Olan
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Post by Olan on Apr 10, 2017 18:34:59 GMT
Hard to call him an outlier until he is impeached. Meanwhile he'll keep signing important documents while ordering air strikes from the Winter White House. It's spring in D.C. 
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Post by artgirl1 on Apr 10, 2017 18:37:23 GMT
add to that: www.inusanews.com/article/6150021701/trump-social-security-federal-hiring-freeze-starting-veterans-recipientsand www.dailykos.com/story/2017/4/9/1651743/-Mar-a-Lago-helipad-built-for-Marine-One-now-sports-a-Trump-branded-private-helicopter-insteadUntil the spineless Republicans in Congress/Senate grow some balls and hold Trump accountable, this will be the new reality. And if you have Republican representatives,( or democrats who are enabling Trump) and you are offended by Trumps actions, and you fail to notify these representatives each and every time, by phone or email, then you are just as responsible. I spend less than 1/2 hour a day, on political action. My postcards are pre-addressed, to add the daily (or as necessary comments), my emails are preset and ready to fill in, the appropriate phone numbers are in my phone. And while all my reps are Democrats, and very much against Trump, those in surrounding areas are Republicans, and I let them know that my money and time will go to their defeat during the next election cycle. We can all bemoan Trumps actions, or we can actively work to ensure that he, and his enablers know this is their last term in office.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 10, 2017 18:46:38 GMT
Anyone want to guess how many breakfasts and lunches could be served to hungary kids with that money? Trump would never feed poor Hungarian children. He doesn't even want to feed our own poor.  oops!
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Post by lucyg on Apr 10, 2017 18:51:54 GMT
Exactly what I have feared, and it is horrifying to contemplate what the federal government will look like 3.5 years from now. This may be what it takes to turn some of his supporters, though.
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Post by Really Red on Apr 10, 2017 19:01:40 GMT
Where's the Republican outrage??? Yeah, I think I'd drop dead if there was any!! Lol Yup.
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 10, 2017 19:36:01 GMT
Where's the Republican outrage??? Right here! Right f*ing here! Hello, I'm a republican and yes I'm outraged over all the winter white house crap. They might as well change the name to the "new" white house because there is no way he'll stop going there once it's warm in DC. I don't know who is making excuses for this, but it sure as heck isn't me, my R family, my R friends, nor my R coworkers. I've overheard someone while out to eat say something along the lines of "who cares where he does business, as long as he's doing what needs to be done". Taxpayers money was immediately brought up to that person. So even in a very red state, we are not sitting by and saying "oh well, at least he's working". I don't put a lot of stock in what talking heads are saying, I see what is happening around me and take a little more stock in that. My Republican friends are with you on this River. This is the one area of the Trump administration that they are outraged by and find completely indefensible. I keep hoping they let our Republican Congressman know how they feel. SaveSave
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Post by annabella on Apr 10, 2017 19:57:37 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 10, 2017 20:19:50 GMT
I'm assuming this doesn't include the cost of having Melania and Baron in NY (and their travel to Florida every weekend as well)?
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Post by annabella on Apr 10, 2017 20:22:55 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 10, 2017 23:58:06 GMT
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PLurker
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Post by PLurker on Apr 11, 2017 4:02:25 GMT
Not to worry. He knows just what to do. Write it off! Bankruptcy!
Oh, wait...
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ComplicatedLady
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Apr 11, 2017 4:14:27 GMT
I'm just going to stalk trollie and agree with everything she's saying. Mmm hmmm that's right girl!
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Apr 11, 2017 5:48:23 GMT
but but but he donated his salary..
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 11, 2017 15:29:47 GMT
but but but he donated his salary.. yeah... for the publicity factor. Passing over an oversized check in front of a crowd of people, just like a lottery winner, or something. And who the heck cares about him donating his salary since it's only a drop in the bucket when compared to the cuts he's proposing to make to the Parks Department.
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Post by artgirl1 on Apr 11, 2017 17:44:46 GMT
donating his salary barely dents the additional costs to the taxpayers for his security and for that of his multiple families.
