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Post by linda~lou on Aug 22, 2014 18:17:46 GMT
GOOD UPDATE! I check the adoption site everyday and today Wyatt's pic was not listed. I sent an email to shelter to confirm he was finally adopted and they told me Wyatt was never returned! Say what? I told her about FB post I read about Wyatt being returned, she had no idea why they said that. Wyatt was adopted by an older couple that had no other dogs and he was never brought back!! Apparently how the mix up occurred was because I was on the FB page that HOLDS strays for 10 days to see if owners claim them, not the FB page of shelter they are transferred to after the hold is up where the animals are kept waiting for adoption. The rescue that actually shelters the pups confirmed that Wyatt was never returned!!!! YAY!!!! So we can all be happy to know Wyatt is still in his forever home. I knew they were a lovely couple!!! And I'm sorry I wanted to punch them! I'm so happy for Wyatt!!!  Remember this sweet baby?He was being picked up at the shelter same time I was picking up Jaxson. It was a older couple with their adult son. I thanked them for adopting Wyatt and they said don't worry, we will give him a good home. FOUR DAYS LATER, I see Wyatt's pic posted back on the shelter's adoption page. I inquired and they said Wyatt was brought back cause he was a puppy and all he wanted to do was play and their older dogs didn't like him!!  Four days?? That's all you gave him? I'm so sad for this boy. Jaxson settled in pretty quick, but Abby's nose is still out of joint somewhat although she is coming around. How long did it take your rescue or new pup to settle in? It's like bringing a new baby home. The siblings don't like it? What are you going to do!? Take the baby back to the hospital??? I can see if you found the pup aggressive or had biting issues, but even then, four days just doesn't seem fair to the pup either. He's been through some trauma too and he needs time to adjust. But because he wanted to play all the time? I'm just so sad for Wyatt. I hope he finds a loving home soon.  |
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Post by pierogi on Aug 22, 2014 18:22:43 GMT
Poor Wyatt.  It takes at least a few weeks for a new animal to "settle in." A new home is a huge adjustment. People who don't want to give their pets the old college try shouldn't be adopting animals. |
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Post by marianne on Aug 22, 2014 18:27:55 GMT
Four days isn't long at all, especially considering there were other dogs in the picture. I'm wondering what the adopting people were expecting when they adopted a pup? Play, that's what pups do. I hope Wyatt gets adopted by someone who's thought the process through.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Aug 22, 2014 18:37:42 GMT
That is sad. I don't know how long a shelter dog needs to settle into a house but when we brought my moms yorkie(
6 months old) to our house for the first time to live with us my Pearl hated him and wanted nothing to to with him and wanted us to have nothing to do with him. This went on for 2 months. then one day we saw them laying on daughters day bed at the same time. they were as far away from each other as they could be but still it was a step closer to living in harmony. one night we were sitting in the living room and Pearl decided she would chase Skip. At first we thought it was not good but we sat and watched for a few minutes and they were playing. She would chase him for a while and then he would turn and chase her for a while. After that they would play together every night after dinner. they would lay closer together and one night a couple weeks later they were up on my husbands lap together in the recliner. Skip at the feet and pearl on dad's right leg (like always). That is when we knew they became buddies and Skip was in the pack. Now 4 1/2 years later they are best buds. They don't do much without the other.
now mind you my little bossy Gadget still hates it when the 2 of them chase each other around the house..... and He will tell them about it.
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Post by loco coco on Aug 22, 2014 18:39:00 GMT
ugh I hate hearing that
i was working a rescue event and the dog I represented was a large mix who liked to jump on people. He was the sweetest baby but he needed training. A couple with a toddler was interested and I told them it probably would not be a good fit because a baby and a big jumpy dog do not mix! They didnt listen to me and adopted him. A few days later I got a call from the shelter that he was returned and now on the euthanize list because he was an "owner return with aggression". Excuse me?! He had scratched the child, there was no aggression! I had to take off work, rush to the city shelter to save him, and home him on my own. Needless to say it was stressful and pushed me away from rescue for awhile.
This is why there are so many shelter pets and animals that die every day. People will buy these animals on a whim and realize hey, maybe Im not cut out to be a dog owner or maybe I dont have the time. They return them just like they are a piece of clothing. What they dont realize is at most city shelters an owner return is a death sentence for these innocent animals.
Sorry, I went on a little rant there!! this just pisses me off
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 18:39:09 GMT
It sounds like the problem wasn't him being a shelter pup but just being a PUPPY. Puppies are notorious for...umm things like playing! In Wyatt's case he likely would have been a year or more to out grow the puppy phase they were objecting to.
