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Post by JoP on Nov 5, 2017 21:13:05 GMT
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Post by carhoch on Nov 5, 2017 21:13:08 GMT
No. One shooter did this, not our leaders. Don't turn this into something political please. It's sad enough already. Save It happens every day ,it is in the news for a day or two and then we MoveOn ,what need to happen before we can turn it to something political and do something about it The politicians are the only one who can do something about it but every time it happens people like you are like ,oh not now ,we cannot talk about it now ,we need to grieve it is so sad blah blah blah When will be a good time to talk about it in your opinion ? |
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Post by casii on Nov 5, 2017 21:16:07 GMT
Oh, yes, by all means let’s have more moments of silence. Those are keeping us so safe. Don't forget prayer! Because that always helps. That poor congregation and their community. As a Christian, I pray for them and I fervently pray for changes towards responsible gun control and my thoughts are to continue emailing, calling and voting so that these tragedies don't remain a daily scroll across our news feed. This isn't a heart problem. This can be helped with better gun controls. |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Nov 5, 2017 21:16:33 GMT
How dreadful.
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 5, 2017 21:17:10 GMT
Our leaders didn’t pull the trigger but absolutely enabled this and other similar tragedies. What is sad is that this disgusting violence continues unchecked with nothing but shrugs, thoughts and prayers. If the same kind of numbers of people were routinely killed by anything other than guns in this country, you damn well know SOMETHING would have been done by now. But the fetishization of guns by a segment of our population and leaders means that NOTHING EVER CHANGES. IT’S DISGUSTING. But we don't know what happened with this shooting. I am for changes, but I'm waiting for the whole story to come out. Prayers and thoughts are pointless. There seems to be an indifference to mass casualties in the U.S. now and I doubt there would be changes if they were killed with something other than a gun. |
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Post by carhoch on Nov 5, 2017 21:17:20 GMT
Oh, yes, by all means let’s have more moments of silence. Those are keeping us so safe. Don't forget prayer! Because that always helps. Who are those prayer helping exactly not the people that got shot in church not the kids who lost their parents or parents that lots their kids. |
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Post by scrappinmama on Nov 5, 2017 21:19:49 GMT
More blood on our leaders’ hands. I see they are sending out their empty "thoughts and prayers" tweets. We don't need their damn prayers! We need them to do something about the gun problem in this country! |
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 5, 2017 21:20:10 GMT
As a Christian, I pray for them and I fervently pray for changes towards responsible gun control and my thoughts are to continue emailing, calling and voting so that these tragedies don't remain a daily scroll across our news feed. This isn't a heart problem. This can be helped with better gun controls. I partially agree with you. If you feel better praying, then go for it, but I don't believe it helps anyone. Emailing, calling, and voting. That will change things. |
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 5, 2017 21:20:45 GMT
Who are those prayer helping exactly not the people that got shot in church not the kids who lost their parents or parents that lots their kids. I was being sarcastic. I should have added an emoji. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 5, 2017 21:26:07 GMT
Domestic terrorism regardless of the motivating factors.
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Post by busy on Nov 5, 2017 21:27:01 GMT
Our leaders didn’t pull the trigger but absolutely enabled this and other similar tragedies. What is sad is that this disgusting violence continues unchecked with nothing but shrugs, thoughts and prayers. If the same kind of numbers of people were routinely killed by anything other than guns in this country, you damn well know SOMETHING would have been done by now. But the fetishization of guns by a segment of our population and leaders means that NOTHING EVER CHANGES. IT’S DISGUSTING. But we don't know what happened with this shooting. I am for changes, but I'm waiting for the whole story to come out. Prayers and thoughts are pointless. There seems to be an indifference to mass casualties in the U.S. now and I doubt there would be changes if they were killed with something other than a gun. I don’t think the specifics make a damn bit of difference, honestly. What’s the common denominator among every mass shooting? Guns. They are everywhere and minimally controlled. That needs to change. Nothing is going to stop every mass shooting. There are always going to be outliers. And there are people who will find other ways to kill if they can’t get the guns they want. But guns are currently the easiest, fastest, most accessible way to kill and injure a lot of people and we can’t wait for a perfect solution. There never will be one. |
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Post by heather on Nov 5, 2017 21:40:44 GMT
Honestly? I’m becoming numb to these mass shootings. Which is disturbing.
Nothing is going to change.
But by all means, let’s have more useless moments of silence and more prayers and thoughts to victims.
See ya next week on the thread for the next mass shooting.
