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Post by freecharlie on Nov 13, 2016 5:50:07 GMT
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Nov 13, 2016 6:02:51 GMT
And if Trump were a member of this board, I would also call for his banning. Oh, he would most definitely screw up the quote feature here. There would be request/s to admin to add a "wrong" button as a shortcut. As I am chiming in, trying to be funny (which got me into trouble as a low post count person on the old board) I had better weigh in on the central issue- I would really miss this board if it went "poof" and I hope all or most of the (refu)Peas stay too. Peace. |
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Post by Mystie on Nov 13, 2016 6:18:40 GMT
The personal attacks that are bothering me the most is the broad brush, ALL WHO VOTED FOR HIM ARE ____________________ and that thread where people said that they truly felt like that. That's what I found so discouraging. Not saying that the individual personal attacks were fine...but that's not really where my mind was when I posted about not being personal attacks. I agree with AmeliaBloomer that that thread was incredibly poorly timed. I don't think the OP intended it that way, but emotions were raw, to say the very least. I responded briefly to that thread and I said that I did believe all Trump supporters were racist, etc etc. I really did feel that way. I felt like I had been punched in the face by half of America. I was also feeling extremely hurt by something my sister-in-law (Trump voter) had posted on FB that morning. So I was bringing a ton of hurt to the board that day. I suspect a lot of people were. I can't speak for anyone else, but I am working very hard on my emotions and my attitude. I have to live in this country with these people, and I have to figure out how to be okay with that. It's human nature to lump whole groups of people into one identical "other." Doesn't make it right, but it's how we operate, unfortunately. And I think it's especially our tendency to turn to that when we are hurt, fearful, threatened, angry. Again, that doesn't make it right. |
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Post by tincin on Nov 13, 2016 6:22:07 GMT
Wildcat mom was the first person to attack me over politics. Because I didn't like Ann Coulter. And so very sweetly suggested that I leave the country if I didn't understand/appreciate the first amendment.
Dish it but can't take it. Republicans chose to put a sexual predator (among other things) in the White House. People are allowed to say what the fuck and draw conclusions from that choice. are you telling the truth here? or lying? or being sarcastic?
that's not an attack. that's giving you an alternative to open politics. and according to your words, 'very sweetly'.
that's the left... Trump gave to them what the left regularly gives to the right... the left sure doesn't like it when it comes TO them.
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Post by tincin on Nov 13, 2016 6:28:44 GMT
Yes, I've been on 2peas since 2001 ( I think-could have been 2000) I most certainly do remember things that were said TO Lauren. I also remember many of the unbelievably hurtful and viscous things SHE has said to others. And not just the really infamous incident. Has she made unbelievable progress since those days? Absolutely. Did she take a hellacious amount of flack for things she hurled at peas over the years? Absolutely. I'm not going to excuse away wrongs on either side. She's just as wrong as anyone who hounds her and anyone who hounds her is just as wrong as she is when she's being mean and nasty. I've come a long way in my opinion of Lauren, and I have tried to engage her respectfully for quite a while now. I do think she probably is a good person. You are defending her behavior from the other night on t this thread* and saying she didn't deserve to be banned, while scolding others for far, far less. That bothers me. And the thing is, I do think Lauren probably is a very nice person who *is* very thin-skinned. I don't know for sure because I haven't met her in person and I haven't seen how she treats and interacts with people in real life. From the way you defend her even when she behaves indefensibly behind her keyboard, I'm guessing you do know her in person. That's great. But it seems very mean-spirited of you to claim that Lauren's ugly behavior can be excused as thin-skinned while peas who have been taunted by Lauren in very cruel, personal and vulgar ways are very often treated condescendingly by you then they themselves get "thin-skinned" and lash back. You'll defend Lauren's lashing back but no one else's? You're ok with her cursing and "vulgarity" when she's "pushed" but not from others when she's doing the pushing? That seems either very hypocritical or very mean/cliqueish to me. And I've seen you behave that selectively before, but was unable to come up with any other names right now than Lauren's. I definitely don't want this to turn into a Lauren bash, because my issue right now is your selective defense of people that you deem worthy of your defense while deriding others for acting the same way as the few you defend. That's kind of the crux of so many issues on the board. It's always been this way, and it's always so much worse during election season. I'm not trying to attack you, just feeling frustrated with your seemingly selective scolding. And I do want to thank you for answering honestly. *there are many more examples on this board where Lauren absolutely is the instigator in the jabs, barbs, and attacks. I haven't read that much on here since the election - a page or 2 of a thread here and 1 there... and I've posted on them. I've read a few of Lauren's posts and even replied. What I saw were liberals attacking her. Her reply posts weren't 'ban' worthy. and very mild. and I agreed with her... so if something she posted was 'ban' worthy, I missed it. OTOH, I do know that over the yrs liberals peas will pop up on a very generic nice post/thread by Lauren and rake up things from many, many yrs back. Shame on them. The libs just don't let up - they've carried it from many yrs ago to present.
