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Post by darkangel090260 on Sept 19, 2014 1:09:07 GMT
Agree 1,000% after dealing with MIL I can cook for just about anyone. But I have given up on hosting thing or throwing party's because of everyones so call diets ..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 1:09:30 GMT
And then there are the people who are so delicate and sensitive they can't eat much of anything. But they go to restaurants and make a big scene, wanting to know every bit of ingredients, etc. etc. And they remind everyone constantly of how allergic and sensitive they are. I say eat how you need to and STFU. This made me LOL!
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 19, 2014 1:24:59 GMT
One thing this thread has done is make me want to bake. I think tomorrow I am going to have to spend a bit of time deciding on just the right recipe to make. But at first thought, it will likely be this: brownie pudding or maybe mini brownie piesAnd, y'all guess what?? My kid is at his dad's this weekend which means not only am I not going to give any away, but I also won't have to share.
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Post by grinningcat on Sept 19, 2014 12:42:02 GMT
It is frustrating, particularly because so many are on the anti-gluten/dairy/egg thing as a trend, not for actual health issues. Thankfully I have a good set of friends who aren't on that boat and just eat everything moderately. I will bake for my gluten-free friends when they ask, but they aren't assholes about being gluten-free/vegan... which I am grateful for because I seem to run into more GF assholes these days. It's not a trend for many people and they don't have to justify their dietary needs to you. You are the asshole for not realizing how sick it makes people who have gluten sensitivities especially those who have autoimmune diseases that flare when gluten, dairy, egg, soy are consumed. Trust me, I would love to eat conventional pizza and pasta but I would suffer for it. My niece requested pumpkin poke cake for her birthday and I am making it - even though I won't eat it. Again (and I've said this twice already in this thread alone), if you are eating GF or whatever because of allergies, you are not an asshole. That's legitimate and I'll actually offer to bake for you in a way that you can eat it. I have a few GF books specifically for my friends who are GF. I'm not talking about those with actual medical issues due to gluten when I refer to assholes. I refer to the ones who have NO medical reason to be GF... they are the ones who are GF because it's the latest fad diet to lose weight and it sounds trendy to say they are GF or whatever food they are eliminating for "health". And that's not why they are doing it, they are doing it for the status, for the trend, so they look cool. And those are the assholes I am referring to. I deal with too many of them. They are the ones who do yoga because it's trendy, who go low carb because it's trendy, who do something because it's suddenly trendy... that sort of stuff. Not because of the benefit but because of the status it gives them. Those people drive me crazy and I've had to deal with more than enough of them. So once again, people with ACTUAL medical reasons to avoid gluten are NOT assholes and I'll gladly accommodate for you. People who are GF because it looks cool (and that also means they won't shut up about the "evils" of gluten) are sometimes (most of the time) assholes. Clear as mud?
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Post by lollapealooza on Sept 19, 2014 12:58:05 GMT
And then there is the matter of cross contamination...but if you are gluten sensitive, you already know all about that. Hahaha.
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Post by redayh on Sept 19, 2014 14:01:46 GMT
I have this issue with my book club (each host cooks or provides dinner). Those jokers are either allergice to, or just plain don't eat, just about everything. One of them says she is allergic to beef. Beef, for heavens sake. Most of the rest don't eat pork. Some don't eat gluten (for what reason I do not know, they were eating it just fine when I first met them ten years ago). But the most hilarious thing about it is that they all serve sugary drinks at all of their book clubs. I'm the only one that serves water and a sugar free selection, in addition to the sugary (read lemonade, tea and/or boozey frozen cocktail)drinks. And when I said the water/sugar free was for anyone cutting back on the sugar, they all looked confused.
It baffles me.
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Post by sharlag on Sept 19, 2014 14:18:38 GMT
they are the ones who are GF because it's the latest fad diet to lose weight and it sounds trendy to say they are GF or whatever food they are eliminating for "health". And that's not why they are doing it, they are doing it for the status, for the trend, so they look cool. And those are the assholes I am referring to. I deal with too many of them. They are the ones who do yoga because it's trendy, who go low carb because it's trendy, who do something because it's suddenly trendy... that sort of stuff. Not because of the benefit but because of the status it gives them. Those people drive me crazy and I've had to deal with more than enough of them. So once again, people with ACTUAL medical reasons to avoid gluten are NOT assholes and I'll gladly accommodate for you. People who are GF because it looks cool (and that also means they won't shut up about the "evils" of gluten) are sometimes (most of the time) assholes. Clear as mud? I'm grateful that I the people I interact with aren't 'trendy'. They might be annoying for other reasons, but trendiness isn't an issue.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 19, 2014 14:19:29 GMT
I have this issue with my book club (each host cooks or provides dinner). Those jokers are either allergice to, or just plain don't eat, just about everything. One of them says she is allergic to beef. Beef, for heavens sake. Most of the rest don't eat pork. Some don't eat gluten (for what reason I do not know, they were eating it just fine when I first met them ten years ago). But the most hilarious thing about it is that they all serve sugary drinks at all of their book clubs. I'm the only one that serves water and a sugar free selection, in addition to the sugary (read lemonade, tea and/or boozey frozen cocktail)drinks. And when I said the water/sugar free was for anyone cutting back on the sugar, they all looked confused. It baffles me. My book club is exactly opposite. With the exception of one person who eats kosher, we are a bunch of hoovers and will eat everything. It's like the inmates have been released from the asylum and we giggle like a bunch of preteen girls while we stuff our faces with our monthly allotment of sweets.
