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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 14:51:24 GMT
Imagine the headlines and TWEETS (my dog, the TWEETS!) if Conditt had been Muslim or an immigrant. Trump tweeted Conditt was dead. But not that he was a terrorist. I guess white anti-lgbt anti-abortion young men aren't terroristicky enough. Even when they terrify a community and kill innocent people. Victim Draylen Mason Victim Anthony House
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Post by not2peased on Mar 22, 2018 14:58:12 GMT
its infuriating
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Post by Nink on Mar 22, 2018 14:59:10 GMT
Makes my blood boil.
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 22, 2018 15:03:17 GMT
It makes my blood boil as well, but what makes my top want to blow off is that his supporters don’t see anything wrong in his silence and will continue to support him and thus propagate more hate.
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Post by withapea on Mar 22, 2018 15:14:49 GMT
I live in Austin. A large percentage of us know that if it wasn't a conservative, Christian, white boy, things would be playing out much differently. The terminology being used, the photos, the "he was going through some challenging things" BS.... I hope the victims and their families are inundated with the attention, help and compassion they so deserve.
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Post by coffeetalk on Mar 22, 2018 15:18:52 GMT
Sherrilyn Ifill Again, how the police chief talks about a young white man who terrorizes a city. Remember how they talked about innocent Black children like Trayvon, Tamir or young men like Freddy Gray. Police: Austin bomber left 25-minute confession on phone @cnn cnn.it/2IHrHJt "It is the outcry of a very challenged young man talking about challenges in his life that led him to this point," the interim chief said. "I know everybody is interested in a motive and understanding why. And we're never going to be able to put a (rationale) behind these acts," Manley told reporters Wednesday night.
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Post by casii on Mar 22, 2018 15:19:36 GMT
I live in Austin. A large percentage of us know that if it wasn't a conservative, Christian, white boy, things would be playing out much differently. The terminology being used, the photos, the "he was going through some challenging things" BS.... I hope the victims and their families are inundated with the attention, help and compassion they so deserve. I'm so sorry. I have a lot of family in the Austin area (well, Georgetown) and there's been a lot of worry & fear. He methodically planned, built, mailed bombs. That's not going through some challenging times. To quote one of my favorite Twitter guys, "Where was he radicalized?"
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Post by RosieKat on Mar 22, 2018 15:27:15 GMT
I posted on the original thread something I just learned. There is no federal charge for domestic terrorism. Were this guy still alive, he could be charged with terrorism because the nature of the acts created mass unrest, or however they describe it. But if he just was going around shooting people door to door, he wouldn't. Feds Should Call Terrorism What It IsSo while I definitely agree this guy was a terrorist, there may be legitimate reasons with the law the way it is right now that they don't want to "go there," at least not at first.
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Post by likescarrots on Mar 22, 2018 15:57:11 GMT
I posted on the original thread something I just learned. There is no federal charge for domestic terrorism. Were this guy still alive, he could be charged with terrorism because the nature of the acts created mass unrest, or however they describe it. But if he just was going around shooting people door to door, he wouldn't. Feds Should Call Terrorism What It IsSo while I definitely agree this guy was a terrorist, there may be legitimate reasons with the law the way it is right now that they don't want to "go there," at least not at first. you're missing the point. The police literally called this murderer a 'young man' talking about 'challenges in his life' as if the public should show some kind of sympathy. This sympathy is never afforded when talking about black/brown men, immigrants, Muslims, etc. Even when they are innocent victims of violence (see Treyvon, Tamir, etc., or our president calling Mexicans rapists...)
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Post by dewryce on Mar 22, 2018 15:57:14 GMT
I posted on the original thread something I just learned. There is no federal charge for domestic terrorism. Were this guy still alive, he could be charged with terrorism because the nature of the acts created mass unrest, or however they describe it. But if he just was going around shooting people door to door, he wouldn't. Feds Should Call Terrorism What It IsSo while I definitely agree this guy was a terrorist, there may be legitimate reasons with the law the way it is right now that they don't want to "go there," at least not at first. I see what you're saying about the technicality of the word, and how the law enforcement community uses it. But that has never stopped politicians and even reporters from using it before. And we know Trump probably doesn't know the difference. And even if he did, I can still guarantee he'd be using it anyway if the bomber wasn't white.
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Post by RosieKat on Mar 22, 2018 16:06:38 GMT
likescarrots, I'm not missing the point. I was just sharing one thing that I learned, whether I agree with it or not. I totally agree that this guy was a domestic terrorist. I happen to live in Austin, I know he was.
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Post by #notLauren on Mar 22, 2018 16:46:47 GMT
If the bomber was a Muslim or an illegal Immigrant, California or New York would be giving him sanctuary.
ETA...or tipping him off when the police were closing in.
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Post by busy on Mar 22, 2018 16:57:03 GMT
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Post by PLurker on Mar 22, 2018 17:08:52 GMT
when was the last time a non-white committed crimes such as this and was described in the same kind manner. Benefit of the doubt to the extreme.
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Post by Sarah*H on Mar 22, 2018 17:12:18 GMT
Remind me again why deplorable is the wrong word?
