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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 23:05:46 GMT
I have several thoughts on these marches. First, WHERE were these people during the election?  I am having a hard time understanding the ire when they could have used the power of their vote. Am I wrong on this? Do you think ALL these people used their votes against Trump? Sure lots did, I am sure. Second, for all the Pro Trumpers here on the board who have been saying we are just sore losers, let this be a notice to you that this is FAR more about "not winning". People are just as alarmed as many of us here. Seriously, put that to bed. Next, it is very disconcerting that there is world wide protests AGAINST him. There was even a march here in Rabat! For those of you relishing in his "cock of the walk" speak, this isn't Texas Ranger. If you think that the US does not need the global community for it's community, you are sadly mistaken. Last, if you and I mean ANY of you think Trump gives a shit about you, you are wrong. Even those of you that voted for Trump, I don't believe he is going to do anything for you. He and his family were bowling in the White House while MILLIONS are marching all over the country and the world. He went to the CIA and was more concerned about his f$&@ing crowd sizes!!!! If you are not white, wealthy or Christian, the lights have gone dark. I do not believe any of these marches will make one bit of difference. |
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Post by kellybelly77 on Jan 21, 2017 23:12:02 GMT
I was here, voting for Bernie!
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Post by valleyview on Jan 21, 2017 23:17:10 GMT
After watching this evening's press briefing, I believe that he has noticed. That is precisely why they are making a big deal about yesterday's crowd size.
I do believe that women did vote against DT. The marches were largest in areas that went Democratic. Also, many people did not participate in the 2016 election because their states were so red.
These marches are important. They were important in the Civil Rights movement, in the Viet Nam War movement, and Gay Rights movement. It may not be instant, but I think that it will matter.
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Post by lisae on Jan 21, 2017 23:20:06 GMT
I know some women who went to one about 35 miles from me. They did vote for Clinton.
I think we have a better chance with our senators and representatives in convincing them of our opinions on various issues.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 23:21:43 GMT
The last time there were these kind of demonstrations after a presidents inaugural was Nixon's second term. He didn't last long as he had to resign. So here's hoping history repeats itself. But instead of it happening in a second term lets hope it happens in the first term.
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Post by Rainbow on Jan 21, 2017 23:22:19 GMT
They had the nerve to go bowling on the weekend? Good for them.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jan 21, 2017 23:24:05 GMT
They had the nerve to go bowling on the weekend? Good for them. ...or fiddle while Rome is burning... |
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Post by ahiller on Jan 21, 2017 23:45:48 GMT
If you are not white, wealthy or Christian, the lights have gone dark. I do not believe any of these marches will make one bit of difference. I agree it won't make a bit of difference with Trump but I absolutely believe it will make a difference with citizens. People are inspired and fired up and ready to fight. I hope it will translate into more active engagement in this country's politics, encourage people to pick up their phones and call their representative and to SHOW UP to vote. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 23:52:33 GMT
They had the nerve to go bowling on the weekend? Good for them. ...or fiddle while Rome is burning... Exactly my point! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 23:55:00 GMT
If you are not white, wealthy or Christian, the lights have gone dark. I do not believe any of these marches will make one bit of difference. I agree it won't make a bit of difference with Trump but I absolutely believe it will make a difference with citizens. People are inspired and fired up and ready to fight. I hope it will translate into more active engagement in this country's politics, encourage people to pick up their phones and call their representative and to SHOW UP to vote. I really really hope you are right. I am TRULY concerned. Foreign chatter is not good and not hopeful about his presidency. People are really worried about escalating conflicts. |
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Post by Rainbow on Jan 21, 2017 23:58:09 GMT
They had the nerve to go bowling on the weekend? Good for them. ...or fiddle while Rome is burning... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 23:58:21 GMT
If you are not white, wealthy or Christian, the lights have gone dark. I do not believe any of these marches will make one bit of difference. I agree it won't make a bit of difference with Trump but I absolutely believe it will make a difference with citizens. People are inspired and fired up and ready to fight. I hope it will translate into more active engagement in this country's politics, encourage people to pick up their phones and call their representative and to SHOW UP to vote. But the non-wealthy are the ones who voted for him...and many hispanic as well. He would not have taken Florida without them. There was a lot of quiet and a lot of discouragement immediately after the election. I think the majority (who didn't vote for him) needed this for themselves as much as anything else, to remind ourselves of our strength and to begin a conversation about what needs to change over the next four years. SaveSave |
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Post by Sarah*H on Jan 22, 2017 0:02:38 GMT
They voted for her. This is why Trump lost the popular vote by over 3 million votes. Even his electoral college victory came down to a few thousand voters in each of three states.