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Post by gale w on Sept 19, 2014 17:05:01 GMT
I have this issue with my book club (each host cooks or provides dinner). Those jokers are either allergice to, or just plain don't eat, just about everything. One of them says she is allergic to beef. Beef, for heavens sake. Most of the rest don't eat pork. Some don't eat gluten (for what reason I do not know, they were eating it just fine when I first met them ten years ago). But the most hilarious thing about it is that they all serve sugary drinks at all of their book clubs. I'm the only one that serves water and a sugar free selection, in addition to the sugary (read lemonade, tea and/or boozey frozen cocktail)drinks. And when I said the water/sugar free was for anyone cutting back on the sugar, they all looked confused. It baffles me. Speaking of beef allergy, there is a tick going around that if it bites you, you can become allergic to beef and pork. That is like science fiction, almost. There is a woman who blogs (I think she's called food babe or something) and she advocates telling servers at restaurants that you have an allergy (when you don't) in order to avoid certain foods there (so they don't slip a little butter on your fish, or whatever). She has gotten a lot of heat for it but she sees nothing wrong with it. So it kind of encourages the view that people with allergy related requests may just be avoiding something and servers may not take it seriously.
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Post by azredhead on Sept 19, 2014 17:29:27 GMT
This makes me want to bake banana bread or brownies or something and take some to the neighbors!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 17:35:09 GMT
I have this issue with my book club (each host cooks or provides dinner). Those jokers are either allergice to, or just plain don't eat, just about everything. One of them says she is allergic to beef. Beef, for heavens sake. Most of the rest don't eat pork. Some don't eat gluten (for what reason I do not know, they were eating it just fine when I first met them ten years ago). But the most hilarious thing about it is that they all serve sugary drinks at all of their book clubs. I'm the only one that serves water and a sugar free selection, in addition to the sugary (read lemonade, tea and/or boozey frozen cocktail)drinks. And when I said the water/sugar free was for anyone cutting back on the sugar, they all looked confused. It baffles me. You do know that you can actually have a beef allergy, right? I'm not making excuses for those that fake allergies but a meat and even just beef allergy can be real. And a lot don't eat pork for religious reasons. Really no biggie. I don't see why serving sugar has anything to do with allergies though.
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Post by oldcrow on Sept 19, 2014 17:57:53 GMT
I can take anything to work and it will disappear. Funny thing is we have all these workers who claim they cannot eat this or that but just a little piece this one time should be okay.
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Post by whipea on Sept 19, 2014 18:14:38 GMT
I'm curious as to why seemingly every third person these days needs to be gluten-free. Is it really just a fad or is there some scientific reason for the sudden jump in gluten-free population? Until just the last few years, I'd never known anyone that got so sick from gluten. Same with lactose-free, nut allergies, etc. it's just weird how suddenly it's so prevalent. Why is this? Me too. Why? I can't remember a single child or person with deadly nut or other serious allergies when I was growing up. I am sure they existed, but it was just mot overly shared. It was if something made you ill you did not eat it but also did not expect the entire environment to be altered to accommodate your needs. You dealt with it on a personal level. I get hives, severe shortness of breath and swelling from touching/eating shellfish. My family frequently ate these items, brought them in the house and to the table. My parents just told me not to touch or eat it and that was it. I have been in South Florida all my life and this is a staple in many peoples diets. When I go out with friends to a seafood place or any restaurant, I don't fuss about cross contamination. I can't live in a bubble and believe that if my parents mollycoddled me I would subconsciously convince myself into a reaction at just the sight of a mere shrimp. My S/O has had Celiac's disease since infancy and does not eat gluten free. If he is having "issues", he just controls his wheat intake. No disrespect intended.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 18:19:20 GMT
