lesley
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Post by lesley on Dec 21, 2016 20:29:36 GMT
A (thankfully) seasonal annoyance for me. Hogmanay is the Scottish name for New Year's Eve. There is no tradition of saying Happy Hogmanay in Scotland, and it bugs the hell out of me to hear it being said on TV, almost always by non-Scots. I am sure my contempt for the greeting is entirely irrational, but I can't help it! (The correct thing to say to a Scot on Hogmanay is "All the best when it comes!" )
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Post by Zee on Dec 21, 2016 20:32:49 GMT
A (thankfully) seasonal annoyance for me. Hogmanay is the Scottish name for New Year's Eve. There is no tradition of saying Happy Hogmanay in Scotland, and it bugs the hell out of me to hear it being said on TV, almost always by non-Scots. I am sure my contempt for the greeting is entirely irrational, but I can't help it! (The correct thing to say to a Scot on Hogmanay is "All the best when it comes!" ) Dumb question, but how is Hogmanay pronounced, phonetically? I could Google but I'd rather ask you. This is the part of the peas that I love, learning new words and customs. I've read about Hogmanay. I finally learned how to pronounce Samhain and now I can't remember how to spell it for sure
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lesley
Drama Llama
My best friend Turriff, desperately missed.
Posts: 7,197
Location: Scotland, Scotland, Scotland
Jul 6, 2014 21:50:44 GMT
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Post by lesley on Dec 21, 2016 20:46:15 GMT
Zee , it will vary slightly depending on which part of Scotland the speaker is from, but generally the first two syllables are quite short, the 'o' is kind of between [ɔ] and [ʌ], or the vowel sounds in 'jog' and 'jug'. The first 'a' is unstressed [ə], like in 'about', and the main stress in on the 'nay' at the end, which is longer like 'day'. Have I made that as clear as mud?
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Post by ilikepink on Dec 21, 2016 20:47:20 GMT
You know who's the worst at telling people to calm down, though? 911 operators. "Hello, I'm at Lincoln Mall and I just witnessed a--" "MA'AM YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN" "Yes, I need an ambulance, there was--" "MA'AM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CALM DOWN" As a former 911 dispatcher, sometimes it just comes out automatically - I may add, mostly by my male co-workers. When I really did need someone to calm down, I would tell them to take a deep breath - and try to breathe with them. The action of doing something, especially something that will interrupt the caller's flow, really does help (in case anyone needs to calm down)
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Post by Zee on Dec 21, 2016 20:51:25 GMT
Zee , it will vary slightly depending on which part of Scotland the speaker is from, but generally the first two syllables are quite short, the 'o' is kind of between [ɔ] and [ʌ], or the vowel sounds in 'jog' and 'jug'. The first 'a' is unstressed [ə], like in 'about', and the main stress in on the 'nay' at the end, which is longer like 'day'. Have I made that as clear as mud? Hug-muh-NAY, maybe?
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lesley
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My best friend Turriff, desperately missed.
Posts: 7,197
Location: Scotland, Scotland, Scotland
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Post by lesley on Dec 21, 2016 21:04:12 GMT
That'll do! (That damn linguistics and phonetics degree makes everything more complicated than it needs to be!)
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Post by Zee on Dec 21, 2016 21:07:45 GMT
That'll do! (That damn linguistics and phonetics degree makes everything more complicated than it needs to be!) Yes, I can't wrap my head around those odd symbols they use for pronunciation. It's like another language. Thanks!
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lesley
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My best friend Turriff, desperately missed.
Posts: 7,197
Location: Scotland, Scotland, Scotland
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Post by lesley on Dec 21, 2016 21:15:54 GMT
Yes, I can't wrap my head around those odd symbols they use for pronunciation. It's like another language. Thanks! I have a wonderful book somewhere that has the same story written in around 40 different languages. Each one is transcribed in the international phonetic alphabet (IPA). It means if you can read the IPA, you can read the story aloud, and be completely understood by a native speaker. It's really cool. I used to write out my Christmas presents list in the IPA so that no-one else would be able to understand it! OP, sorry for the hijack.
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Post by evnimom on Dec 21, 2016 21:26:01 GMT
I hate it when my DH tells me that he didn't do ___________ to make me angry. It's like he thinks that whatever he did that got me angry is just "hunky dory." I don't hunky dory either.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 21:29:03 GMT
I hate when a speaker can't just end a sentence without adding so.... but not add anymore onto the sentence. It's Ok to end a sentence without leaving it open for you to keep talking. "I was going to go to the store but then I decided it was too late, so......" Do you know anyone who does this at the end of most every sentence? The Irish tend to do that, I found it confusing at first as I was expecting more to be added. I'm used to it now, so....
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Post by terri on Dec 21, 2016 21:51:11 GMT
I am guilty of saying no worries and no problem. In fact I think I just said no worries in a PM here yesterday (you know who you are and I apologize if it is a phrase that bugs you 😕). I had no idea people didn't like it. I'm going to try to remove it from my vocabulary.
