uksue
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Post by uksue on Jan 9, 2017 8:53:44 GMT
I can't. I just can'tI also don't understand the blind faith that they have in Trump. What has he done to earn that? Even on his victory tour he seemed to be admitting that a lot of what he said was just for public approval and to get people pumped up and win votes. It is disheartening to see the country go in this direction. [br This is what I don't understand either. I watched an old episode of celebrity apprentice last night. The way he barks questions and then talks over people as they try to answer . He comes across as such a bully. I also hate the platitudes he hands out amongst the verbal attacks. This may be great for TV ratings, but it isn't what you expect from someone in one of the, if not THE most powerful jobs in the world. I still feel it's all a bad dream sometimes, as I can remember how I laughed ( oh how we laughed !) when he said he would run for presidency the first time . I remember the steely cold eyes when he was interviewed back then and ridiculed and wonder how he will take revenge now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 10:35:27 GMT
So his answer to this statement is this
He has a lot to learn for sure. Millions around the world believe in Meryl Streep's statement and they're neither liberal in their beliefs or are movie stars in their occupation. They are all decent human beings but if the cap fits Mr Trump....... it takes one to know one.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 9, 2017 10:58:37 GMT
He can try to back peddle all he wants about that incident - but we all saw it and it very clearly showed us who he was. That some people were and still are, willing to look the other way with regards to that reality is very very sad.
But they are probably the sort of people that use the word 'retard' and make the same sorts of jokes in their own homes.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 9, 2017 12:08:57 GMT
We could have taken bets on the fact that he wouldn't be able to resist attacking Meryl Streep...and he didn't let us down:
I have no words...
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Post by DEX on Jan 9, 2017 12:12:53 GMT
From a New York Times interview following Meryl Streep's take down, “We are going to have an unbelievable, perhaps record-setting turnout for the inauguration, and there will be plenty of movie and entertainment stars,” Mr. Trump said. “All the dress shops are sold out in Washington. It’s hard to find a great dress for this inauguration.” No words...
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Post by pyccku on Jan 9, 2017 12:13:42 GMT
There are so many slamming Ms Streep on Twitter. Many are supporting her, but there are a lot more than I thought that are ripping her up. There is so much hate out there. And social media makes you see it up close. While I love technology, there are times when I wish Twitter and Facebook would just disappear. Let's bring back My Space when we were more interested in creating a cool place with fun, funky graphics and great music playing in the background. Don't forget - never forget - that some of the hate is coming from people sitting in a building in Russia, being paid to make these posts. While there are legitimate posts from people who may not like her speech, the Russian campaign of dizimformatsia continues. Just because the election is over, they haven't gone away. They move from topic to topic, depending upon the assigned talking points. When you see a bunch of posts about the same thing over and over again - basically the same talking point repeated by different people - that is a sign that it may be the Russians at it again. Their goal wasn't just to get Trump into power - their goal is also to divide and sow dissent. They are doing this all over western countries, not just the US. It's a job. They watch the media, twitter feed, etc. and then jump into action. They have a quota of posts to make and a list of views they want to share. Some of them are better at it than others. There have been quite a few posts in not-quite-correct English on Reddit about her speech. Many from new accounts that seem to have been made just to talk about this particular incident. All of them are parroting the same talking point - oooh, liberal Hollywood old woman is so out of touch with real Americans and needs to shut her mouth because Trump will make America great again!!! It's a joke to many people there because it's been going on for a while. It's harder to tell on twitter b/c of the character restriction - people often drop prepositions, etc. for space. But they're there as well. Article about the disinformation campaigns: www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html?_r=0SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 12:22:11 GMT
You know, Streep didn't specifically name him so her comment can be directed at anyone who is in a power position. A principal, a pastor, a city Mayor, a governor and yes, the President. It's a reminder that we should not tolerate bullying or intimidation from anyone.
Yes, I know her whole speech was against Trump but the line about those in power bullying can be applied to anyone and we should remember that.
