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Post by gar on Jul 18, 2017 22:25:39 GMT
Apologies if I missed a thread about this. How on earth can this happen? This lady Justine Damond called the police to a disturbance she heard near her home and ended up being shot by them! Is there anything any further updates on this, although I guess there's going to be some sort of investigation? www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40627847
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 18, 2017 22:38:24 GMT
WTF? She's standing at the driver's door talking to him, when the passenger draws out & shoots her?
There has GOT to be more to this story.
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Post by gar on Jul 18, 2017 22:42:32 GMT
I read there was no light, neither officer had a torch on but that doesn't make it any easier to understand. Her poor family and fiancé... she was due to marry soon 🙁
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Post by littlemama on Jul 18, 2017 22:43:07 GMT
The investigation is ongoing and no details are being released until it is complete, which is a refreshing change. And the fact that I just said "refreshing change" in reference to a shooting investigation should tell you that this needs to stop. (Generic "you").
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Jul 18, 2017 22:44:42 GMT
I just heard about this on the radio. Neither of the police had their body cams on (which is against Minnesota law), and the officer who shot her had already had three complaints against him.
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Post by melanell on Jul 18, 2017 22:50:15 GMT
As mentioned in the post above mine, in regards tot his quote from the article:
I am absolutely sick and tired of reading this over and over again in so many of these cases. Why do they even have these cameras if they can't be made to actually have them recording when they are responding to a call, pulling someone over, etc.??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:57:06 GMT
I can't think of any valid reason that this should have happened, even with the minimum information that we have to date....a woman in her pyjamas talking to the officer in the driving seat when his partner shoots her from the passenger side Her poor family. I can't imagine what they are going through.
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Post by RosieKat on Jul 18, 2017 23:00:23 GMT
The police officer has been identified publicly, as per my local news channel, so at least some details are coming out already.
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Post by littlemama on Jul 18, 2017 23:20:38 GMT
The police officer has been identified publicly, as per my local news channel, so at least some details are coming out already. I disagree with publicly identifying the officer unless charges are filed. It ruins the officer's reputation, his right to privacy and jeopardizes his safety.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 18, 2017 23:33:22 GMT
I read that the officer who was talking to the woman was shocked when his partner shot her.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 19, 2017 0:10:01 GMT
Needless to say this has been on the news here for the last few days.
I heard an American reporter on the radio this morning. He said that she is the 547th person killed by police. The Australian guy asked over what period of time, and was shocked when told THIS YEAR. 547 people killed by police in 6½ months. WTF.
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 19, 2017 0:15:45 GMT
Needless to say this has been on the news here for the last few days. I heard an American reporter on the radio this morning. He said that she is the 547th person killed by police. The Australian guy asked over what period of time, and was shocked when told THIS YEAR. 547 people killed by police in 6½ months. WTF. I am guessing the Australian experience is someone different, yes?
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 19, 2017 0:17:09 GMT
The police officer has been identified publicly, as per my local news channel, so at least some details are coming out already. I disagree with publicly identifying the officer unless charges are filed. It ruins the officer's reputation, his right to privacy and jeopardizes his safety. That is true for people who aren't police officers too.
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Dalai Mama
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 19, 2017 0:20:09 GMT
Needless to say this has been on the news here for the last few days. I heard an American reporter on the radio this morning. He said that she is the 547th person killed by police. The Australian guy asked over what period of time, and was shocked when told THIS YEAR. 547 people killed by police in 6½ months. WTF. I am guessing the Australian experience is someone different, yes? Can't speak to Australia but we had seven last year in Canada. Quick math, you're averaging over 18 a week.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 19, 2017 0:22:07 GMT
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 19, 2017 0:25:45 GMT
I heard an American reporter on the radio this morning. He said that she is the 547th person killed by police. The Australian guy asked over what period of time, and was shocked when told THIS YEAR. 547 people killed by police in 6½ months. WTF. I am guessing the Australian experience is someone different, yes? Yeah, pretty much.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 19, 2017 0:26:18 GMT
the whole thing is being very strange. There has been very minimal info shared. Even the police federation who have spoken out in all the other shootings, have been very vocal in the past, esp with these high profile cases, have not said a word. Nothing.