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Post by maryland on Apr 11, 2017 19:58:54 GMT
Where's the Republican outrage??? I am a registered Republican, but I identify more with Republicans from several years ago, not the current party (sorry, that probably makes no sense!). I am very fiscally conservative (and more socially liberal) and I hate that he is wasting so much of taxpayer's money.
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Post by maryland on Apr 11, 2017 20:04:14 GMT
Anyone want to guess how many breakfasts and lunches could be served to hungary kids with that money? And how many diseases could be researched and maybe cured with all the money he is costing taxpayers! Sorry, but I want a President to put as much money to health research as he is putting towards defense.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 11, 2017 20:43:56 GMT
Where's the Republican outrage??? I am a registered Republican, but I identify more with Republicans from several years ago, not the current party (sorry, that probably makes no sense!). I am very fiscally conservative (and more socially liberal) and I hate that he is wasting so much of taxpayer's money. I also am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I'd love it if our representatives would cut back expenses, stick to a fair budget, pay off our debts and stay out of our bedrooms. The problem that I always have with Republicans is that they claim to be fiscally conservative but they expand the war machine, give HUGE tax benefits to big corporations who mostly keep their money and employees off shore and they run up the national debit all the while lining their own pockets and cutting benefits for those who really need help. The Democrats have to come in and clean up the Republican mess every time. Where on earth did they get the reputation as being fiscally conservative?
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Post by maryland on Apr 11, 2017 21:22:52 GMT
I am a registered Republican, but I identify more with Republicans from several years ago, not the current party (sorry, that probably makes no sense!). I am very fiscally conservative (and more socially liberal) and I hate that he is wasting so much of taxpayer's money. I also am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I'd love it if our representatives would cut back expenses, stick to a fair budget, pay off our debts and stay out of our bedrooms. The problem that I always have with Republicans is that they claim to be fiscally conservative but they expand the war machine, give HUGE tax benefits to big corporations who mostly keep their money and employees off shore and they run up the national debit all the while lining their own pockets and cutting benefits for those who really need help. The Democrats have to come in and clean up the Republican mess every time. Where on earth did they get the reputation as being fiscally conservative? I was thinking the same thing! I now think of the Republicans as more of the big spenders not the Democrats. I think I have the same political philosophy as you!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 22:00:57 GMT
I also am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I'd love it if our representatives would cut back expenses, stick to a fair budget, pay off our debts and stay out of our bedrooms. The problem that I always have with Republicans is that they claim to be fiscally conservative but they expand the war machine, give HUGE tax benefits to big corporations who mostly keep their money and employees off shore and they run up the national debit all the while lining their own pockets and cutting benefits for those who really need help. The Democrats have to come in and clean up the Republican mess every time. Where on earth did they get the reputation as being fiscally conservative? I was thinking the same thing! I now think of the Republicans as more of the big spenders not the Democrats. I think I have the same political philosophy as you! The republicans have long been "big spenders" - just on different things - mostly defense. It all depends on where the money goes - to help the old, the sick, the poor? Or the arms manufacturers.
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Post by lizacreates on Apr 11, 2017 22:34:17 GMT
I also am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I'd love it if our representatives would cut back expenses, stick to a fair budget, pay off our debts and stay out of our bedrooms. The problem that I always have with Republicans is that they claim to be fiscally conservative but they expand the war machine, give HUGE tax benefits to big corporations who mostly keep their money and employees off shore and they run up the national debit all the while lining their own pockets and cutting benefits for those who really need help. The Democrats have to come in and clean up the Republican mess every time. Where on earth did they get the reputation as being fiscally conservative? I was thinking the same thing! I now think of the Republicans as more of the big spenders not the Democrats. I think I have the same political philosophy as you! Well, personally, I don’t know why people still think it’s a Repub tenet. I know they like to say it because it’s a vote-getter, but even Repubs I talk to don’t believe that. Even if people still believed it when Reagn left the WH, they sure didn’t believe it anymore by the time Bush was done.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 11, 2017 22:46:30 GMT
I couldn't care less if a president golfs every weekend, weather permitting (ah, there's the rub)...or bowls or sticks pins in dead butterflies or scrapbooks. (Heh.) I have no expectation for 24/7 devotion; I like a president who exercises, socializes, walks the dog, vacations in Hawaii with his kids, whatever.