I think the miscalculation he's made in dismissing this and claiming a mandate is how many run of the mill, unenthusiastic voters he's now turned into activists.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2017 0:05:20 GMT
I agree it won't make a bit of difference with Trump but I absolutely believe it will make a difference with citizens. People are inspired and fired up and ready to fight. I hope it will translate into more active engagement in this country's politics, encourage people to pick up their phones and call their representative and to SHOW UP to vote. But the non-wealthy are the ones who voted for him...and many hispanic as well. He would not have taken Florida without them. There was a lot of quiet and a lot of discouragement immediately after the election. I think the majority (who didn't vote for him) needed this for themselves as much as anything else, to remind ourselves of our strength and to begin a conversation about what needs to change over the next four years. SaveSaveThe ball was dropped at election time, but I believe that is going to make a stronger, more vocal and active group of people to ensure this never happens again. |
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Post by elaine on Jan 22, 2017 0:08:30 GMT
They weren't "anti-Trump" protests. They were PRO-women's and all people's equal rights marches.
I think labeling them as "anti-Trump" protests dismisses all of what they actually were about and makes it easier to brush away the specific varied concerns people were shouting to ALL of their legislators, not simply the clown we have for President.
pro-choice, pro-equal treatment for LGBTQ, POC, Women; religious freedom for all; Pro-healthcare; pro-education; pro-Planned Parenthood
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Post by Peal on Jan 22, 2017 0:13:52 GMT
I think no one was marching against Trump during the campaign because no one actually thought he could win. I don't know anyone who wasn't shocked he won.
I don't know if the marches will do any good or not. But doing nothing for sure wont do any good.
He seems to have a very "let them eat cake" sort of attitude to the common man I think. He's king and his royal family gets to play with the royal toys/funds, don't bother him with your "petty complaints" it can't possibly be that bad. We'll see how long the American people will put up with that. Some will forever. Hopefully, most wont.
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Post by jenis40 on Jan 22, 2017 0:15:03 GMT
They weren't "anti-Trump" protests. They were PRO-women's and all people's equal rights marches. I think labeling them as "anti-Trump" protests dismisses all of what they actually were about and makes it easier to brush away the specific varied concerns people were shouting to ALL of their legislators, not simply the clown we have for President. pro-choice, pro-equal treatment for LGBTQ, POC, Women; religious freedom for all; Pro-healthcare; pro-education; pro-Planned Parenthood ^^^^ This! |
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Post by padresfan619 on Jan 22, 2017 0:21:18 GMT
I wasn't marching against Trump, I was marching for my sisters, refugees, Muslims, immigrants, Planned Parenthood, closing the wage gap, and so much more. I am revitalized and reinvigorated for the 2018 midterm elections.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2017 1:28:55 GMT
...or fiddle while Rome is burning... I beg to differ. The marchers were pleased to see such turnouts, were empowered and your attitude is exactly why his term will be challenged, watched, criticized, called out and last no more than 4 years. #womensmarchgoingtokeepamericaprogressing |
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Post by elaine on Jan 22, 2017 1:35:32 GMT
That there were similar marches around the world also attests to this being about more important and universal issues than Trump.
People around the world - led by WOMEN - marched for Human Rights.
I hope that in the weeks, months, years to come history is able to look at this miraculous day where incredibly large marches were held across our nation and around the world and there was NO VIOLENCE. The main difference from other marches throughout history: these were women's marches which had substantial participation by men, but they weren't the organizers, nor did they set the agendas.
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Post by cajeanne on Jan 22, 2017 2:04:10 GMT
He and his family were bowling in the White House Huh, you mean kind of like former President Obama on the golf course during several crisis events? God forbid they should have a little downtime after the past 18 months.  |
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Post by Country Ham on Jan 22, 2017 2:11:35 GMT
I have several thoughts on these marches. Last, if you and I mean ANY of you think Trump gives a shit about you, you are wrong. Even those of you that voted for Trump, I don't believe he is going to do anything for you. He and his family were bowling in the White House while MILLIONS are marching all over the country and the world. He went to the CIA and was more concerned about his f$&@ing crowd sizes!!!! If you are not white, wealthy or Christian, the lights have gone dark. I do not believe any of these marches will make one bit of difference. On the same token I don't believe the women are marching for all women either. I saw this cartoon on FB a few minutes ago and it's pretty on mark.  Save |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2017 2:17:55 GMT
I have several thoughts on these marches. Last, if you and I mean ANY of you think Trump gives a shit about you, you are wrong. Even those of you that voted for Trump, I don't believe he is going to do anything for you. He and his family were bowling in the White House while MILLIONS are marching all over the country and the world. He went to the CIA and was more concerned about his f$&@ing crowd sizes!!!! If you are not white, wealthy or Christian, the lights have gone dark. I do not believe any of these marches will make one bit of difference. On the same token I don't believe the women are marching for all women either. I saw this cartoon on FB a few minutes ago and it's pretty on mark. SaveMarchers everywhere were not if this attitude--our local was including everyone. So I'm sure it has happened--it does happen everywhere. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 22, 2017 2:29:46 GMT
Country Ham...I think you make a good point. I usually vote Republican. I am prolife. I am pro women's rights, equality, gay rights. I did not march today because I had seen some of the signs and heard some of the commentary and honestly I did not feel welcome. I support those of you who did. Ultimately I enjoy seeing people getting engaged in politics.
