I wonder if she will be invited to the White House. I totally think they'll come for some party. After all their kids will be in attendance as well. NY Daily News
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 22:30:04 GMT
I think they dodged a bullet. That sounds like the worst job ever. I hate people fussing over me. I'd hate having to be "on" all the time and having to talk to people all day. Sounds like a miserable life to me.
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Post by pjaye on Nov 11, 2016 22:44:00 GMT
I'm honestly not 'starting' something here...it's simply an observation/commentary.
From an outsider perspective the office of the American president has always been held by people who are so traditional- male, married, white (except one), no divorces or anything, Christian, have children. Then suddenly you've got this man who's been married three times (has publically had affairs) and you have a first lady who is foreign born. That's a massive shift from the short of families who have been there before.
The position of First lady isn't going to look like what you've been used to all these years.
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Post by annabella on Nov 11, 2016 23:20:23 GMT
Here's an interesting article that says that his daughter Ivanka really ran the role his wife should have in his campaign. It looks like she was hesitant, she already has it all. Another article said she is hesitant to talk in public because of her accent. Heidi Klum just got rid of her accent, I assume after years of online bashing from her hosting Project Runway, so anything is possible. I read another quote that said asked if Melania would change anything about Donald and she said his tweeting. The reason her eyes are so small is because of injectable fillers in her face. A rare normal pic of her. ![](http://media.salon.com/2016/08/trump_knauss.jpg)
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 12, 2016 15:22:54 GMT
I'm honestly not 'starting' something here...it's simply an observation/commentary. From an outsider perspective the office of the American president has always been held by people who are so traditional- male, married, white (except one), no divorces or anything, Christian, have children. Then suddenly you've got this man who's been married three times (has publically had affairs) and you have a first lady who is foreign born. That's a massive shift from the short of families who have been there before. The position of First lady isn't going to look like what you've been used to all these years. Donald Trump isn't our first divorced president. We've had a few who never married and a couple widowers who had to have someone else "serve" as first lady. I think a half a dozen who never children. I don't think we've had a foreign born first lady in a modern history, but I don't actually see why that would be significantly different. There's a pretty large range in how the first lady role has been even in the last 50 years.
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Post by monklady123 on Nov 12, 2016 16:41:09 GMT
I totally think they think they missed out! I would love to be the first lady, you have the wardrobe, personal hairdresser who travels with you, cook who can keep you slim, fancy parties, an agenda you work on. You're not doing this by yourself, you have a staff that makes you look and act your best. You're basically a well liked, non-controversial celebrity. Melania already has all of that. To me, she looks like a very reluctant first lady. I was thinking the same thing. She has all that now, but when she moves in to the White House she'll be basically a prisoner. Oh sure, she can go out but never without a whole gaggle of Secret Service people following her around. That whole thing is even worse for children. Can you imagine being a teenager and your parent is the president? ![:crazy:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/G0Qxztyjs53n1ic_fEBG.jpg) I'm sure that she probably didn't totally walk around alone before the campaign started. But she had much more freedom than she has now. I'm with whoever up-thread said they'd hate to be famous.
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Post by disneypal on Nov 12, 2016 17:23:26 GMT
Do you think Ivana and Marla are feeling like they dodged a bullet, or do you think they are ticked that they missed out? I think they don't look at it that way - they just see him as an ex husband - just like any other woman views her ex.
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Post by psoccer on Nov 12, 2016 20:36:51 GMT
That is so funny...I was just thinking the same thought a couple of hours earlier, like if Ivana or Marla were feeling that they missed out. I think Ivana liked the limelight, I remember seeing her photographs often when she was married to Trump.
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Post by anxiousmom on Nov 12, 2016 20:49:17 GMT
Do you think Ivana and Marla are feeling like they dodged a bullet, or do you think they are ticked that they missed out? I think they don't look at it that way - they just see him as an ex husband - just like any other woman views her ex. On a much, much smaller scale my exhusband now has an affluence that we did not enjoy while we were married. From time to time I look at what he has access to now that I can't even dream about. Then I consider the trade off and realize that bigger bank account is totally not worth it. lol
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 13, 2016 0:36:45 GMT
I'd rather have my toes removed with a rusty wrench than be First Lady. No, not my toenails. My toes.
All those functions ad nauseum (lunches, teas, pinning badges on Girl Scouts, making awkward small talk with the wife of the president of East Timor).
AND the stress of always having to say/do/wear the exact right thing or be castigated by millions. AND those pesky secret service agents. AND trying to raise a kid in the White House. Ugh.