But to schlep your security, your advisers, and your NYC-living family to your private for-profit club every weekend, and then have the temerity to actually name it "The Winter White House"...and then CHANGE the name to "The Southern White House" when - oops! - winter is over?
Then yeah, I'm going to profoundly disapprove of your weekly golf game. Stay home, Mr, President. Take as much leisure time as you need to be healthy and whole, but let's see some of that personal responsibility and belt-tightening. Or maybe just a little prudence and self-awareness.
(Also, I forget who said upthread that their friends were arguing that President Obama's greens fees were paid with public money, but that would surprise me.)
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 11, 2017 22:50:17 GMT
I couldn't care less if a president golfs every weekend, weather permitting (ah, there's the rub)...or bowls or sticks pins in dead butterflies or scrapbooks. (Heh.) I have no expectation for 24/7 devotion; I like a president who exercises, socializes, walks the dog, vacations in Hawaii with his kids, whatever. I wouldn't either, ordinarily- but the level of hypocrisy is astoundingly off the charts what with the many times Trump said he'd never leave Washington, always be in the White House, etc. etc. etc. If he at least ONCE said 'you know, I was wrong, it IS a tougher job than I thought' I might feel at least a small iota of agreement. But that will never happen, so I feel okay with my outrage at the exorbitant expenses he's racking up.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 11, 2017 22:56:40 GMT
I couldn't care less if a president golfs every weekend, weather permitting (ah, there's the rub)...or bowls or sticks pins in dead butterflies or scrapbooks. (Heh.) I have no expectation for 24/7 devotion; I like a president who exercises, socializes, walks the dog, vacations in Hawaii with his kids, whatever. I wouldn't either, ordinarily- but the level of hypocrisy is astoundingly off the charts what with the many times Trump said he'd never leave Washington, always be in the White House, etc. etc. etc. If he at least ONCE said 'you know, I was wrong, it IS a tougher job than I thought' I might feel at least a small iota of agreement. But that will never happen, so I feel okay with my outrage at the exorbitant expenses he's racking up. Oh, I agree. It's ridiculously careless and hypocritical. Disrespectful, even. Yes, I think presidents should recreate (and I did not at all understand the Obama-golfs-so-he's-a-slacker anger), but do it "at home" or on much-less-frequent vacations.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 18:59:09 GMT
Where's the Republican outrage??? I think it's extremely wasteful AND hypocritical.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 19:07:30 GMT
I don't ever want to hear another fucking word about Obama golfing or going on vacation. The Republican critics have lost the right to ever bitch about this again. And he knows it's wrong because he keeps trying to be sneaky about it. I mean, c'mon. He didn't quite understand that becoming president means you have no private life for 4 (please god let it only be 4) years. For the first time in a really long time, Trump has a boss and I don't think he likes it. And the Democrats lost the right to ever bitch about any President golfing, after Obama spoke of an American citizen being beheaded and then 17 minutes later was photographed laughing and joking on the golf course, but here we are.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 19:09:16 GMT
Honestly, it should just be plain old voter outrage. Not Republican outrage. Trump is an obvious outlier when compared to ALL other presidents, not just Obama. But, for a party that espouses fiscally conservative values, this should be a particular offense that is difficult to turn a blind eye to. The White House is a short helicopter flight away from Camp David which is equipped for the President, staff and visitors. It does not hinder a business community by blocking traffic or a wide swatch of flight patterns. Go there if you think you need to get out of Dodge every weekend. The cost is minimal compared to the weekly trips to FL and the government will also not have to pay to house staff & secret service. 
