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Post by smokey2471 on Aug 20, 2014 22:21:34 GMT
I know it was discussed at it's inception but it's just now becoming something I need to think about as I don't really remember the discussions. I'm going to schedule an appointment for Lillie (12 years old) with my ob/gyn to go over the facts and such. My friend who goes there says she is pro getting the vaccine so I'm not sure what if anything she will tell me in the con category. As Lillie will be a new patient it may take me a few weeks to get her in. Her regular Doctor is not my fav and we are looking for a new Dr for them so I don't really care to ask him.
I just wanted to hear from others their thoughts and decisions and why they made the choice? Did you discuss with your daughter and have her give imput on waiting?
I was sort of against it at first as it was new but over all I am pro immunization just not blindly.
I would like to discuss if anyone (esp Melissa or other medical peas) want to talk about it.
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Post by Merge on Aug 20, 2014 22:38:43 GMT
Our pediatrician recommends it and has given it to her kids. She did suggest we wait and not do it with the 11 year old boosters because it was a lot on the system at once. Older DD just had her first dose at 13.
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Post by marimoose on Aug 20, 2014 22:51:22 GMT
Such a personal choice and so many opinions out there. My pediatrician did not recommend and I have talked to a couple others that have said the same thing. I have heard that it is basically a money maker for the pharmaceutical company when a different patent wore off one of their other products. Who knows? Kinda of a flip of the coin. I also have read about some nasty side effects though they are in the minority as far as the total people receiving them goes.I have heard more negatives than positives. I chose to not do it for many reasons. My daughter is 18. If she aske sot receive the shots I would have no objection but I wasn't making that choice for her based on what I have heard. Her 21yo boyfriend went through the series of the shots at 18 when they began suggesting them for males. His mom did not offer him a choice.
I hope you can find the answers to need to make an informed decision.
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Post by smokey2471 on Aug 20, 2014 22:54:45 GMT
Merge. What was the deciding factor for you if you don't mind me asking.
Background Lillie is 12 and my only girl..thank god... And she has not started her period. I don't know if that matters and she is not sexually active. We have very open conversations about boys, sex, etc. I've let her know that when she is ready and I expect that to be a long time from now that we will choose a method of birth control and re discuss the importance of condoms and diseases. My mother never really talked about any of that with me and while I was not sexually active until I was 17 and it was a long term boyfriend I did not use condoms every time and would never have asked my mother for BC. She expected abstinence. I guess you can say we used condoms the first month or so then sporadically after that. We did the pull and pray method lol
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 20, 2014 22:58:09 GMT
Our pediatrician did not recommend them and hasn't given them to his daughters, so I chose a wait and see approach. My oldest dd is of an age where she can make her own decision and her Gyne doesn't recommend it either. This Dr says safe sex with a condom will prevent STD and pregnancy although she advocates the pill as well while kids are still in college.
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Post by tommygirl on Aug 20, 2014 23:00:02 GMT
I work in a pediatric medical office. We have 5 pediatricians. All 5 have given their children (girls and boys) the HPV immunization. In our office the docs usually recommend after age 12.
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Post by raindancer on Aug 20, 2014 23:01:40 GMT
Here is the recommendation from the CDC. This along with my background is why my kids will be getting this vaccine. Facts about HPV and the vaccine from the CDC Near 100%. That's really, really high. I don't know why anyone would object to protecting their children from these diseases. And you can't control anyone but yourself, so regardless of how careful you are, you can still be exposed. My best friends mom in high school had an STI thanks to her husband having an affair after 28 years of marriage. It happens.
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Post by raindancer on Aug 20, 2014 23:02:42 GMT
Our pediatrician did not recommend them and hasn't given them to his daughters, so I chose a wait and see approach. My oldest dd is of an age where she can make her own decision and her Gyne doesn't recommend it either. This Dr says safe sex with a condom will prevent STD and pregnancy although she advocates the pill as well while kids are still in college. These are all great and should be used as well, but how many married people do you know who use condoms? It's still risky. And if you can prevent it, I don't know why you wouldn't.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 20, 2014 23:29:11 GMT
Mom to 2 boys here. Our family physician did not recommend it at this time. My choice has nothing to do with whether it makes kids promiscuous. It doesn't But I do have reasons why I am holding off for now. We discuss it every year. It really is such a personal choice. You just have to make a choice to do what is right for your child. Don't be coerced into a choice, either for or against the vaccine. You need to research and think it over. And no matter what, don't let someone second guess you. Your kid. Your choice.
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Post by gale w on Aug 20, 2014 23:55:50 GMT
Here is the recommendation from the CDC. This along with my background is why my kids will be getting this vaccine. Facts about HPV and the vaccine from the CDC Near 100%. That's really, really high. I don't know why anyone would object to protecting their children from these diseases. And you can't control anyone but yourself, so regardless of how careful you are, you can still be exposed. My best friends mom in high school had an STI thanks to her husband having an affair after 28 years of marriage. It happens. I don't think most people opting out are doing it to not protect their children from the diseases. From what I've read it's more of a concern over possible serious side effects and the relative newness of the vaccine.