I agree with others that Melania seems reluctant. And it's too bad she's self-conscious about her accent. That can't help matters.
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Post by pjaye on Nov 13, 2016 1:05:03 GMT
Donald Trump isn't our first divorced president. We've had a few who never married and a couple widowers who had to have someone else "serve" as first lady. I think a half a dozen who never children In your lifetime? because discussing first hand experience of first ladies doesn't actually count if it happened 100 years before you were born. Reagan was divorced...but who else? Who else has been married 3 times? Who out of: didn't have children? All of these Presidents are very similar in terms of the type of family they had and their the types of "family values" they portrayed...at least at the time they were elected. Even though Reagan was divorced his second marriage to Nancy was already long term by the time he was elected. So you said nothing to refute my point and I am still correct in the point I made that this family "will look very different" to what everyone has been used to over the last 5 decades. Since the 1960s - which would cover most of the posters memories of presidents & first ladies there has been no-one even remotely like Trump and his family in the white house before. No 3x married man with children by 3 different women whose last wife is barely older than his oldest son, and a first lady who is foreign born and with a strong accent. Nice try, but you honestly can't think that you've had other presidents & first ladies who "are just like Trump & Melania" .
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Post by pjaye on Nov 13, 2016 1:06:52 GMT
And it's too bad she's self-conscious about her accent. That can't help matters I'd probably be self conscious about my accent of my husband was constantly banging on about foreigners and "bad hombres" and getting them out of his country.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 13, 2016 1:30:31 GMT
Donald Trump isn't our first divorced president. We've had a few who never married and a couple widowers who had to have someone else "serve" as first lady. I think a half a dozen who never children In your lifetime? because discussing first hand experience of first ladies doesn't actually count if it happened 100 years before you were born. Reagan was divorced...but who else? Who else has been married 3 times? Who out of: didn't have children? All of these Presidents are very similar in terms of the type of family they had and their the types of "family values" they portrayed...at least at the time they were elected. Even though Reagan was divorced his second marriage to Nancy was already long term by the time he was elected. So you said nothing to refute my point and I am still correct in the point I made that this family "will look very different" to what everyone has been used to over the last 5 decades. Since the 1960s - which would cover most of the posters memories of presidents & first ladies there has been no-one even remotely like Trump and his family in the white house before. No 3x married man with children by 3 different women whose last wife is barely older than his oldest son, and a first lady who is foreign born and with a strong accent. Nice try, but you honestly can't think that you've had other presidents & first ladies who "are just like Trump & Melania" . Holy hell - who the hell cares. Over invested much. I don't really see a our new first lady having an accent as a big deal. Of all the things to over analyze.
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Post by melanell on Nov 13, 2016 1:46:11 GMT
If it were me (and this would be true no matter who the man in question was), I would be extremely relieved to have dodged that bullet. I would not want to be a First Lady. I commend all of those who wind up in that position for any and all good that they do, though. Anti-bullying is certainly a worthwhile cause in my opinion, so I truly hope Melania can make a positive difference in some way or another. Save
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Post by pjaye on Nov 13, 2016 1:48:14 GMT
Holy hell - who the hell cares. lol - clearly you do if you get so upset about being proven wrong. You're the one started the conversation with me and chose to quote me and tell me I'm wrong and that you've had "lots of divorced and unmarried presidents" I'm backing up my original comments. But I'll try your way of discussing a point next time and I'll quote you and put "holy hell who cares?" after your posts and then you can get all butt hurt and hair flip out of here just like your friends because the anti Trump people are being "so mean" ![](http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r481/2peasrefugees/Smilies/crying.jpg.gif)
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Post by ahiller on Nov 13, 2016 1:49:56 GMT
I think the idea that First Lady's are well liked and non-controversial laughable. I'm sorry, but most First Lady's are put through the wringer. I have no clue what Marla or Ivana are thinking. I predict Melania will tear up the expectation that the First Lady can only wear American designers. I wish her well and imagine she's going to be spending the next 4 years trying to protect Barron (Baron?). I detest people who criticize the President's children - whatever letter after their name. Well, actually, I just meant that my post wasn't meant to be controversial, not that First Ladies are or aren't - that's on them. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) I agree with leaving the children out of it. They are innocent parties and should be left out of it. I felt bad for Barron on election night. The poor kid looked so uncomfortable to be standing there (or maybe was just exhausted?). It's got to be tough to have your first campaign event be your father's acceptance speech. I think Melania will be fine. Whether she is reluctant or not, too late now. I do think taking on social media bullying as her "issue" is a bit silly considering her husband's twitter account but to each their own, I guess.
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