Mystie
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Post by Mystie on Apr 30, 2018 1:55:28 GMT
THe Hill... “UK, France, Germany join together to support Iran deal ahead of Trump's deadline to withdraw hill.cm/leqsWGD” My guess is if you sat tiny hands down and asked him what the Iran deal specifically did and what specifically he has against it, point by point, you would get a blank stare. I would bet five figures on it.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 30, 2018 2:14:23 GMT
The full article lays out this other POSSIBILITY quite clearly. And your dislike of the source doesn't mean it's wrong or that "your" possibility is the only correct possibility. From the article... “Comey reveals that the first time he ever met with Trump, he met with him one-on-one, in private about the ongoing Russia investigation, even dismissing other aides and officials, to assure him he was not under investigation.” That is not true. I mean read Comey’s statement in the article. It was clear why Comey met with trump in private. The “pee pee” tape! Not to tell him he was not under investigation. From the article... “Knowing that, it becomes less surprising that Trump might have thought that’s how the two of them were doing business. That doesn’t mean Trump’s behavior was right. He should have known that meeting privately with Comey on these matters as President-elect was different than meeting with him as President. The propriety and power balance changed after he officially became Comey’s boss. But it fits with what we know of the two men that Comey might make that distinction but Trump wouldn’t.” That might be a valid point except for one minor detail. His staff would know who he is meeting with and even the misfits he surrounds himself with would have told him why he shouldn’t meet privately with the Director of the FBI. And trump being trump doesn’t listen to anyone but himself. What your writer is trying to do is make excuses for trump. On one had he shouldn't have done it but on the other hand it’s all Comey’s fault that trump thought it was ok because the two men were going to have a “New York City” relationship. Based on one private meeting to talk about the “pee pee tape”. Not to forget that a big part of the issue with trump wanting to be alone with Comey was to ask him to lay off Flynn, and demand his loyalty. And trumps meetings with Comey were construed as obstruction of justice, and everyone on the planet knows trump is the biggest liar!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 30, 2018 2:16:21 GMT
The full article lays out this other POSSIBILITY quite clearly. And your dislike of the source doesn't mean it's wrong or that "your" possibility is the only correct possibility. From the article... “Comey reveals that the first time he ever met with Trump, he met with him one-on-one, in private about the ongoing Russia investigation, even dismissing other aides and officials, to assure him he was not under investigation.” That is not true. I mean read Comey’s statement in the article. It was clear why Comey met with trump in private. The “pee pee” tape! Not to tell him he was not under investigation. From the article... “Knowing that, it becomes less surprising that Trump might have thought that’s how the two of them were doing business. That doesn’t mean Trump’s behavior was right. He should have known that meeting privately with Comey on these matters as President-elect was different than meeting with him as President. The propriety and power balance changed after he officially became Comey’s boss. But it fits with what we know of the two men that Comey might make that distinction but Trump wouldn’t.” That might be a valid point except for one minor detail. His staff would know who he is meeting with and even the misfits he surrounds himself with would have told him why he shouldn’t meet privately with the Director of the FBI. And trump being trump doesn’t listen to anyone but himself. What your writer is trying to do is make excuses for trump. On one had he shouldn't have done it but on the other hand it’s all Comey’s fault that trump thought it was ok because the two men were going to have a “New York City” relationship. Based on one private meeting to talk about the “pee pee tape”. Let her have her opinion, others can see that the facts don’t support that same opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 2:30:50 GMT
Kyle Griffin....
“Interior Dept. officials will not restore federal protections for Yellowstone-area grizzly bears, despite a court ruling that questioned the government's rationale for turning grizzly management over to states planning public hunts of the bears.”
Once a species is gone it’s gone. One of the worst reasons to kill off a species is so a bunch of little boys can feel like MEN by killing a grizzly bear.
Disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 2:47:20 GMT
The full article lays out this other POSSIBILITY quite clearly. And your dislike of the source doesn't mean it's wrong or that "your" possibility is the only correct possibility. From the article... “Comey reveals that the first time he ever met with Trump, he met with him one-on-one, in private about the ongoing Russia investigation, even dismissing other aides and officials, to assure him he was not under investigation.” That is not true. I mean read Comey’s statement in the article. It was clear why Comey met with trump in private. The “pee pee” tape! Not to tell him he was not under investigation. From the article... “Knowing that, it becomes less surprising that Trump might have thought that’s how the two of them were doing business. That doesn’t mean Trump’s behavior was right. He should have known that meeting privately with Comey on these matters as President-elect was different than meeting with him as President. The propriety and power balance changed after he officially became Comey’s boss. But it fits with what we know of the two men that Comey might make that distinction but Trump wouldn’t.” That might be a valid point except for one minor detail. His staff would know who he is meeting with and even the misfits he surrounds himself with would have told him why he shouldn’t meet privately with the Director of the FBI. And trump being trump doesn’t listen to anyone but himself. What your writer is trying to do is make excuses for trump. On one had he shouldn't have done it but on the other hand it’s all Comey’s fault that trump thought it was ok because the two men were going to have a “New York City” relationship. Based on one private meeting to talk about the “pee pee tape”. I'm open to other possibilities. In other words I believe you could be right or I could be. You have one narrative that you won't stray from. Got it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 3:34:35 GMT
From the article... “Comey reveals that the first time he ever met with Trump, he met with him one-on-one, in private about the ongoing Russia investigation, even dismissing other aides and officials, to assure him he was not under investigation.” That is not true. I mean read Comey’s statement in the article. It was clear why Comey met with trump in private. The “pee pee” tape! Not to tell him he was not under investigation. From the article... “Knowing that, it becomes less surprising that Trump might have thought that’s how the two of them were doing business. That doesn’t mean Trump’s behavior was right. He should have known that meeting privately with Comey on these matters as President-elect was different than meeting with him as President. The propriety and power balance changed after he officially became Comey’s boss. But it fits with what we know of the two men that Comey might make that distinction but Trump wouldn’t.” That might be a valid point except for one minor detail. His staff would know who he is meeting with and even the misfits he surrounds himself with would have told him why he shouldn’t meet privately with the Director of the FBI. And trump being trump doesn’t listen to anyone but himself. What your writer is trying to do is make excuses for trump. On one had he shouldn't have done it but on the other hand it’s all Comey’s fault that trump thought it was ok because the two men were going to have a “New York City” relationship. Based on one private meeting to talk about the “pee pee tape”. I'm open to other possibilities. In other words I believe you could be right or I could be. You have one narrative that you won't stray from. Got it. You are falling into the trap the writer set. The “other possibility” is way to blame everyone but trump for his actions. In this case it’s all Comey’s fault. Its clear what the writer’s goal is when she added this comment.. “Further, we all know that Comey’s self-conception is as the last Boy Scout in Washington. It’s a tale that works for him, and he is often given unquestioning credit for honesty and impeccable morals in all his professional conduct. Frankly, I’m inclined to trust him more than Trump. But in their desire to nail Trump, many have assumed Comey has no motivations of his own other than truth, justice, and the American way.” She says “Frankly, I’m inclined to trust him more than trump.” But then there is the but and it’s a big but. “ But in their desire to nail Trump, many have assumed Comey has no motivations of his own other than truth, justice, and the American way.” People are not out “to get” trump. What they are trying to do is hold him accountable for his actions. It’s unfortunate the right is protecting trump instead expressing any interest in finding the truth. It’s even more unfortunate that too many folks fall for the bogus suggestions the right throws out there. That they are so gullible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 3:40:01 GMT
Here's a handy guide
Attacks on their looks: “bleeding badly from a facelift” “fat pig” "dog" "Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that?" --DJT
NOT an attack on her looks: "Sarah Sanders burns facts and uses the ashes to create her perfect smokey eyes.” --Michelle Wolf
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 30, 2018 3:56:06 GMT
Once a species is gone it’s gone. One of the worst reasons to kill of a species is so a bunch of little boys can feel like MEN by killing a grizzly bear. And who will be leading the pack? DonJr and Eric, the big game hunters!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 4:11:44 GMT
I'm open to other possibilities. In other words I believe you could be right or I could be. You have one narrative that you won't stray from. Got it. You are falling into the trap the writer set. The “other possibility” is way to blame everyone but trump for his actions. In this case it’s all Comey’s fault. No. She clearly blames Trump. What she did was lay out where he's coming from and says its completely wrong, but these are the sequence of events that explain his absolutely wrong thinking. Just the politicians alone, calling for his impeachment based on nothing more tangible than pure hatred shows that's beyond an absurd statement. Throw in those that want him dead and it reaches a delusional level statement. Either you've forgotten all of that in the moment, are living under a rock, or will say any moronically absurd thing to see what will stick in order to "avoid" EVER being wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 4:56:00 GMT
Nate Silver...
