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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 15:31:41 GMT
Call this my hairflip if you want to.
I haven't been near as active here as I was on the old pea board but the time has come to stop completely. The level of ugliness against anyone who dares to have a conservative thought is all I can take. Anyone who knows me at all knows that I am not (insert any insult here) but I am completely fed up with conservatives being called names because they dare to think differently than the herd here.
So have at it.
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Post by Merge on Nov 12, 2016 15:39:17 GMT
But, but, liberals are supposed to be the weenies here because we're concerned and upset about the potential erosion of people's basic civil rights.
You're telling me conservatives can be run off just by being called names?
You voted for the man, own it. Liberals have dealt with eight years of immense disrespect directed toward us and our administration. Sticks and stones and all that.
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Post by missmiss on Nov 12, 2016 15:42:09 GMT
So you are saying you don't like name calling?
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Post by LeaP on Nov 12, 2016 15:42:32 GMT
Scroll, scroll, scroll! This too shall pass.
If you go elsewhere how will you ever learn about merkins and diva cups?
Please don't go.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:12:17 GMT
But, but, liberals are supposed to be the weenies here because we're concerned and upset about the potential erosion of people's basic civil rights. You're telling me conservatives can be run off just by being called names? You voted for the man, own it. Liberals have dealt with eight years of immense disrespect directed toward us and our administration. Sticks and stones and all that. So Trump is the devil incarnate because he insults, degrades, calls people names and bullies them, yet here on this board, the left seems to take great glee in being a bully, calling people names etc. Dare I say it again...HYPOCRISY. You simply need to look in the mirror to see the very thing you hate so much about Trump. I know Obama has been (sometimes mercilessly) bashed for more than 8 yrs. And while I think there have probably been some personal attacks directed at people here, I don't recall it being as rabid as it is now. IMO, there's a difference between the left attacking, insulting, degrading, and disrespecting TRUMP and/or his policies. But look at what you're doing to people here and the way you're treating people. People who are very much like you, with the exception of having a belief in our government that differs from your own. We all make dinner for our family, drive the kids to school, and wait patiently while they're at soccer practice or piano lessons. IMO, there's no excuse to be personally attacking other members here. I wish the admin would focus on some of this nonsense here.
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Post by gar on Nov 12, 2016 16:15:48 GMT
Why not just leave, why the need to announce it?
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Post by monklady123 on Nov 12, 2016 16:22:43 GMT
Why not just leave, why the need to announce it? Because you don't get the same dramatic effect that way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:22:45 GMT
Why not just leave, why the need to announce it? You get more attention with an announcement!
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Post by paget on Nov 12, 2016 16:23:19 GMT
I'm sorry Wildcat mom, I'll miss you. I know exactly how you feel because I am in the same boat. I'm <<<this close>>> myself. I think I'll just spend some time on other things these week and then peek in again and see if some ugliness has died down. It's really unfortunate that some people can't see what they are doing here and how intolerant, immature, and mean they are being. It's mind boggling, really. The response posts to a long time member leaving are even so rude it saddens me. Maybe y'all need to pay attention to Melania's anti bullying platform. And my post too will probably be met with more of the same. I've been here 17 years. Sure, I can skip the "bad" stuff but not only is most of it bad right now, there's just an underlying current of ugliness that my "friends" no longer like me and don't care to really know me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:24:04 GMT
Why not just leave, why the need to announce it? Because you don't get the same dramatic effect that way. Please continue to talk about her. It does appear she's already gone...look at her post count.
