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Post by freecharlie on Dec 10, 2016 18:38:18 GMT
We have Darth Vader and Luke on our tree, going back years ago when my son first discovered "Star Wars". I want to buy dd an ornament of Rey this year. I need to get on that, so thanks for the reminder.  DH wants the Death Star on the top of the tree. It's on his Christmas list! LOL! And we're religious!  I say it all . I have a Jewish sister, Atheist and devout christians siblings. It makes the holidays super fun and never know what to expect. So we roll with it. I say Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah or whatever. I don't know why things have to be done away with. Just find a way to make sure others feel the warm and fuzzy whatever that is. That's really what the holidays are meant for? I totally approve of a death star on top of the tree...I have the Stanley Cup and I want a devils topper...maybe cubs too...I need more trees |
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Post by myshelly on Dec 10, 2016 18:51:29 GMT
American Christians never feel holier than when they are pretending to be persecuted by a fake war on Christmas.
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Post by Jili on Dec 10, 2016 18:59:12 GMT
What? No tiny W flag flying at the top of the nativity? hmmmm...do they make them small enough to to be like a sta? It could be a fun craft project. Your dh will love you for it. |
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Post by Lindarina on Dec 10, 2016 19:02:07 GMT
I see now that we saved ourselves a lot of trouble here in Scandinavia by keeping the old pagan name for this shinding. God jul (Happy yule) to all the Peas!  |
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Post by darkangel090260 on Dec 10, 2016 19:22:46 GMT
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Post by tara on Dec 10, 2016 19:36:32 GMT
I see now that we saved ourselves a lot of trouble here in Scandinavia by keeping the old pagan name for this shinding. God jul (Happy yule) to all the Peas! My daughter says Happy Yule. |
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Dec 10, 2016 20:04:04 GMT
I'm in Canada. I work at a coffee shop. I just reply back with what the customer says. |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Dec 10, 2016 20:41:46 GMT
We say Merry Christmas, or Happy Christmas in the U.K. I don't ever recall hearing anyone say Happy Holidays over here. That's true but I would add that it's not to be exclusionary but I think because the word holidays = vacations so it would just sound weird. When I lived there it was hard to break my self of the Happy Holidays.. and I did get some strange looks! |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Dec 10, 2016 20:43:08 GMT
I think I just got dumber by reading them. Wow is all I can say to describe them. Someone saying they would walk out without buying if the cashier didn't say Merry Christmas. Give me a break. How is that christian? ETA: someone also said if Hillary won (though of course they called her something else) that Christmas would have been history. Seriously? Isn't she Christian? Do these poeple have any idea how stupid they sound? Personally I say Happy Holidays. I would hope people would take it as the good meaning it has, just like when someone says Merry Christmas I take it that they are being kind and sending me good wishes. People just need something to be upset about. I did get a good laugh about them saying Bass Pro is gun friendly. Yeah, nothing puts the Christ in Christmas like weapons to kill.  I would LOVE to see ONE real example of someone calling it a Holiday Tree! It is so very Christ like to say FU to those who don't celebrate Christmas! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 10, 2016 20:45:47 GMT
People tend to get upset when their traditions like CHRISTMAS are stamped out everywhere they go. No more Christmas tree - it's a holiday tree. No more Christmas cards - holiday cards. No Merry Christmas - happy holidays. No more Christmas vacation - winter break. This excuse of inclusion is bullshit. Christmas is in December and the vast majority celebrate it. JUST SAY IT. CHRISTMAS. Did it kill ya to say it? I didn't think so.I I would LOVE to see ONE real example of someone calling it a Holiday Tree! It is so very Christ like to say FU to those who don't celebrate Christmas! I kinda think that is what she means! |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Dec 10, 2016 20:48:34 GMT
I'm in Canada. I work at a coffee shop. I just reply back with what the customer says. Canadian Commie! |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 10, 2016 20:53:28 GMT
When I make my cards, I usually use Season's Greetings because it encompasses all of the celebrations this season holds. We send cards to a variety of people and I have no idea what (if any) religion they participate in nor do I care. It seems to me the more inclusive you (general you) are the more bases you cover. What is so wrong with meeting people where they are? Getting incensed because someone says Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings vs. Merry Christmas is just plain silly, especially since the person offering the greeting has no way of knowing what the other person believes. That said, if someone told me Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa or whatever, it wouldn't even register on my radar and I would probably reply, "Same to you!" It's definitely not something I would get tweaked over. |
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Post by JBeans on Dec 10, 2016 21:11:09 GMT
Ahhh, the faux war on Christmas has made it's appearance.
