caro
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Post by caro on Aug 14, 2014 20:27:28 GMT
So we are preschool teachers, about 14 in our group. We have had two training classes this week and 4 of my fellow teachers were talking, laughing and generally rude during both of the presentations.
Today was the worst. They talked continually while the presenter talked. They laughed and joked with each other. It was a music and young child class and really very good and informative. The presenter gave us all instruments and we played and had fun with music.
These teachers hit each other with the instruments, kicked the person's chair in front of them.
It just shocks me. They were acting like 2 year olds. The director gave them looks at two different times but they didn't stop.
I felt bad for the presenter this morning. She looked at this group twice herself and stopped her presentation but they kept on.
I don't know if the Director will speak to these women or not. And they call themselves Christians. It is a private Christian school.
Ok, vent over.
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Post by mzza111 on Aug 14, 2014 20:37:27 GMT
I partially fault the presenter. She should have been in control of her presentation and politely told them to STFU and if that's didn't work ask them to leave.
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Post by leannec on Aug 14, 2014 20:41:15 GMT
I'm a teacher and have been in some seriously booooring in-services but that is no excuse to act like a loser ... have some respect for the presenter ... get in and get out ...
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Post by caro on Aug 14, 2014 20:42:23 GMT
Should the presenter say something or should the Director have said something? It was a mandatory class for our certification.
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 14, 2014 20:53:55 GMT
I don't know if the Director will speak to these women or not. And they call themselves Christians. It is a private Christian school. Not every Christian is a Christian, if you know what I mean. Sorry you had to go through that.
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Post by maryland on Aug 14, 2014 20:57:59 GMT
That's so rude! I can't imagine teachers acting like 2 yr. olds during a presentation. If I was the director, I would have given them a warning, then if they kept misbehaving, I would have asked them to leave. How disrespectful to the poor presenter. My husband is an engineer and gives presentations every few months all over the country. He has never had people act like that at his presentations. It's mostly fellow engineers and they are always a great audience.
Maybe the preschoolers could give their teachers lessons on how to be respectful and listen.
So sorry you had to be embarrassed by the behavior of your co-workers.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Aug 14, 2014 20:59:45 GMT
I don't think being Christian has anything to do with it. i think everyone has the ability to act a fool and its a shame these ladies couldn't give the presenter enough respect to pay attention. I really hope the boss or whoever is in charge pulls them aside and tells them to cut their crap out. Did any of the other teachers think to say anything to these women?
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Post by hop2 on Aug 14, 2014 21:31:18 GMT
Should the presenter say something or should the Director have said something? It was a mandatory class for our certification. I would have said they needed to pay attention or risk not getting their necessary mandatory credit. Wether the presenter said it or the director it wouldn't matter. They should not receive credit if the can not pay attention. In our High school the kids who act like this are sent to ISS and the loose the credit for that day, which if that happens enough time they do loose credit for their class. Why should anyone expect less of professional teachers than is expected of high school students.
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Post by River on Aug 14, 2014 21:37:26 GMT
Wow..Just Wow!
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Post by tanyab on Aug 14, 2014 21:42:45 GMT
I'm a para. I have been to countless trainings over the years with teachers. I was floored when I saw teachers on their laptops doing games like candy crush and shopping online during trainings! At the last training I attended one teacher had a crossword puzzle book and was doing those while the presenter was speaking. Nearly every teacher (and there were admins there too) was doing something other than listening. I guess it's the norm, though, since no one ever seems the least bit annoyed by it.
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Post by caro on Aug 14, 2014 21:48:36 GMT
We were asked in the beginning to keep our phones silenced and put away unless we had an emergent type situation where we might need to be contacted. If so we had to tell the Director.
So electronics were not the problem surprisingly. Who would have thought these teachers would have acted this way.
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Post by peasful1 on Aug 14, 2014 22:33:04 GMT
I would have asked them to stop. Loudly. If they want to waste their time, that's one thing. But to infringe on my learning? No. Nt happening. Why didn't you just say something to them yourself?
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Post by mallie on Aug 14, 2014 22:39:50 GMT
There is no expectation of attentiveness any more, even in professional situations. It drives me craaazy in my own workplace because one of the muckitymucks started bringing his tablet into meetings and playing on it, so then all the directors started doing it too. One of our directors makes no attempt to hide that she's watching funny cat videos during every meeting -- including meetings she's supposed to be running. We recently had a meeting with a training and the trainer actually stopped and asked her if she'd like to share her funny videos with the class and... she did! I thought the trainer's head was going to explode. She said something to the muckitymuck about how rude that director was and the muckitymuck just shrugged and said, "People are busy. You can't expect people to pay attention." Somehow I don't think that trainer -- who did the work gratis -- will EVER come back. Makes my blood boil.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 14, 2014 22:51:03 GMT
As the presenter, I would have stopped and asked them to leave or pay attention. As an audience member, if I felt comfortable (I am new at my position so I wouldn't this year, but I would have last year), I would ask them to tone it down so I could hear
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Post by caro on Aug 14, 2014 22:57:29 GMT
I would have asked them to stop. Loudly. If they want to waste their time, that's one thing. But to infringe on my learning? No. Nt happening. Why didn't you just say something to them yourself? Because I did not think that was my place.