“Hopefully they can use their investigative skills to solve the mystery of why someone they hired as a comedian told jokes.”
Much ado about nothing. Really.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 5:25:09 GMT
You are falling into the trap the writer set. The “other possibility” is way to blame everyone but trump for his actions. In this case it’s all Comey’s fault. No. She clearly blames Trump. What she did was lay out where he's coming from and says its completely wrong, but these are the sequence of events that explain his absolutely wrong thinking. Just the politicians alone, calling for his impeachment based on nothing more tangible than pure hatred shows that's beyond an absurd statement. Throw in those that want him dead and it reaches a delusional level statement. Either you've forgotten all of that in the moment, are living under a rock, or will say any moronically absurd thing to see what will stick in order to "avoid" EVER being wrong. Pure hatred. Really? Man they really got you brainwashed haven't they. trump claims he has done nothing wrong. Ok, then why is he doing his best to undermine the investigations? Why doesn’t he just say “I have not committed any crimes and I welcome these investigations because they will prove that.”? The fastest way to shut down his critics and haters is to say something like that. So why doesn’t he? trump’s very words and actions lead you to believe he is hiding something. As trump the businessman I couldn’t care less what he is hiding. But he’s president and I, as all other Americans, have a right to know what he is hiding. And it has nothing to do with hatred.
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DDrumpf
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Yes. I really said it!
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Post by DDrumpf on Apr 30, 2018 6:28:02 GMT
Ok, then why is he doing his best to undermine the investigations? I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 6:36:33 GMT
Ok, then why is he doing his best to undermine the investigations? I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other. And you know this how? Care to share?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 6:37:19 GMT
Newsweek...
“Mike Pompeo says the Trump administration "has its eyes wide open" when it comes to North Korea bit.ly/2raBlw6”
Yea right.
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DDrumpf
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Yes. I really said it!
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Post by DDrumpf on Apr 30, 2018 6:49:22 GMT
I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other. And you know this how? Care to share? 1) Well I would know if anyone knows! 2) my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault It has been determined that there is no collusion and by virtually everybody. So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I mean certainly we'll see what happens -- when they have no collusion and nobody's found any collusion at any level
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 30, 2018 10:31:33 GMT
Ok, then why is he doing his best to undermine the investigations? I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other. Thanks for the laugh.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 30, 2018 10:46:56 GMT
I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other. Thanks for the laugh. Trolls can be quite funny!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 30, 2018 11:56:15 GMT
Just look at the signature!
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 30, 2018 15:53:25 GMT
Ok, then why is he doing his best to undermine the investigations? I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other. Well, we have a new troll. It was over there on the kitchen cabinet thread throwing political shit around where it doesn't belong.
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Post by lucyg on Apr 30, 2018 15:58:16 GMT
I for one welcome our new troll. Those Trump quotations need to be repeated over and over again. Since some people seem to forget. Or ignore.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 20:00:01 GMT
Richard Stengel...
“Bolton citing the "Libya model" on Fox as a template for North Korea. Hmm, not so sure about that. For Kim, the "Libya model" is, if I give up my nukes, I'm going to be hunted down and killed in a dusty street like Gaddafi.”
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 20:51:50 GMT
ABC News....
“Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says Israel has obtained thousands of Iranian documents showing what he says is a continuing push to develop nuclear weapons. abcn.ws/2ra394z”
I would look at this suspiciously. It’s no secret Netanyahu has been itching to get in a war with Iran. What I don’t want to see is Netanyahu dragging the United States into a war with Iran because it would end up US & Israel vs Iran and Russia.
With President Obama that wasn’t likely to happen but with trump/Boulton it could very well happen.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 30, 2018 20:58:53 GMT
ABC News.... “Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says Israel has obtained thousands of Iranian documents showing what he says is a continuing push to develop nuclear weapons. abcn.ws/2ra394z” I would look at this suspiciously. It’s no secret Netanyahu has been itching to get in a war with Iran. What I don’t want to see is Netanyahu dragging the United States into a war with Iran because it would end up US & Israel vs Iran and Russia. With President Obama that wasn’t likely to happen but with trump/Boulton it could very well happen. And it ain't gonna be pretty!
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Post by pierogi on Apr 30, 2018 21:03:23 GMT
A war with Iran would be a proxy hot war with Russia. Nobody would win. Just an endless quagmire of blood and treasure lost. Would Trump's kids be fighting?
