katie10
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Post by katie10 on Dec 30, 2018 11:37:00 GMT
I LOVE LOVE LOVE having time to waste and do as I want. Not a WWJD? Not what will get me to heaven? It's now how do I plan my day so I'm productive, get down time, and do things I love? Hear hear.There are so many pathways to happiness and fulfilment. Becky really drives me crazy when she promotes the only way.
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Post by scrappyem on Dec 30, 2018 15:27:49 GMT
As for Becky, she keeps on confirming she's off it and has no clue what the market is like: the quickest growing group are the Nones so injecting religious messaging is actually exactly the wrong move. To diversify and grow her public, she should be doing the opposite: keep her proselytising mouth shut and focus on saving her dying business. Instead, she's confusing her "mission" and her business, thinking Project Life is her way to spread the LDS message and convert. Don't get me started on how insulting it is to tell people you *know* "God" (AKA whichever deity you believe in) wants them to be happy. Just no. Also, how presumptuous is it for a human to claim they know what God wants? Le sigh. So much cognitive dissonance. My atheism is flairing up.
Thanks for the article share. That was really interesting. You raise a really good point. If scrapbooking is going to survive and thrive as an industry, it needs to be welcoming all members, including those of us that are "nones". I find proselytizing in any business a big turn off, I don't care what the religion is they are pushing. Personally I believe there is no "one way" and it annoys the crap out of me when people act like there way is the "right" way. Live and let live. I just want to play with pretty things.
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Post by crafty on Dec 30, 2018 16:15:40 GMT
I get the sense that Becky has such a drive to look and feel perfect that she can’t open up and be who she really is. I’ve listened to the podcast and when the cohost and other guests share struggles Becky doesn’t add anything to that. There was a recent show on raising children with unique needs and while the two other women shared Becky could not. It seems from the first class and some Instagram stories her youngest has some behavior issues (not clinical but she says that his “love language is attention”) and it would’ve been a great opportunity for Becky to be relatable but again she can’t ever will look like it’s not perfect. Her mistake is that her need to be perfect comes across as self-righteous.
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cbscrapper
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Post by cbscrapper on Dec 30, 2018 16:20:46 GMT
As for Becky, she keeps on confirming she's off it and has no clue what the market is like: the quickest growing group are the Nones so injecting religious messaging is actually exactly the wrong move. To diversify and grow her public, she should be doing the opposite: keep her proselytising mouth shut and focus on saving her dying business. Instead, she's confusing her "mission" and her business, thinking Project Life is her way to spread the LDS message and convert. Don't get me started on how insulting it is to tell people you *know* "God" (AKA whichever deity you believe in) wants them to be happy. Just no. Also, how presumptuous is it for a human to claim they know what God wants? Le sigh. So much cognitive dissonance. My atheism is flairing up.
Thanks for the article share. That was really interesting. You raise a really good point. If scrapbooking is going to survive and thrive as an industry, it needs to be welcoming all members, including those of us that are "nones". I find proselytizing in any business a big turn off, I don't care what the religion is they are pushing. Personally I believe there is no "one way" and it annoys the crap out of me when people act like there way is the "right" way. Live and let live. I just want to play with pretty things. I totally agree, and for me this includes political affiliations as well as religious, for both sides of the aisle (because for some their political beliefs are practically a religion to them). Some designers assume everyone is of the same viewpoint as them, although I see this more from digital designers or creative team members and have unfollowed some because of it. Kelly Purkey comes really close to that line (although she hasn’t crossed it yet). I don’t like it from either side. Just because you make cute stuff doesn’t mean I care about your religion or politics.
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Post by marg on Dec 30, 2018 17:31:50 GMT
Do people actually feel that way, I mean truly at peace like that? I so cannot relate. Is this all image and Becky thinking this is what she should portray, or does she actually believe this? My message would be “I feel uncertainty, I feel doubt, I don’t know if God exists but I’m pretty sure he doesn’t care if I’m happy and that’s probably not his job, anyway...”, lol.
I can’t follow Becky on Insta because I just viscerally dislike people who talk like this and who are 100% certain about everything. She turns me right off. Too bad because I like her albums and page protectors - but they’re too expensive to ship to Canada, anyway.
Like others have said, leave religion and politics out of business. You’ll end up pissing off at least half of your customers.