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Post by khaleesi on Aug 22, 2014 18:39:51 GMT
I believe each animal is different and 4 days is not long enough, regardless if they came from a shelter, a friend, or a breeder. Several weeks at minimum if I had to assign a time. I personally am of the opinion that when I choose to bring an animal into the household they are there for the duration of their life barring anything catastrophic. Even new puppies take time to get settled in.
It sounds like this couple had different expectations for what would happen - with both this dog and the ones already in their home.
eta: We brought a new puppy into our house last year around this time and it's only been in the last few months that we have peaceful coexistence with our puppy and other dog.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 22, 2014 18:42:14 GMT
Maybe there needed to be a better screening process with this family. Poor Wyatt....does Jaxson need a playmate???
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 22, 2014 18:54:06 GMT
Maybe there needed to be a better screening process with this family. Poor Wyatt....does Jaxson need a playmate??? Jaxson has two playmates already. My Abby and Holly. If not, I would take him in a heartbeat. I saw him at the shelter and he was the friendliest little guy. Giving everyone kisses. The shelter screens pretty well I think. I saw the people and thought they were lovely. Now I want to hunt them down and punch them.  |
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Post by deshacrafts on Aug 22, 2014 18:56:36 GMT
Awe that's so sad. Imagine how sad the puppy is think he was going to his forever home only to be returned for being himself. If I was closer I would go get him. My guy could use a friend.
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Post by phdscrap on Aug 22, 2014 19:26:22 GMT
We took in a rescue great dane right two days before Christmas. She was 6 months and about 85lbs. She is just now really starting to relax like she accepts us as family. Not that she has been a problem, but she could be a bit withdrawn at times.
Our middle dog , a border collie we got from the local pound, was a nipper and a biter. (She didn't bite humans but she did bite other dogs). She was immediately happy to be brought home, but it took a couple of months to break her bad habits completely. (OK she still nips a bit when she gets super excited. I'll take it as long as she doesn't bite!)
She was a classic problem dog and I could see why the people had taken her to the pound. But she was smart and really needed such a minimal amount of training to stop biting. Now she is the only dog we have that can be off leash, people approach us all the time to tell us how great she is, how they'd love to have a dog like that.
A dog who bonded with a family and was then taken to a shelter will have a hard time trusting a second family. The real tragedy of your story is that the more times a dog is adopted and returned the harder it will be for a dog to ever trust a family is forever.
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Post by angieh1996 on Aug 22, 2014 19:45:40 GMT
Awww they makes me sad for Wyatt. 4 days is not long enough at all especially with other pets in the house. |
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Post by withapea on Aug 22, 2014 20:00:53 GMT
That's really, really sad. I think it depends on the dog. Our first rescue was right at home pretty quickly, a manner of days. Our newest rescue had a rougher start in life, we've had her a few months and I'd say it took a couple of months for her to really come into her own here. She's young and still needs training but that goes with having a dog. It breaks my heart when I hear how disposable animals are to some people. When we adopted our last dog we had to jump through some hoops, applications, multiple interviews, home visits. It can be a bit much in the moment but I also understand and appreciate that they went the extra mile to ensure that the dogs are likely to be going to a forever home.
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Post by Lexica on Aug 22, 2014 20:28:01 GMT
Awe that's so sad. Imagine how sad the puppy is think he was going to his forever home only to be returned for being himself. If I was closer I would go get him. My guy could use a friend. How far apart are you? Surely we have enough peas to make up a transportation line. I know if I was in that area, I'd absolutely drive a leg of it to make sure this sweet pup found a great home. It just breaks my heart that people do this. It is a puppy. Puppies play! I brought mine home as a puppy - only 12 weeks old. I donated the next few weeks to sleeping on the couch downstairs because it was the best environment to train him and if he had potty accidents, there was no carpeting to worry about. When he was finally to the stage where he was safe to bring upstairs, my three kitties HATED him. There was lots of hissing and swatting. The puppy was a puppy and wanted to play with those big furry critters. They eventually accepted each other and now snuggle up together on my bed. It just takes time and attention. We're a big group of women, how can we get that dog either to deshacrafts or into a new home? |
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Post by sisterbdsq on Aug 22, 2014 20:28:59 GMT
I hope they are banned from adopting in the future. Adopting isn't all rainbows and glitter shooting out of your ass (which would probably be painful anyway), and sometimes you have to take an animal back because despite your best effort he/she is not a match for your family. This situation, however, is just them being stupid about what their needs/wants/desires are in adding another being to their household. We have a puppy. I DID NOT WANT A PUPPY. Especially a little fluffy sissy dog. However, no one claimed this poor lost Malitpoo and damned if I was going to let her go to a shelter. I volunteer with a rescue and I didn't even bother to ask them, I just kept the dog. The Lord gave me a dog. Thank you Lord, we love her.  |
