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Post by 950nancy on Apr 13, 2018 19:02:17 GMT
. If he refuses they are going to have to send Federal Marshalls or the National Guard into the White House and drag him out in handcuffs. and if/when that happens, what does his Secret Service detail do? they're sworn to protect the President, aren't they? But they also have to uphold the Constitution, so... I think they could very gentle with him and protect his head when he gets in the vehicle. Wait, wasn't he the guy who said the police shouldn't be so nice when they put suspects in vehicles?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 19:18:26 GMT
Irony at its best. At White House briefing Sarah is giving the pitch “Comey has a credibility problem.
Today the NT Times “In 400+ days in office trump has told over 2,000 lies and misleading statements.
Just exactly who has this credibility problem?
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 13, 2018 19:24:53 GMT
What the ever loving fuck! Use the pardon power to send a message. Wouldn't you study the case if you were going to use the pardon ?? Again where are the republicans? That would require him to read, so no. Oh the irony of Trump calling Comey a liar and leaker when that is exactly what Libby did. FYI Libby wasn't the leaker that was Armitage. For those who weren't following this closely as well as giving some color on Bush's decision making about the pardon, this NYT article is long but interesting: www.nytimes.com/2013/10/13/magazine/the-final-insult-in-the-bush-cheney-marriage.html
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Post by imsirius on Apr 13, 2018 19:42:06 GMT
Let the meltdown commence
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Post by pierogi on Apr 13, 2018 19:43:14 GMT
Not true. Armitage also leaked the story to the NY Times, but Libby leaked to multiple papers who didn't use it until the Times did.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 13, 2018 20:08:49 GMT
Not true. Armitage also leaked the story to the NY Times, but Libby leaked to multiple papers who didn't use it until the Times did. Do you have a source? I don't recall anyone suggesting multiple papers. I know a different Times' reporter Miller testified in the grand jury that she thought Libby might be the source based on her notes, but she subsequently wrote a book saying her memory was wrong. I know several outlets named Rove as a leaker, but he was never prosecuted.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 20:13:56 GMT
trump..
“DOJ just issued the McCabe report - which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey - McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!”
Its been fact checked to death that trump has told misleading and faslehoods (lies) over 2,000 Times since he has been office. When is he going to be held accountable for the lies that he told?
I also wonder if his eyes were glazed and he was foaming at the mouth when pounded out the tweet above. I suspect that it was.
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Post by slkone on Apr 13, 2018 20:14:43 GMT
Regarding Scooter - Cheney begged GWB to pardon him. He hounded him so much that it permanently damaged their relationship. GWB refused. GWB was a pretty awful president, but he had more integrity in his little right toe's nail than DT has. He's deflecting hard, but there's nothing that will detract from Comey's night in the spotlight tonight.
Edited: I thought the interview was airing tonight, but I guess it's Sunday?
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 13, 2018 20:21:19 GMT
and if/when that happens, what does his Secret Service detail do? they're sworn to protect the President, aren't they? But they also have to uphold the Constitution, so... I think they could very gentle with him and protect his head when he gets in the vehicle. Wait, wasn't he the guy who said the police shouldn't be so nice when they put suspects in vehicles? Irony at its best. At White House briefing Sarah is giving the pitch “Comey has a credibility problem. Today the NT Times “ In 400+ days in office trump has told over 2,000 lies and misleading statements.Just exactly who has this credibility problem? ^^^ why doesn't some reporter in that press conference stand up and ask about that in very blunt, plain language?!? ...just to see her think and fumble while she formulates her answer/non-answer. lol
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Post by whitehat on Apr 13, 2018 20:24:25 GMT
I also wonder if his eyes were glazed and he was foaming at the mouth when pounded out the tweet above. I suspect that it was. With any luck, he'll stroke out soon.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 13, 2018 20:40:07 GMT
For some reason it won't let me quote Fred's post about trump crashing the charity event. But... This, right here is why we are in the mess we are in. Most people don't have the spine to call out users in public. They just sit and put up with it because god forbid someone confronts and exposes the asshole. Whoever was running that event should have escorted him off the stage . Period. They shit on Fisher who was donating and does care. If Trump refused to leave the stage the organizer should have told the audience exactly what was going on, that trump who has not donated a dime is forcing one of our biggest supporters/doners out of his seat. I have never understood people who allow themselves into being cowed into NOT exposing these shenanigans. He has done shit like this for DECADES in NY and I’ve akways wondered why he gets away with it. He has done so many despicable things, he is vile. I still can not understand why people put up with it.