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Post by imsirius on Jan 9, 2017 12:44:31 GMT
Latest tweet. Good thing we didn't bet on his next tweet. So he attacks the media through his dumb wall. "Dishonest media says Mexico won't be paying for the wall if they pay a little later so the wall can be built more quickly. Media is fake!" How come the media isn't fake or dishonest when they print good things about him? I just can't anymore.... oh, and Meryl's speech was spot on. Wait for the slamming of her movies, character and family to start.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 9, 2017 12:47:16 GMT
And, if they were to build a wall, they still have the drug tunnels to cross from Mexico to the US. I can't believe people actually think a wall would keep them out. Have you seen those tunnels?! They're getting pretty good at building those tunnels. Then there is the ocean. How is tiny hands going to handle that? When I brought that up, the response was "would you leave your car door unlocked just because someone could get into Your car other ways?"
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Post by linda~lou on Jan 9, 2017 12:48:28 GMT
There are so many slamming Ms Streep on Twitter. Many are supporting her, but there are a lot more than I thought that are ripping her up. There is so much hate out there. And social media makes you see it up close. While I love technology, there are times when I wish Twitter and Facebook would just disappear. Let's bring back My Space when we were more interested in creating a cool place with fun, funky graphics and great music playing in the background. Don't forget - never forget - that some of the hate is coming from people sitting in a building in Russia, being paid to make these posts. While there are legitimate posts from people who may not like her speech, the Russian campaign of dizimformatsia continues. Just because the election is over, they haven't gone away. They move from topic to topic, depending upon the assigned talking points. When you see a bunch of posts about the same thing over and over again - basically the same talking point repeated by different people - that is a sign that it may be the Russians at it again. Their goal wasn't just to get Trump into power - their goal is also to divide and sow dissent. They are doing this all over western countries, not just the US. It's a job. They watch the media, twitter feed, etc. and then jump into action. They have a quota of posts to make and a list of views they want to share. Some of them are better at it than others. There have been quite a few posts in not-quite-correct English on Reddit about her speech. Many from new accounts that seem to have been made just to talk about this particular incident. All of them are parroting the same talking point - oooh, liberal Hollywood old woman is so out of touch with real Americans and needs to shut her mouth because Trump will make America great again!!! It's a joke to many people there because it's been going on for a while. It's harder to tell on twitter b/c of the character restriction - people often drop prepositions, etc. for space. But they're there as well. Article about the disinformation campaigns: www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html?_r=0SaveSaveThank you so much for bringing this to light. I never thought of that but holy crap, you're right and that is really frightening. Omg, we are doomed aren't we. And I knew he was going to call Ms Streep over rated. Exact same thing he said about Hamilton. I just read a comment on Twitter where in a interview he said if someone wounds him he fights back to 'unwound' himself. 😳
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Jan 9, 2017 12:48:52 GMT
We could have taken bets on the fact that he wouldn't be able to resist attacking Meryl Streep...and he didn't let us down:
I have no words...
Not smart at all, tiny hands. If you cannot exercise restraint and stick to your actual new job, stick to attacking people where you might actually find more than token agreement from your brain dead and/or paid supporters. Provided the world survives your ego, History will not be kind. Side note: I recently cleaned up a pile of memorabilia which included a brochure from Madame Tussaud's. The technical info specifies that the heads, torsos and clothing are preferably done from a live sitting but in a pinch can be done from photos, the hands are always cast from the subject so Mr T had better be sure of his facts!
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Post by pjaye on Jan 9, 2017 12:55:39 GMT
That's crazy...and I say that in an astonished way. I've never really given it a lot of thought, but I tend to believe it. But here's what I don't get, so there's lots of fake twitter accounts and bots responding on social media, but it doesn't discount the fact that he was still elected. That's what gets me, people still turned up and voted for this waste of space. Logically it would make more sense if he showed a high amount of support on social media, but then lost the election. Yeah I know technically he lost the popular vote, but he should have lost by a massive landslide and he didn't. People are still falling for his shit even when they see it with their own eyes...never mind the disinformation, there's actual recordings of him saying the most ridiculous things and there are his own tweets, and despite that people STILL voted for him and still support him, I honestly still can't understand how that can be. All his tweets and interviews are "me me me win win win" and everyone is a "has been" or "so called" or "loser" and the rest is all "dishonest & lying media". Even that most recent tweet, "the guy changed a 16yo story". 16 years ago and he's still can't let it go. 16 years!! He's a complete fucking nightmare and in less than 2 weeks he's going to be the most powerful man in the world. OK, I obviously found some words.