If she came back at you with like manner, why be so upset? you dished it out. (that doesn't include anything about anyone's race)
The left doesn't like being pushed against, crossed, told they're wrong etc. And they are very nasty if someone does that. You can read it on online comments, listen to it on the liberal media (about anything 'named' with letters). you even hear it on Fox when they 'balance' their panels with a dem. They had an adult female dem on earlier (Cookie?) who was crying and said she was hung over... That is what people around the world are seeing and hearing. that's what our youth hear also.
Trump just gives it right back to them. It's like the libs are having to hear themselves when he talks, and they don't like it.
It seems like soon, the liberals on 2ps can probably just sing to their own choir. If someone dares to post who isn't a lib, you can all just beat'm up with nasty names and go back to singing again.
I post on other forums mostly. 1 I've been on for 6 yrs or so. After the election, 1 person posted a not nice 1 line about Trump. The forum went silent for about 24hrs and then 1 or 2 (me included) posted back a few lines that made it clear we didn't agree. And then the forum went silent again for a few days. We don't post about politics there. Someone did. Others let it be known not to do that. No one responded with a bad word or name calling.
Hilarious considering the source. Yes, it's only the kind that fight back. Do you write fiction often? Or is this a new genre for you. |
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 13, 2016 6:51:38 GMT
I can't speak for anyone else, but I am working very hard on my emotions and my attitude. I have to live in this country with these people, and I have to figure out how to be okay with that. It's human nature to lump whole groups of people into one identical "other." Doesn't make it right, but it's how we operate, unfortunately. And I think it's especially our tendency to turn to that when we are hurt, fearful, threatened, angry. Again, that doesn't make it right. Mystie, your better nature is fantastic. I trust it implicitly. "These people" are every other person in the country. You are a reasonable person and sooner (rather than later) that reasoning is going to kick in and you will have a much healthier perspective. It's either that, or this will change you at a fundamental level. If that happens, I think you'd get absolutely pissed and fight it off until you had a much healthier perspective again. Take heart, my friend. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 13, 2016 8:14:40 GMT
I've been staying away until the dust settled. I'm a conservative. I've felt a bit unmoored this election with no party to support.
This thread has been a nice change from the past few days. I took the OP as not hair flipping, just letting us know she'll be gone and maybe make us look closer at our interactions online.
I was not here for previous election shenanigans so i don't have that history. However, my eyes have been opened to a few peas after the last few days. I'm doing my best to chalk it up to temporary election insanity and we'll all just let it go and get back to a little less viscous NSBR.
As always, i do not keep spreadsheets.
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 13, 2016 8:20:23 GMT
I'm a conservative. I've felt a bit unmoored this election with no party to support. Boy, can I relate to that! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 10:18:11 GMT
I swear she was blue not 10 minutes ago. Lauren has those wierd symbols that I can't find on my iPad, so I wasn't sure I did if right. I guess you got the same result  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 10:51:32 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 13, 2016 11:24:23 GMT
Why is Busypea's name grayed out? What happened?
