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Post by gardengoddess on Aug 21, 2014 0:18:52 GMT
Of course she is....I can't imagine she'll do anything but have babies or appear in reality TV shows. She's been born and raised for not much else.
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 21, 2014 0:19:28 GMT
Well I prefer news about Jill Duggar Dillard over Kim Kardashian. I guess I'm weary of the awful stuff that comprises the real news right now and a little happy baby news brightens the mood for me.
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Post by Tamhugh on Aug 21, 2014 0:38:43 GMT
We were only married 4 months when I got pregnant. It was unplanned and unexpected (because BC can and does occasionally fail) and some family members made comments about how we should have waited. In a perfect world, that would have happened. In our world, it did not. But, on the flip side, we had our family young and our youngest will be graduating college when we are 50. DH and I are enjoying our time alone together now instead of at the beginning. I still cringe a little when I think of the comments and counting on fingers that happened, so I am going to just say I am happy for them and wish them a healthy and successful pregnancy.
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Post by whipea on Aug 21, 2014 0:41:32 GMT
If you think about it, with the exception of her early childhood this girl will only have had eight weeks and nine months of pretty much her entire life without the responsibility of children. Her choice/life but I find it sad that she has never had any sustained life of her own.
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 21, 2014 0:50:44 GMT
If you think about it, with the exception of her early childhood this girl will only have had eight weeks and nine months of pretty much her entire life without the responsibility of children. Her choice/life but I find it sad that she has never had any sustained life of her own. I find it sad you think the only kind of "life" that counts as a "life of her own" includes time without being responsible for children. Perhaps they would have liked to wait a little while but that's not how it worked out. Perhaps they feel children are what make life fulfilling and are perfectly content with the blessing of children regardless of the timing. Jill has a life of her own. It happens to include a wedding and a baby in close succession. It may not be your idyllic life but it's incredibly insulting to imply children are the "end of your life".
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Post by lindah on Aug 21, 2014 0:53:20 GMT
Well I prefer news about Jill Duggar Dillard over Kim Kardashian. I guess I'm weary of the awful stuff that comprises the real news right now and a little happy baby news brightens the mood for me. I totally agree with you. I am so saddened by the current events both here in the US & in other parts of our world, that this bit of happy news cheers my heart a bit.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 21, 2014 0:53:56 GMT
I confess to never having seen the show, but am bored waiting for a late flight I guess coming from a big Catholic family, this isn't exactly shocking. My mother and 6 of my 7 aunts were all pregnant within 3 months of marriage - all delivering before or within the first month of their first wedding anniversary. I know at least one had a honeymoon baby, perhaps more. I realize it's not as common now as a generation ago, but certainly not even a blip on my radar.
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Post by whipea on Aug 21, 2014 0:55:33 GMT
Sorry, forgot to quote.
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Post by whipea on Aug 21, 2014 0:58:10 GMT
If you think about it, with the exception of her early childhood this girl will only have had eight weeks and nine months of pretty much her entire life without the responsibility of children. Her choice/life but I find it sad that she has never had any sustained life of her own. I find it sad you think the only kind of "life" that counts as a "life of her own" includes time without being responsible for children. Perhaps they would have liked to wait a little while but that's not how it worked out. Perhaps they feel children are what make life fulfilling and are perfectly content with the blessing of children regardless of the timing. Jill has a life of her own. It happens to include a wedding and a baby in close succession. It may not be your idyllic life but it's incredibly insulting to imply children are the "end of your life". No implication that children are the "end of your life", that was your interpretation. It is my opinion and I find it sad. That's all.
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Post by inkedup on Aug 21, 2014 1:15:44 GMT
If you think about it, with the exception of her early childhood this girl will only have had eight weeks and nine months of pretty much her entire life without the responsibility of children. Her choice/life but I find it sad that she has never had any sustained life of her own. I find it sad you think the only kind of "life" that counts as a "life of her own" includes time without being responsible for children. Perhaps they would have liked to wait a little while but that's not how it worked out. Perhaps they feel children are what make life fulfilling and are perfectly content with the blessing of children regardless of the timing. Jill has a life of her own. It happens to include a wedding and a baby in close succession. It may not be your idyllic life but it's incredibly insulting to imply children are the "end of your life". No one implied that children are the end of anyone's life. Unclench long enough to understand what was said. I think it's sad that these girls were never given the option to choose any kind of life that doesn't involve being someone's wife and/or mother. I love being both, but I also enjoyed my life before marriage. It's 2014. It's crazy that some people still believe a woman's only purpose in life is to serve her husband and shoot children out until the uterus gives out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 1:16:02 GMT
I'm happy for them. This is the type of life they chose to have and they seem to be enjoying it. I couldn't/wouldn't do it, but I'm me, not them.
It takes all kinds to make this world go 'round. How incredibly boring it would be if we all shared the same thoughts, lifestyles, and points of view.
