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Post by pinklady on May 31, 2017 16:29:52 GMT
TMZ is reporting: "Trump family sources tell us Barron was in front of the TV watching a show when the news came on and he saw the bloody, beheaded image. We're told he panicked and screamed, "Mommy, Mommy!" As it was put to us, "He's 11. He doesn't know who Kathy Griffin is and the head she was holding resembled his dad." I call bullshit on this. Wonder if any young family members were horrified or scared that Donald said, in his own voice & words, that he likes to sexually assault women? Were any female family members afraid he'd grab their pussy? |
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Post by happymomma on May 31, 2017 16:30:42 GMT
Trump tweeted about his kids and especially Barron being very upset by this.
He, of course, got some backlash. People saying that their kids were upset about the way Trump made fun of the disabled reporter, etc.
I don't agree with the comic that did this, or anyone that would, but in a decent world maybe this would make Trump wake up and realize that things said and shown in public can be very upsetting to some viewers.
Fat chance that this would happen, that he would gather any enlightenment from the incident, but it would be nice.
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Post by lucillebluth on May 31, 2017 16:46:29 GMT
This is NOT representative of how we #RESIST. This hurts our movement to right the wrongs being forced on us by the current administration. This! |
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Post by schizo319 on May 31, 2017 17:00:10 GMT
Every single pea on this thread has said it's unacceptable (abhorrent, horrendous, disgusting, etc.) - someone mark the calendar - it appears we're ALL in agreement on something!
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Post by pondrunner on May 31, 2017 17:02:38 GMT
TMZ is reporting: "Trump family sources tell us Barron was in front of the TV watching a show when the news came on and he saw the bloody, beheaded image. We're told he panicked and screamed, "Mommy, Mommy!" As it was put to us, "He's 11. He doesn't know who Kathy Griffin is and the head she was holding resembled his dad." I call bullshit on this. Wonder if any young family members were horrified or scared that Donald said, in his own voice & words, that he likes to sexually assault women? Were any female family members afraid he'd grab their pussy? He is a child. I have a child same age and I would expect a similar reaction. The statement from DT you refer to was horrific and appalling. I am not comfortable however, using it to deflect from the feelings of a child who was exposed to such an image. He is a child and he did not choose any of this. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 17:04:59 GMT
TMZ is reporting: "Trump family sources tell us Barron was in front of the TV watching a show when the news came on and he saw the bloody, beheaded image. We're told he panicked and screamed, "Mommy, Mommy!" As it was put to us, "He's 11. He doesn't know who Kathy Griffin is and the head she was holding resembled his dad." I call bullshit on this. Wonder if any young family members were horrified or scared that Donald said, in his own voice & words, that he likes to sexually assault women? Were any female family members afraid he'd grab their pussy? Two wrongs don't make a right. |
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Post by used2scrap on May 31, 2017 17:11:50 GMT
It's just quite ironic that people keep telling everyone it is their own responsibility as parents to shield their children from things Trump says and does, yet Trump seemingly has no responsibility to shield his own child.
That being said, Kathy Griffin horribly crossed a line. But did Barron see any of the global news/magazine covers/political cartoons that were similarly offensive after the election/inauguration?
I find Trump dragging Barron by name and age into the tweets offensive as well.
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Post by ginacivey on May 31, 2017 17:12:12 GMT
I hadn't even thought about his young son possibly seeing it.  at some point his grandchildren will see it as well but as long as she got some attention even her apology sucked this whole fucking world has gone mad gina |
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Post by hop2 on May 31, 2017 17:14:51 GMT
I'm not a Trump fan, but this seems really inappropriate to do with the image of our President, regardless of how you feel about him. This is exactly where I stand. She feels strongly against him? That's fine. Find another (better) way to express that sentiment. Was this her idea or is she the willing actress for the artist? It's vile either way but I'm just curious who is the sicko with the idea vs who is the artist willing to follow and push boundaries. |
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Post by hop2 on May 31, 2017 17:17:45 GMT
Every single pea on this thread has said it's unacceptable (abhorrent, horrendous, disgusting, etc.) - someone mark the calendar - it appears we're ALL in agreement on something! And I guess put it on the spreadsheet that we were actually appalled and thought it was vile. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 31, 2017 17:27:55 GMT
Kathy Griffin has unfortunately done what NO ONE else in the world could have done. United us with Trump.
talk about a back fire.
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Post by annabella on May 31, 2017 17:35:36 GMT
The real question was this actually on TV? I would think any major network would have the common sense to censor out the picture of his face. So did anyone actually see this on TV?