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 19:19:32 GMT
Before his inauguration, Mr Trump regularly criticised Mr Obama for playing golf while holding office. “Can you believe that, with all of the problems and difficulties facing the US, President Obama spent the day playing golf. Worse than Carter,” he tweeted in October 2014. During a campaign rally last year, Mr Trump referred to his golf courses when he criticised Mr Obama. He said: " You know what – and I love golf – but if I were in the White House, I don’t think I’d ever see Turnberry again, I don’t think I’d ever see Doral again, I own Doral in Miami, I don’t think I’d ever see many of the places that I have. "I don’t ever think that I’d see anything, I just wanna stay in the White House and work my ass off, make great deals, right? Who's gonna leave? I mean, who's gonna leave?"" had dinner with some friends last weekend who are Trump supporters; this issue came up, and the response was 'well, he's working all the time, no matter where he is...' --but why can't he work in Washington? Why does he NEED to travel every weekend? 'Well, he wasn't President when he made those comments... now he is, and it's tougher than he thought.' Even when I tried to point out the expense of all that travel, and the fact that he's enriching himself in the end by going to Mar-a-Lago, the response to THAT was 'how does that enrich him? he's paying for it all himself, isn't he?' ---uhhh... what about all the travel expenses WE'RE paying for-- unless he's paying for the expenses of Air Force 1? I don't think so-- and all the ancillary people who need to travel there when HE goes, spending money at Mar-a-Lago, and all the publicity it's giving the place?) Basically, this exchange showed me that even when it's all laid out in black and white, some Trump supporters just don't seem to care. That's what everyone's heard from the Left for the last 8 years when the subject came up about the expense of all of Obama's for fun trips and the expense of campaigning trips were brought up. I do think that needs to stop. Since he won't, someone needs to put a stop to it. That can't be legal. At the very least it's unethical.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 19:33:41 GMT
I couldn't care less if a president golfs every weekend, weather permitting (ah, there's the rub)...or bowls or sticks pins in dead butterflies or scrapbooks. (Heh.) I have no expectation for 24/7 devotion; I like a president who exercises, socializes, walks the dog, vacations in Hawaii with his kids, whatever. I wouldn't either, ordinarily- but the level of hypocrisy is astoundingly off the charts what with the many times Trump said he'd never leave Washington, always be in the White House, etc. etc. etc. If he at least ONCE said 'you know, I was wrong, it IS a tougher job than I thought' I might feel at least a small iota of agreement. But that will never happen, so I feel okay with my outrage at the exorbitant expenses he's racking up. I agree, it is. I also thought that when Obama criticized Bush as unpatriotic for adding to the debt and then turned around and surpassed him.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Apr 12, 2017 19:37:08 GMT
had dinner with some friends last weekend who are Trump supporters; this issue came up, and the response was 'well, he's working all the time, no matter where he is...' --but why can't he work in Washington? Why does he NEED to travel every weekend? 'Well, he wasn't President when he made those comments... now he is, and it's tougher than he thought.' Even when I tried to point out the expense of all that travel, and the fact that he's enriching himself in the end by going to Mar-a-Lago, the response to THAT was 'how does that enrich him? he's paying for it all himself, isn't he?' ---uhhh... what about all the travel expenses WE'RE paying for-- unless he's paying for the expenses of Air Force 1? I don't think so-- and all the ancillary people who need to travel there when HE goes, spending money at Mar-a-Lago, and all the publicity it's giving the place?) Basically, this exchange showed me that even when it's all laid out in black and white, some Trump supporters just don't seem to care. That's what everyone's heard for the last 8 years about Obama, when the subject came up about the expense of all the for fun trips and campaigning trips were brought up. I do think that needs to stop. Since he won't, someone needs to put a stop to it. That can't be legal. At the very least it's unethical. Can you honestly not see the difference between a much-needed vacation for President Obama (fewer days taken BTW than W, I believe) and the constant, every weekend trip to Florida for golf on the public dime? Especially after Trump bitched and moaned about Obama's vacations for the last 8 years!
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