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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 9, 2018 17:54:04 GMT
Does this help? Odd move could make Fusion GPS transcript public over GOP wishes www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/odd-move-could-make-fusion-gps-transcript-public-over-gop-wishes-1132384323765THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 1/8/18 Odd move could make Fusion GPS transcript public over GOP wishes Rachel Maddow looks back at the unusual Congressional trick used by then-Senator Mike Gravel to get the Pentagon Papers into the public record, and notes that Democrats may need to be even craftier to get on Republican resistance to publishing the transcript of Fusion GPS testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Duration: 15:10
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 18:21:23 GMT
Well Darn. Senator Diane Feinstein the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee just released the Fusion transcript. As they say “buckle up” and get ready for Grassley’s response. Holy cow. link
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 18:36:00 GMT
I’m going to let the Rachel Maddows and Greg Sargents of the media world plow through the transcript.
Greg Sargent...
“Steele concluded himself that the Russian meddling was a national security issue, Fusion GPS founder says.
They both agreed they were seeing a "crime in progress":”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 18:39:30 GMT
Maddow.....
“Steele believed a "human source from inside the Trump organization" had already gone to FBI: "a voluntary source, someone who was concerned with the same concerns we had" (pp.175-6)”
Now that’s interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 18:48:45 GMT
Natasha Bertrand....
“FUSION GPS statement on Feinstein's release of the Glenn Simpson interview transcript: "Fusion GPS commends Sen. Feinstein for her courage. The transcript of Glenn Simpson’s lengthy responses to the Senate Judiciary Committee’s questioning speaks for itself."
I’m surprised that she did it. Must be getting feisty in her old age.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 19:24:41 GMT
Jim Sciutto - CNN...
“#FusionGPS Transcript contradicts GOP argument #SteeleDossier was a political document. First, Steele went to FBI himself concerned Trump being blackmailed, fearing “national security threat” said Simpson 1/
2/When Steele met with FBI in Sept 2016, @fbi told him they had similar intelligence from “an internal Trump campaign source”, that is a “whistle-blower” inside Trump organization.
3/ #FusionGPS’s Simpson told Senate Judiciary that Steele reached out to FBI on his own and he alone selected content of the dossier, not DNC or Fusion
4/ Finally, it is extraordinary that @senfeinstein and Cmte Democrats released the transcript of Glenn Simpson’s account over objections of their GOP colleagues.
5/ One more note: to be clear, this is the account of Glenn Simpson re Steele, not Steele himself. However, testimony before Senate normally considered to be under oath.“
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 19:29:49 GMT
Kyle Cheney...
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Glenn Simpson's lawyer said someone has been killed as a result of the Steele dossier being published.”
This may explain why when the dossier was first released Christopher Steele went in to hiding for a time.
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Post by coffeetalk on Jan 9, 2018 22:44:04 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 9, 2018 23:09:20 GMT
I just read it—-HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 9, 2018 23:11:41 GMT
Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin The thing I am struck by as I sit here making Mac and Cheese for my kids is this horror:
The Republicans have known about this testimony since August. They know that the President of the United States is compromised. They know that the US election was thrown by the Russians. They know that Russia and Trump were engaged in criminal conspiracy to commit espionage.
AND THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT.”
And worse than that, they've done everything-- everything in their power-- to discredit the fine Glenn Simpson and the outstanding former MI6 officer Christopher Steele.
My bet is that the comment in Manafort's notes from the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting that say "active sponsors of the RNC." We don't know exactly what it means, but we know the RNC is implicated.
We're in DEEP, people. The GOP is corrupt to the core.
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Post by cycworker on Jan 9, 2018 23:13:26 GMT
Well done, Senator Feinstein.
Grassley's apoplectic, but another high ranking Republican has said they believe she did the right thing.
Is it a certainty that other Democrats on the committee knew she was going to release the transcript & they supported her?
Things are about to get really interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 0:04:03 GMT
Maddow..... “Steele believed a "human source from inside the Trump organization" had already gone to FBI: "a voluntary source, someone who was concerned with the same concerns we had" (pp.175-6)” Now that’s interesting. I just heard on MSNBC that the person "inside the Trump organization" was the Australian diplomat (I think he's a diplomat). So, that answers the question.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 10, 2018 0:11:07 GMT
Well done, Senator Feinstein. Grassley's apoplectic, but another high ranking Republican has said they believe she did the right thing.Is it a certainty that other Democrats on the committee knew she was going to release the transcript & they supported her? Things are about to get really interesting. Who was that?
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Post by coffeetalk on Jan 10, 2018 0:33:46 GMT
Well done, Senator Feinstein. Grassley's apoplectic, but another high ranking Republican has said they believe she did the right thing.Is it a certainty that other Democrats on the committee knew she was going to release the transcript & they supported her? Things are about to get really interesting. Who was that? Top Senate Republican John Cornyn praises Fusion GPS transcript releaseSaveSave
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Post by pierogi on Jan 10, 2018 2:54:58 GMT
So at least Cornyn isn’t compromised by the Kremlin. Good for him.