It's the most fucking stupid arguement every year where the goal is to not only make the other side of the atlrguement look like giant assholes, but also yourself. Congratulations on making pointless, righteous indignation a sideshow.
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Post by Fairlyoddparent on Dec 10, 2016 21:28:24 GMT
I'm about as Christian as they come. I don't care how you wish me well....I'll take all the well wishes I can get.
My ds works for Target. This week he had a furious customer come through his line who was angry because they were not playing Christmas music. He tried to tell her that Target never plays music and that it was nothing against Christmas. She went on to say that she was offended because she was a Christian and she would never shop there again. She insisted my son call the manager so she could tell him the same thing.
Yeah, that's ridiculous!
That said, I wish that many of you would recognize and word your posts as "some Christians". We all have crazies....even athiests, pagans, Jewish, etc....don't lump us into one pile please.
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Post by corinne11 on Dec 10, 2016 21:37:09 GMT
Well, in my part of Australia no-one is wishing me anything other than " Have a good day" or "See you"  When it gets closer to the actual day, retail staff may say "have a great Christmas" but this early? Christmas decorations and music have been up for a while though. We are atheists and just received a lovely card which show the 3 wise men heading to Bethlehem. It's on display. It really is the thought that counts- someone cared enough to think of us and send us a card. We love the Christmas lights, we will play Michael Buble's Christmas CD and say Merry Christmas to everyone! (Happy Holidays is just not said over here, definitely seen as an American tradition) Recently I taught a unit of work on Celebrations to primary aged students- we learnt about Hannukah, Kwanzaa , Eid, Chinese New Year, alongside Easter and Christmas. Celebrations and spending time with family (usually eating delicious food!) is what we focus on! Corinne |
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Post by LeaP on Dec 10, 2016 21:58:25 GMT
Ahhh, the faux war on Christmas has made it's appearance. Hey, no French on this thread or are you starting a war on English? SaveSave |
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Post by anxiousmom on Dec 10, 2016 22:36:56 GMT
(another proof that there is no war against Christmas: I just checked my mail and a local car dealership sent out one of those generic Christmas cards-I opened it up and the messages started with (paraphrasing) 'as we gather together with our loved ones to share a blessed Christmas...' and then there were coupons for an oil change and a tire alignment (cause that just screams Christmas  ) so- Christmas blessings and a direct comment about the baby Jesus-all from a local, big business. They obviously didn't think it would hurt their business.) |
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Post by vspindler on Dec 10, 2016 22:48:24 GMT
Jim Wright had a wonderful take as always.
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Letters from the Front
Yesterday the cashier at finished each transaction with "Happy holidays."
Both of the older people in front of me responded with a defiant and loud "Merry CHRISTMAS!"
Me? I nodded, smiled, "Thanks, happy holidays to you too" and got a weak tired smile in return.
Today the cashier at [grocery store] finished our transaction with "Merry Christmas."
Of the three people in front of me, one responded with an angry defiant "Happy Holidays!" -- though she didn't seem particularly happy -- one just grunted in return, the other nodded curtly and walked away without her receipt.
Me? I nodded, smiled, "Thanks, Merry Christmas to you too" and got a tired grateful smile in return.
