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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 16:42:09 GMT
Post the GOP non-vote on ACA repeal/replace, many are asking, is the GOP too diverse to coalesce on solutions?  Probably, amirite? You've got young middle-aged Christian white male, middle middle-aged Christian white male and older middle-aged Christian white male. I mean, how's that ever going to work? |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 25, 2017 16:44:53 GMT
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Post by micheley on Mar 25, 2017 17:06:11 GMT
Definitely too diverse. They should ALL be older white Christian males.
Now excuse me, I need to get back in the kitchen to make my man a sandwich and then bake him a pie.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 25, 2017 17:12:11 GMT
I'm glad all the guys with dark hair are on the back row...it's a slippery slope.
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Post by hollymolly on Mar 25, 2017 17:45:47 GMT
I agree. They have several bald white Christian males, a couple with gray hair, and even a guy with either blond or red hair, although it may just be light brown. With so many different hair colors, not to mention hair styles, how will they ever come to a consensus?
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Post by gar on Mar 25, 2017 17:47:25 GMT
The guy with the beard is obviously a token gesture.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Mar 25, 2017 18:11:55 GMT
The only thing diverse about that group is the color of their ties.
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Post by quiltz on Mar 25, 2017 18:12:11 GMT
How do you know that they are all Christian? Simply being white-skinned and male does not indicate that they are Christian.
I am Canadian and religion doesn't come into factor in most of our politics. I never knew what religion our last PM was (Mr. Harper) but do know that Mr. Trudeau was baptized and married in a Catholic church.
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Post by Really Red on Mar 25, 2017 18:19:01 GMT
I'm pretty sure this picture is of a group of Christian right wing tea party like people. It is not just all the Republicans
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Post by myshelly on Mar 25, 2017 18:23:19 GMT
How do you know that they are all Christian? Simply being white-skinned and male does not indicate that they are Christian. I am Canadian and religion doesn't come into factor in most of our politics. I never knew what religion our last PM was (Mr. Harper) but do know that Mr. Trudeau was baptized and married in a Catholic church. I wish I could explain how pervasive religion is in American politics and American culture. We know they are Christian because they talk about it relentlessly, are questioned about it relentlessly, use it as a campaign point, use it to attack their opponents, use it to attack those who disagree with them, There's not a single politician on the national stage whose religion hasn't been examined, questioned, and spoken about ad nauseum. |
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Post by Zee on Mar 25, 2017 18:24:40 GMT
How do you know that they are all Christian? Simply being white-skinned and male does not indicate that they are Christian. I am Canadian and religion doesn't come into factor in most of our politics. I never knew what religion our last PM was (Mr. Harper) but do know that Mr. Trudeau was baptized and married in a Catholic church. Unfortunately for us, you know that religion comes with politics here. It's true that we can't say just by looking that those are all Christian men, though it's probably a safe bet given the current party platform. |
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Post by quiltz on Mar 25, 2017 18:34:53 GMT
I wish I could explain how pervasive religion is in American politics and American culture. We know they are Christian because they talk about it relentlessly, are questioned about it relentlessly, use it as a campaign point, use it to attack their opponents, use it to attack those who disagree with them, There's not a single politician on the national stage whose religion hasn't been examined, questioned, and spoken about ad nauseum. Unfortunately for us, you know that religion comes with politics here. It's true that we can't say just by looking that those are all Christian men, though it's probably a safe bet given the current party platform. ******* Thanks for this information. I was aware that religion was a factor in your politics. I also will say that my personal definition of a "Christian" is probably very different from your definitions. We have many politicians with various lifestyles and religions, as the Premier of Ontario is a Lesbian and there are several Sikhs and many other faiths in our Federal & Provincial governments. |
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Post by hollymolly on Mar 25, 2017 18:46:19 GMT
I wish I could explain how pervasive religion is in American politics and American culture. We know they are Christian because they talk about it relentlessly, are questioned about it relentlessly, use it as a campaign point, use it to attack their opponents, use it to attack those who disagree with them, There's not a single politician on the national stage whose religion hasn't been examined, questioned, and spoken about ad nauseum. Unfortunately for us, you know that religion comes with politics here. It's true that we can't say just by looking that those are all Christian men, though it's probably a safe bet given the current party platform. ******* Thanks for this information. I was aware that religion was a factor in your politics. I also will say that my personal definition of a "Christian" is probably very different from your definitions. We have many politicians with various lifestyles and religions, as the Premier of Ontario is a Lesbian and there are several Sikhs and many other faiths in our Federal & Provincial governments. I should probably have typed "Christian" but it's so pervasive here that I forget to make the distinction. I am a Christian myself, but I'm pretty sure my definition of why I believe myself to be a Christian is different from most of the politicians in that picture. I'm sure there are some whom I wouldn't define as an actual Christian by my standards, and I'm sure there are some who would not define me as a true Christian by their standards. I say Christian in reference to the white men in the GOP because that is how they label themselves. I haven't done the research, so I can't say that every white male congressman in the GOP claims to be a Christian, but I believe it is part of their party platform. I'd be willing to bet actual money that every person in that picture has publicly claimed to be a Christian. |