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Post by pierogi on Apr 13, 2018 20:40:22 GMT
Not true. Armitage also leaked the story to the NY Times, but Libby leaked to multiple papers who didn't use it until the Times did. Do you have a source? I don't recall anyone suggesting multiple papers. I know a different Times' reporter Miller testified in the grand jury that she thought Libby might be the source based on her notes, but she subsequently wrote a book saying her memory was wrong. I know several outlets named Rove as a leaker, but he was never prosecuted. Yes, of course. Washington PostCNNRobert Novak always maintained there were three sources for his article, always understood to be Armitage, Rove and Libby. The other news sources Libby leaked to: Bob Woodward of WaPo, Cooper of Time, and Tim Russert and of course, Judith Miller, who went to jail for refusing to disclose her conversations with Libby. Miller then conveniently developed memory problems about it later, but the damage was done.
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Post by pierogi on Apr 13, 2018 20:43:05 GMT
Regarding Scooter - Cheney begged GWB to pardon him. He hounded him so much that it permanently damaged their relationship. GWB refused. GWB was a pretty awful president, but he had more integrity in his little right toe's nail than DT has. He's deflecting hard, but there's nothing that will detract from Comey's night in the spotlight tonight. I remember that. It was the only time during his presidency that I was impressed with GWB. (That and when he dodged the shoe.) Cheney pressured him relentlessly, but he held his ground. He knew it would be another stain on his legacy, and he was right.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 13, 2018 20:50:56 GMT
Regarding Scooter - Cheney begged GWB to pardon him. He hounded him so much that it permanently damaged their relationship. GWB refused. GWB was a pretty awful president, but he had more integrity in his little right toe's nail than DT has. He's deflecting hard, but there's nothing that will detract from Comey's night in the spotlight tonight. I remember that. It was the only time during his presidency that I was impressed with GWB. (That and when he dodged the shoe.) Cheney pressured him relentlessly, but he held his ground. He knew it would be another stain on his legacy, and he was right. W isn't looking so bad right now!
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 13, 2018 21:05:44 GMT
For some reason it won't let me quote Fred's post about trump crashing the charity event. But... This, right here is why we are in the mess we are in. Most people don't have the spine to call out users in public. They just sit and put up with it because god forbid someone confronts and exposes the asshole. Whoever was running that event should have escorted him off the stage . Period. They shit on Fisher who was donating and does care. If Trump refused to leave the stage the organizer should have told the audience exactly what was going on, that trump who has not donated a dime is forcing one of our biggest supporters/doners out of his seat. I have never understood people who allow themselves into being cowed into NOT exposing these shenanigans. He has done shit like this for DECADES in NY and I’ve akways wondered why he gets away with it. He has done so many despicable things, he is vile. I still can not understand why people put up with it. Probably because Trump would have whoever blacklisted. He’s a gigantic asshole who is extremely well connected.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 13, 2018 22:02:02 GMT
For some reason it won't let me quote Fred's post about trump crashing the charity event. But... This, right here is why we are in the mess we are in. Most people don't have the spine to call out users in public. They just sit and put up with it because god forbid someone confronts and exposes the asshole. Whoever was running that event should have escorted him off the stage . Period. They shit on Fisher who was donating and does care. If Trump refused to leave the stage the organizer should have told the audience exactly what was going on, that trump who has not donated a dime is forcing one of our biggest supporters/doners out of his seat. I have never understood people who allow themselves into being cowed into NOT exposing these shenanigans. He has done shit like this for DECADES in NY and I’ve akways wondered why he gets away with it. He has done so many despicable things, he is vile. I still can not understand why people put up with it. This is what I just don't understand. Twenty years ago way before trump got onto politics I used to watch his hijinks. He was a con and a criminal back when he was laundering money through his casino in Atlantic City and the properties he was buying and selling. He went bankrupt regularly, he wouldn't pay contractors who did work for him, US banks wouldn't loan him money any more because he was a bad risk and known for not paying his debts, he screwed around on all of his wives and was involved in sexual escapades with under aged girls an on and on and on. All you had to do was watch the news or read a newspaper this is all common knowledge. What the hell is wrong with the people who voted for and support this creep? The Republicans had a lot of other choices for their candidate but they choose him. Any of the other candidates would have been a better choice. It just boggles the mind and there is something deeply disturbing about those people.