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Post by alicenwonder on Aug 21, 2014 0:07:03 GMT
I had my teenage boy get it and my daughter who is 10, will be getting it also. Every Doctor at the clinic we go to recommends it.
Side effects from vaccines are usually so low and cancer is just so nasty and aggressive.
I don't know any kid who thought having sex would give them cancer and that stopped them from having sex. So the promiscuous claims by some are kind of ridiculous to me.
I think you go with your gut and just use your best judgment. Research it with an open mind knowing that there are always fanatics on both ends of the spectrum that will rant and rave about getting it and not getting it. There is so much misinformation out there.
Not getting this vaccine is not going to hurt anybody else (other than future sex partners if you have HPV) like not getting whooping cough vaccine would. So just go with your gut.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Aug 21, 2014 0:09:34 GMT
You may want to google Dr. Christiane Northrup. She has written about this and her opinion does not agree with main stream medical community on this. It's another perspective.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 21, 2014 0:11:20 GMT
I had my children both vaccinated, boys get it too! Our pediatrician does it right in their office no ob GYN visit needed. Though I did discuss it with my ob gyn on my visit between the time it came out, and they were vaccinated. I spoke to my dr because she brought it up knowing I had children. ( I didn't initiate that to bother her ) We did wait until they were about 14. Neither of my children had any negative reaction.
Fingers crossed that it works ( as with any vaccination you may never know )
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 21, 2014 0:13:53 GMT
I would like Melissa's take as well.
My 17 year old DS and my 15 year old DD have not have the vaccine. It wasn't a disease that they could catch by sitting next to another kid in class. I'm confident that neither are sexually active and that has been part of the decision. I've also read that the vaccine is only effective against one (?) HPV strain, which account for about 12% of cervical cancers, but that it is very effective against those 12%.
Both kids are old enough now to have a say in their vaccines. DS had his last set of vaccines at 12, when they were not then recommended for boys. At least not that I had heard of. And DD had several vaccines when she was 12 and I choose to only give her the standard ones because I worry about overwhelming the system with too many vaccines all at once. I will probably have DS get the vaccine before he goes off to college next year and DD when she goes to college as well.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 21, 2014 0:24:49 GMT
Just keep in mind that it is a series of 3 shots. Research is showing that it is effective with only 1 shot, so I don't know why they are doing 3.
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Post by scrappinmom3 on Aug 21, 2014 0:52:56 GMT
Our pediatrician is very pro HPV vaccine and all five female Drs. And two males have had their children who are of age vaccinated. They talked about it every year at dd19's check up from the time she turned twelve. Every year, I declined, until she was 17. Up until that point, dd did not have a boyfriend, but I knew it was not far off ( I was right, and she has been dating the same young man for almost two years.) I asked a million questions, did some research, and gave my dd the choice. She chose to get the vaccine. Of course, I worried that we made the right decision, but I do think that it was the right decision for us. Good luck!
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Post by loco coco on Aug 21, 2014 0:56:40 GMT
I do not have kids but I bet this is a very hard decision. With all of the reports about the adverse reactions I would be very scared to give my child this vaccine. Good luck making your decision
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Post by baslp on Aug 21, 2014 1:14:05 GMT
I had all of my girls and son get it. I have a friend who is an OR nurse and she has seen more guys on the table with throat cancer due to that virus. One can use their imagination on how the guy got the virus.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 21, 2014 1:19:34 GMT
The vaccine needs to be given prior to sexual activity. Not when the person becomes sexually active. So the fact that a child may not have a boyfriend/girlfriend now really isn't a reason to wait, it is a reason to do it early. The vaccine may be more effective if done early, although women can get it through age 26 and men through age 21. I don't think many people understand just how common HPV is and that there is no cure and often no symptoms.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 1:24:28 GMT
My girls didn't get it as they were exactly the earliest age suggested when it came out. Our famous governor decided to make it MANDATORY (and it is one of the few times I have TOTALLY disagreed with him).....there was a huge outcry because there was not a lot of research, insurance wasn't covering it and it was $200 a shot (so $600 total). There was also a connection between him and the RX company.....We declined at the time and would have been willing to pull our girls out of public school because of it.
Since then, My one daughter had a weird reaction to a Dtap a few years later and is really really afraid of effects of vaccinations, so I doubt she will ever get it. For the other, it will be her choice now that she is old enough to make it.
Plus our doctor at the time did NOT recommend it and hadn't given it to any of his three kids. And this is a doctor that would usually recommend all vacs.
