imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Mar 28, 2017 23:47:14 GMT
Because they aren't the damn POTUS. He just keeps deflecting, blaming, lying.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 0:18:22 GMT
linkPolitiFact fact checked tiny hand's tweets about Hillary and Russia. It doesn't matter if Hillary is president or not. The information in trump's tweets borders on outright lies to suggesting something that wasn't. In other words FAKE NEWS!!! All he is doing is trying to deflect from his involvement with Russia.
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Post by PLurker on Mar 29, 2017 0:22:46 GMT
Because they aren't the damn POTUS. He just keeps deflecting, blaming, lying. Don't go using truth and common sense on the man-child. He can't understand or acknowledge the concept(s). and it may cause further tantrums.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 29, 2017 1:25:02 GMT
Does he sit around and watch t.v. all day? [ There seems to be abundant evidence that he has always - and still does - watch a LOT of television. I hope he has Netflix. On another thread, I wished he would watch all seven seasons of The West Wing. On the other hand, he might stumble across House of Cards. Last I remember, THAT president was starting a war for political gain...
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Post by PLurker on Mar 29, 2017 3:41:43 GMT
Does he sit around and watch t.v. all day? [ There seems to be abundant evidence that he has always - and still does - watch a LOT of television. I hope he has Netflix. On another thread, I wished he would watch all seven seasons of The West Wing. On the other hand, he might stumble across House of Cards. Last I remember, THAT president was starting a war for political gain... Pathetic that TV POTUS is on our wish list, isn't it? I heard the TV show "Scandal" had to rewrite parts because what was written as over the top TV drama had too much that "came true" and was no longer outrageous. Part of it had to do with Russian interference, I think. And the show "Designated Survivor" also somehow, some times seems more normal than our real life. Made for TV POTUS(s) are more appealing to real life one! Wow, just, wow.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 9:32:56 GMT
Does he sit around and watch t.v. all day? [ There seems to be abundant evidence that he has always - and still does - watch a LOT of television. I hope he has Netflix. On another thread, I wished he would watch all seven seasons of The West Wing. On the other hand, he might stumble across House of Cards. Last I remember, THAT president was starting a war for political gain... LOL. For real--last weekend DH and I started to watch Season 3 of House of Cards, when he first becomes POTUS. As the episode went on, and he's talking about his agenda, I swear, it sounded just like Trump's agenda. DH said, "That f**cker (Trump) got his play book from watching House of Cards!" There were a lot of eerie similarities.
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Post by pyccku on Mar 29, 2017 12:14:56 GMT
Does he sit around and watch t.v. all day? No. He also plays golf and sits on the toilet and shit-tweets fairly regularly. Save
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Post by pjaye on Mar 29, 2017 13:30:09 GMT
He seems to ignore the fact that many of us don't need "the media" to form negative opinions of him, we read his own tweets & listen to his own words when he gives speeches and interviews, we see how he behaves on TV, we read what his plans and policies are. People can see for themselves what an incompetent fool he is...we don't need any "media" to tell us.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 29, 2017 16:21:43 GMT
Yea but the decision had nothing to do with anything you did. "Big announcement by Ford today. Major investment to be made in three Michigan plants. Car companies coming back to U.S. JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!" ^^^ I heard the NPR story about this- you wanna know how MANY jobs?? 130. That's what the CEO who they interviewed said. 130 jobs, either created or saved, by that 'big announcement.' jobs are jobs, I guess, but it seriously irks the heck out of me when it's not the yuuuuuge economy saving stroke that he makes it out to be, and that Trump takes credit for things (like this) that have been in the works for YEARS.
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Post by scrapsotime on Mar 29, 2017 17:46:06 GMT
Yea but the decision had nothing to do with anything you did. "Big announcement by Ford today. Major investment to be made in three Michigan plants. Car companies coming back to U.S. JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!" ^^^ I heard the NPR story about this- you wanna know how MANY jobs?? 130. That's what the CEO who they interviewed said. 130 jobs, either created or saved, by that 'big announcement.' jobs are jobs, I guess, but it seriously irks the heck out of me when it's not the yuuuuuge economy saving stroke that he makes it out to be, and that Trump takes credit for things (like this) that have been in the works for YEARS. He's probably going to eliminate more jobs in the EPA and other government agencies than he could ever take credit for creating.