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Post by gar on Nov 13, 2016 11:28:54 GMT
Why is Busypea's name grayed out? What happened? She's no longer a member. I don't know if it was choice or imposed on her. |
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Post by gar on Nov 13, 2016 11:29:22 GMT
I thought that. Time out, maybe? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 11:33:40 GMT
Why is Busypea's name grayed out? What happened? She's no longer a member. I don't know if it was choice or imposed on her. I think after being called a bitch and accused of lying many of us would choose to leave. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 13, 2016 11:39:38 GMT
Called a bitch? I DID miss something. I am sorry that she left.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 11:41:58 GMT
Called a bitch? I DID miss something. I am sorry that she left. Yes, she was. By one of the very same peas complaining about the meanness on this board. And there's another pea doing the same thing on the where is busypea thread. The hypocrisy is flat out staggering. Save |
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Post by gar on Nov 13, 2016 11:44:25 GMT
She's no longer a member. I don't know if it was choice or imposed on her. I think after being called a bitch and accused of lying many of us would choose to leave. I hadn't seen that. |
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Post by hop2 on Nov 13, 2016 12:22:37 GMT
Why in the world did Carly and Lauren get banned when I am seeing some of the uglier peas on the liberal side still posting??? I am just baffled. Was this a targeted banning due to politics??? I said it in another thread and I'll say it here. Bringing people's children ( grand children ) into the mix has always been that one step too far. You don't agree with it fine, but I'm perfectly fine with that being the final straw as it seems it might be for the admin. Children should be off the table in fights. Its a little hard for me to say for sure because there's several people who aren't around but who ever was mentioned did seem to push that one step too far. It's one thing to be bitchy to each other, to swear etc but it's totally different to start in on children. And look, I'll honestly admit I could easily have gone too far myself, somewhat inadvertently, not exactly about young children but I'll admit I was completely floored here and else where on the internet and irl that there were people old enough to vote who actually thought everything would/could change almost instantly in January 2017. That's not how our government works. I said something here and I know I hurt the feelings of at least one pea saying that. And I truly didn't mean to. i tried to apologize and I think I stuck my foot in my mouth there too. So I shut up on the subject. I'm glad it wasn't anyone's child directly that I was talking about, I'm really sad that I hurt someone's feelings. While how that possibly could happen that people believe that is a topic I'd like to understand further, for me peas feeling are more important, so I'll shut up about it. Apparently it's a subject I'm not capable of having tact with. Wow that got more long winded than I intended |
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Post by hop2 on Nov 13, 2016 12:30:27 GMT
I'm pretty sure she had a time out for that but I can't be positive. As I'm sure many of the 'banned' peas are not out right banned this time but on time outs. I can't be sure but their accounts are still there and I thought they couldn't be when totally banned. |
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 13, 2016 12:31:19 GMT
I think after being called a bitch and accused of lying many of us would choose to leave. I hadn't seen that. It's more than a bit out of context here. The poster said that this was the first and only time she had said such a thing to anyone here and the next poster agreed. She didn't just say it and walk away. She said that Busypea was acting like a bitch and explained why she felt that way. Friend to friend. It's really time some context was put into all of this. |
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Nov 13, 2016 12:47:15 GMT
Why in the world did Carly and Lauren get banned when I am seeing some of the uglier peas on the liberal side still posting??? I am just baffled. Was this a targeted banning due to politics??? I said it in another thread and I'll say it here. Bringing people's children ( grand children ) into the mix has always been that one step too far. You don't agree with it fine, but I'm perfectly fine with that being the final straw as it seems it might be for the admin. Children should be off the table in fights. Its a little hard for me to say for sure because there's several people who aren't around but who ever was mentioned did seem to push that one step too far. It's one thing to be bitchy to each other, to swear etc but it's totally different to start in on children. And look, I'll honestly admit I could easily have gone too far myself, somewhat inadvertently, not exactly about young children but I'll admit I was