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Post by Merge on Jan 10, 2018 2:57:01 GMT
So at least Cornyn isn’t compromised by the Kremlin. Good for him. Pffft. Cornyn sees the writing on the wall and that riding Trump's coattails isn't going to be good for his next election.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 10, 2018 2:57:26 GMT
I'm so frustrated, I've been trying to read this off and on this afternoon, but the pages have suddenly started going black. I think it has to do with lack of memory on my device. Very annoying. Hope to be able to finish soon and see what everyone else thought.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 10, 2018 3:15:04 GMT
To those naysayers here that the dossier was a big fat fake—
Sen. Feinstein today: "to my knowledge, there has not been a single fact in that [dossier] that has been proven to be incorrect."
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Post by dewryce on Jan 10, 2018 3:17:29 GMT
To those naysayers here that the dossier was a big fat fake— Sen. Feinstein today: "to my knowledge, there has not been a single fact in that [dossier] that has been proven to be incorrect." It's also a matter of proving things correct though. She'd have more information and perhaps that's what she meant, but we should be specific I think.
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Post by peano on Jan 10, 2018 4:00:06 GMT
Maddow..... “Steele believed a "human source from inside the Trump organization" had already gone to FBI: "a voluntary source, someone who was concerned with the same concerns we had" (pp.175-6)” Now that’s interesting. I just heard on MSNBC that the person "inside the Trump organization" was the Australian diplomat (I think he's a diplomat). So, that answers the question. No, the speculation was that it might have been George Papadapolous, who drunkenly blabbed to the Australian diplomat.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 6:12:19 GMT
I just heard on MSNBC that the person "inside the Trump organization" was the Australian diplomat (I think he's a diplomat). So, that answers the question. No, the speculation was that it might have been George Papadapolous, who drunkenly blabbed to the Australian diplomat. Ooh, that makes more sense! Thanks!
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Jan 10, 2018 13:54:45 GMT
I just heard on MSNBC that the person "inside the Trump organization" was the Australian diplomat (I think he's a diplomat). So, that answers the question. No, the speculation was that it might have been George Papadapolous, who drunkenly blabbed to the Australian diplomat. But that's not Papadapolous going to the FBI - that's just him being an idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 14:02:49 GMT
great thread here:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 14:07:22 GMT
No wonder Chuckles didn't want the transcript released. He wasn't trying to find corruption in the government. He was trying to create the appearance of corruption in the corruption-fighters. Typical nazi tactic: smear your enemy with that of which you are guilty.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jan 10, 2018 14:16:03 GMT
I've read in multiple places that it's not Papadopolous. He wasn't flipped until Mueller arrested him. This is someone else who voluntary contacted the FBI during the campaign. If Simpson is correct that Trump Org has numerous ties to the Russian mob and that the information was readily known in Russia and easy to track, we can't even begin to guess what Mueller is going to expose. ETA: I kind of wonder if it's the implication in Manafort's notes of the compromise of the RNC and Dick Cheney's former press secretary that has Chuck and the rest of the Trump stooges in Congress so nervous. ETA2: I got to wondering who the unnamed press secretary is. Is it possibly Pete Williams? He was a Cheney minion for years and was his press sec when Cheney was Sec of Def. Pete Williams has done some interesting reporting, including one of the reports that the FBI investigation into the Trump campaign's contacts with Russia turned up nothing which report led Christopher Steele to stop working with the FBI because he knew that was a lie and it caused him to question what was happening within the FBI. Very, very interesting. Pete Williams claims no collusion ETA 3: I've now waded through it and the press secretary in question was Juliana Glover who was subsequently hired by Bill Browder. His testimony sure does paint Bill Browder in a bit of different light.
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Post by peano on Jan 10, 2018 15:27:18 GMT
No, the speculation was that it might have been George Papadapolous, who drunkenly blabbed to the Australian diplomat. But that's not Papadapolous going to the FBI - that's just him being an idiot. I know. I was merely trying to make the correction to BergdorfBlonde's assertion that it was the Australian diplomat (who is clearly not part of Trumpville). It seems we were watching the same show, where the speculation was made. I thought that theory seemed a little wonky.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 15:35:26 GMT
I heard someone yesterday ask why would Trump "collude" with Russia if he didn't want to win the election in the first place?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 15:52:47 GMT
No wonder Chuckles didn't want the transcript released. He wasn't trying to find corruption in the government. He was trying to create the appearance of corruption in the corruption-fighters. Typical nazi tactic: smear your enemy with that of which you are guilty.Hmmm...now where have I seen this tactic before? Hmmm... Donnie boy has been doing this for a very long time. #thetruthwillcomeout
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 16:23:48 GMT
So wait, Feinstein took it upon herself to release the transcript. HA, perfect political move since she's seeking re-election! And Grassley's acting like a nazi, like Trump. Hey, the left will do or say whatever works for the November wins!
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Post by rodeomom on Jan 10, 2018 16:34:47 GMT
So wait, Feinstein took it upon herself to release the transcript. HA, perfect political move since she's seeking re-election! And Grassley's acting like a nazi, like Trump. Hey, the left will do or say whatever works for the November wins! So what was Grassley's motivation for not releasing the transcript? (rhetorical question we all know the answer) Personally I believe she is a patriotic American. And it's going to take acts like this from other patriotic Americans to stop the destruction that is Trump.
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