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Post by micheley on Mar 29, 2017 20:38:27 GMT
I don't even know what to say anymore.
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Post by micheley on Mar 29, 2017 20:48:48 GMT
Also:
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 29, 2017 21:47:59 GMT
^^^ I heard the NPR story about this- you wanna know how MANY jobs?? 130. That's what the CEO who they interviewed said. 130 jobs, either created or saved, by that 'big announcement.' jobs are jobs, I guess, but it seriously irks the heck out of me when it's not the yuuuuuge economy saving stroke that he makes it out to be, and that Trump takes credit for things (like this) that have been in the works for YEARS. He's probably going to eliminate more jobs in the EPA and other government agencies than he could ever take credit for creating. Not to mention all the jobs lost in the public schools, health care, state parks, the arts and virtually everywhere else he wants to make huge cuts.
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Post by used2scrap on Mar 30, 2017 4:58:46 GMT
Except the nepotism ones apparently.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 7:16:03 GMT
Yea but the decision had nothing to do with anything you did.
"Big announcement by Ford today. Major investment to be made in three Michigan plants. Car companies coming back to U.S. JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!" According to Ford CEO Mark Fields they did take what he's done/said into account... "We’re doing this decision based on what’s right for our business,” Fields told Neil Cavuto. “As we think about the investments here in Michigan, as you can imagine, Neil, we look at a lot of factors as we make those. One of the factors that we’re looking at is a more positive U.S. manufacturing business environment under President-elect Trump and some of the pro-growth policies he said he’s going to pursue. And so this is a vote of confidence."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 7:32:02 GMT
Yea but the decision had nothing to do with anything you did.
"Big announcement by Ford today. Major investment to be made in three Michigan plants. Car companies coming back to U.S. JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!" According to Ford CEO Mark Fields they did take what he's done/said into account... "We’re doing this decision based on what’s right for our business,” Fields told Neil Cavuto. “As we think about the investments here in Michigan, as you can imagine, Neil, we look at a lot of factors as we make those. One of the factors that we’re looking at is a more positive U.S. manufacturing business environment under President-elect Trump and some of the pro-growth policies he said he’s going to pursue. And so this is a vote of confidence." Phooey. Donuts to dollars they made the business decision to invest in these plants before the election. No business as big as Ford all of a sudden decides to invest the kind of money they are talking about in a couple of months since the election. And as vindictive as trump is it was a wise move on Ford CEO to let trump take the credit. And before you ask me how I know this is because in my former life in commercial insurance at renewal time we always got an idea of any expansion,or remodeling or major purchases planned for the next year to 18 months. The reason so we could follow up with them to make sure we had the insurance in place to cover their project when it started or when they make the purchase. You would be surprised the boat load of information you get from businesses when you write their insurance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 7:52:55 GMT
According to Ford CEO Mark Fields they did take what he's done/said into account... "We’re doing this decision based on what’s right for our business,” Fields told Neil Cavuto. “As we think about the investments here in Michigan, as you can imagine, Neil, we look at a lot of factors as we make those. One of the factors that we’re looking at is a more positive U.S. manufacturing business environment under President-elect Trump and some of the pro-growth policies he said he’s going to pursue. And so this is a vote of confidence." Phooey. Donuts to dollars they made the business decision to invest in these plants before the election. No business as big as Ford all of a sudden decides to invest the kind of money they are talking about in a couple of months since the election. And as vindictive as trump is it was a wise move on Ford CEO to let trump take the credit. And before you ask me how I know this is because in my former life in commercial insurance at renewal time we always got an idea of any expansion,or remodeling or major purchases planned for the next year to 18 months. The reason so we could follow up with them to make sure we had the insurance in place to cover their project when it started or when they make the purchase. You would be surprised the boat load of information you get from businesses when you write their insurance. Of course you're right about planning happening well before the action is taken, you have to remember that they probably had more than one avenue to take depending on who won the election. So while you SPECULATE that they couldn't have taken what Trump has said/done into account in their decision, the CEO is saying that they in fact did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 9:12:19 GMT