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Post by slkone on Apr 13, 2018 22:11:32 GMT
Regarding Scooter - Cheney begged GWB to pardon him. He hounded him so much that it permanently damaged their relationship. GWB refused. GWB was a pretty awful president, but he had more integrity in his little right toe's nail than DT has. He's deflecting hard, but there's nothing that will detract from Comey's night in the spotlight tonight. I remember that. It was the only time during his presidency that I was impressed with GWB. (That and when he dodged the shoe.)Cheney pressured him relentlessly, but he held his ground. He knew it would be another stain on his legacy, and he was right. Heh, that's right! The shoe dodge was kind of impressive. Great reflexes!
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 13, 2018 22:14:54 GMT
Do you have a source? I don't recall anyone suggesting multiple papers. I know a different Times' reporter Miller testified in the grand jury that she thought Libby might be the source based on her notes, but she subsequently wrote a book saying her memory was wrong. I know several outlets named Rove as a leaker, but he was never prosecuted. Yes, of course. Washington PostCNNRobert Novak always maintained there were three sources for his article, always understood to be Armitage, Rove and Libby. The other news sources Libby leaked to: Bob Woodward of WaPo, Cooper of Time, and Tim Russert and of course, Judith Miller, who went to jail for refusing to disclose her conversations with Libby. Miller then conveniently developed memory problems about it later, but the damage was done. The Washing Post story shares the same information I remembered, that the leaker to Novak was Armitage (the senior official unnamed in that article but widely known now as he's discussed it at length) and it was confirmed by Rove and Harlow - not Libby. The CNN article just talks about the information Bush authorized released (there are definitely different schools of thoughts on whether information authorized is considered leaked which seems to vary depending on who's doing the releasing). I mentioned Miller - who knows if her memory is right now or then. I suppose we should have clarified what story was being leaked to multiple sources when we started the discussion. I was assuming we were talking about Plume's identity. If we were talking about the information Bush authorized to refute Wilson - everyone and their brother was talking to everyone about that to anyone who would listen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 0:42:37 GMT
Kaitlain Collins....
“Press pool in Lima with Vice President Pence is rushing back to the hotel unexpectedly. White House is telling the press pool that’s here in Washington to gather.”
Its Friday night and people are talking about Cohan and Comey. My guess this possible announcement has to do with Syria and an effort to change the subject.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 14, 2018 1:22:52 GMT
Trump authorizes military strikes in SyriaBY JORDAN FABIAN - 04/13/18 08:51 PM EDT President Trump announced Friday he has ordered “precision strikes” against Syria in response to an apparent chemical weapons attack by the forces of Syrian leader Bashar Assad. Speaking at the White House, Trump said the operation was launched in coordination with the armed forces of France and the United Kingdom. The strikes are targeting sites related to Syria’s chemical weapons program. More at link: thehill.com/homenews/administration/383127-trump-to-address-nation-on-syria
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 12:19:43 GMT
As Cohen has vehemently denied being in Prague on that date, even as far as posting a copy of his passport on twitter to try and prove he wasn't, there is a strong possibility that there was another passport among the collection of documents in that raid by the FBI don't you think? Others in this crazy saga have had more than one passport so why not him eh?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 14, 2018 12:57:42 GMT
As Cohen has vehemently denied being in Prague on that date, even as far as posting a copy of his passport on twitter to try and prove he wasn't, there is a strong possibility that there was another passport among the collection of documents in that raid by the FBI don't you think? Others in this crazy saga have had more than one passport so why not him eh? Apparently he entered Prague via Germany, and it was reported that route does not require a passport stamp.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 13:04:16 GMT
As Cohen has vehemently denied being in Prague on that date, even as far as posting a copy of his passport on twitter to try and prove he wasn't, there is a strong possibility that there was another passport among the collection of documents in that raid by the FBI don't you think? Others in this crazy saga have had more than one passport so why not him eh? Apparently he entered Prague via Germany, and it was reported that route does not require a passport stamp. Yes, I realize that but he's argument is that he's never visited the city.....except maybe with a different passport
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 13:06:05 GMT
Apparently he entered Prague via Germany, and it was reported that route does not require a passport stamp. Yes, I realize that but he's argument is that he's never visited the city.....except maybe with a different passport which is a possibility given that the others have had multiple passposts
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