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Post by elaine on Jan 22, 2017 2:40:03 GMT
I have several thoughts on these marches. Last, if you and I mean ANY of you think Trump gives a shit about you, you are wrong. Even those of you that voted for Trump, I don't believe he is going to do anything for you. He and his family were bowling in the White House while MILLIONS are marching all over the country and the world. He went to the CIA and was more concerned about his f$&@ing crowd sizes!!!! If you are not white, wealthy or Christian, the lights have gone dark. I do not believe any of these marches will make one bit of difference. On the same token I don't believe the women are marching for all women either. I saw this cartoon on FB a few minutes ago and it's pretty on mark. SaveNo one prevents pro-life women from having babies - why would they need to march for that purpose? That said, no one is against pro-life women. No one. They would have been welcome. Many of the women and men marching ARE against supposed "pro-life" LEGISLATION that dictates what other women CAN DO with their own bodies. I'm positive there were plenty of pro-life women today at the march in DC who didn't feel the need to try to force their decisions on other people. Every single person can live a pro-life lifestyle and never have an abortion without forcing their decision on everybody else. And pro-choice women/marchers would never try to force women to have abortions via legislation, nor would they try to make a pregnant woman feel awful about her choice to bear a child. Nor would she be unable to voice her pride in choosing to bear children. So, being pro-life is a completely NON-ISSUE. Trying to legislate your beliefs on other people's bodies - BIG ISSUE. |
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Post by LeaP on Jan 22, 2017 2:44:04 GMT
They voted for her. This is why Trump lost the popular vote by over 3 million votes. Even his electoral college victory came down to a few thousand voters in each of three states. I think the miscalculation he's made in dismissing this and claiming a mandate is how many run of the mill, unenthusiastic voters he's now turned into activists. As Isoroku Yamamoto said about the attack on Pearl Harbor, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." Just substitute him for her. Women can organize and make their voices heard. SaveSave |
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Post by PLurker on Jan 22, 2017 2:44:46 GMT
On the same token I don't believe the women are marching for all women either. I saw this cartoon on FB a few minutes ago and it's pretty on mark. SaveNo one prevents pro-life women from having babies - why would they need to march for that purpose? That said, no one is against pro-life women. No one. They would have been welcome. Many of the women and men marching ARE against supposed "pro-life" LEGISLATION that dictates what other women CAN DO with their own bodies. I'm positive there were plenty of pro-life women today at the march in DC who didn't feel the need to try to force their decisions on other people. Every single person can live a pro-life lifestyle and never have an abortion without forcing their decision on everybody else. And pro-choice women/marchers would never try to force women to have abortions via legislation, nor would they try to make a pregnant woman feel awful about her choice to bear a child. Nor would she be unable to voice her pride in choosing to bear children. So, being pro-life is a completely NON-ISSUE. Trying to legislate your beliefs on other people's bodies - BIG ISSUE. Thanks elaine. Kinda what I was thinking but couldn't/didn't express. jeremysgirl I'm sorry you didn't feel welcome.  Wish you had enough to go and probably been pleasantly surprised. |
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Post by peano on Jan 22, 2017 2:45:38 GMT
I have several thoughts on these marches. Last, if you and I mean ANY of you think Trump gives a shit about you, you are wrong. Even those of you that voted for Trump, I don't believe he is going to do anything for you. He and his family were bowling in the White House while MILLIONS are marching all over the country and the world. He went to the CIA and was more concerned about his f$&@ing crowd sizes!!!! If you are not white, wealthy or Christian, the lights have gone dark. I do not believe any of these marches will make one bit of difference. On the same token I don't believe the women are marching for all women either. I saw this cartoon on FB a few minutes ago and it's pretty on mark. SaveOK, don't believe it. I certainly can't speak for the thousands of men and women who marched today, but I know for a fact that I'd welcome any woman of any belief who wants to peacefully protest unless her protest involves trying to strip my legal rights away. If you are personally against abortion--great--don't have an abortion. Just don't try to impose your beliefs on me. |
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Post by padresfan619 on Jan 22, 2017 2:54:35 GMT
There is a huge misconception that a person who is pro-choice is also pro-abortion. I am pro-choice, but my personal belief for my own body is that I would carry any safe pregnancy to term. That is my *choice* other women are allowed to make their own *choice*. It is when you try to take away that *choice* that I have an issue with your beliefs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 3:15:30 GMT
I have several thoughts on these marches. Last, if you and I mean ANY of you think Trump gives a shit about you, you are wrong. Even those of you that voted for Trump, I don't believe he is going to do anything for you. He and his family were bowling in the White House while MILLIONS are marching all over the country and the world. He went to the CIA and was more concerned about his f$&@ing crowd sizes!!!! If you are not white, wealthy or Christian, the lights have gone dark. I do not believe any of these marches will make one bit of difference. On the same token I don't believe the women are marching for all women either. I saw this cartoon on FB a few minutes ago and it's pretty on mark. SaveWRONG. I've heard personally from a couple of people who attended marches. Pro choice AND pro life groups were there. |
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I am having a hard time understanding the ire when they could have used the power of their vote. Am I wrong on this? Do you think ALL these people used their votes against Trump? Sure lots did, I am sure.
Wish you had enough to go and probably been pleasantly surprised.