Phooey. Donuts to dollars they made the business decision to invest in these plants before the election. No business as big as Ford all of a sudden decides to invest the kind of money they are talking about in a couple of months since the election. And as vindictive as trump is it was a wise move on Ford CEO to let trump take the credit. And before you ask me how I know this is because in my former life in commercial insurance at renewal time we always got an idea of any expansion,or remodeling or major purchases planned for the next year to 18 months. The reason so we could follow up with them to make sure we had the insurance in place to cover their project when it started or when they make the purchase. You would be surprised the boat load of information you get from businesses when you write their insurance. Of course you're right about planning happening well before the action is taken, you have to remember that they probably had more than one avenue to take depending on who won the election. So while you SPECULATE that they couldn't have taken what Trump has said/done into account in their decision, the CEO is saying that they in fact did. Doesn't matter who won the election it wasn't going to change the fact that the decision that was taken by Ford was based on a lower demand for smaller cars......the Ford Focus. Ford, as a global corporation isn't going to base their future production investment on a vague promise that hasn't yet been fulfilled.They are going to base it on their own future economic growth and what is best for their company. Unless Trump has/will offer Ford any incentives ie. tax breaks or such like, Ford will continue to make their decisions based on the economic growth of the company. Trump or anyone else can't make the public buy smaller cars! 28,000 jobs during the last five years!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 30, 2017 9:19:02 GMT
Of course you're right about planning happening well before the action is taken, you have to remember that they probably had more than one avenue to take depending on who won the election. So while you SPECULATE that they couldn't have taken what Trump has said/done into account in their decision, the CEO is saying that they in fact did. Doesn't matter who won the election it wasn't going to change the fact that the decision that was taken by Ford was based on a lower demand for smaller cars......the Ford Focus. Ford, as a global corporation isn't going to base their future production investment on a vague promise that hasn't yet been fulfilled.They are going to base it on their own future economic growth and what is best for their company. Unless Trump has/will offer Ford any incentives ie. tax breaks or such like, Ford will continue to make their decisions based on the economic growth of the company. Trump or anyone else can't make the public buy smaller cars! 28,000 jobs during the last five years! Not to mention that Fords "vote of confidence" for the new administrations pro-business policies, was directly related to the dismantling of the EPA. The car mfgs have been tasked to improve fuel efficiency capacities for 2022 models, with a review on the progress skated for 2018- with no EPA...no requirement to improve.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 9:53:42 GMT
Of course you're right about planning happening well before the action is taken, you have to remember that they probably had more than one avenue to take depending on who won the election. So while you SPECULATE that they couldn't have taken what Trump has said/done into account in their decision, the CEO is saying that they in fact did. Doesn't matter who won the election it wasn't going to change the fact that the decision that was taken by Ford was based on a lower demand for smaller cars......the Ford Focus. Ford, as a global corporation isn't going to base their future production investment on a vague promise that hasn't yet been fulfilled.They are going to base it on their own future economic growth and what is best for their company. Unless Trump has/will offer Ford any incentives ie. tax breaks or such like, Ford will continue to make their decisions based on the economic growth of the company. Trump or anyone else can't make the public buy smaller cars! 28,000 jobs during the last five years! Fred/krazyscrapper said that Trump had nothing to do with with Ford's decision and yet Ford's CEO said he did. That's it. That's the only point I'm making.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 10:49:42 GMT
Doesn't matter who won the election it wasn't going to change the fact that the decision that was taken by Ford was based on a lower demand for smaller cars......the Ford Focus. Ford, as a global corporation isn't going to base their future production investment on a vague promise that hasn't yet been fulfilled.They are going to base it on their own future economic growth and what is best for their company. Unless Trump has/will offer Ford any incentives ie. tax breaks or such like, Ford will continue to make their decisions based on the economic growth of the company. Trump or anyone else can't make the public buy smaller cars! 28,000 jobs during the last five years! Fred/krazyscrapper said that Trump had nothing to do with with Ford's decision and yet Ford's CEO said he did. That's it. That's the only point I'm making. You mean you want to focus on his last sentence rather than the whole conversation in Mark Field's interview with CNBC This little bit right at the end of the interview Proposing = Proposing something is not a concrete plan it's an intention which may or may not come to fruition. What we think = facts are not that clear as yet otherwise they wouldn't have to just think about what he meant, they would know. "So, this is a vote of confidence in what the president-elect is going to pursue and it's right for our business," Just removing two crucial words gives the sentence a totally different meaning....... but that isn't what Mark Field's said. Words matter!! Neither of these observations confirm that Trump had anything to do with saving or bringing back Ford jobs. If, what he eventually does, then, it might be right for their business but not before. Corporations don't make long term decisions based on what someone is proposing or based on what they think someone's plan is. I reiterate what I said earlier. Trump has no basis for taking credit for what Ford has done for these 700 jobs.
