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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 2, 2017 2:20:39 GMT
And, another thread devolves into the "Let's fight with Gia" show. I stopped reading after she said I was siding with Neo-nazis and domestic terrorists and Trump was not. Don't get sucked in. it doesn't matter how much you argue. she'll continue to not defend Trump (hahahahaha) and we'll all continue to bash our head into a wall. And, in the meantime, the actual point of the thread is lost. Yep. With this last unbelievable lie filled rant of hers, it's crystal clear she's a trump supporter who refuses to acknowledge the words that came out of his own big fucking mouth, and instead operates on gaslighting, lies, alternative Facts, and propaganda. You're not looking for any civil discussion Gia. You're certifiably obtuse and just plain brainwashed and blind to what actually has transpired. You can go argue round and round with yourself, stuck in that echo chamber of your own creation, where you pretend to not support the lunatic in the Oval Office. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 2:21:53 GMT
And there it is. Demonize the person with the opposing view instead of letting the civil discourse happen. Yup. You're a victim. No one is demonizing you. You, lauren (sorry, lovestocolor), and olan have a lot in common. Stir up shit and fling it, and then play victim. Enjoy the view from up on your cross. I'm no victim, I'm showing that we were having a civil discussion and you came along to shut it down because? you didn't like opposing opinion? what? There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of the thread came from YOU. Not me. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 2:25:26 GMT
Yup. You're a victim. No one is demonizing you. You, lauren (sorry, lovestocolor), and olan have a lot in common. Stir up shit and fling it, and then play victim. Enjoy the view from up on your cross. I'm no victim, I'm showing that we were having a civil discussion and you came along to shut it down because? you didn't like opposing opinion? what? There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of the thread came from YOU. Not me. Stephen Miller is still at the White House. Steve Bannon and Seb Gorka have left. It has been reported that trump still calls Bannon. Look them up yourself. Google is your friend. |
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Post by inkedup on Sept 2, 2017 2:28:16 GMT
Yup. You're a victim. No one is demonizing you. You, lauren (sorry, lovestocolor), and olan have a lot in common. Stir up shit and fling it, and then play victim. Enjoy the view from up on your cross. I'm no victim, I'm showing that we were having a civil discussion and you came along to shut it down because? you didn't like opposing opinion? what? There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of the thread came from YOU. Not me. You can't claim the high ground when you accused me of aligning myself with Neo-nazis. Funny thing is, I didn't accuse you of demonizing me. Not sure how I demonized you by saying it's pointless to engage, but whatever. I'm not you going to engage you any further. You keep right on "not" defending Trump. Have fun! |
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Post by lucyg on Sept 2, 2017 2:30:01 GMT
I'm no victim, I'm showing that we were having a civil discussion and you came along to shut it down because? you didn't like opposing opinion? what? There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of the thread came from YOU. Not me. Stephen Miller is still at the White House. Steve Bannon and Seb Gorka have left. It has been reported that trump still calls Bannon. Look them up yourself. Google is your friend. snort. I'm beginning to think you may be on ignore.  |
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Post by redhead32 on Sept 2, 2017 2:40:13 GMT
I'm no victim, I'm showing that we were having a civil discussion and you came along to shut it down because? you didn't like opposing opinion? what? There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of the thread came from YOU. Not me. Stephen Miller is still at the White House. Steve Bannon and Seb Gorka have left. It has been reported that trump still calls Bannon. Look them up yourself. Google is your friend. This infuriates me. If you want to side with racists, own it. If you want to defend Trump, own it. If you refuse to look at the history of whites and blacks in this country with ANY level of critical thinking, own it. Don't play victim and claim that people are shutting you down because you have an opposing opinion. You cherry pick what you want to respond to, throw red herrings about Obama and Muslim terrorists, and then get off on saying that you are the one being attacked. Thinking isn't really that hard. Being objective, in a very simplistic sense, isn't that hard. EMPATHY FOR OTHERS ISN'T THAT HARD. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 2:47:13 GMT