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Post by Zee on Mar 25, 2017 18:47:00 GMT
I wish I could explain how pervasive religion is in American politics and American culture. We know they are Christian because they talk about it relentlessly, are questioned about it relentlessly, use it as a campaign point, use it to attack their opponents, use it to attack those who disagree with them, There's not a single politician on the national stage whose religion hasn't been examined, questioned, and spoken about ad nauseum. Unfortunately for us, you know that religion comes with politics here. It's true that we can't say just by looking that those are all Christian men, though it's probably a safe bet given the current party platform. ******* Thanks for this information. I was aware that religion was a factor in your politics. I also will say that my personal definition of a "Christian" is probably very different from your definitions. We have many politicians with various lifestyles and religions, as the Premier of Ontario is a Lesbian and there are several Sikhs and many other faiths in our Federal & Provincial governments. I don't know what your definition is, but mine is someone who identifies as a Christian. Pretty simple. It's not a Republican exclusive, but there is no question that a majority of Republicans identify themselves as Christians, many as conservative Christians. |
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Post by withapea on Mar 25, 2017 18:55:00 GMT
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Post by hollymolly on Mar 25, 2017 18:58:23 GMT
Thank you! So I was close. There are two Jewish Republicans in Congress. |
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Post by Judy26 on Mar 25, 2017 19:05:20 GMT
I may be wrong but I'm thinking the diversity they are talking about is how far to the right each member is leaning and how much money from the Koch brothers they are getting.
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Post by pierogi on Mar 25, 2017 19:10:55 GMT
I wish I could explain how pervasive religion is in American politics and American culture. We know they are Christian because they talk about it relentlessly, are questioned about it relentlessly, use it as a campaign point, use it to attack their opponents, use it to attack those who disagree with them, There's not a single politician on the national stage whose religion hasn't been examined, questioned, and spoken about ad nauseum. Unfortunately for us, you know that religion comes with politics here. It's true that we can't say just by looking that those are all Christian men, though it's probably a safe bet given the current party platform. ******* Thanks for this information. I was aware that religion was a factor in your politics. I also will say that my personal definition of a "Christian" is probably very different from your definitions. We have many politicians with various lifestyles and religions, as the Premier of Ontario is a Lesbian and there are several Sikhs and many other faiths in our Federal & Provincial governments. I'm pretty sure that Jesus' definition of Christian is very different from what those men espouse. |
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Post by gar on Mar 25, 2017 20:03:23 GMT
How do you know that they are all Christian? Simply being white-skinned and male does not indicate that they are Christian. I am Canadian and religion doesn't come into factor in most of our politics. I never knew what religion our last PM was (Mr. Harper) but do know that Mr. Trudeau was baptized and married in a Catholic church. I wish I could explain how pervasive religion is in American politics and American culture. We know they are Christian because they talk about it relentlessly, are questioned about it relentlessly, use it as a campaign point, use it to attack their opponents, use it to attack those who disagree with them, There's not a single politician on the national stage whose religion hasn't been examined, questioned, and spoken about ad nauseum. As an atheist, the thought of our politics being so influenced by religion horrifies me. I just can't imagine how unrepresented I'd feel. |
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Post by withapea on Mar 25, 2017 20:15:34 GMT
I wish I could explain how pervasive religion is in American politics and American culture. We know they are Christian because they talk about it relentlessly, are questioned about it relentlessly, use it as a campaign point, use it to attack their opponents, use it to attack those who disagree with them, There's not a single politician on the national stage whose religion hasn't been examined, questioned, and spoken about ad nauseum. As an atheist, the thought of our politics being so influenced by religion horrifies me. I just can't imagine how unrepresented I'd feel. It's really very frustrating and I do feel pretty much voiceless in many regards, especially as one who lives in a very red state in the bible belt. It also becomes very tiresome to hear the frequent cries of religious persecution by those who have ALL the power and are consistently trying to legislate their religious views into public policy. SaveSave |
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Post by Zee on Mar 25, 2017 20:20:34 GMT
I wish I could explain how pervasive religion is in American politics and American culture. We know they are Christian because they talk about it relentlessly, are questioned about it relentlessly, use it as a campaign point, use it to attack their opponents, use it to attack those who disagree with them, There's not a single politician on the national stage whose religion hasn't been examined, questioned, and spoken about ad nauseum. As an atheist, the thought of our politics being so influenced by religion horrifies me. I just can't imagine how unrepresented I'd feel. I'm agnostic and yes, it is annoying. The few politicians who are openly atheist tend to be a bit too liberally extreme for my taste, not that I've had a chance to be represented by one of them since it's virtually impossible for an open atheist to be elected to office in most parts of this country. It would be very refreshing if we had an actual separation of church and state. Maybe someday in the future. |
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Post by PLurker on Mar 25, 2017 20:33:04 GMT
Isn't it kind of ironic that "separation of church and state" is one of those things that is taught in school history early on and often enough that it is almost a catch-phrase that most remember and say they agree with? And yet, not so much.