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 21, 2014 1:23:54 GMT
I find it sad you think the only kind of "life" that counts as a "life of her own" includes time without being responsible for children. Perhaps they would have liked to wait a little while but that's not how it worked out. Perhaps they feel children are what make life fulfilling and are perfectly content with the blessing of children regardless of the timing. Jill has a life of her own. It happens to include a wedding and a baby in close succession. It may not be your idyllic life but it's incredibly insulting to imply children are the "end of your life". No one implied that children are the end of anyone's life. Unclench long enough to understand what was said. I think it's sad that these girls were never given the option to choose any kind of life that doesn't involve being someone's wife and/or mother. I love being both, but I also enjoyed my life before marriage. It's 2014. It's crazy that some people still believe a woman's only purpose in life is to serve her husband and shoot children out until the uterus gives out. Of course those girls have an option. They're adult women. They can choose to walk away. Nobody has them chained down in a Duggar compound impregnating them against their will. I'm sorry you can't get past your own opinion to realize that even in 2014, some women are very very happy in their CHOICE of being wife and mother and find perfect fulfillment in that. That may not be enough for me or for you but that's why you and I can choose differently. Jill has made it pretty clear she adores children and has never showed an ounce of hostility or resentment about the help she has been to her parents and siblings. She was always the one volunteering to care for and help teach her siblings so to me, it is no shock she has chosen motherhood early on. If that brings her joy in her life, good for her and her husband. I'm happy for them because they are happy. Sounds like you have some unclenching of your own to do.
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Post by leslie132 on Aug 21, 2014 1:28:59 GMT
Having had the unfortunate luck of fertility issues, my husband and I wish we would have started trying on the wedding night. I'm happy for the couple, as they seem to be pleased either way.
As for them "taking time to get to know each other, and having time for themselves", I think their courtship covered some of that. And what I mean is that they spent time talking in the beginning of their relationship. They didn't let the physical part enter in. When I met my husband he lived 2 hours away. I think that is why we have open communication....because when all you can do is talk....that's what you do! Sometimes when you add the physical in, the physical takes over, and the talks get less important.
I also think that starting early will allow them to have their later years together as a couple. Lots of ways you can look at it.
honestly, the reason I'm commenting is because I read a FB post from a girl today, that pissed me off. This girl has 2 boys, never married, was pregnant again to a married man and had the balls to comment on how screwed up the Duggar family is. I don't know...to me they seem to place God and family first. It seems to be working for them....
ok...now it's off my chest!!
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 21, 2014 1:36:34 GMT
The other girl just got engaged too. Wonder if she is mad that this announcement stole her thunder. Lol. I will admit to having that thought myself...
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Aug 21, 2014 1:53:58 GMT
I think Jill and her husband, seem very happy together, and the connection between the two always comes across as very natural. The other Daughter-Jessa, I'm not sure...something seems off. Her relationship with her young man comes across as "un-natural...almost a bit forced and phony" if that makes sense. I hope marriage is what she wants, and that she's ready. It would be a shame, if she feels she has to marry because it's the "next step" or for ratings. I wonder if she really wants to marry, or not.
As far as, others opinions of they "know no other life". Personally, the Duggar girls(and the whole family for that matter), have traveled quite a bit and experienced so many various types of things, adventures, etc... more than I ever have, anyway.
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 21, 2014 1:57:25 GMT
I think Jessa has always been a little unnatural on screen. Her personality is different than Jill's for sure. As far as ratings... well looks like Jill and Derick have enough going on to keep the ratings up.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Aug 21, 2014 2:04:22 GMT
I am completely indifferent as to how they live their lives. I guess I just don't care. But I find them fascinating for some reason.
That said, I noticed many comments along the lines of "what is with their obsession with babies?" and I'm wondering if it's more of a question of, "what is with their fear of birth control?" Although, if Anna was quoted saying she wanted a specific number of children, well then that means she's open to using birth control at some point. So maybe they really do just like large families?
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Post by johnnysmom on Aug 21, 2014 2:09:10 GMT
It would be really sad if one of the Duggar kids struggled with infertility. Can you imagine the pain of that if all your siblings were able to reproduce and you couldn't? I thought that exact same thing. Infertily is hard enough without being surrounded by a ton of women popping them out one after another. I also hope her pregnancy goes well and she doesn't regret telling tht world so early on.
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 21, 2014 2:15:20 GMT
Having been through miscarriages, it's painful regardless of how many people know. For me, I found more comfort the time people knew because I felt less isolated and alone. I didn't regret telling people.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 2:35:47 GMT
Katiecupcake, you mentioned Jill's choice... I'm not convinced she had a choice. Her parents isolated her from outside influences and restricted her exposure to anything but what they deemed appropriate, even when she was an adult. They positioned her to make no other "choice". Her parents limited her education, knowledge of real world events, and coerced her into a simple mindset of reproducing and staying sweet.
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Post by Peamac on Aug 21, 2014 2:55:07 GMT
Maybe they wanted to start having kids early since Derrick's mother is battling cancer. He's already lost his father, so I could see how they would want his mom to be able to see grandchildren before she passes away, if it should progress. Here's a link with a little info re: his mom. She didn't even make it to the rehearsal or dinner.