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Post by mom on Mar 22, 2018 17:14:26 GMT
I live in Austin. A large percentage of us know that if it wasn't a conservative, Christian, white boy, things would be playing out much differently. The terminology being used, the photos, the "he was going through some challenging things" BS.... I hope the victims and their families are inundated with the attention, help and compassion they so deserve. I'm so sorry. I have a lot of family in the Austin area (well, Georgetown) and there's been a lot of worry & fear. He methodically planned, built, mailed bombs. That's not going through some challenging times. To quote one of my favorite Twitter guys, "Where was he radicalized?" I agree. Challenging times are those days were its hard to get out of bed because you are sad. Building bombs and mailing them? No. That is not a challenging time. That is making the choice to be a killer. SaveSave
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Post by Merge on Mar 22, 2018 17:14:38 GMT
Remind me again why deplorable is the wrong word? It’s not. I wish Hillary had persisted with that description instead of backpedaling from it. Deplorable is absolutely correct.
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Post by #notLauren on Mar 22, 2018 17:16:20 GMT
Remind me again why deplorable is the wrong word? Remind me again why she lost? Hillary represents every bad stereotype about women. She's been whining, crying and blaming others for almost 18 months for her loss. She didn't "persist"; she's having a tantrum. And if not liking her or her childish tantrums makes me deplorable; hey I'll go with it. Just glad she lost.
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Post by not2peased on Mar 22, 2018 17:16:22 GMT
If the bomber was a Muslim or an illegal Immigrant, California or New York would be giving him sanctuary. ETA...or tipping him off when the police were closing in. I don't know what's worse-that you believe this, or that you are dumb enough to say it.
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Post by #notLauren on Mar 22, 2018 17:18:47 GMT
Or...the fact that it's the truth.
That's what's really frosting your cookies. You can't dispute the truth of it so you'll attack me personally.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 22, 2018 17:22:22 GMT
If the bomber was a Muslim or an illegal Immigrant, California or New York would be giving him sanctuary. ETA...or tipping him off when the police were closing in. I don't know what's worse-that you believe this, or that you are dumb enough to say it. Eh, I don't think she's dumb. She's stirring the pot. Typical.
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Post by #notLauren on Mar 22, 2018 17:23:08 GMT
For people like you, disagreement with what you consider the "correct" opinion is the same as stirring the pot.
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Post by missmiss on Mar 22, 2018 17:28:11 GMT
If the bomber was a Muslim or an illegal Immigrant, California or New York would be giving him sanctuary. ETA...or tipping him off when the police were closing in. You honestly believe that people in the government would tip off a KNOWN BOMBER or give a KNOWN BOMBER sanctuary? Just a a yes or no would suffice.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 22, 2018 17:28:27 GMT
If the bomber was a Muslim or an illegal Immigrant, California or New York would be giving him sanctuary. ETA...or tipping him off when the police were closing in. Right. Because that's exactly what we do with terrorists. San Bernardino and what happened to the Muslim shooters
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Post by lucyg on Mar 22, 2018 17:30:23 GMT
For people like you, disagreement with what you consider the "correct" opinion is the same as stirring the pot. Try disagreeing using an intelligent argument for once.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 17:33:28 GMT
If the bomber was a Muslim or an illegal Immigrant, California or New York would be giving him sanctuary. ETA...or tipping him off when the police were closing in. When you read a comment like this, there is only one thing to say and that is.. Liar liar pants on fire.... I get that people are unhappy with sanctuary cities/states. But before one bad mouth them one should at least get the facts right. Because comments like this do nothing but slam all law enforcement officials in these areas. They don’t deserve that from anyone, especially ill informed folks.
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Post by slkone on Mar 22, 2018 17:35:22 GMT
For people like you, disagreement with what you consider the "correct" opinion is the same as stirring the pot. Opinions aren't correct or factual when there is no evidence of what you are trying to assert. Your opinion isn't immune to criticism, Lauren. My opinion is that you are a deplorable troll.
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Post by #notLauren on Mar 22, 2018 17:37:36 GMT
If the bomber was a Muslim or an illegal Immigrant, California or New York would be giving him sanctuary. ETA...or tipping him off when the police were closing in. You honestly believe that people in the government would tip off a KNOWN BOMBER or give a KNOWN BOMBER sanctuary? Just a a yes or no would suffice. I watched the mayor of Oakland tip off all illegals that ICE was planning a raid. She didn't differentiate between violent illegals and non-violent illegals when she made the public tip-off on television. So yes, I believe people in the government would do that.
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Post by #notLauren on Mar 22, 2018 17:39:09 GMT
For people like you, disagreement with what you consider the "correct" opinion is the same as stirring the pot. Opinions aren't correct or factual when there is no evidence of what you are trying to assert. Your opinion isn't immune to criticism, Lauren. My opinion is that you are a deplorable troll. Am I supposed to be mad or sad about that? So another liberal feminist who believes that dancing around Washington with a vagina on her head promotes women's rights thinks I'm a deplorable troll. I think I'll get over it. No one's opinion is immune to criticism; including the ones expressed here and the facebook/blog of the Muslim whose posts they are cheering.
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Post by slkone on Mar 22, 2018 17:44:33 GMT
Opinions aren't correct or factual when there is no evidence of what you are trying to assert. Your opinion isn't immune to criticism, Lauren. My opinion is that you are a deplorable troll. Am I supposed to be mad or sad about that? So another liberal feminist who believes that dancing around Washington with a vagina on her head promotes women's rights thinks I'm a deplorable troll. I think I'll get over it.No one's opinion is immune to criticism; including the ones expressed here and the facebook/blog of the Muslim whose posts they are cheering. I really don't give two shits about what you think about me or my opinion or whose blog I follow or that you have internal misogyny or that you don't understand that the women who danced around with cat hats on their heads didn't just march for themselves, but for you, too. But I do have the opinion, and always will, Lauren, that you are a human shit stain.
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