I'm no victim, I'm showing that we were having a civil discussion and you came along to shut it down because? you didn't like opposing opinion? what? There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of the thread came from YOU. Not me. You can't claim the high ground when you accused me of aligning myself with Neo-nazis. Funny thing is, I didn't accuse you of demonizing me. Not sure how I demonized you by saying it's pointless to engage, but whatever. I'm not you going to engage you any further. You keep right on "not" defending Trump. Have fun! Last night you were cussing and throwing snark at me and said they thought the same thing as you did and that was proof. I said I WOULDN'T align my thinking with them if I were you, but you do you. You dished it out but now want to claim the high ground. That's rich. Today I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of this thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. I'm not to blame for this derailment and I will point out the hypocrisy every time. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 2:48:57 GMT
Stephen Miller is still at the White House. Steve Bannon and Seb Gorka have left. It has been reported that trump still calls Bannon. Look them up yourself. Google is your friend. This infuriates me. If you want to side with racists, own it. If you want to defend Trump, own it. If you refuse to look at the history of whites and blacks in this country with ANY level of critical thinking, own it. Don't play victim and claim that people are shutting you down because you have an opposing opinion. You cherry pick what you want to respond to, throw red herrings about Obama and Muslim terrorists, and then get off on saying that you are the one being attacked. Thinking isn't really that hard. Being objective, in a very simplistic sense, isn't that hard. EMPATHY FOR OTHERS ISN'T THAT HARD. I'm not cherry picking anything. I responded to the claim and deflated it with the facts. |
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Post by inkedup on Sept 2, 2017 2:53:37 GMT
You can't claim the high ground when you accused me of aligning myself with Neo-nazis. Funny thing is, I didn't accuse you of demonizing me. Not sure how I demonized you by saying it's pointless to engage, but whatever. I'm not you going to engage you any further. You keep right on "not" defending Trump. Have fun! Last night you were cussing and throwing snark at me and said they thought the same thing as you did and that was proof. I said I WOULDN'T align my thinking with them if I were you, but you do you. You dished it out but now want to claim the high ground. That's rich. Today I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of thia thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. I'm not taking the blame for it anymore. I will point out the hypocrisy every time. Cussing at you? mmmkay. I believe I said "fucking neo-nazis." Unless you are a neo-nazi, too, then no. I did not cuss at you. And I wasn't aware that the general pea population wasn't allowed to comment on public threads. damn, you are as good at playing word twister as you are at playing victim. I'm ignoring you for real now. You can reframe this story however you want to. A quick read of The actual posts that we exchanged will make it clear that no, you weren't cussed at and you weren't demonized. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 3:00:47 GMT
Stephen Miller is still at the White House. Steve Bannon and Seb Gorka have left. It has been reported that trump still calls Bannon. Look them up yourself. Google is your friend. snort. I'm beginning to think you may be on ignore. I'm thinking you may be right 😀 But she asked.... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 3:03:08 GMT
This infuriates me. If you want to side with racists, own it. If you want to defend Trump, own it. If you refuse to look at the history of whites and blacks in this country with ANY level of critical thinking, own it. Don't play victim and claim that people are shutting you down because you have an opposing opinion. You cherry pick what you want to respond to, throw red herrings about Obama and Muslim terrorists, and then get off on saying that you are the one being attacked. Thinking isn't really that hard. Being objective, in a very simplistic sense, isn't that hard. EMPATHY FOR OTHERS ISN'T THAT HARD. I'm not cherry picking anything. I responded to the claim and deflated it with the facts. Stephen Miller is still at the White House. Steve Bannon and Seb Gorka have left. It's been reported that trump still calls Bannon. Look them up yourself. Google is your friend. |
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Post by redhead32 on Sept 2, 2017 3:04:45 GMT