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Post by micheley on Mar 30, 2017 13:11:54 GMT
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Mar 30, 2017 13:32:31 GMT
So much for working together for the betterment of America. So not surprised after what they did to Obama for 8 years.
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Post by micheley on Mar 30, 2017 14:32:18 GMT
I'm starting to take the dementia talk seriously. This is just not normal. Even for a petty scorekeeper.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 15:00:05 GMT
Fred/krazyscrapper said that Trump had nothing to do with with Ford's decision and yet Ford's CEO said he did. That's it. That's the only point I'm making. You mean you want to focus on his last sentence rather than the whole conversation in Mark Field's interview with CNBC This little bit right at the end of the interview Proposing = Proposing something is not a concrete plan it's an intention which may or may not come to fruition. What we think = facts are not that clear as yet otherwise they wouldn't have to just think about what he meant, they would know. "So, this is a vote of confidence in what the president-elect is going to pursue and it's right for our business," Just removing two crucial words gives the sentence a totally different meaning....... but that isn't what Mark Field's said. Words matter!! Neither of these observations confirm that Trump had anything to do with saving or bringing back Ford jobs. If, what he eventually does, then, it might be right for their business but not before. Corporations don't make long term decisions based on what someone is proposing or based on what they think someone's plan is. I reiterate what I said earlier. Trump has no basis for taking credit for what Ford has done for these 700 jobs. Dotty, you can analyze and dissect what the CEO of Ford said, all you want, but you can not keep trying to push the idea that Trump had nothing to do with Ford's decision in the face of the CEO of Ford saying Trump did factor into their decision. "We’re doing this decision based on what’s right for our business,” Fields told Neil Cavuto. “As we think about the investments here in Michigan, as you can imagine, Neil, we look at a lot of factors as we make those. One of the factors that we’re looking at is a more positive U.S. manufacturing business environment under President-elect Trump and some of the pro-growth policies he said he’s going to pursue. And so this is a vote of confidence."
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 30, 2017 15:46:18 GMT
Maybe this will piss of more Republicans and some of them will get some beach ball sized lady nuts and stand up to Trump and he will have a harder time pushing his agenda? Maybe? We can hope? Fingers Crossed?
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 30, 2017 16:23:16 GMT
He's probably going to eliminate more jobs in the EPA and other government agencies than he could ever take credit for creating. Not to mention all the jobs lost in the public schools, health care, state parks, the arts and virtually everywhere else he wants to make huge cuts. Well, of course he needs to cut a lot more workers. Those poor 1% need masive tax cuts and that money has to come from somewhere.
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Post by peasquared on Mar 30, 2017 16:27:16 GMT
Didn't the Republicans accuse Obama of wanting to rob from Peter to pay Paul? Seems the Trump Administration wants to rob from Paul to pay Peter. Deplorable!
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Post by micheley on Mar 30, 2017 18:14:01 GMT
My son calls him Yertle the Turtle. Dd and I call him the Keebler Elf.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 30, 2017 18:28:26 GMT
My son calls him Yertle the Turtle. Dd and I call him the Keebler Elf. I was just telling DD6 last night that Trump is The Onceler from The Lorax. You know, the guy who built a factory, chopped down all the Truffula trees and brought in his whole family to make Thneeds, and in the process chased out all the natural inhabitants and polluted the environment? Seriously, the parallels are frightening.
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