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Post by Lexica on Aug 22, 2014 20:34:09 GMT
We took in a rescue great dane right two days before Christmas. She was 6 months and about 85lbs. She is just now really starting to relax like she accepts us as family. Not that she has been a problem, but she could be a bit withdrawn at times. Our middle dog , a border collie we got from the local pound, was a nipper and a biter. (She didn't bite humans but she did bite other dogs). She was immediately happy to be brought home, but it took a couple of months to break her bad habits completely. (OK she still nips a bit when she gets super excited. I'll take it as long as she doesn't bite!) She was a classic problem dog and I could see why the people had taken her to the pound. But she was smart and really needed such a minimal amount of training to stop biting. Now she is the only dog we have that can be off leash, people approach us all the time to tell us how great she is, how they'd love to have a dog like that. A dog who bonded with a family and was then taken to a shelter will have a hard time trusting a second family. The real tragedy of your story is that the more times a dog is adopted and returned the harder it will be for a dog to ever trust a family is forever. Bless you for taking a nipper and biter into your home and loving him into better habits. Whatever went on in their past homes created their temperament and the right people, such as yourselves, in a new home find they have an entirely different dog once it is treated properly and trained! Thank you, thank you. |
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Post by Lexica on Aug 22, 2014 20:40:07 GMT
I hope they are banned from adopting in the future. Adopting isn't all rainbows and glitter shooting out of your ass (which would probably be painful anyway), and sometimes you have to take an animal back because despite your best effort he/she is not a match for your family. This situation, however, is just them being stupid about what their needs/wants/desires are in adding another being to their household. We have a puppy. I DID NOT WANT A PUPPY. Especially a little fluffy sissy dog. However, no one claimed this poor lost Malitpoo and damned if I was going to let her go to a shelter. I volunteer with a rescue and I didn't even bother to ask them, I just kept the dog. The Lord gave me a dog. Thank you Lord, we love her. Thank you so much for giving that maltipoo a loving home. Sometimes something we don't really want becomes something we cannot see living without. I think that dog was put in your life for a reason. I hope she gives you many years of love in return. Mine is the center of my world in so many ways. I can't imagine not having him now. |
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 22, 2014 20:57:03 GMT
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Post by Lexica on Aug 22, 2014 21:23:40 GMT
Unfortunately, I'm in Southern California. It would be awesome if we could find Wyatt a home! We sure do a lot of things others think can't be done. Why not this? I wish I was closer. I'd take a few snuggles from Wyatt while transferring him! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 21:32:54 GMT
That makes me sad and angry all at the same time. We have a lot of dog returns to our SPCA because of the military base. The employees do their best at making sure the family (or person)really wants the dog and is prepared for it but they still get returned. My son volunteered there for two summers and the Director told us almost 40% of all dogs that get adopted by a military person from our base (family or single) get returned. That's just horrible.
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Post by eebud on Aug 22, 2014 21:34:38 GMT
Poor Wyatt. That is not enough time for the puppy to settle in. Since Wyatt is a puppy, I bet he will be adopted by the end of the weekend and deshacrafts won't have a chance to figure out a way to get him to her.
My two dachshunds are rescues who spent their whole lives together. My female, Gretchen, was very much the alpha. It was easy to see that she had been bossing Hans around all his life. LOL When we adopted them, we also had Bud who was blind. Gretchen thought it was ok to try to boss around Bud too but he would have none of it. Bud wasn't an alpha but he was an only for a few years. He didn't have anyone to alpha over and being blind, it would be hard for him to be an alpha. Gretchen would snap at him when she didn't get her way. I had to teach her quickly that this was NOT acceptable. Bud was blind and couldn't defend himself the way Hans could if she snapped at him. Anyway, the snapping needed to stop completely. It took some time for them to settle in together. After about 2 weeks, things were going ok but I still had to watch Gretchen around Bud. Over the years, Bud and Hans became good buddies. Hans was wonderful with Bud and seemed to realize that he had to be gentle with him. Bud and Gretchen learned to tolerate each other. LOL When Bud died, both dogs mourned his loss. They had a rough 2 weeks or so. Gretchen would not let Hans out of her sight and if Hans laid down, she laid down on top of him. It was like she was telling him that he was not going away like Bud did.
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Post by iluvpink on Aug 22, 2014 21:39:48 GMT
Poor Wyatt! He looks SO much like our Meeka who we got from a rescue organization a year ago.
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Post by janeliz on Aug 22, 2014 21:40:30 GMT
That sucks. Poor little Wyatt.
I would say it's always taken a few weeks for our shelter pets to settle in and get into a good rhythm with the family.