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 31, 2017 17:42:20 GMT
Oh, yea. It was actually on ET last night. She was telling the photographer. We have to move. We need to move now.
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 31, 2017 17:43:05 GMT
Plus it was the whole thing. The head, how they made it bloody, holding it up and it was dripping, which you don't see in the photo. etc, etc.
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Post by used2scrap on May 31, 2017 17:45:46 GMT
Kathy Griffin has unfortunately done what NO ONE else in the world could have done. United us with Trump. talk about a back fire. Not to mention damaged the message given by those with lucid cogent issues with Trump, and provided ammunition to those who simply dismiss "the left" as rapid hysterics. |
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Post by epeanymous on May 31, 2017 17:48:54 GMT
So here is the thing.
Please note that not a single person in this thread is defending Kathy Griffin (I sure won't); this was disgusting and wrong.
The problem is that we have a President who has thrown decency out of the window with the things that he has said and done and encouraged. Yes, this is indefensible. So is encouraging people to rough up protesters at your rallies. So is bragging about sexually assaulting women. So is using racist epithets to describe your opponents (Pocahontas), so is bragging about a win in Montana when your party's candidate body-slammed a reporter the day before, so is spending years questioning the birthplace of the president in ways that were also incredibly racist and that, yes, his kids had to listen to as well.
Wouldn't it be lovely to have a President who is above that fray? Who doesn't communicate with people in gross and abusive ways? It in no way justifies what Kathy Griffin did -- it's not justified, and it is wrong. I just wish that what I had here was a president who respected dignity so that my first reaction here wasn't, "that is incredibly wrong and is also in many ways consonant with the violent trash culture we're dealing with in politics right now."
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Post by carhoch on May 31, 2017 17:49:03 GMT
I think everybody agreed that it was bad gross and inappropriate that being said Sasha Obama was nine years old when Mr. Trump started the birther bullshit ...
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Post by imsirius on May 31, 2017 17:50:13 GMT
CNN has indeed fired her.
Justly so.
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Post by imsirius on May 31, 2017 17:51:17 GMT
So here is the thing. Please note that not a single person in this thread is defending Kathy Griffin (I sure won't); this was disgusting and wrong. The problem is that we have a President who has thrown decency out of the window with the things that he has said and done and encouraged. Yes, this is indefensible. So is encouraging people to rough up protesters at your rallies. So is bragging about sexually assaulting women. So is using racist epithets to describe your opponents (Pocahontas), so is bragging about a win in Montana when your party's candidate body-slammed a reporter the day before, so is spending years questioning the birthplace of the president in ways that were also incredibly racist and that, yes, his kids had to listen to as well. Wouldn't it be lovely to have a President who is above that fray? Who doesn't communicate with people in gross and abusive ways? It in no way justifies what Kathy Griffin did -- it's not justified, and it is wrong. I just wish that what I had here was a president who respected dignity so that my first reaction here wasn't, "that is incredibly wrong and is also in many ways consonant with the violent trash culture we're dealing with in politics right now." Hear hear *standing Ovation* |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 17:54:26 GMT
It's just quite ironic that people keep telling everyone it is their own responsibility as parents to shield their children from things Trump says and does, yet Trump seemingly has no responsibility to shield his own child. That being said, Kathy Griffin horribly crossed a line. But did Barron see any of the global news/magazine covers/political cartoons that were similarly offensive after the election/inauguration? I find Trump dragging Barron by name and age into the tweets offensive as well. To be fair, his parents were likely (hopefully) actively censoring/monitoring the coverage of his dad around the election and inauguration, and hopefully, he's not consuming political media. A comic making a joke that is then broadcast, unexpectedly, on television, is a little hard to predict/prepare for/protect against. I'm not sure they can reasonably be expected to have been able to prepare for this. Offspring of Trump or not, he's still a child, and that wins. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 18:15:51 GMT
I'm just now seeing the tweet where Trump cries about his poor children, "especially Barron." The adult kids are on their own. They were part and parcel to enabling this monster to do equally vile things to other people. Trumps inclusion of them as "victims" in this lessons his defense of Barron, IMO.
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Post by Peamac on May 31, 2017 18:37:43 GMT
And Trump has grandchildren that could have seen the picture, too.