Both cashiers shared a similar trait, one that's suddenly all too common in American. Both were young people, minimum wage employees who are required by their employers at act as the public face of their business and to use specific greetings as a political statement. And both looked like an EOD bomb tech unwrapping a suspicious package whenever they had to issue their employer's chosen holiday salutation -- not knowing if the situation would turn out to be harmless or explode unexpectedly.
Imagine doing that, a hundred times a day.
You know, Folks, this petty selfish idiotic bullshit says things about us as a people, as a society, as a country.
More, it says things about your religion and about your politics.
It says things about you as person.
And NONE of those things are good.
When you can't even buy a loaf of bread or a box of screws without it being a battle over your goddamned religion or your goddamned politics, when EVERY encounter with another human being becomes just another opportunity to -- as they say here in the South -- show your ass, when you just HAVE to demonstrate your outrage to some poor minimum wager earner who can't fight back and who HAS to be polite in the face of your obnoxious behavior, then YOU'RE the problem with this world. YOU. Not the them. YOU.
There is no war on Christmas.
There is just a bunch of shitty little battles.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Dec 10, 2016 23:19:16 GMT
You might want to ask yourselves--WWJD? WWJD? Probably wish people a Happy Hanakuh since was Jewish. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 23:33:32 GMT
That said, I wish that many of you would recognize and word your posts as "some Christians". We all have crazies....even athiests, pagans, Jewish, etc....don't lump us into one pile please. Lol! I think us Muslims have everyone beat for having the craziest crazies! |
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Post by eleezybeth on Dec 11, 2016 0:31:10 GMT
I see now that we saved ourselves a lot of trouble here in Scandinavia by keeping the old pagan name for this shinding. God jul (Happy yule) to all the Peas! The horror of my "God jul" heart shaped ornament hanging on my X-mas tree! Please hold me. I'm scared. What will Christ think of me? I'm doomed! Doomed I tell you! |
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Post by tincin on Dec 11, 2016 0:54:45 GMT
There was never a prohibition against saying "Merry Christmas". What there WAS ... an open spirit .. generosity ... an inclusion ... some "Christian charity" in saying "Happy Holidays!" I don't think harm was intended ... nobody was dissing "Christmas" or merriment. It was just a way of spreading holiday good will to those persons whose belief systems were unknown or, possibly, different. It might be looming in your house but it hasn't even made it to my front door. I think a previous poster was correct when they asked WWJD? Let's see, he would be either all hurt and upset because everyone in the entire country/world wasn't kissing his Christian ass by saying Merry Christmas or he would continue on his merry way and celebrate as he saw fit. Take your pick. SaveSave |
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Post by ~summer~ on Dec 11, 2016 0:56:05 GMT
That's rediculous
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Post by dulcemama on Dec 11, 2016 1:25:46 GMT
vspindler I'm a huge Jim Wright fan! Don't you just love that man?
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Post by friendly on Dec 11, 2016 1:34:48 GMT
I think Rainbow sounds like a troll looking for attention.
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 11, 2016 1:54:10 GMT
I'm about as Christian as they come. I don't care how you wish me well....I'll take all the well wishes I can get. My ds works for Target. This week he had a furious customer come through his line who was angry because they were not playing Christmas music. He tried to tell her that Target never plays music and that it was nothing against Christmas. She went on to say that she was offended because she was a Christian and she would never shop there again. She insisted my son call the manager so she could tell him the same thing. Yeah, that's ridiculous! That said, I wish that many of you would recognize and word your posts as "some Christians". We all have crazies....even athiests, pagans, Jewish, etc....don't lump us into one pile please. That is one of my favorite things about Target. That and that they don't allow any selling or advertising in front of the store. It is about as peaceful a shopping experience as one can have in the midst of a crazy busy month. |
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Post by lucyg on Dec 11, 2016 2:17:40 GMT
You might want to ask yourselves--WWJD? WWJD? Probably wish people a Happy Hanakuh since was Jewish. While I would love to agree with this, I think the Hanukkah miracle occurred after Jesus's time, not before. However, my religious education was pretty fuzzy, so maybe someone can correct me or confirm. Lol! I think us Muslims have everyone beat for having the craziest crazies! Okay, but we've got some batshit Jews, too, and there are weirdos in every corner of the planet, of every faith. Plus, I keep thinking of those medieval Christians marching off to the Holy Land to take it back for Christianity (oh, and its riches), accompanied by as much blood and gore as they could manage; Reformation-era Christians torturing Jews to force them to convert, or burning each other at the stake for following the wrong brand of Christianity; followed in the next century by burnings and drownings of alleged witches. Honestly, no one has bragging rights at this point. I vote for everyone doing their best to be good people, and stop worrying so much about what other people are doing to break your rules. (Or saying.) ( Rainbow , I'm talking to you!) |
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Post by peasapie on Dec 11, 2016 2:20:57 GMT
I think Rainbow sounds like a troll looking for attention. Yup. And a childish one at that. But it's been fun reading peoples' opinions, so there's that. |
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Post by prapea on Dec 11, 2016 3:48:04 GMT
Care for another opinion about this from a Hindu?