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Post by pyccku on Jan 9, 2017 13:02:56 GMT
Thank you so much for bringing this to light. I never thought of that but holy crap, you're right and that is really frightening. Omg, we are doomed aren't we. And I knew he was going to call Ms Streep over rated. Exact same thing he said about Hamilton. I just read a comment on Twitter where in a interview he said if someone wounds him he fights back to 'unwound' himself. 😳 Also consider the time difference. The Golden Globes were held in CA, which means that by the time they finished it was quite late in the Eastern time zone - how many people in the US are going to stay up all night to talk about Meryl Streep? But what time are all of these posts occurring? Right now it's 3:58 pm in Moscow. So while we've been sleeping, they've been working all day. We wake up in the morning and WOW, there are a lot of people who really hate Meryl Streep!!! Who knew?? Most people in the US (myself included) probably wouldn't be discussing this too much late at night. We'd wait until the next morning, the water cooler, etc. Those who missed the speech wouldn't even find out about it until they watched the news this morning, or got online while drinking their coffee. But no...there are seemingly thousands of Americans who found her speech so outrageous that they felt compelled to stay up all night long posting the same talking point, on multiple networks. This isn't some small group of trolls messing with people from their mom's basement for the lulz. It's an actual branch of the Russian government, with people being paid to act in a concerted and purposeful manner. The US may have invented the internet, but the Russians weaponized it. IMO, we are way behind the in this area. We thought that having a website with some articles and a slick media campaign would win hearts and minds, but it turns out you don't have to spend nearly that much money on it. You just need some people who speak the language and have basic access to the Internet and a good VPN. Save
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 9, 2017 13:58:18 GMT
That's crazy...and I say that in an astonished way. I've never really given it a lot of thought, but I tend to believe it. But here's what I don't get, so there's lots of fake twitter accounts and bots responding on social media, but it doesn't discount the fact that he was still elected. That's what gets me, people still turned up and voted for this waste of space. Logically it would make more sense if he showed a high amount of support on social media, but then lost the election. Yeah I know technically he lost the popular vote, but he should have lost by a massive landslide and he didn't. People are still falling for his shit even when they see it with their own eyes...never mind the disinformation, there's actual recordings of him saying the most ridiculous things and there are his own tweets, and despite that people STILL voted for him and still support him, I honestly still can't understand how that can be. All his tweets and interviews are "me me me win win win" and everyone is a "has been" or "so called" or "loser" and the rest is all "dishonest & lying media". Even that most recent tweet, "the guy changed a 16yo story". 16 years ago and he's still can't let it go. 16 years!! He's a complete fucking nightmare and in less than 2 weeks he's going to be the most powerful man in the world. OK, I obviously found some words. The thing is, those people who are posting on behalf of Russia ARE influencing people, and therefor the election. They are being successful in widening the divide that was already there between the left and the right. And that is what they want. And apparently what trump wants as well because he does the same thing.
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linda~lou
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Post by linda~lou on Jan 9, 2017 15:42:06 GMT
Spinning top Kelleyanne has topped herself. (Haha note pun) She was being questioned this morning about dt's comments about the disabled reporter.
She said we're not supposed to take anything trump says literally, we're supposed to know what is in his heart!
Are you kidding me?? She actually said that. Spin me round round ...
Found actual quote. Conway: Judge Trump by what's in his heart, not what comes out of his mouth.
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Post by DEX on Jan 9, 2017 15:44:44 GMT
I just hope the Chinese don't take him "literally" when he says something insulting to them.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 9, 2017 15:44:54 GMT
Spinning top Kelleyann has topped herself. (Haha note pun) She was being questioned this morning about dt's comments about the disabled reporter. She said we're not supposed to take anything trump says literally, we're supposed to know what is in his heart! Are you kidding me?? She actually said that. Spin me round round ... Like a record, baby, right round, round, round...
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 9, 2017 15:54:02 GMT
I think what is in his heart is worse than what comes out of his mouth.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 9, 2017 15:55:07 GMT
Re: kellyanne Conway: I wonder, when she says things like that does she throw up in her mouth a little?? 'cause I certainly would if I had to say those kinds of things with a straight face...
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Post by linda~lou on Jan 9, 2017 15:57:32 GMT
Re: kellyanne Conway: I wonder, when she says things like that does she throw up in her mouth a little?? 'cause I certainly would if I had to say those kinds of things with a straight face... I think she gets paid very, very, very well. I do wonder how she sleeps at night.