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Post by crafty on Dec 31, 2018 19:57:23 GMT
Becky is asking for feedback on what people want from her. I so wish I knew how to link this thread.
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Post by paperamy on Dec 31, 2018 21:05:10 GMT
Becky is asking for feedback on what people want from her. I so wish I knew how to link this thread. You’ll need to be logged into Facebook to view link, but here is the text as well. /
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caangel
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Post by caangel on Dec 31, 2018 21:40:14 GMT
Thanks for sharing I went and added my comments to the post. I was trilled to see that almost all of the comments said focus on scrapbooking and get rid of all the other stuff. Many also mentioned refocusing on the physical product in addition to continuing to improve the app.
We'll see if she actually listens, I don't think she will because there isn't big money in scrapbooking any more. IMO she can either scale back, refocus and stay in the industry or continue to try to become a lifestyle influencer and lose her followers completely. They have already shown that they don't want lifestyle stuff from her. If she keeps going in that direction she is going to go out of business quick.
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Post by artisticscrapper on Dec 31, 2018 22:11:14 GMT
I think Becky’s going to do what Becky’s going to do. She hasn’t listened so far so why would she start now? She has a chance to regain her original fan base if she goes back to PL/ scrapping. She still hasn’t figured out that throwing random products out there and seeing if they’ll stick is not working for her. IMO she’s never going to succeed as an influencer since there just aren’t enough people out there who can relate to her privileged lifestyle and burned sandwich life struggles.
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nicolep
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Post by nicolep on Dec 31, 2018 22:58:21 GMT
Love this.
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julie5
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Post by julie5 on Jan 1, 2019 0:45:14 GMT
Love this. I took one for the team and added this. Ordinarily I would just mind my own business but hey she did ask: Ditch the notebooks, the office chit chat about hair, dresses, earrings, Becky’s favorite things (because how does that even earn you money?), the expensive wrapping that can’t be torn, the burnt sandwiches trying to make yourself relatable to us. Make scrapbooking products want. That’s it. End of list. You can’t figure out why your audience is dwindling and it’s because you literally do nothing towards memory keeping anymore. You’re everywhere BUT scrapbooking. Pick a lane for your company and stick with it. Otherwise you look like you have business adhd.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 1:18:23 GMT
Scrapbooking is where it’s at. That’s what you rock at. Just do one thing. And loose lips sink ships.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jan 1, 2019 2:13:48 GMT
Love this. I took one for the team and added this. Ordinarily I would just mind my own business but hey she did ask: Ditch the notebooks, the office chit chat about hair, dresses, earrings, Becky’s favorite things (because how does that even earn you money?), the expensive wrapping that can’t be torn, the burnt sandwiches trying to make yourself relatable to us. Make scrapbooking products want. That’s it. End of list. You can’t figure out why your audience is dwindling and it’s because you literally do nothing towards memory keeping anymore. You’re everywhere BUT scrapbooking. Pick a lane for your company and stick with it. Otherwise you look like you have business adhd. She has said multiple times that if what she wants to share isn't what we're interested in then we should unfollow her and move on. She quite literally told people to go away if we didn't want to see/hear what she was saying. She has no business asking what drove people away or complaining that it happened because the people she ignored and told to leave for trying to tell her what we were willing to buy from her were the customers who desperately wanted PL to continue to be successful by evolving and meeting consumer desires. She didn't want to do that. She's getting her comeuppance. The fact that she's trying to make it all whoa is me (suggesting it is the fault of customers not buying her stuff/retailers for not stocking her stuff rather than her not adapting to what the market wanted) as if the effect wasn't directly related to a cause that was completely within her control to change is enraging.
The only thing I can think of is that she got caught up in the SC mentality of 'when one leaves, there is always another sucker customer there to take their place' which is 100% wrong in a continually shrinking part of the creative market.
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Post by Citygirl on Jan 1, 2019 2:36:56 GMT
I unfollowed Becky ages ago so I haven't been witness to the nonsense over the last couple years, but goodness sakes! 280+ comments all basically saying the same thing......more PL less everything else. Is she really this clueless? Or is this just a last ditch effort to save her failing business?