This infuriates me. If you want to side with racists, own it. If you want to defend Trump, own it. If you refuse to look at the history of whites and blacks in this country with ANY level of critical thinking, own it. Don't play victim and claim that people are shutting you down because you have an opposing opinion. You cherry pick what you want to respond to, throw red herrings about Obama and Muslim terrorists, and then get off on saying that you are the one being attacked. Thinking isn't really that hard. Being objective, in a very simplistic sense, isn't that hard. EMPATHY FOR OTHERS ISN'T THAT HARD. I'm not cherry picking anything. I responded to the claim and deflated it with the facts. What facts did you deflate? Trump chose racists to surround and advise him in the White House. Bannon and Gorka are gone, but Miller is still present. How can you deflate those facts? I'm also trying to figure out what "Muslim terrorists" were installed by President Obama. Did I need to read Breitbart to learn about this? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 3:16:40 GMT
Last night you were cussing and throwing snark at me and said they thought the same thing as you did and that was proof. I said I WOULDN'T align my thinking with them if I were you, but you do you. You dished it out but now want to claim the high ground. That's rich. Today I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of thia thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. I'm not taking the blame for it anymore. I will point out the hypocrisy every time. Cussing at you? mmmkay. I believe I said "fucking neo-nazis." Unless you are a neo-nazi, too, then no. I did not cuss at you. And I wasn't aware that the general pea population wasn't allowed to comment on public threads. damn, you are as good at playing word twister as you are at playing victim. I'm ignoring you for real now. You can reframe this story however you want to. A quick read of The actual posts that we exchanged will make it clear that no, you weren't cussed at and you weren't demonized. I said cussing AND throwing snark at me. Two different things. 1. cussing 2. throwing snark at me No reframing needed, that's what I said. Today I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of this thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. I'm not to blame for this derailment. |
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Post by inkedup on Sept 2, 2017 3:30:47 GMT
Cussing at you? mmmkay. I believe I said "fucking neo-nazis." Unless you are a neo-nazi, too, then no. I did not cuss at you. And I wasn't aware that the general pea population wasn't allowed to comment on public threads. damn, you are as good at playing word twister as you are at playing victim. I'm ignoring you for real now. You can reframe this story however you want to. A quick read of The actual posts that we exchanged will make it clear that no, you weren't cussed at and you weren't demonized. I said cussing AND throwing snark at me. Two different things. 1. cussing 2. throwing snark at me No reframing needed, that's what I said. Today I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of this thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. I'm not to blame for this derailment. I'll be sure to be extremely polite when I speak of Neo-Nazis in the future 😘 I had no idea it would hurt you so much to hear someone call them "f$%^&*g Neo-Nazis." I won't apologize for interjecting a fact into a discussion on a public message board. At this point, our side argument is as guilty of derailing the conversation as your constant arguments with others here. I've made a liar of myself several times by continuing to engage when I said I wouldn't. You keep proving my point that it's futile to engage you. You twist words. Your mind is made up. I'm not sure why you're butt hurt that I said so. I don't seem to recall you taking any offense when I said the exact same thing about Olan a few weeks ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 5:23:43 GMT
I said cussing AND throwing snark at me. Two different things. 1. cussing 2. throwing snark at me No reframing needed, that's what I said. Today I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of this thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. I'm not to blame for this derailment. I'll be sure to be extremely polite when I speak of Neo-Nazis in the future 😘 I had no idea it would hurt you so much to hear someone call them "f$%^&*g Neo-Nazis." I won't apologize for interjecting a fact into a discussion on a public message board. At this point, our side argument is as guilty of derailing the conversation as your constant arguments with others here. I've made a liar of myself several times by continuing to engage when I said I wouldn't. You keep proving my point that it's futile to engage you. You twist words. Your mind is made up. I'm not sure why you're butt hurt that I said so. I don't seem to recall you taking any offense when I said the exact same thing about Olan a few weeks ago. I didn't say it hurt me at all, I brought it up because you tried to say I started this. The fact is I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of this thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. And yet as usual I get the blame. I'm not to blame for this derailment. Period. |
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Post by inkedup on Sept 2, 2017 5:36:21 GMT