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Nov 12, 2016 16:24:32 GMT
Scroll, scroll, scroll! This too shall pass. If you go elsewhere how will you ever learn about merkins and diva cups? Please don't go. That. I don't think the people who voted for Trump are bad people at all.. I think everyone is trying to do what they think is best, and we're never going to all agree with what "best" is. For the record, I think Trump is a misogynistic pig and I hate that he's the face for America right now. But I won't degrade the people who voted for him and will continue to hope that things will be okay. What's bad today will be gone tomorrow. I sometimes read the dramatic posts, but I have learned.. do NOT engage. Just avoid it. As much bad as there is, there is an equal amount of good.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:27:17 GMT
I'm sorry Wildcat mom, I'll miss you. I know exactly how you feel because I am in the same boat. I'm <<<this close>>> myself. I think I'll just spend some time on other things these week and then peek in again and see if some ugliness has died down. It's really unfortunate that some people can't see what they are doing here and how intolerant, immature, and mean they are being. It's mind boggling, really. The response posts to a long time member leaving are even so rude it saddens me. Maybe y'all need to pay attention to Melania's anti bullying platform. And my post too will probably be met with more of the same. I've been here 17 years. Sure, I can skip the "bad" stuff but not only is most of it bad right now, there's just an underlying current of ugliness that my "friends" no longer like me and don't care to really know me. Maybe more who disagree with them will leave and then they'll have the whole board to themselves and there will never be dialogue. How fun can it be to surround yourself only with those who are in full agreement with you?
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Post by gar on Nov 12, 2016 16:28:17 GMT
Because you don't get the same dramatic effect that way. Please continue to talk about her. It does appear she's already gone...look at her post count. Yup, saw that but just wanted to voice the thought.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:29:09 GMT
Please continue to talk about her. It does appear she's already gone...look at her post count. Yup, saw that but just wanted to voice the thought. Of course you did.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:29:51 GMT
Well done, tolerant, inclusive Peas!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:29:52 GMT
Scroll, scroll, scroll! This too shall pass. If you go elsewhere how will you ever learn about merkins and diva cups? Please don't go. That. I don't think the people who voted for Trump are bad people at all.. I think everyone is trying to do what they think is best, and we're never going to all agree with what "best" is. For the record, I think Trump is a misogynistic pig and I hate that he's the face for America right now. But I won't degrade the people who voted for him and will continue to hope that things will be okay. What's bad today will be gone tomorrow. I sometimes read the dramatic posts, but I have learned.. do NOT engage. Just avoid it. As much bad as there is, there is an equal amount of good. Thank you for that.
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 12, 2016 16:32:19 GMT
You personally know who she voted for?
I don't.
I'm pretty sure she's allowed to keep that information to herself and is under no obligation to disclose it here or anywhere.
Something about it being her right.....
ETA - Sorry, It attributed the quote to the wrong person the first time.
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Post by monklady123 on Nov 12, 2016 16:32:26 GMT
But, but, liberals are supposed to be the weenies here because we're concerned and upset about the potential erosion of people's basic civil rights. You're telling me conservatives can be run off just by being called names? You voted for the man, own it. Liberals have dealt with eight years of immense disrespect directed toward us and our administration. Sticks and stones and all that. So Trump is the devil incarnate because he insults, degrades, calls people names and bullies them, yet here on this board, the left seems to take great glee in being a bully, calling people names etc. Dare I say it again...HYPOCRISY. You simply need to look in the mirror to see the very thing you hate so much about Trump. I know Obama has been (sometimes mercilessly) bashed for more than 8 yrs. And while I think there have probably been some personal attacks directed at people here, I don't recall it being as rabid as it is now. IMO, there's a difference between the left attacking, insulting, degrading, and disrespecting TRUMP and/or his policies. But look at what you're doing to people here and the way you're treating people. People who are very much like you, with the exception of having a belief in our government that differs from your own. We all make dinner for our family, drive the kids to school, and wait patiently while they're at soccer practice or piano lessons. IMO, there's no excuse to be personally attacking other members here. I wish the admin would focus on some of this nonsense here. Not true of course. What you and others seem to be missing -- what I've said several times already and I guess I'll be saying a lot over the next four years -- is that it's not the REPUBLICAN winning that has us all upset. If an ordinary Republican had won we would be sad of course, as is always the case with whichever side loses, but then we would move on as we always do in this country. No, it's the fact that TRUMP won. Leaving aside everything else that he's said, one that really upsets me is the one caught on that audio where he says he can grab women by their private parts and they "let" him, and he can do it because he's a star. This is such an abuse of power. Yes, Bill Clinton abused that power also. And if we'd known that about him before the election, specific incidents, then I wouldn't have voted for him either. Because this is the OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT that we're talking about here. The president needs to be held to a higher standard even, never mind an ordinary standard of common decency. So this is why we're so upset. And this is why we cannot understand people who seem to have overlooked that aspect of Trump to vote for him. Especially the same people who have been saying "there's no class in the White House" for eight years. None of them were ever able to articulate exactly why President and Michelle Obama had "no class". Unless we have a totally different definition of "class", mine does not include grabbing women (or men) by their private parts.