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Post by gar on Mar 25, 2017 20:34:07 GMT
trying to legislate their religious views into public policy. SaveSaveI know it's your reality, I've seen it spoken about here often enough but somehow I still can't get my head around it. I mean, if you're Christian everything's hunky dory but anything else? You'll have to largely live by someone else's beliefs!! Sorry, I'll get back in my box now. |
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Post by lucyg on Mar 25, 2017 20:44:54 GMT
Saving this for future reference. I love it! Does anyone know who the blue Mormon in the Senate is? Oh wait, I bet I know. That new Udall? From New Mexico, I think? And I love how every "unusual" religious choice in the House is Democratic. ha haha haha |
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Post by lucyg on Mar 25, 2017 20:46:54 GMT
trying to legislate their religious views into public policy. SaveSaveI know it's your reality, I've seen it spoken about here often enough but somehow I still can't get my head around it. I mean, if you're Christian everything's hunky dory but anything else? You'll have to largely live by someone else's beliefs!! Sorry, I'll get back in my box now. Not just that, but there is a HUGE wide range of Christian beliefs in this country, with the more conservative ones tending to be Republicans. |
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Post by gar on Mar 25, 2017 20:59:50 GMT
I see that more clearly these days lucyg... |
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Post by anxiousmom on Mar 25, 2017 21:03:51 GMT
I don't know... did you see that coke drinker among all the water people?? I mean really it seems to me they will let just about any one in their club.
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Post by dulcemama on Mar 25, 2017 21:31:03 GMT
I don't know... did you see that coke drinker among all the water people?? I mean really it seems to me they will let just about any one in their club. And there's someone there with a bottle cozy thingy too. That kind of attention seeking behavior should not be allowed in government! |
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Post by hollymolly on Mar 25, 2017 21:40:31 GMT
I know it's your reality, I've seen it spoken about here often enough but somehow I still can't get my head around it. I mean, if you're Christian everything's hunky dory but anything else? You'll have to largely live by someone else's beliefs!! Sorry, I'll get back in my box now. Not just that, but there is a HUGE wide range of Christian beliefs in this country, with the more conservative ones tending to be Republicans. Yes. As I said, I am a Christian. But I absolutely do not feel represented by the religious right in our government. They do not believe the same way I believe on a number of things, religious and secular. I would much prefer a representative of almost any other belief, religious or nonreligious, as they are less likely to legislate their beliefs onto the rest of the country. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 22:44:21 GMT
How do you know that they are all Christian? Simply being white-skinned and male does not indicate that they are Christian. I am Canadian and religion doesn't come into factor in most of our politics. I never knew what religion our last PM was (Mr. Harper) but do know that Mr. Trudeau was baptized and married in a Catholic church. How do I know? Because of the chart upthread showing that Christians control ~90% of Congress. Because non-religious are vastly underrepresented in American politics. www.npr.org/2017/01/03/508037656/non-religious-americans-remain-far-underrepresented-in-congressBecause Christian politicians constantly parade their "Christianity" like some sort of talisman. " Prayer breakfasts", "Day of Prayer", " Year of the Bible" and other such Pharisaical displays of their piety. They can quote scripture like pastors but have no idea what it means to truly live by the hard concepts of sharing and helping - no matter what. They prefer to focus on Paul's admonitions vs. Jesus'. |
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