I think we know the answer to that.
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Pearl Clutcher
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Post by ellen on Apr 30, 2018 21:15:41 GMT
They walk around blinking at each other.
How did I ever miss that one?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 30, 2018 21:28:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 22:05:40 GMT
linkFrom NBC News.... “Kelly thinks he's saving U.S. from disaster, calls Trump 'idiot,' say White House staffers“From the article.... “Some current and former officials said they expect Kelly to leave by July, and that Trump and Kelly seem to have tired of each other.” “WASHINGTON — White House chief of staff John Kelly has eroded morale in the West Wing in recent months with comments to aides that include insulting the president's intelligence and casting himself as the savior of the country, according to eight current and former White House officials. The officials said Kelly portrays himself to Trump administration aides as the lone bulwark against catastrophe, curbing the erratic urges of a president who has a questionable grasp on policy issues and the functions of government. He has referred to Trump as "an idiot" multiple times to underscore his point, according to four officials who say they've witnessed the comments. Kelly called the allegations "total BS." "I spend more time with the president than anyone else and we have an incredibly candid and strong relationship," said Kelly in a statement. "He always knows where I stand and he and I both know this story is total BS. I am committed to the president, his agenda, and our country. This is another pathetic attempt to smear people close to President Trump and distract from the administration’s many successes." Three White House spokespeople said they don't believe it's accurate that Kelly called the president an "idiot," adding that none of them has ever heard him do that or otherwise use that word. Officials said Kelly's public image as a retired four-star general instilling discipline on a chaotic White House and an impulsive president belies what they describe as the undisciplined and indiscreet approach he's employed as chief of staff. The private manner aides describe may shed new light on why Kelly now finds himself — just nine months into the job — grappling with diminished influence and a drumbeat of questions about how long he'll remain at the White House.” This one of the reasons I want trump gone. This stupid petty stuff that surrounds him and does nothing but erodes the prestige of the office of President.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 30, 2018 22:11:42 GMT
Breaking news...John Kelly on trump “He's an idiot”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 30, 2018 23:17:52 GMT
And the plot thickens............... Exclusive: Pence's doctor alerted WH aides about Ronny Jackson concerns last fallCNN Digital Expansion DC Manu Raju By Manu Raju, Senior Congressional Correspondent Updated 6:50 PM ET, Mon April 30, 2018 Washington (CNN)Vice President Mike Pence's physician privately raised alarms within the White House last fall that President Donald Trump's doctor may have violated federal privacy protections for a key patient -- Pence's wife, Karen -- and intimidated the vice president's doctor during angry confrontations over the episode. The previously unreported incident is the first sign that serious concerns about Ronny Jackson's conduct had reached the highest levels of the White House as far back as September -- months before White House aides furiously defended Jackson's professionalism, insisted he had been thoroughly vetted and argued allegations of misconduct amounted to unsubstantiated rumors. The episode -- detailed in three memos by Pence's physician -- is also the first documentation that has surfaced involving a specific allegation of medical misconduct by Jackson. It adds to a series of significant allegations leveled by unidentified current and former colleagues, including that he casually dispensed prescription drugs. ** Current and former coworkers have accused Jackson of abusive behavior and professional misconduct in interviews with Democratic staff on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, which sources briefed on the matter say has investigated those episodes as well as the one involving Karen Pence. The Senate Armed Services Committee, which is considering Jackson's promotion in the Navy to become a two-star admiral, is aware of the incidents, according to sources familiar with the matter. The detailed memos provide a vivid account of both the incident and Jackson's alleged actions afterwards. ** On September 11, 2017, Pence's physician briefed Ayers about "this breach of her patient information" under the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, or HIPAA, by disclosing information to various parties. The physician was later directed by Mrs. Pence to tell Ayers to relay the information to Kelly, after the second lady expressed concerns about the potential her medical information was disclosed.More at link: www.cnn.com/2018/04/30/politics/karen-pence-doctor-privacy-ronny-jackson/index.html
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 30, 2018 23:28:31 GMT
"At a rally in Michigan on Saturday, Trump said he had dirt on Tester that he wasn’t yet sharing, calling him a “disgrace.” “Tester started throwing out things that he’s heard. Well I know things about Tester that I could say, too,” Trump threatened. “And if I said them, he’d never be elected again.”" thehill.com/homenews/administration/385577-trump-targets-tester-over-open-bordersReal classy and better yet presidential .. NOT!
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