Calm down is at the top of my list too. It has the exact opposite of the intended affect on me. I greatly dislike everything happens for a reason and things can't be that bad. I make a huge effort to be positive but sometimes things really are that bad.
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Post by Ellie on Dec 21, 2016 21:55:39 GMT
I admit--I'm guilty of saying "No Worries" from time to time but not simply in place of "You're Welcome." I use it if someone is expressing that they've been imposing or a bother. I know it's a bit irritating. I think I started using it after working as a barista at a coffee shop. One of my coworkers used the phrase all the time and it stuck. I really don't like it when I'm told to "relax," "chill out," or "calm down." Though I can see that "calm down" has its place. I particularly hate "chill out." I think I may say "no problem" as well! Where did I get that from? Okay so I don't mean to pick on you, your answer was perfectly nice and I appreciate it..BUT. These are the exact people, baristas I was thinking about that I despise being told 'no problem'. You (general you) aren't there hanging out and are happening to make me a Mocha cause you have some time, just to be nice. You are making me the Mocha because it is your job to do so, and you'll be rewarded with a tip for on top of it. So telling me "no problem' when I politely thank you? It's just so self centered. You didn't do me a favor, you did your job! I seriously bite my tongue every time. and that's my rant. Well, I was in my 20s when I worked as a barista and was known by customers for being super friendly and polite. Makes me a bit sad to think that any "no problems" I said may have been interpreted as self-centered and were potentially despised by some. Surely it's the tone in which these things are said? A not-very-friendly barista who barely makes eye contact and mumbles a "no problem" vs. an enthusiastic, cheerful one? Ugh. I guess I'm feeling sensitive this time of year. Don't mind me as I move along...
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oh yvonne
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Post by oh yvonne on Dec 21, 2016 22:04:22 GMT
OMG I just thought of another, my DH does. "Sure". "Okay, sure" when he claims to not believe us. Drives me and the girls crazy and he does it on purpose. Pffttt.
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oh yvonne
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Post by oh yvonne on Dec 21, 2016 22:06:01 GMT
Okay so I don't mean to pick on you, your answer was perfectly nice and I appreciate it..BUT. These are the exact people, baristas I was thinking about that I despise being told 'no problem'. You (general you) aren't there hanging out and are happening to make me a Mocha cause you have some time, just to be nice. You are making me the Mocha because it is your job to do so, and you'll be rewarded with a tip for on top of it. So telling me "no problem' when I politely thank you? It's just so self centered. You didn't do me a favor, you did your job! I seriously bite my tongue every time. and that's my rant. Well, I was in my 20s when I worked as a barista and was known by customers for being super friendly and polite. Makes me a bit sad to think that any "no problems" I said may have been interpreted as self-centered and were potentially despised by some. Surely it's the tone in which these things are said? A not-very-friendly barista who barely makes eye contact and mumbles a "no problem" vs. an enthusiastic, cheerful one? Ugh. I guess I'm feeling sensitive this time of year. Don't mind me as I move along... Oh Ellie, don't get all sensitive on me now girl. It's just a thread tossing out silly annoyances. It never ruined my day or anything. We are just yammering. I'm sure you are very nice and deserved every tip you got. Ay ya yi. I tried to put a smilie and everything, and still managed to offend.
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Post by Ellie on Dec 21, 2016 23:22:55 GMT
Well, I was in my 20s when I worked as a barista and was known by customers for being super friendly and polite. Makes me a bit sad to think that any "no problems" I said may have been interpreted as self-centered and were potentially despised by some. Surely it's the tone in which these things are said? A not-very-friendly barista who barely makes eye contact and mumbles a "no problem" vs. an enthusiastic, cheerful one? Ugh. I guess I'm feeling sensitive this time of year. Don't mind me as I move along... Oh Ellie, don't get all sensitive on me now girl. It's just a thread tossing out silly annoyances. It never ruined my day or anything. We are just yammering. I'm sure you are very nice and deserved every tip you got. Ay ya yi. I tried to put a smilie and everything, and still managed to offend. Oh, it's only my holiday season blues coming out. This reply brought a huge smile to my face. No smilies on my phone but sending bunches your way, Yvonne!!!
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Post by pjaye on Dec 21, 2016 23:36:36 GMT
The one that bugs me the most because it's so easily said but is so irresponsible is the "I'm sure it's nothing" or "I'm sure it will be fine" when someone is worrying a symptom or medical condition. You're *sure* are you? You know better than all the medical professionals, even without all of the necessary information?
I'm on the other end of it:- when that week long headache that did turn out to be brain cancer, where that small spot of blood was the start of a miscarriage, where tingly feeling in the fingers did turn into a heart attack resulting in death. Lots and lots of small things DO turn out to be something very serious and telling people that you're sure they'll be fine when you don't know anything of the sort can be detrimental. I know people want to say something positive and encouraging but the constant reassurance that nothing is wrong, when something *is* wrong can be dangerous. Because I've seen it first hand that the people have had so much reassurance from everyone around them that everything is "fine" that they the struggle to accept the reality of their serious diagnosis.