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Post by micheley on Jan 9, 2017 15:58:08 GMT
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Post by pyccku on Jan 9, 2017 16:00:51 GMT
I'm waiting for companies to start preemptively stealing his thunder.
"Fiat is announcing that we are building a new plant, which will result in 2000 new jobs. Mr. Trump had nothing to do with this decision, nor was he involved in any way in the planning of this endeavor."
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 9, 2017 16:02:43 GMT
I'm waiting for companies to start preemptively stealing his thunder. "Fiat is announcing that we are building a new plant, which will result in 2000 new jobs. Mr. Trump had nothing to do with this decision, nor was he involved in any way in the planning of this endeavor." oh, how I WISH they would start doing this!!!
Or at least add in the "Mr. Trump had NOTHING to do with this decision, since the decision-making processes are started YEARS before the announcements are made" part of things.
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Post by trollie on Jan 9, 2017 16:10:39 GMT
Spinning top Kelleyanne has topped herself. (Haha note pun) She was being questioned this morning about dt's comments about the disabled reporter. She said we're not supposed to take anything trump says literally, we're supposed to know what is in his heart! Are you kidding me?? She actually said that. Spin me round round ... Found actual quote. Conway: Judge Trump by what's in his heart, not what comes out of his mouth. What the actual?
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Post by MorningPerson on Jan 9, 2017 16:24:58 GMT
Spinning top Kelleyanne has topped herself. (Haha note pun) She was being questioned this morning about dt's comments about the disabled reporter. She said we're not supposed to take anything trump says literally, we're supposed to know what is in his heart! Are you kidding me?? She actually said that. Spin me round round ... Found actual quote. Conway: Judge Trump by what's in his heart, not what comes out of his mouth. This makes me feel like my head is going to explode. "Hey, he's gonna say stuff, but you shouldn't pay attention to most of it. We'll let you know which stuff he meant when we see what the public reaction is." SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 16:35:25 GMT
Spinning top Kelleyanne has topped herself. (Haha note pun) She was being questioned this morning about dt's comments about the disabled reporter. She said we're not supposed to take anything trump says literally, we're supposed to know what is in his heart! Are you kidding me?? She actually said that. Spin me round round ... Found actual quote. Conway: Judge Trump by what's in his heart, not what comes out of his mouth. Actually I think columnist Paul Waldman had the perfect response to Kellyanne's dumb remark with this tweet..... "Pretty sure if what's in Trump's heart was ever exposed our faces would melt like the guy at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark."
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 9, 2017 17:04:43 GMT
Re: kellyanne Conway: I wonder, when she says things like that does she throw up in her mouth a little?? 'cause I certainly would if I had to say those kinds of things with a straight face... I think she gets paid very, very, very well. I do wonder how she sleeps at night. I think she has to believe what she is saying at this point. The more you lie, the easier it is to fool yourself and start believing the lies.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 9, 2017 17:08:25 GMT
^^^ that almost makes it a little bit understandable... if she does believe what she's saying, then it's (a little) less repugnant of her to be saying such bullshit statements.
Still, what she's saying is a crock of shit, of course-- because we all know that all ANYONE has to go on, unless they REALLY know someone VERY well, is what they SAY and DO. And we don't KNOW Donald Trump (thank goodness, lol) so what we see of him and hear him say is all we can go on.
Why that seems to be such a foreign concept to their marketing team is really mystifying to me. (and I mean 'marketing' team, because after all, he's a BRAND name, not a person, and is portraying himself as such. Might as well call it what it is.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 17:18:21 GMT
You know, Streep didn't specifically name him so her comment can be directed at anyone who is in a power position. A principal, a pastor, a city Mayor, a governor and yes, the President. It's a reminder that we should not tolerate bullying or intimidation from anyone. Yes, I know her whole speech was against Trump but the line about those in power bullying can be applied to anyone and we should remember that. Exactly! and if he's taken what she said personally it's obviously hit a nerve. As I said in my earlier post " it takes one to know one"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 17:26:25 GMT
Re: kellyanne Conway: I wonder, when she says things like that does she throw up in her mouth a little?? 'cause I certainly would if I had to say those kinds of things with a straight face... I think she gets paid very, very, very well. I do wonder how she sleeps at night. But selling your soul to the devil never ends as well as one would expect it to.
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