completely floored here and else where on the internet and irl that there were people old enough to vote who actually thought everything would/could change almost instantly in January 2017. That's not how our government works. I said something here and I know I hurt the feelings of at least one pea saying that. And I truly didn't mean to. i tried to apologize and I think I stuck my foot in my mouth there too. So I shut up on the subject. I'm glad it wasn't anyone's child directly that I was talking about, I'm really sad that I hurt someone's feelings. While how that possibly could happen that people believe that is a topic I'd like to understand further, for me peas feeling are more important, so I'll shut up about it. Apparently it's a subject I'm not capable of having tact with. Wow that got more long winded than I intended Great Spirit. This is what "our" board needs. That is all. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 13:06:26 GMT
It's more than a bit out of context here. The poster said that this was the first and only time she had said such a thing to anyone here and the next poster agreed. She didn't just say it and walk away. She said that Busypea was acting like a bitch and explained why she felt that way. Friend to friend. It's really time some context was put into all of this. Sorry for getting pissy in the last couple of hours. This is my sign that I need to take a temporary step back. yes, I can agree that some context is good in the bitch calling instance. And I'm trying my best to say this in a respectful and non-snarky way, but some context is also needed with at least some of the ban/time-out situations. And I absolutely assert that people are being way too harsh with our Admin. I don't know how she puts up with all of this and she has shown far more maturity and grace than I would have managed if I had been willing to take all this on when 2peas shut down so abruptly. I would also like to once again try to relay in a non-snarky way that some (but definitely not all) of the peas upset and leaving right now have absolutely given as good as they've been getting lately. I will also acknowledge that it's not right on either side. And I will apologize for my part in any of it. I hope we can all go high from here on out and come back together at some point. SaveSave |
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 13, 2016 13:17:58 GMT
It's more than a bit out of context here. The poster said that this was the first and only time she had said such a thing to anyone here and the next poster agreed. She didn't just say it and walk away. She said that Busypea was acting like a bitch and explained why she felt that way. Friend to friend. It's really time some context was put into all of this. Sorry for getting pissy in the last couple of hours. This is my sign that I need to take a temporary step back. yes, I can agree that some context is good in the bitch calling instance. And I'm trying my best to say this in a respectful and non-snarky way, but some context is also needed with at least some of the ban/time-out situations. And I absolutely assert that people are being way too harsh with our Admin. I don't know how she puts up with all of this and she has shown far more maturity and grace than I would have managed if I had been willing to take all this on when 2peas shut down so abruptly. I would also like to once again try to relay in a non-snarky way that some (but definitely not all) of the peas upset and leaving right now have absolutely given as good as they've been getting lately. I will also acknowledge that it's not right on either side. And I will apologize for my part in any of it. I hope we can all go high from here on out and come back together at some point. SaveSaveVery nicely said.. But it's going to take more time. I still can't believe it. Maybe Busypea couldn't quite believe it yet either. This is a real shock. And yes, some of us were too honest about how we felt. So there's that. We should have been more careful. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 13, 2016 13:29:47 GMT
I would've assumed that the left would've been THRILLED with his plan to take a closer look at Obamacare? Are you saying now that you want it repealed and not just fix the biggest things that are the most broken? So he already can't win. I thought him having a change of heart so to speak was very courageous. It means he was willing to listen and take things into consideration vs. ramming through to save his pride on what he promised. And while some on the far right may fault him for that, I think taking a closer look at how ACA can be salvaged vs. immediately repealing it was the right thing to do. Of course we would be thrilled w/a plan to amend Obamacare. That's what Hillary said was needed. But, no, Trump was adamant about "repeal and replace!" and scoffed at the suggestion that it only need amending (as most systems do over time). Exactly! Just proves once again, what a big fat liar, fake, flip flopping unstable, unsure person he is. He was ugly, hateful and over the top awful during the campaign, ruling up his followers with repealing "the huge disaster" of the ACA, among many other things. And it's becoming more apparent that he is a wild card not to be trusted or base any truth or surety to. And, now we have him turning his businesses over to his kids. Not a blind trust. If Hillary would have won and Bill not removed himself from the Clinton foundation, his supporters would have crucified both of them, screamed to the heavens about transparency and burned them at the stake for doing it. It's going to be so interesting watching his supporters here flip flop on everything now, continue with their selective memories and claim he's not so bad. Rest assured it will be the most hypocritical first 6 months-year here. And here especially since the election, the most rabid and vitriolic posters have been non-Hilary supporters--there are a few who have been almost non-stop pounding insulting towards those who supported Hillary. |
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Post by KB on Nov 13, 2016 13:46:17 GMT
Seven pages. This is worse than listening to my mom play bridge  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 14:32:43 GMT
Oh, he would most definitely screw up the quote feature here. There would be request/s to admin to add a "wrong" button as a shortcut. As I am chiming in, trying to be funny (which got me into trouble as a low post count person on the old board) I had better weigh in on the central issue- I would really miss this board if it went "poof" and I hope all or most of the (refu)Peas stay too. Peace. You've been missed |
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Post by compeateropeator on Nov 13, 2016 14:35:39 GMT
And let us not forget Yubon's latest stunt. You just put a Yubon Coffee into the White House. Good fucking job. Next time you want to hand-slap me for ANYTHING I say, you can just shut your fucking pie hole, you ignorant hypocritical cunts. The peas on her awful thread are laughing, encouraging her, giving her high fives for always telling it like it is. Funny how DOnald Trump "tells it like it is" and those very same peas lose their absolute minds. I am not sure why I feel the need to explain myself because it really doesn't matter...but I do. I was one of the ones that laughed, and I truly did laugh out loud. Why? I am not sure that I can explain it, it just hit me as funny. Maybe because it was a perfect analogy. It was spot on and it was unexpected. But I was not high-fiving her or encouraging her. It was like some skit on SNL or comedy routine, it was uncomfortable but i found it funny and I will own that. I have no one on ignore. I do not pass by threads because of who started them. It doesn't matter if they are right, left or center. Many of the comments here make me shake my head, cringe, laugh, cry, sad, angry, happy and whatever other emotions you can come up with. But it is the same in real life. I do not have the expectations that I will only see goodness and light here as much as we want to. There is good, bad and evil in all communities, online or in real life. We are not a homogenous society, and everyday life just confirms that. I am also another who has been reading from the inception of the nsbr 2peas board and posting more recently. The good, bad and ugly has been around since then. There are some people who are not spreadsheet keepers and there are others of us that remember this stuff for what ever reason. I guess I would liken it to a favorite TV show or book series. When you have invested many many years into something or someplace, you know your characters, you remember the fights, you remember the special moments, and remember how things play out...at least I do. It is probably one of the least productive uses of my brain cells besides the thousands and thousands of song lyrics, but what do you do.  |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 13, 2016 15:11:16 GMT
Oh, he would most definitely screw up the quote feature here. There would be request/s to admin to add a "wrong" button as a shortcut. As I am chiming in, trying to be funny (which got me into trouble as a low post count person on the old board) I had better weigh in on the central issue- I would really miss this board if it went "poof" and I hope all or most of the (refu)Peas stay too. Peace. Welcome back! Please stick around. |
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Post by Mystie on Nov 13, 2016 20:03:50 GMT
I've been staying away until the dust settled. I'm a conservative. I've felt a bit unmoored this election with no party to support. This thread has been a nice change from the past few days. I took the OP as not hair flipping, just letting us know she'll be gone and maybe make us look closer at our interactions online. I was not here for previous election shenanigans so i don't have that history. However, my eyes have been opened to a few peas after the last few days. I'm doing my best to chalk it up to temporary election insanity and we'll all just let it go and get back to a little less viscous NSBR. As always, i do not keep spreadsheets. Thanks for sticking with us.  |
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