I'll be sure to be extremely polite when I speak of Neo-Nazis in the future 😘 I had no idea it would hurt you so much to hear someone call them "f$%^&*g Neo-Nazis." I won't apologize for interjecting a fact into a discussion on a public message board. At this point, our side argument is as guilty of derailing the conversation as your constant arguments with others here. I've made a liar of myself several times by continuing to engage when I said I wouldn't. You keep proving my point that it's futile to engage you. You twist words. Your mind is made up. I'm not sure why you're butt hurt that I said so. I don't seem to recall you taking any offense when I said the exact same thing about Olan a few weeks ago. I didn't say it hurt me at all, I brought it up because you tried to say I started this. The fact is I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of this thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. And yet as usual I get the blame. I'm not to blame for this derailment. Period. actually, the reason for me to post was to remind you that even the "very fine" 😉 neo-nazis were celebrating Trump's speech the day after Charlottesville. Since you were so civilly providing the alternative fact that Trump had actually not said what we all watched him say. I made a point that was was quite germane to the discussion. instead of addressing my point, you climbed up on your cross, complained about me using the f word, and accused me of demonizing you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 5:46:32 GMT
I'm not cherry picking anything. I responded to the claim and deflated it with the facts. What facts did you deflate? Trump chose racists to surround and advise him in the White House. Bannon and Gorka are gone, but Miller is still present. How can you deflate those facts? I'm also trying to figure out what "Muslim terrorists" were installed by President Obama. Did I need to read Breitbart to learn about this? These are new facts you're now interjecting and had nothing to do with what I was talking about, so I couldn't have said I deflated them. If you have some proof, that these people are racists, then lets see it. I mentioned the "muslim terrorist" claim because, despite the facts about it, the claim holds about as much weight as "trump supports white supremacy". |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 5:52:02 GMT
What facts did you deflate? Trump chose racists to surround and advise him in the White House. Bannon and Gorka are gone, but Miller is still present. How can you deflate those facts? I'm also trying to figure out what "Muslim terrorists" were installed by President Obama. Did I need to read Breitbart to learn about this? These are new facts you're now interjecting and had nothing to do with what I was talking about, so I couldn't have said I deflated them. If you have some proof, that these people are racists, then lets see it. I mentioned the "muslim terrorist" claim because, despite the facts about it, the claim holds about as much weight as "trump supports white supremacy". Since I seem to be on her ignore list  Someone should tell her to look these guys up. She's not that helpless. Or maybe she is. Or maybe she isn't interested in any facts but her own. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 5:52:32 GMT
I didn't say it hurt me at all, I brought it up because you tried to say I started this. The fact is I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of this thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. And yet as usual I get the blame. I'm not to blame for this derailment. Period. actually, the reason for me to post was to remind you that even the "very fine" 😉 neo-nazis were celebrating Trump's speech the day after Charlottesville. Since you were so civilly providing the alternative fact that Trump had actually not said what we all watched him say. I made a point that was was quite germane to the discussion. instead of addressing my point, you climbed up on your cross, complained about me using the f word, and accused me of demonizing you. You skipped a few steps in there, but I don't know how many ways to say it that it's going to take for you to comprehend that I'm not complaining about you doing some cussing and throwing some snark at me. It was in response to your claim of "You can't claim the high ground when you..." Once again, the fact is I was having a civil discussion with Kristen. There was no reason for you to post what you posted. None. The disruption of this thread came from YOU. Not me. As usual. I'm not to blame for this derailment. Period. |
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Post by redhead32 on Sept 2, 2017 5:55:02 GMT