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Post by t2x on Jul 19, 2017 1:19:08 GMT
The media have certainly been reporting it over here and I was so surprised that nobody was talking about it on the peas.
With the number of killings in the US at the hands of the police recently I don't know how you would feel confident calling in a report anymore.
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Post by AnotherPea on Jul 19, 2017 1:20:05 GMT
So Cop#2 shoots while he's in the car? That gun had to be right at Cop#1's head. WTH?
As far as body cameras being on or not, it is my understanding that some cameras have limited recording times. So cops only turn them on when they feel it is warranted - chasing someone, approaching a stopped vehicle, etc. I have no idea if that's the case or not here.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 19, 2017 1:23:13 GMT
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Post by lindas on Jul 19, 2017 1:57:11 GMT
The article says he shot through the open window but the medical examiner said she died of a gunshot wound to the abdomen. How is that even possible???
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 19, 2017 1:59:27 GMT
? how is that NOT possible? she was standing outside the car, infront of the window, and he extended his shooting arm, and shot out the open window. I assume his partner was too shocked to react, or do anything? he must have put his arm right across him.
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Post by frenchie on Jul 19, 2017 2:43:49 GMT
And the officer who shot the woman is apparently refusing to be interviewed. Wtf
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 19, 2017 2:51:31 GMT
The article says he shot through the open window but the medical examiner said she died of a gunshot wound to the abdomen. How is that even possible??? her lower chest through to upper abodomen was framed by the open window if she was standing by the car I can't believe the shooter shot across the body of his partner. What if he had turned his body at the wrong moment? The medical examiner has ruled her death a homicide so I'm assuming the charges are coming.
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DEX
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Post by DEX on Jul 19, 2017 2:53:40 GMT
Needless to say this has been on the news here for the last few days. I heard an American reporter on the radio this morning. He said that she is the 547th person killed by police. The Australian guy asked over what period of time, and was shocked when told THIS YEAR. 547 people killed by police in 6½ months. WTF. Wow, I am surprised by that high number. I see it is from the Washington Post. It also said that 25% involved mental illness. Scary!
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 19, 2017 2:56:39 GMT
tensions have been very high in the Twin Cities following the Castile case. A lot of that trial focused on the officers statement after the shooting. I think he is just being very careful, or being legally advised this.
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DEX
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Post by DEX on Jul 19, 2017 2:57:48 GMT
The article says he shot through the open window but the medical examiner said she died of a gunshot wound to the abdomen. How is that even possible??? her lower chest through to upper abodomen was framed by the open window if she was standing by the car I can't believe the shooter shot across the body of his partner. What if he had turned his body at the wrong moment? The medical examiner has ruled her death a homicide so I'm assuming the charges are coming. The manner of death was homicide but an article I read today said it is still up to the County Attorney if charges will be filed. It doesn't sound as if the investigation has even gotten started as the Mayor has asked for an outside agency to conduct the investigation.
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Post by zella on Jul 19, 2017 6:21:23 GMT
I don't give a shit if putting out the name of the asshole who shot this woman puts him in danger. Don't care. He is a murderer who will probably walk free like all the other cops who kill totally innocent people. I am so so sick of this. I also have NO faith in police at this point. In fact if you do, maybe you're crazy. Because next time it could be you that's murdered. Or me. Or my daughter. Your son. Let's stop pussyfooting around and call these cases what they are: murder.
And yes, I know there are good cops. But there are way, way too many bad ones. And NO ONE should be putting their life in danger just by being in the same vicinity as cops. That's where we're at in the US. Especially if you are black. It is sickening.
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Post by scrapgirl on Jul 19, 2017 6:55:11 GMT
And the officer who shot the woman is apparently refusing to be interviewed. Wtf He is refusing to talk to cops probably on the advice of counsel. He has the same rights of anyone else being questioned in a shooting investigation. He will have been notified of his rights, and chose to exercise them. I personally find that cowardly of him - especially if he feels that it was a justified shooting. But frankly, if I was his lawyer, I would advise him the same way. This is a very troubling and tragic case. I feel for the victim's family and am happy to hear that an outside agency is being brought in to investigate. SaveSave
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Post by gar on Jul 19, 2017 7:12:18 GMT
I am guessing the Australian experience is someone different, yes? Yeah, pretty much. No shit!!!
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