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Post by BeckyTech on Aug 22, 2014 21:49:00 GMT
It may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for that pup.
I found out after the fact that Lacey had been adopted from the shelter but returned after only two weeks. It was a young woman who took her in and I guess she chewed and got into things. At just over a year old, that is to be expected.
I knew when I brought Lacey home that she was going to get into mischief if I wasn't on the alert. And she has: 1 Merrell shoe (I managed to get a replacement pair for a mere $60) one complete pair of glasses (frames and lenses $245) and my other glasses (thank goodness only the frame and not the glass part, but still it was $55.) All my fault because they were within reach when I wasn't paying enough attention.
In the 2 1/2 months since I brought her home, she's learned a lot more on what is hers and I've been more careful. But she is a joy that I wouldn't trade for anything. I work from home and can take her to the dog park twice a day on most days. I have a yard, but she can play with others and run full out at the dog park. I've taken her to training and we will probably do more - get her certified to be a visiting dog.
All this to say that I think Lacey has a pretty good life with me and I love and value her more than I can say. So sometimes getting returned to the shelter can be a blessing in disguise because they may go to a home better prepared to deal with puppyness and more devoted to their pets.
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 22, 2014 21:59:42 GMT
It may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for that pup. I found out after the fact that Lacey had been adopted from the shelter but returned after only two weeks. It was a young woman who took her in and I guess she chewed and got into things. At just over a year old, that is to be expected. I knew when I brought Lacey home that she was going to get into mischief if I wasn't on the alert. And she has: 1 Merrell shoe (I managed to get a replacement pair for a mere $60) one complete pair of glasses (frames and lenses $245) and my other glasses (thank goodness only the frame and not the glass part, but still it was $55.) All my fault because they were within reach when I wasn't paying enough attention. In the 2 1/2 months since I brought her home, she's learned a lot more on what is hers and I've been more careful. But she is a joy that I wouldn't trade for anything. I work from home and can take her to the dog park twice a day on most days. I have a yard, but she can play with others and run full out at the dog park. I've taken her to training and we will probably do more - get her certified to be a visiting dog. All this to say that I think Lacey has a pretty good life with me and I love and value her more than I can say. So sometimes getting returned to the shelter can be a blessing in disguise because they may go to a home better prepared to deal with puppyness and more devoted to their pets. I thought the same thing Becky. At my first meet and greet with Jaxson, Wyatt was with a young mum and her 2 sons, about 5 to 7. When the shelter told me Wyatt was adopted, I assumed it was this family. When the older couple came to pick Wyatt up, I was surprised but figured the shelter knew what they were doing. And perhaps the other mum changed her mind and didn't fill out papers for Wyatt. But I agree, Wyatt will find a home and I bet the shelter will make sure he goes to a home that wants and expects a playful puppy!! |
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Post by deshacrafts on Aug 22, 2014 22:08:27 GMT
I'm in Rhode Island, it's a little far to drive. |
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 22, 2014 22:33:17 GMT
Yes a bit. . Someone will adopt Wyatt of that I'm sure. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 22, 2014 23:40:10 GMT
I believe each animal is different and 4 days is not long enough, regardless if they came from a shelter, a friend, or a breeder. Several weeks at minimum if I had to assign a time. I personally am of the opinion that when I choose to bring an animal into the household they are there for the duration of their life barring anything catastrophic. Even new puppies take time to get settled in. I agree. When we brought our rescue kitty home a few years ago I let him decide when he was ready and when he wanted to come out to us. He's a Persian and the people that took him home before I did brought him back and said all he did was hide. I gave him my scrapbook room with a baby gate so the dogs couldn't get him and I stayed out until he peeked around and told me he was ready to investigate  Three years later he drinks from the dogs bowl, sleeps on my pillow and runs in front of the dogs crate whenever he wants to tease them |
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Post by mallie on Aug 22, 2014 23:50:55 GMT
I'm surprised people who already have dogs didn't realize beforehand that a puppy or any new animal will take time to settle in. But honestly, if they don't have any more patience than that, it's best for the dog to find a new home. I do hope the shelter staff explain very clearly to people that puppies require a LOT of patience, time and energy and that it may take months for them to settle down.
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Post by MichyM on Aug 23, 2014 0:04:50 GMT
I volunteer at our local shelter. I would give an animal months to settle in, but as someone else stated it sounds more like the family was not prepared to have a puppy in the house. For us, there is nothing worse than a dog or cat returning to the shelter. We do our very very best to screen potential adopters and help make good fits, but sometimes not so great folks/not really committed to the process folks slip through :/
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It takes at least a few weeks for a new animal to "settle in." A new home is a huge adjustment.