I have this issue with my book club (each host cooks or provides dinner). Those jokers are either allergice to, or just plain don't eat, just about everything. One of them says she is allergic to beef. Beef, for heavens sake. Most of the rest don't eat pork. Some don't eat gluten (for what reason I do not know, they were eating it just fine when I first met them ten years ago). But the most hilarious thing about it is that they all serve sugary drinks at all of their book clubs. I'm the only one that serves water and a sugar free selection, in addition to the sugary (read lemonade, tea and/or boozey frozen cocktail)drinks. And when I said the water/sugar free was for anyone cutting back on the sugar, they all looked confused. It baffles me. Speaking of beef allergy, there is a tick going around that if it bites you, you can become allergic to beef and pork. That is like science fiction, almost. There is a woman who blogs (I think she's called food babe or something) and she advocates telling servers at restaurants that you have an allergy (when you don't) in order to avoid certain foods there (so they don't slip a little butter on your fish, or whatever). She has gotten a lot of heat for it but she sees nothing wrong with it. So it kind of encourages the view that people with allergy related requests may just be avoiding something and servers may not take it seriously. Whenever allergy threads come up, I recall working in a restaurant about 14 years ago. I was working in the kitchen. One of the servers sent back an order that said "NO CHEESE" over it, probably ten times. Then he came back to say that this customer was absolutely crazy about how she couldn't have ANY CHEESE because she was allergic. Over and over again she insisted. There couldn't be any cheese anywhere on her food or plate because she'd basically die. Then she ordered cheesecake with extra whipping cream on it for dessert. (I know cheese and cream cheese aren't *exactly* the same thing, but still... there's no way that lady had an annoying deathly allergy to anything).
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Post by redayh on Sept 19, 2014 18:52:33 GMT
I have this issue with my book club (each host cooks or provides dinner). Those jokers are either allergice to, or just plain don't eat, just about everything. One of them says she is allergic to beef. Beef, for heavens sake. Most of the rest don't eat pork. Some don't eat gluten (for what reason I do not know, they were eating it just fine when I first met them ten years ago). But the most hilarious thing about it is that they all serve sugary drinks at all of their book clubs. I'm the only one that serves water and a sugar free selection, in addition to the sugary (read lemonade, tea and/or boozey frozen cocktail)drinks. And when I said the water/sugar free was for anyone cutting back on the sugar, they all looked confused. It baffles me. You do know that you can actually have a beef allergy, right? I'm not making excuses for those that fake allergies but a meat and even just beef allergy can be real. And a lot don't eat pork for religious reasons. Really no biggie. I don't see why serving sugar has anything to do with allergies though. I get that you can be allergic to beef, but SHE is not. When I asked her what it does to her, she said something about how it makes her feel full. Yeah, you and everyone else. What sugar has to do with it all is that they've got all the self imposed dietary restrictions with no basis in fact, but the idea that someone might have a very legitimate medical reason (i.e. diabetes) to avoid sugar (which is extremely likely for the demographic) is nothing they've ever thought of.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 19:01:47 GMT
It's just pure speculation in my part, but I think a lot of these allergies are due to how many chemicals and GMO's are in our food, our water, the air, beauty products, vaccines, medicine, etc., it's everywhere. And it's so integrated into our way of life that the average person can't do anything about it other than try to avoid some of this stuff when and where you can.
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Post by flanz on Sept 19, 2014 19:06:33 GMT
The ironic thing is that with all this "healthy" eating, people are sicker and more obese than they were a generation ago. I daresay it's not the "healthy" eaters that are sicker and more obese. Most likely the ones who live off of fast food and soda!
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Post by anniebygaslight on Sept 19, 2014 21:04:11 GMT
I'd love to eat what others eat, and hate having to be the odd one out, but I have coeliac disease and would be very ill indeed if I ate wheat, rye or barley. I get very pissed off indeed when people accuse me of being a faddy eater.
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Post by lollapealooza on Oct 30, 2014 17:13:48 GMT
The ingredient list means nothing. If the restaurant is serving foods that are not gluten free, then everything is cross contaminated anyway, and someone with true sensitivity would not be able to eat it. So shut up about your problem...it doesn't exist.
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Post by papersilly on Oct 30, 2014 17:18:52 GMT
ahhhh, the good old days. now it's gluten free, nut free, egg free, sugar free, paleo, atkins, south beach, etc,.......