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Post by MaryMary on Nov 12, 2016 16:32:48 GMT
I'm sorry that you feel this way, or that any conservative on this board feels this way. This election cycle was the most divisive one that I can remember and the feelings of disappointment are still very fresh. It will settle down. I don't know how soon, but it will. I hope you will reconsider and come back when things have returned to normal.
I have a lot of loved ones that voted Trump and I know that not all Trump supporters are what some on my side are claiming. I'm sorry if you've had some of our disappointment directed at you. Honestly, I am.
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Post by gar on Nov 12, 2016 16:34:29 GMT
Yup, saw that but just wanted to voice the thought. Of course you did. ?? Why would I bother lying about something so unimportant? And just because her acc is closed doesn't mean she isn't reading.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:35:48 GMT
So Trump is the devil incarnate because he insults, degrades, calls people names and bullies them, yet here on this board, the left seems to take great glee in being a bully, calling people names etc. Dare I say it again...HYPOCRISY. You simply need to look in the mirror to see the very thing you hate so much about Trump. I know Obama has been (sometimes mercilessly) bashed for more than 8 yrs. And while I think there have probably been some personal attacks directed at people here, I don't recall it being as rabid as it is now. IMO, there's a difference between the left attacking, insulting, degrading, and disrespecting TRUMP and/or his policies. But look at what you're doing to people here and the way you're treating people. People who are very much like you, with the exception of having a belief in our government that differs from your own. We all make dinner for our family, drive the kids to school, and wait patiently while they're at soccer practice or piano lessons. IMO, there's no excuse to be personally attacking other members here. I wish the admin would focus on some of this nonsense here. Not true of course. What you and others seem to be missing -- what I've said several times already and I guess I'll be saying a lot over the next four years -- is that it's not the REPUBLICAN winning that has us all upset. If an ordinary Republican had won we would be sad of course, as is always the case with whichever side loses, but then we would move on as we always do in this country. No, it's the fact that TRUMP won. Leaving aside everything else that he's said, one that really upsets me is the one caught on that audio where he says he can grab women by their private parts and they "let" him, and he can do it because he's a star. This is such an abuse of power. Yes, Bill Clinton abused that power also. And if we'd known that about him before the election, specific incidents, then I wouldn't have voted for him either. Because this is the OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT that we're talking about here. The president needs to be held to a higher standard even, never mind an ordinary standard of common decency. So this is why we're so upset. And this is why we cannot understand people who seem to have overlooked that aspect of Trump to vote for him. Especially the same people who have been saying "there's no class in the White House" for eight years. None of them were ever able to articulate exactly why President and Michelle Obama had "no class". Unless we have a totally different definition of "class", mine does not include grabbing women (or men) by their private parts. And I don't understand how you could vote for someone who plays so fast and loose with our national security. Both candidates were majorly flawed...but you're so focused on Trump's flaws that you're completely unable to understand that as strongly as you felt about Trump's flaws, nearly the same amount of American voters felt the same about Clinton and her flaws. But I've said this about 100 times. I could say it 1,000 more times and people on the left would still be so shocked that anyone could dare vote for Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:36:02 GMT
I do not believe that all those who voted for Trump are racist misogynist. I believe that many those who voted for Trump believe they can swallow racist misogyny in the name of putting their own interests ahead of larger principles.
And those interests are about to get played. Just like they always do when it comes to the 1% sharing w/anyone other than other 1%ers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:36:56 GMT
?? Why would I bother lying about something so unimportant? And just because her acc is closed doesn't mean she isn't reading. My point was, you just HAD to get your last dig in...in hopes that she's reading. You're awesome.
