Consolidating the Stamp Positioner Threads Right Here

I've been wondering about ordering the UK version. I'm so over MSP 

Over the weekend I bit the bullet and ordered one from the UK via eBay.  It's scheduled to be here next week.  I also have one on pre-order from oozak.com.  When I have my 2 new TH platforms, I may take a hammer to my 2 cracked Mistis.

Naturally...if they break, people will have to spend millions more on replacements.   Poor quality is the way of the world these days...no sense in selling someone something that they don't have to keep replacing because it will put you out of business OR force you to be innovative (beyond making difference sizes of the same thing) and who wants to be bothered with that?  Plus...it's pink, so ew.  I can't wait to get Tim's...I am happy to be using my stamps, but every time I have to grab my Misti, I feel a pit in my stomach.

Yep it is wonderfully sturdy. Very impressed with it so far. 

What a great welcome home!! Have fun playing with your goodies

It appears priority isn't the only option with ACOT any longer, so there is a $9 and some change shipping option, making it a few dollars less than it had been.  I'm tempted to risk the $22 (using the PREORDER promo and cherry points) to order it.  I'll just be mad if it cancels because I have to order a second item in order to hit $40 and use $20 in cherry points...if they do cancel it and ship me one piece of paper, I'll be sooooo mad!  I collect them while watching youtube and have been well behaved in my spending.  I have almost 42,000 points to spend.  Thankfully, with the fall goodies starting to hit pre-order, they won't all be burning a hole in my pocket for too much longer.

Just a little conspiracy theory nonsense, USA peas who are ordering from the UK etc: brace yourselves for a whole string of "ifs..." Which may not be relevant anyway because word on the other thread was that the lawsuit has been settled...

IF there is no settlement and IF my sweet whotsit has a patent in the USA and IF the Tonic/TH tool infringes that patent (the original one which was held back from distribution then shipped to other countries) .... IF my sweet whotsit is as nasty as she is rumored to be and as determined, too, IF she has money to spend on more lawsuits and IF she can get information from distributors or retailers she may accuse you, the stamping clients and purchasers of infringing her patent by importing and using the offending press in the USA. Whew.

This is far fetched and unlikely, but from my reading on the topic there are some cases where this tactic has been used, and the remedy granted. My sweet will not be seeking a little bit of damages from each of you but rather using each of your purchasing decisions to continue to go after Tonic/TH.

Agreed and spot on, you are quite correct about the costs of lots of little suits! 

The idea some of my reading brought up in my brain (I had a similar situation in a different case, different country but somewhat similar regs) was that should MSP, by hook, crook or by spending some money on lawyers, be able to get a list of presses distributed/ exported back to the US or should she use, for eg, some of the posts on here and on other boards, Fakebook, You tube videos and so on as examples of the "conduct" which some US case law says infringes her patent, then she can use this evidence not against individuals but to claim (causation?) a lump sum from Tonic/TH as the manu- alleging bad faith; they sent them overseas, where there is no patent, they should not have sold them to you in NZ etc etc... and risking them making their way back into the States. 

As for the PR disaster, I think that ship has sailed long ago! 

In those instances, I'm fairly certain she'd be looking for default judgments because most people wouldn't be able to travel or obtain an attorney...that's why her scare tactics work.  She has deeper pockets and can draw it out, not based on law, but based on cost for the person she is threatening.  This is likely why Don never received anything more than a legal letter.  It's been working.

She's a terrible excuse for a small business person.  All we hear about is how bad small business has it...here we are, the every day scrapbook supply consumer, wanting to support small businesses in the industry to prevent further shrink and she just makes us disgusted.  I get protecting your idea and your business, but this wasn't her idea, it was something she made using other people ingenuity in modifying other products.  She's gone from a parent protecting her child to the one who stealthily follows her child on dates, does background checks without telling anyone, stalks their dates on facebook, etc.  Essentially, she's gone from reasonable behavior to batshit crazy.

Even if she were to win against Tonic, I won't ever buy another MISTI.  I'd rather spend 3x as much on supplies (you know, for mistakes and such, hahaha) and countless hours of my own time figuring out a way to make my own than give that greedy witch another cent of my money.

These opinions are solely my own, however.  Bahahaha.

So...do we know where we're at on the Tonic actually shipping, or did I miss it in the previous posts? My estimated ship date on the US Tonic is the same when I look at my pre-order, and I haven't gotten any updates/email notifications otherwise. Reading this makes me wonder if the dates going to move again, though.

I just saw this on Tonic's FB page:

Stamp Platform Update:


June 7, 2017

Tonic would like to give you an update on the situation regarding the new Model 1707e Tim Holtz Stamping Platform. Since the last announcement, we the team at Tonic have been working very hard to minimize the delay and impact this has had on the supply of the product whilst ensuring we can release a product that we can continue to supply in the USA. We would like to take this opportunity to apologize again for the delay and ask for your continued support and patience while we try to get the products into stock and shipped out to you all.

We have been working to modify the product for the release to ensure we do not infringe any existing patents. We hope you will agree when you see the revised Model 1707e that the changes we have made to the design do not detract from the look or function of the product and most people will not notice any difference from the original. Even though we maintain our previous product (which we did not distribute) did not infringe the granted patent of My Sweet Petunia (MSP), these differences have been made to provide further clarity in the situation so we can provide our retail partners clear guidance on the sale of the product.

As we move to catch up with the demand for the product we will be releasing the incoming shipments on a first come first served basis based with our retail partners on when we received the orders. We will be confirming the expected delivery date to each of our retailers within the next 7 days. The first shipments we expect to be dispatched on the week of 09 July with the second delivery to be on the week of 16 July. We are working to improve this wherever possible; however, we want to provide a clear and realistic route to completion. We also want to be realistic that the product will be entering the country during the holiday period which may involve additional small delays. These dates are when we will receive product into our warehouse in California so there may be a few more days to get the product to the partners and then onto the consumers.

We would like to thank all our retailers and their consumers for their ongoing support for Tonic Studios USA Inc. and the support from the team at Tim Holtz LLC. We will make a further announcement if the situation changes; however at this time we will be dealing directly with the retailers so they can pass on the relevant delivery information to their consumers.

If you are an end consumer and have specific questions on delivery, please contact your retailer while we send out updates. Please allow a few days before doing so while we filter the information to them.

If you have any questions for Tonic Studios directly please contact directly on customerservice@tonic-studios.com

Good to hear JustTricia. Here's hoping they can release the revised platform even earlier than anticipated.

Oh well. I guess I'll get my platform from the UK a few weeks before the revised version ships to US retailers, and since I didn't pre-order I probably wouldn't have been able to get one from the first shipment anyway.

Meanwhile it's all I can do not to leave nasty comments on every video where a crafter uses the msp tool.

With this update, do you think that they are trying to less go toe to toe (and instead just ask for the case to be dismissed) or that they will release and still fight her in court?

I'm really wanting to pre-order at ACOT but don't want to spend money and have it tied up on something so uncertain when I could pre-order some Autumnal goodies that are calling me that I KNOW I will eventually receive!