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Post by scrapmaven on Aug 21, 2014 2:58:26 GMT
The community or culture in which the Duggars and Jill's hubby were raised puts great emphasis on having a large and immediate family. While my choice would be that they get to know eachother a lot longer and mature quite a bit. I must also realize that our lifestyle choices would not suit eachother. She would abhor my choices and I couldn't advocate her choices. While I might disagree w/some of the Duggars philosophies(i.e. comments against transgender people that I find to be offensive), I also see some good things about their family. I would not want this for my kids, but I live in a different culture than the Duggars. For Jill this might be her bliss. If so, I wish their burgeoning family the best.
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Post by greenlegume on Aug 21, 2014 3:21:21 GMT
Of course she is....I can't imagine she'll do anything but have babies or appear in reality TV shows. She's been born and raised for not much else.
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 21, 2014 3:31:21 GMT
Katiecupcake, you mentioned Jill's choice... I'm not convinced she had a choice. Her parents isolated her from outside influences and restricted her exposure to anything but what they deemed appropriate, even when she was an adult. They positioned her to make no other "choice". Her parents limited her education, knowledge of real world events, and coerced her into a simple mindset of reproducing and staying sweet. I disagree. The Duggar family has traveled the world and are not isolated from the choices that are out there. She is an adult and could have left her parents' home and taken a different path. She chose to accept Derick's courtship and marriage proposal. She chose marriage and together as a couple they have chosen a similar outlook on birth control and family planning as her parents. You might consider their mindset to be "simple" but those kids are smart, the family is financially more than stable, they live in a world where access to news and education is at their fingertips should they choose, and they have an unwavering faith in Christ Jesus. If marriage and child rearing bring Jill Duggar Dillard and her husband the life they seek, it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks. I simply don't get why some people must try to tear apart and badmouth the lifestyle the Duggar family embraces. You don't have to live your life that way. But Jill and Derick have stated they are happy to welcome this baby into their young family and therefore I can be happy for them regardless of if her choices and mindset are different from my own. You know, it's called tolerance. Seems so many demand it but aren't willing to give it in return.
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Post by Scarlet Ohana on Aug 21, 2014 4:08:02 GMT
Katiecupcake, you mentioned Jill's choice... I'm not convinced she had a choice. Her parents isolated her from outside influences and restricted her exposure to anything but what they deemed appropriate, even when she was an adult. They positioned her to make no other "choice". Her parents limited her education, knowledge of real world events, and coerced her into a simple mindset of reproducing and staying sweet. I disagree. The Duggar family has traveled the world and are not isolated from the choices that are out there. She is an adult and could have left her parents' home and taken a different path. She chose to accept Derick's courtship and marriage proposal. She chose marriage and together as a couple they have chosen a similar outlook on birth control and family planning as her parents. You might consider their mindset to be "simple" but those kids are smart, the family is financially more than stable, they live in a world where access to news and education is at their fingertips should they choose, and they have an unwavering faith in Christ Jesus. If marriage and child rearing bring Jill Duggar Dillard and her husband the life they seek, it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks. I simply don't get why some people must try to tear apart and badmouth the lifestyle the Duggar family embraces. You don't have to live your life that way. But Jill and Derick have stated they are happy to welcome this baby into their young family and therefore I can be happy for them regardless of if her choices and mindset are different from my own. You know, it's called tolerance. Seems so many demand it but aren't willing to give it in return.Hmmm...this sounds familiar. You might want to mention that to Michelle Dugger.
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Post by Sassenach on Aug 21, 2014 10:05:56 GMT
It works for them no matter what the world thinks.... congrats.. she is a beautiful woman... she'll make a good mom I am sure.... Does this girl even know "what works for her?" Has she had the opportunity to explore other options? It seems to me that this is what works for her parents.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 21, 2014 11:08:50 GMT
Ya don't say. Jill was groomed for this her whole life. Her parents must be elated. You are not kidding. I can hear the cash registers revving up already. Congratulations to the young couple. Let's hope they have the strength to keep her ghastly mother in her place.
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Post by Aheartfeltcard on Aug 21, 2014 11:38:49 GMT
Good for them. I would want to get to know the man who is going to be my children's father before I actually reproduce, but okay. I only wish the best for them.
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Post by Nanner on Aug 21, 2014 12:15:50 GMT
If it's what they want, I wish them the best. Personally, I don't think think she ever has given it any real thought as to whether it's what she actually wants, because it's been drilled into her that it's what's expected of her. She has never been allowed to make decisions for herself - why should it change now.
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Post by craftsbycarolyn on Aug 21, 2014 13:43:17 GMT
I think the Duggar obsession with reproduction is odd. It bothers me that their girls are raised to be little mothers without any respect for the fact that they might want a life that involves more than being pregnant and having babies. I think Michelle Duggar likes being pregnant more than she likes being a mother. She's always been too pregnant to truly care for their giant brood and happily leaves the real work to her older daughters. I would not be a bit surprised if Michelle was feeling jealous over her daughter's pregnancy and decided to amp up her efforts to force her already overworked uterus to 'catch' another baby. ^^^^that!
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