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 12, 2016 16:37:37 GMT
Why not just leave, why the need to announce it? Because liberals are not the only ones with feelings. Liberals are not the only ones who don't feel safe.
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Post by betty on Nov 12, 2016 16:38:09 GMT
Maybe more who disagree with them will leave and then they'll have the whole board to themselves and there will never be dialogue. How fun can it be to surround yourself only with those who are in full agreement with you? Yep, the echo chamber that started around convention time seems to be returning with the banning of peas and the ugliness directed at conservative peas this week.
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Post by gar on Nov 12, 2016 16:38:16 GMT
?? Why would I bother lying about something so unimportant? And just because her acc is closed doesn't mean she isn't reading. My point was, you just HAD to get your last dig in...in hopes that she's reading. You're awesome. Okey doke! Thanks!
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 12, 2016 16:38:50 GMT
I understand why you are leaving except I disagree with you on one thing. Both sides have been nasty. It seems like they take turns at who is going to be the worst. I know I've got passionate at times and I'm not going to say I've never offended anyone on a political thread. Sometimes just voting for the other person is offensive. You cannot win. This board is quite useless for any meaningful political discussion once a thread gets past page two. The most vile one sided people always derail a thread.
There's an amazing feature on this board though that I use frequently. When you see a political thread select it, go to the Action tab with the drop down area and choose Mark as read forever. The threads do pop up to the top of the board when there's a new post, but you no longer see new. It's a great help!
The privacy features are great as well. You can block people's posts and if they are particularly nasty, you can block reading threads they have started. I know I've personally been baited by people on *both* sides who are nasty and then they play "nice". They start a fluff thread and go back to being their true selves. I'd love this place even more if you could just hide threads (even non political that I have zero interest in), but that is not available.
Also, please, please, please start threads! Bookmark them and keep them at the top by continuing to participate.
ETA: I was slow in typing my response. Wildcatmom was one of the conservative peas that I thought could carry on a civil conversation without being mean.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:40:34 GMT
I do not believe that all those who voted for Trump are racist misogynist. I believe that many those who voted for Trump believe they can swallow racist misogyny in the name of putting their own interests ahead of larger principles. And those interests are about to get played. Just like they always do when it comes to the 1% sharing w/anyone other than other 1%ers. And don't forget, the Clinton's are also in the top 1% and we already knew she was in bed with Wall Street. No difference.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 16:41:57 GMT
Why not just leave, why the need to announce it? In other words, "Don't let the door hit ya..." Because maybe she hoped people would give one last thought to how they're coming across. Because maybe she hoped that if they did, things might become more friendly for others who choose to stay in what they feel has become a hostile environment. Maybe it was just her way of expressing sadness at the end of what has been a long-time Pea association. She was a long-time Pea who was never overtly nasty or controversial (that I recall.) But I guess the new normal is that if someone even gives the appearance of having voted for Trump, we don't have to be nice to them because they've ruined the world. Save
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 12, 2016 16:42:11 GMT
I'm sorry Wildcat mom, I'll miss you. I know exactly how you feel because I am in the same boat. I'm <<<this close>>> myself. I think I'll just spend some time on other things these week and then peek in again and see if some ugliness has died down. It's really unfortunate that some people can't see what they are doing here and how intolerant, immature, and mean they are being. It's mind boggling, really. The response posts to a long time member leaving are even so rude it saddens me. Maybe y'all need to pay attention to Melania's anti bullying platform. And my post too will probably be met with more of the same. I've been here 17 years. Sure, I can skip the "bad" stuff but not only is most of it bad right now, there's just an underlying current of ugliness that my "friends" no longer like me and don't care to really know me. Maybe more who disagree with them will leave and then they'll have the whole board to themselves and there will never be dialogue. How fun can it be to surround yourself only with those who are in full agreement with you? They'll soon find out if they keep it up. The election was Tuesday. This is Saturday. heavily redacted commentary
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