I put a tree up because I like it. I buy gifts because I want to and because I like to. We decorate our house because we love it. My mother who prays daily to Hindu gods puts a tree up too and wishes people merry Christmas.
I don't give a flying F what you wish me. If you wish me Merry Christmas, I will respond back with Merry Christmas to you too. If you wish me happy holidays, I will do the same.
I have an issue with the title of that article though. "Take a stand"? for real? In my head, you take a stand when you see injustice. You take a stand when you see someone is getting beat up. You take a stand when you see racism in front of your eyes and so on. You don't need to take a stand for how people wish others in the month of December FFS.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 11, 2016 4:01:13 GMT
Jim Wright had a wonderful take as always. --------------------------- Letters from the Front Yesterday the cashier at finished each transaction with "Happy holidays."
Both of the older people in front of me responded with a defiant and loud "Merry CHRISTMAS!"
Me? I nodded, smiled, "Thanks, happy holidays to you too" and got a weak tired smile in return.
Today the cashier at [grocery store] finished our transaction with "Merry Christmas."
Of the three people in front of me, one responded with an angry defiant "Happy Holidays!" -- though she didn't seem particularly happy -- one just grunted in return, the other nodded curtly and walked away without her receipt.
Me? I nodded, smiled, "Thanks, Merry Christmas to you too" and got a tired grateful smile in return.
Both cashiers shared a similar trait, one that's suddenly all too common in American. Both were young people, minimum wage employees who are required by their employers at act as the public face of their business and to use specific greetings as a political statement. And both looked like an EOD bomb tech unwrapping a suspicious package whenever they had to issue their employer's chosen holiday salutation -- not knowing if the situation would turn out to be harmless or explode unexpectedly.
Imagine doing that, a hundred times a day.
You know, Folks, this petty selfish idiotic bullshit says things about us as a people, as a society, as a country.
More, it says things about your religion and about your politics.
It says things about you as person.
And NONE of those things are good.
When you can't even buy a loaf of bread or a box of screws without it being a battle over your goddamned religion or your goddamned politics, when EVERY encounter with another human being becomes just another opportunity to -- as they say here in the South -- show your ass, when you just HAVE to demonstrate your outrage to some poor minimum wager earner who can't fight back and who HAS to be polite in the face of your obnoxious behavior, then YOU'RE the problem with this world. YOU. Not the them. YOU.
There is no war on Christmas.
There is just a bunch of shitty little battles.Oh my gosh I had to scroll up to see who posted this because reading through I would have swore it was GrinningCat. Well said! |
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I say it all . I have a Jewish sister, Atheist and devout christians siblings. It makes the holidays super fun and never know what to expect. So we roll with it. I say Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah or whatever. I don't know why things have to be done away with. Just find a way to make sure others feel the warm and fuzzy whatever that is. That's really what the holidays are meant for?
) so- Christmas blessings and a direct comment about the baby Jesus-all from a local, big business. They obviously didn't think it would hurt their business.)