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DEX
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Post by DEX on Dec 21, 2016 23:48:39 GMT
My new one is, "perfect". It might be a local thing but the 20 something's around here all say, "perfect" over the stupidest stuff. I would like my bill, please.....( response by server). "Perfect!"
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 22, 2016 0:01:55 GMT
I don't think I saw this one mentioned yet, but I hate when my kids (or anyone) answer with "I'm good" instead of "no, thank you".
Server in the restaurant last night "Would you like another drink?" DS "I'm good."
I'm sitting across the table from DS giving him the stink eye until he laughs and reminds me it is his birthday dinner so he gets a pass.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Dec 22, 2016 0:37:13 GMT
Okay so I don't mean to pick on you, your answer was perfectly nice and I appreciate it..BUT. These are the exact people, baristas I was thinking about that I despise being told 'no problem'. You (general you) aren't there hanging out and are happening to make me a Mocha cause you have some time, just to be nice. You are making me the Mocha because it is your job to do so, and you'll be rewarded with a tip for on top of it. So telling me "no problem' when I politely thank you? It's just so self centered. You didn't do me a favor, you did your job! I seriously bite my tongue every time. and that's my rant. Well, I was in my 20s when I worked as a barista and was known by customers for being super friendly and polite. Makes me a bit sad to think that any "no problems" I said may have been interpreted as self-centered and were potentially despised by some. Surely it's the tone in which these things are said? A not-very-friendly barista who barely makes eye contact and mumbles a "no problem" vs. an enthusiastic, cheerful one? Ugh. I guess I'm feeling sensitive this time of year. Don't mind me as I move along... I've heard many customer service people say no problem and I always just took it as a generational/casual thing. It doesn't bother me and I always took it as a way of connecting with the customer by not being so formal
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Post by AussieMeg on Dec 22, 2016 0:54:22 GMT
"Just smile, life can't be that bad" from a stranger. Yes!!! This one is the WORST! Aaaarrrgh! I have to admit that I am guilty of saying "No worries". I say it all the time. And I'm going to to keep saying it. So there!
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Post by AussieMeg on Dec 22, 2016 0:55:40 GMT
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Post by peasapie on Dec 22, 2016 1:33:44 GMT
HAHahahah. I'm saving them for future use. Thank you.
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Post by Belia on Dec 22, 2016 1:44:19 GMT
"Not my circus, not my monkeys."
People think they're being so cute and clever, but you're either being totally obvious, OR your hurting the feelings of those who thought they were part of your circus.
Lookin' at you, Auntie Roseann, Christmas night, 2014.
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Post by artisticscrapper on Dec 22, 2016 3:10:02 GMT
"It could be worse". Yeah, and it could be better. If I have a problem or I'm going through some bad times this unsympathetic response really irritates me. I feel like the person is minimizing my problems and has no empathy. A while back I broke my knee and was on crutches. Two people at work actually told me it could be worse. Sorry but the correct response is, "Do you need help with anything?"
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Dec 22, 2016 3:26:39 GMT
I can't stand being told to "get over it". No one is going to tell me how I feel about something.
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Post by anonrefugee on Dec 22, 2016 3:30:35 GMT
My new one is, "perfect". It might be a local thing but the 20 something's around here all say, "perfect" over the stupidest stuff. I would like my bill, please.....( response by server). "Perfect!" I'm guilty of saying that! Maybe we all have run out of affirmative words I had an exchange with a customer service rep after I last posted. It ended with them messaging, after I thanked them, "No worries." Although it made me smile (due to this thread) I thought of course it doesn't worry them. It keeps them employed. I however had to interrupt my day because their product had issues!
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 22, 2016 3:47:26 GMT
"It is what it is" It's just an irritating way of saying f#ck you! Or some version of f-you f-off or f-something. I get that it could used as a "que sera sera/whatever will be will be" thing. Usually people are saying it in a nice tone but what they really mean is "whatever I don't give a f#ck if I'm inconveniencing you". Whoa! We definitely hang around different people! It is what it is. It may not be the situation we wanted, but this is the situation we are in.
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msbtastic
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Sept 12, 2016 0:36:10 GMT
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Post by msbtastic on Dec 22, 2016 3:48:19 GMT
I didn't see anyone add "at least I..." when they are told something that they've done is not acceptable. I just want to scream! At least I didn't punch you straight in the throat- that's what I think. And as someone with serious RBF, I absolutely hate being told to smile or that I'm too pretty not to smile. It makes me wonder what your number would have to be for it to be socially acceptable not to smile. You know what, add to the list "you're too pretty to be____". I heard that so often when I smoked, when I cuss, etc. . I guess "pretty" people can have no fun. They can only run around smiling, praying, and helping baby animals.
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Post by Drew on Dec 22, 2016 3:53:51 GMT
I've always feel that, "I'll see what I can do" actually means "Go fuck yourself".
It's weird...I hate "It is what it is" but I love "We'll see what we see".
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 22, 2016 3:56:02 GMT
"Just smile, life can't be that bad" from a stranger. Yes!!! This one is the WORST! Aaaarrrgh! I have to admit that I am guilty of saying "No worries". I say it all the time. And I'm going to to keep saying it. So there! No worries here if you do.
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