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 30, 2014 17:21:36 GMT
I'm curious as to why seemingly every third person these days needs to be gluten-free. Is it really just a fad or is there some scientific reason for the sudden jump in gluten-free population? Until just the last few years, I'd never known anyone that got so sick from gluten. Same with lactose-free, nut allergies, etc. it's just weird how suddenly it's so prevalent. Why is this? Me too. Why? I can't remember a single child or person with deadly nut or other serious allergies when I was growing up. I am sure they existed, but it was just mot overly shared. It was if something made you ill you did not eat it but also did not expect the entire environment to be altered to accommodate your needs. You dealt with it on a personal level. I get hives, severe shortness of breath and swelling from touching/eating shellfish. My family frequently ate these items, brought them in the house and to the table. My parents just told me not to touch or eat it and that was it. I have been in South Florida all my life and this is a staple in many peoples diets. When I go out with friends to a seafood place or any restaurant, I don't fuss about cross contamination. I can't live in a bubble and believe that if my parents mollycoddled me I would subconsciously convince myself into a reaction at just the sight of a mere shrimp. My S/O has had Celiac's disease since infancy and does not eat gluten free. If he is having "issues", he just controls his wheat intake.No disrespect intended. That part that I bolded in the above quote -- that's just plain stupid. If he truly has celiac disease, I mean diagnosed via an endoscopy with biopsy, then even if he's not having "issues" he is damaging his body. Stupid. -- And if he doesn't really have celiac disease -- just thinks he does because he has an "intolerance" to gluten sometimes, well then that's his choice. But he shouldn't be telling people he has celiac and then eating gluten. ugh.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Oct 30, 2014 17:26:43 GMT
I just take it to work. Those people will eat anything.
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Post by gale w on Oct 30, 2014 17:56:03 GMT
The ingredient list means nothing. If the restaurant is serving foods that are not gluten free, then everything is cross contaminated anyway, and someone with true sensitivity would not be able to eat it. So shut up about your problem...it doesn't exist. Really? We eat at restaurants that serve nut products but my severely nut allergic daughter (who has had reactions simply by breathing the smell of roasting nuts) is able to eat there. What a bitchy thing to say.
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 30, 2014 18:13:52 GMT
I've found that during the holidays people who are afraid to eat home made goodies, usually aren't afraid to serve them to their guests and friend.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Oct 30, 2014 18:46:43 GMT
I can relate to your mom on the doughnut thing - I had a gallbladder attack after drinking a cup of coffee, and I rarely drink coffee now. It is linked in my mind to severe pain. The chocolate and dairy could be related to the gallbladder, too. Reminds me of when I was in my early twenties and did too many shots of tequila and rode that porcelain bus ALL NIGHT. Now the mere smell of tequila (even if it's artificial) makes me nauseous. Luckily lemons and salt don't bother me. Dude, that is me. That's exactly what happened to me. I can not drink tequila or anything with tequila in it. Man, just typing tequila......
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Post by ntsf on Oct 30, 2014 19:05:33 GMT
I grew up in a family with many food allergies. we made everything at home and never got to go to potlucks or out to eat. we couldn't. with a list between the 5 of us...no milk, no eggs, no pork, no poultry, no fish, no peppers, no hot spices, no wheat, no chocolate, no tomatoes, no raw celery, no raw peppers, ...no soy, no safflower oil. no peanuts I baked a lot of stuff with no eggs. not everything was severe...but we had to have special milk, and never ate any "ethnic" food..no pasta, no mexican, no asian, and so on. my mom made all baked goods. and most people didn't have a clue about the struggles...this was in the 1950's and 60's...
at least now we can go out to eat...because we can find out what is in the food.
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Post by **Angie** on Oct 30, 2014 19:12:46 GMT
Luckily, my dh works with a bunch of Hoovers. I can send in anything and it will be fought over. (Although they might be afraid now - I sent in muffins in foil liners - one of the guys went to heat his up and set the microwave on fire!).
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Post by akathy on Oct 30, 2014 19:18:54 GMT
I can and do still do that. I love baking and have many friends who are happy to get my baked goods. I cook vegetarian for a friend and her family and would alter anything to accommodate a friend but I don't know many people who are on different diets than mine.
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Post by myboysnme on Oct 30, 2014 19:21:33 GMT
I like that you used 'row to hoe' correctly! I also love baked goods and fortunately can eat most any of them.
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Post by alibama on Oct 30, 2014 19:28:44 GMT
I grew up in a family with many food allergies. we made everything at home and never got to go to potlucks or out to eat. we couldn't. with a list between the 5 of us...no milk, no eggs, no pork, no poultry, no fish, no peppers, no hot spices, no wheat, no chocolate, no tomatoes, no raw celery, no raw peppers, ...no soy, no safflower oil. no peanuts I baked a lot of stuff with no eggs. not everything was severe...but we had to have special milk, and never ate any "ethnic" food..no pasta, no mexican, no asian, and so on. my mom made all baked goods. and most people didn't have a clue about the struggles...this was in the 1950's and 60's... at least now we can go out to eat...because we can find out what is in the food. That had to really be a challenge for all of you. That is an awfully lot of stuff that couldn't be eaten!
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