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Post by sharlag on Aug 14, 2014 23:27:52 GMT
I'm a pretty relaxed person, but I'd have been seething.
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Post by kellybelly77 on Aug 14, 2014 23:33:00 GMT
We held a webinar training at work awhile ago and while I wasn't presenting I was the lead on the project. People were talking, answering cell phones, typing and shuffling around. I had to speak up twice and tell them to knock it off or learn how to use the freaking mute button on their telephone. People are rude.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 23:40:35 GMT
I'd have had no problem saying, "Hey, some of us are trying to listen. Could you stop being disruptive?" I've done it in a couple of different situations. Their actions reflect badly on the entire group.
I sure hope the director takes each teacher aside and reprimands them. They really should apologize to the presenter, as well. Very disrespectful. And I guarantee if they had been the presenter, they'd have expected some respect shown to them.
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Post by scrapaddie on Aug 14, 2014 23:53:54 GMT
Unfortunately, this is not uncommon. I made certain not to sit next to certain teachers because I knew I would have a hard time hearing anything at all during the presentation. It really looked to me that a teacher, who would never tolerate that in her own classroom, would be so rude!
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Post by annaintx on Aug 15, 2014 0:56:30 GMT
I can't stand that kind of thing. At all. I work in teacher education--sometimes in my classes (when I was teaching the methods course for secondary English) students would be so rude, talking to each other, playing on the computer, etc., and I'd stop and ask them, "Is that something you will allow your students to do when you are teaching? No?? Then why are you doing it now?" They hadn't ever thought about it that way.
I would have said to them, "Do you let your students act like that??!!?"
Craziness.
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Post by julieinmd on Aug 15, 2014 0:59:23 GMT
I've been in a similar situation and it makes me very upset to see other teachers acting this way. Of course teachers can get tired and silly but I think it is reasonable to have some expectation of self control. I have to give credit to our principal - If she sees something like this going on she will put a stop to it. I think if I had been the presenter I would have been frustrated enough to say something. But not every presenter is comfortable confronting others - they may be experts on their topic, but probably don't anticipate having to manage the behavior of the group. I don't blame the presenter but I do think someone who was in charge should have stepped in. The director should speak to the people involved and I think an apology to the presenter is in order. Sorry you had to deal with this. Sometimes it seems like civility is out the window but I've found that many people are still respectful and polite.
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Post by anonrefugee on Aug 15, 2014 1:05:06 GMT
Am I the only Refugee finding this depressing? I was hoping it was just my little world, not so common.
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Post by caro on Aug 15, 2014 1:50:50 GMT
I find it depressing that so many people don't show respect in meetings. I didn't 't realize it was a problem until I posted here.
These 4 teachers who were acting out try to one up each other in who can be the most sarcastic or crude whenever we have luncheons or casual meetings. It gets tiring. But I was surprised today. I thought they would have more respect.
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Post by Country Ham on Aug 15, 2014 2:15:54 GMT
And they call themselves Christians. It is a private Christian school. Ok, vent over. ... and yet here you are complaining/venting/gossiping about them
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Post by caro on Aug 15, 2014 2:20:16 GMT
And they call themselves Christians. It is a private Christian school. Ok, vent over. ... and yet here you are complaining/venting/gossiping about them That's not Christian ? It's a vent and now I know it happens in many other settings. Learn something new everyday.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 15, 2014 2:27:04 GMT
I leave my phone in my purse all day. I don't take it out. I feel like I am getting paid a lot of money to do a good job. If someone really needs to get a hold of me, they can call the building. I am not perfect in all meetings, but I do move my chair away from yakking people. That drives me crazy.
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Post by JBeans on Aug 15, 2014 3:55:16 GMT
Should the presenter say something or should the Director have said something? It was a mandatory class for our certification. If I was teaching a class as a presenter on a mandatory class, I would have been stopping the presentation and asking them to cork it or they would be leaving. But I am a bitch like that.
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Post by traceys on Aug 15, 2014 5:19:04 GMT
I find it depressing that so many people don't show respect in meetings. I didn't 't realize it was a problem until I posted here. These 4 teachers who were acting out try to one up each other in who can be the most sarcastic or crude whenever we have luncheons or casual meetings. It gets tiring. But I was surprised today. I thought they would have more respect. It was not unheard of in training meetings when I was working either. I do think that their boss (the director) should have handled the situation. Presenters shouldn't be expected to do discipline with adults in a professional setting, IMO.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 15, 2014 6:13:32 GMT
And they call themselves Christians. It is a private Christian school. Ok, vent over. ... and yet here you are complaining/venting/gossiping about them And here you are chastising her for doing so. The trainer should have told them to shut up or leave.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 15, 2014 14:03:25 GMT
This has been going on my whole career, and is only getting worse with electronic devices. I always stand up and move to a different seat, but I'm finding it increasingly hard to find a quiet group. When my boss chastises the talkers, they get offended. Go figure.
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