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Post by used2scrap on May 31, 2017 18:41:37 GMT
And Trump has grandchildren that could have seen the picture, too. And the Obama girls had to see images of their father "lynched" and hanging in this country. It's gross on all sides, and Trump was a prime leader in the birther/anti Obama sentiment, so it's surprising he is concerned about the children of a political leader now that the shoe is on the other foot. |
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Post by Peamac on May 31, 2017 20:30:46 GMT
And Trump has grandchildren that could have seen the picture, too. And the Obama girls had to see images of their father "lynched" and hanging in this country. It's gross on all sides, and Trump was a prime leader in the birther/anti Obama sentiment, so it's surprising he is concerned about the children of a political leader now that the shoe is on the other foot. It's a shame that anyone, especially kids,have to see their parents treated that way. I agree with what you said but to me, "those people think I wasn't born here in America" is different than "That lady wishes I were dead." So I wouldn't equate the birther stuff to this. The lynchings, etc definitely! Any and all disturbing depictions of our Presidents are uncalled for. Hopefully this will cause Trump to rethink his words and actions. I definitely recall many people questioning Obama's birth, even when he was running for President the first time. Trump certainly wasn't the first to bring it up. Even Hillary was questioning it. |
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Post by imsirius on May 31, 2017 20:35:30 GMT
And the Obama girls had to see images of their father "lynched" and hanging in this country. It's gross on all sides, and Trump was a prime leader in the birther/anti Obama sentiment, so it's surprising he is concerned about the children of a political leader now that the shoe is on the other foot. I agree, but "those people think I wasn't born here in America" is different than "That lady wishes I were dead," Any and all disturbing depictions of our Presidents are uncalled for. Hopefully this will cause Trump to rethink his words and actions. I definitely recall many people questioning Obama's birth, even when he was running for President the first time. Trump certainly wasn't the first to bring it up. Even Hillary was questioning it. I'm sorry, but the Obama girls would have seen photos of their father's effigy hanging from a tree. Give me a break. It wasn't just about his birth. Trump was one of the first on the bandwagon with the provide a birth certificate crap. Also, the loudest. |
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Post by Peamac on May 31, 2017 20:38:03 GMT
Sorry imsirius- I'm peaing on a new phone. I was editing my post as you were quoting it. I guess I just didn't follow the news very much 8 years ago. |
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Post by mnmloveli on May 31, 2017 20:40:29 GMT
And the Obama girls had to see images of their father "lynched" and hanging in this country. It's gross on all sides, and Trump was a prime leader in the birther/anti Obama sentiment, so it's surprising he is concerned about the children of a political leader now that the shoe is on the other foot. It's a shame that anyone, especially kids,have to see their parents treated that way. I agree with what you said but to me, "those people think I wasn't born here in America" is different than "That lady wishes I were dead." So I wouldn't equate the birther stuff to this. The lynchings, etc definitely! Any and all disturbing depictions of our Presidents are uncalled for. Hopefully this will cause Trump to rethink his words and actions. I definitely recall many people questioning Obama's birth, even when he was running for President the first time. Trump certainly wasn't the first to bring it up. Even Hillary was questioning it. Well said Peamac! |
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Post by imsirius on May 31, 2017 20:43:18 GMT
Sorry imsirius - I'm peaing on a new phone. I was editing my post as you were quoting it. I guess I just didn't follow the news very much 8 years ago. Geez..lol...I wish I had seen the post after you edited. Thank you. I agree with the part that kids should never have to see things like these. Somehow, I think Barron will have to stop watching tv for 4 years. 😖 |
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Post by pondrunner on May 31, 2017 20:46:58 GMT
I'm just now seeing the tweet where Trump cries about his poor children, "especially Barron." The adult kids are on their own. They were part and parcel to enabling this monster to do equally vile things to other people. Trumps inclusion of them as "victims" in this lessons his defense of Barron, IMO. The more I think about this the more I don't find this to be a defense. I myself have argued Barron is a child and did not choose nor deserve to have this happen to him. That is terrible. But Trump's adult children, as abhorrent as he is and as self servicing as I suspect they are, are also people and I would expect this to have emotional response from them also. This is not a dictator who has murdered citizens and stood trial for war crimes. This is a really, really horribly bad president. I could name you ten worse dudes on the planet today. I will maintain that the demonstration is in poor taste and I would side with Trump's adult children on this one also. My dad is a top notch asshole too, but put up an effigy of him and we are gonna have a bad time. |
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Post by annabella on May 31, 2017 20:52:31 GMT
I don't think Barron saw it, if he watches TV I'm sure everything is TIVOed. It's just convenient for Trump to say his son saw it as the reason for disgust. He's going for a sympathy plea as he assumes no one cares about him personally being offended due to him offending others on a regular basis. There's a commercial I see regularly by a Congressman denouncing Donald Trump. There are commercials with clips from late night shows making fun on Trump. I'm surprised Barron would actually be allowed to watch live TV with commercials.
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