I think you will find the medical community split and that alone is enough to give me pause
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Post by ~summer~ on Aug 21, 2014 1:27:11 GMT
Yes, it decreases the incidence of cervical cancer -- my boys have and will get the vaccine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 1:36:03 GMT
Our pediatrician recommends it but i have declined it for my kids so far. I've disagreed with my doctors before and always been right. Part research, part mom intuition ... The numbers are not convincing and it hasnt been studied well enough/long enough. I do not want my kids to be the guinea pigs. It does weigh heavy on my heart. Could i be harming my children by giving it to them? By not giving it to them? It's definitely a hard decision OP, just do your research and make your OWN best decision.
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 21, 2014 1:57:20 GMT
My daughter has had the vaccine. Both our family doctor and OBGYN encouraged us to get it.
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Post by lovinlife on Aug 21, 2014 2:24:17 GMT
I have 3 girls and the oldest is 12. I have had people ask me if they're getting the shots and I'm on the fence. Definitely watching this thread.
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Post by purplebee on Aug 21, 2014 2:25:43 GMT
My son had the vaccine with no reactions or side effects.
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Post by LeaP on Aug 21, 2014 2:26:49 GMT
My daughter had it and my friend's son had it. No reactions in either one.
ETA: Woohoo, with this post I am a junior member.
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Post by SallyPA on Aug 21, 2014 3:10:33 GMT
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 21, 2014 3:24:08 GMT
I can't think of a better way to sum it up other than what raindancer said: "And if you can prevent it, I don't know why you wouldn't." Over here there is a free HPV school vaccination program. Girls get it at 12-13 and boys at 14-15. You can opt out if you wish. I chose to protect my daughter. As to why it is best to get it done early rather than waiting until they are sexually active, this is what is on the info brochure: HPV school vaccination program
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Post by fastmommie on Aug 21, 2014 3:25:05 GMT
This is a very timely subject for me. My twin girls are 14, youngest girl is 13. My family Dr recommends this, and so does my OB. However, my insurance doesn't cover it, so it would be over $1200 out of pocket for these 3. I also have a son who is 16, more money. My OB does stress the fact that it is reducing cancers. He also said that so many young women are coming in with not clear paps that in turn warrant biopsies and more testing. He says that this vaccine reduces that also.
It is not an easy decision.
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Post by melissa on Aug 21, 2014 3:27:27 GMT
Why wouldn't you give your child the vaccine?
My child chose to be vaccinated before I would have had her get the vaccine. All it took was learning about it and she said she wanted it. It was a no brainer for her at age 11. All she needed to learn was that it offered protection against a type of cancer. I do think she could have waited and now that she is 17, I can definitely say she could have waited a few years, but it doesn't matter. You can't go back into time. As already mentioned, you want this on board BEFORE the onset of any sexual activity. So waiting until the later teens years will be too late for some.
The anti-vaccination movement in the US has grown stronger over the years and it can be confusing to do your own research as a result. I find very few actual reasons not to vaccinate for this one.
And, btw, I personally am someone who has had moderate to severe immunization reactions over the years to many vaccines. I'd say it hasn't stopped me but that is not entirely true. I have a fairly specific egg allergy so any vaccine derived from products incubated in eggs is an issue which means I did not get a flu vaccine for several years. As an asthmatic and cancer patient, it's no longer optional (ESP with so many people NOT getting vaccinated!), so I worked with an allergist to get it the last few years until the egg free version became available. I've also reacted to the DTP boosters, an unrelated reaction to my allergy and definitely related to the immunization. My child, on the other hand, has never had a reaction of any sort.
If a person has a reaction to a vaccine, it is important to understand the nature of the reaction, the nature of the vaccine and then make an educated decision if it has anything to do with any other vaccine. Often, that is not the case. And, one must of course balance the risks of a reaction vs the benefit of the vaccine. A fever can be treated with acetominophen. A local reaction is not a contraindication to repeat doses.
I admit I find these discussions tiring to a degree because of some of the usual comments. Moneymaker? This vaccine is a GAME CHANGER. It's incredible how quickly we forget history. Do you know that cervical cancer was a MAJOR cause of death from cancer for women before the Pap test was introduced in the 1950's? Deaths from cervical cancer have decreased tremendously since then... unlike any other cancer really. This is the final step to almost completely eliminate this form of cancer. It is STILL the second most common cause of cancer related death world wide. Of course, it's not just cervical cancer. Anal cancers, some rectal cancers, vaginal, vulvar and penile cancers as are mainly caused by certain strains of HPV.
If you've never been touched by an abnormal pap smear, never been touched by cancer in your life, I can understand the reticence. But who hasn't been touched by cancer and why in the world would you not protect your child while you have the chance?
So, yes.. I am biased in favor of this vaccine. I don't do gyn office practice any more, but please understand that this vaccine, if widely employed, will change the nature of gyn practices. I highly suspect that someday there will be a different schedule for those who have been vaccinated vs those who have not as far as cervical screening goes.
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