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Post by carhoch on Nov 5, 2017 21:43:07 GMT
Who are those prayer helping exactly not the people that got shot in church not the kids who lost their parents or parents that lots their kids. I was being sarcastic. I should have added an emoji. I did not realize I am sorry I jumped on you but I’m with you that it’s always the answer and that doesn’t help anybody and it just pissed me off . |
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Post by carhoch on Nov 5, 2017 21:43:48 GMT
Honestly? I’m becoming numb to these mass shootings. Which is disturbing. Nothing is going to change. But by all means, let’s have more useless moments of silence and more prayers and thoughts to victims. See ya next week on the thread for the next mass shooting.  |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Nov 5, 2017 21:47:03 GMT
Horrific
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Post by quiltz on Nov 5, 2017 21:47:12 GMT
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Post by txdancermom on Nov 5, 2017 21:49:05 GMT
the community is in my prayers
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Post by katybee on Nov 5, 2017 21:53:56 GMT
More blood on our leaders’ hands. No. One shooter did this, not our leaders. Don't turn this into something political please. It's sad enough already. SaveYeah....making it political is only ok if you're a republican. Or president... |
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Post by azredhead on Nov 5, 2017 21:58:43 GMT
Prayer brings people together and gives comfort it is different for everyone, people also want to send condolences to be supportive. This is just heart breaking and horrific!! My thoght and prayers are will all affected. You can change things but it also helps to comfort people and everyone does that differently.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 22:18:33 GMT
Prayer brings people together and gives comfort it is different for everyone, people also want to send condolences to be supportive. This is just heart breaking and horrific!! My thoght and prayers are will all affected. You can change things but it also helps to comfort people and everyone does that differently. I agree. Save |
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Post by jenis40 on Nov 5, 2017 22:20:34 GMT
More blood on our leaders’ hands. No. One shooter did this, not our leaders. Don't turn this into something political please. It's sad enough already. SaveNo. I’m tired of being told not to make it political. I’m going to politicize the hell out of this and every mass shooting until our leaders start offering something more than thoughts and prayers when innocent people are killed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 22:27:10 GMT
More blood on our leaders’ hands. To quote that old aphorism: "If nothing changes, nothing changes." This will never end. If we keep doing what we've always done ("thoughts and prayers and NOTHING ELSE") we'll keep getting what we've always got. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 22:38:25 GMT
We have created a culture where life itself has little worth, violence is deemed an acceptable means of conflict resolution, and an "if it feels good do it" mentality.
Until the fundamental values of human life are restored, nothing will change.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke
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Post by k1mint on Nov 5, 2017 22:48:46 GMT
Could not agree more this this!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 22:53:03 GMT
First and foremost, this is a horrific tradegy. My heart hurts for all the families affected by yet another senseless monster.
Imagine for a second if the news reported that the person shouted "Allah Akbar" when opening fire. Would those of you requesting a moment of silence still be saying that or would you be demanding your leader fleece and check all the Muslims in this country making sure they got the right ones?
We just saw it happen last week!
I totally get what people are saying. Something has to be done! Too many innocent lives are being sacrificed...for what? So "you" (general" can carry your loaded gun into Target?!?!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 22:54:45 GMT
Prayer brings people together and gives comfort it is different for everyone, people also want to send condolences to be supportive. This is just heart breaking and horrific!! My thoght and prayers are will all affected. You can change things but it also helps to comfort people and everyone does that differently. I’m curious how do your prayers comfort the dead? I know you mean well and maybe prayers will bring comfort to the family of the little 9 year old with terminal cancer that is asking for Christmas cards for his last Christmas. The reason prayers may bring them comfort is because they know everything that could be done was done for this little boy. But that’s not the case for this shooting, or the one at Walmart, or the one in Las Vegas or the one at Sandy Hook. Or any of the others that have happened. Not everything was done to prevent this one or any of the others that have happened and will continue to happen. Without action those prayers are nothing but empty words. Given a choice between “being in my thoughts and prayers” or actual action to stop or at least curtail these shootings I’m pretty sure the family members and friends of the shooting victims would chose action over prayers. As would the victims themselves. It seems this country may have hit another milestone. I read today’s mass shooting could be the most deadliest at a place of worship in the history of this country. Way to go USA! |
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Post by Merge on Nov 5, 2017 22:54:58 GMT
No. One shooter did this, not our leaders. Don't turn this into something political please. It's sad enough already. SaveYeah....making it political is only ok if you're a republican. Or president... Or if the shooter is a brown-skinned immigrant. We don't know yet (that I've seen) who the shooter was here, but our state and national leaders' responses will be completely different depending on the race and/or national origin of the shooter. That we know for sure. |
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Post by azredhead on Nov 5, 2017 22:59:29 GMT
Prayer brings people together and gives comfort it is different for everyone, people also want to send condolences to be supportive. This is just heart breaking and horrific!! My thoght and prayers are will all affected. You can change things but it also helps to comfort people and everyone does that differently. I’m curious how do your prayers comfort the dead? I know you mean well and maybe prayers will bring comfort to the family of the little 9 year old with terminal cancer that is asking for Christmas cards for his last Christmas. The reason prayers may bring them comfort is because they know everything that could be done was done for this little boy. But that’s not the case for this shooting, or the one at Walmart, or the one in Las Vegas or the one at Sandy Hook. Or any of the others that have happened. Not everything was done to prevent this one or any of the others that have happened and will continue to happen. Without action those prayers are nothing but empty words. Given a choice between “being in my thoughts and prayers” or actual action to stop or at least curtail these shootings I’m pretty sure the family members and friends of the shooting victims would chose action over prayers. As would the victims themselves. It seems this country may have hit another milestone. I read today’s mass shooting could be the most deadliest at a place of worship in the history of this country. Way to go USA! They don't but the do for the living.. We see it here all the time with those who lose loved ones. When my mom died earlier this year it was a great comfort and support to me the prayers and words of condonlonces meant a lot. In these cases some people just want to be able to do something to bring comfort. It doesn't fix the problems but it helps those surviving. That was my point only. |
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Post by Nanner on Nov 5, 2017 23:04:32 GMT
I don't even know what to say anymore. I just don't.
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Post by Merge on Nov 5, 2017 23:10:47 GMT
ABC News is reporting that witnesses say that the shooting lasted about 15 seconds. 15 seconds to kill or injure more than 50 people, with a weapon that was likely legally purchased right here in Texas. Freedom, y'all! Ain't it great?  |
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