What facts did you deflate? Trump chose racists to surround and advise him in the White House. Bannon and Gorka are gone, but Miller is still present. How can you deflate those facts? I'm also trying to figure out what "Muslim terrorists" were installed by President Obama. Did I need to read Breitbart to learn about this? These are new facts you're now interjecting and had nothing to do with what I was talking about, so I couldn't have said I deflated them. If you have some proof, that these people are racists, then lets see it. I mentioned the "muslim terrorist" claim because, despite the facts about it, the claim holds about as much weight as "trump supports white supremacy". Righto. Breitbart fodder. One (Obama and the Muslim brotherhood) is completely false and created to smear a black president. The other (Trump's support of white supremacy) is based on recorded words and actions, as well as accolades of loud and proud white supremacists. It's been swell trying to have a fact based discussion. I'm out. |
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Post by lucyg on Sept 2, 2017 5:55:23 GMT
These are new facts you're now interjecting and had nothing to do with what I was talking about, so I couldn't have said I deflated them. If you have some proof, that these people are racists, then lets see it. I mentioned the "muslim terrorist" claim because, despite the facts about it, the claim holds about as much weight as "trump supports white supremacy". Since I seem to be on her ignore list Someone should tell her to look these guys up. She's not that helpless. Or maybe she is. Or maybe she isn't interested in any facts but her own. Yeah, if she's denying that Bannon, Gorka, and Miller are white nationalists ... one step away from Nazis ... it's because she doesn't want to know. It's not like there's some big secret about it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 5:55:46 GMT
These are new facts you're now interjecting and had nothing to do with what I was talking about, so I couldn't have said I deflated them. If you have some proof, that these people are racists, then lets see it. I mentioned the "muslim terrorist" claim because, despite the facts about it, the claim holds about as much weight as "trump supports white supremacy". Since I seem to be on her ignore list Someone should tell her to look these guys up. She's not that helpless. Or maybe she is. Or maybe she isn't interested in any facts but her own. I have no one on ignore. I'm not looking up your points for you. If you have some proof, that these people are racists, then lets see it otherwise you're not making a valid point and there's nothing really to respond to. |
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Post by redhead32 on Sept 2, 2017 5:58:59 GMT
These are new facts you're now interjecting and had nothing to do with what I was talking about, so I couldn't have said I deflated them. If you have some proof, that these people are racists, then lets see it. I mentioned the "muslim terrorist" claim because, despite the facts about it, the claim holds about as much weight as "trump supports white supremacy". Since I seem to be on her ignore list Someone should tell her to look these guys up. She's not that helpless. Or maybe she is. Or maybe she isn't interested in any facts but her own. I totally missed the memo that there is a specific order and methodology to the "discussions." My bad for introducing "new facts." 🙄 |
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Post by redhead32 on Sept 2, 2017 6:01:04 GMT
Also. No possible way to not know what Gorka, Bannon, and Miller stand for, if one follows the new at all. None.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 6:05:00 GMT
Since I seem to be on her ignore list Someone should tell her to look these guys up. She's not that helpless. Or maybe she is. Or maybe she isn't interested in any facts but her own. I have no one on ignore. I'm not looking up your points for you. If you have some proof, that these people are racists, then lets see it otherwise you're not making a valid point and there's nothing really to respond to. You have more in common with trump than I thought. You both are intellectually lazy with no curiosity. The fact is trump is either leaning toward white nationalist or is a card carrying member. My guess is he is a card carrying member. You can chose to believe it or not. The choice is yours. |
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My guess is she will ignore this because it doesn't fit her narrative. Stay cool tomorrow and just remember by this time next week we'll be back to normal. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 6:46:39 GMT
I have no one on ignore. I'm not looking up your points for you. If you have some proof, that these people are racists, then lets see it otherwise you're not making a valid point and there's nothing really to respond to. You have more in common with trump than I thought. You both are intellectually lazy with no curiosity. The fact is trump is either leaning toward white nationalist or is a card carrying member. My guess is he is a card carrying member. You can chose to believe it or not. The choice is yours. You're trying to make a point and want me to prove it and you call me intellectually lazy.  This is the same asinine logic that's used to claim Trump said Nazis and white supremacists are good people. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 6:48:23 GMT
Thanks, I'll check them out. |
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