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sneakylatina
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Post by sneakylatina on Jan 1, 2019 17:56:16 GMT
Seems like things must really be circling the drain based on the fact that she's posting on New year's Eve and New Year's day about all this company soul searching, and also repeatedly insisting how incredibly bright the future of the company is. If that were so, I would think she wouldn't be asking strangers what to do and she would be hanging with her family enjoying some time off. I almost feel bad for her. I think the ego got to her.
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 3, 2019 2:02:46 GMT
refugeepea Glad you feel better and liberated now. Did you hear of the excellent Mormon history podcast called Naked Mormonism by Bryce Blankenagel? As someone who has never been in the Church of LDS, it's sometimes too dense for me to even comprehend what's going in certain episodes on but it's clearly extremely well researched and detailed. I haven't heard of that podcast. I have been watching Leah Remini's series about Scientology on A&E. It's been said that Mormonism is Scientology-light. I've nodded my head so many times seeing the parallels, but thinking it wasn't that crazy! I've heard some ex-Mormons refer to the religion as Ziontology.
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katie10
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Post by katie10 on Jan 4, 2019 0:05:51 GMT
If you missed the gift wrapping dance, there's a T shirt sale video up at the moment. It's ... (fill in your own description)
It's like they've seen it work for Ellen, so we'll lift it. It doesn't work for you, guys.
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nicolep
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Post by nicolep on Jan 4, 2019 4:04:20 GMT
If you missed the gift wrapping dance, there's a T shirt sale video up at the moment. It's ... (fill in your own description) It's like they've seen it work for Ellen, so we'll lift it. It doesn't work for you, guys. It's TERRIBLE!!!
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sneakylatina
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Post by sneakylatina on Jan 4, 2019 4:16:58 GMT
If you missed the gift wrapping dance, there's a T shirt sale video up at the moment. It's ... (fill in your own description) It's like they've seen it work for Ellen, so we'll lift it. It doesn't work for you, guys. It's TERRIBLE!!! Thing is, instead of making videos of you dancing, how bout your team brainstorms how to logistically get your product (t shirts) to your customers? I think it's awful to release/announce these to 80k followers as available to purchase in- person only. Amateur, shit business practice.
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craftymom101
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Post by craftymom101 on Jan 4, 2019 5:55:26 GMT
I really wanted the Paige Evans Project Life value kit but couldn't find it anywhere. The kit wasn't available online or in any of the Joann stores near me.
Becky needs to focus on memory keeping and making sure her customers can find (and buy!) her products.
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Post by QueSeraSera on Jan 4, 2019 6:38:08 GMT
Becky really needs someone to pull her aside and tell her that fan girls and customers are not always the same thing. She needs to stop focusing on the fan girls. Fan girls care about your shirt, your hair, your burnt toast. Customers do not care about any of those things. Becky has been surrounded by sycophants and fan girls for so long she thinks that everything she does is special. No Becky. You'll never be a Joanna Gaines. Ever. You made it big in crafting. You were a big fish in a little pond. Time for a reality check.
Becky was an earlier adopter to the pocket pages and had a good idea how to mass market. (Having a husband making half a mil a year surely didn't hurt getting her idea off the ground). Project Life was a phenomenon. Likely a once in a lifetime occurence. Right place, right time all that jazz. The odds of her striking gold twice are slim. She must stop trying to do it again by copying what others are doing: the ridiculous Becky dress, wrapping paper, notebooks, etc etc. None of those things are innovative or wanted in the market. She is telling her fan girls what they want to buy instead of listening to what her customers actually want to buy from her. As long as Becky is being told how ahhhhmaaaazing she is, her business will continue to decline.
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Post by miss2peas on Jan 10, 2019 18:48:14 GMT
I feel like Becky needs some sort of intervention. She is now crying on Instagram and keeps posting over and over again how everything is ok. She is oversharing and over explaining and it’s not needed. It’s like she is trying to make herself feel better. I have never experienced from any other company and honestly it all sounds so desperate.
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julie5
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Post by julie5 on Jan 10, 2019 18:56:24 GMT
I feel like Becky needs some sort of intervention. She is now crying on Instagram and keeps posting over and over again how everything is ok. She is oversharing and over explaining and it’s not needed. It’s like she is trying to make herself feel better. I have never experienced from any other company and honestly it all sounds so desperate. I agree. For someone who keeps insisting this is great, there’s still work to be done, Becky Higgins llc isn’t going anywhere, she sure is crying and blathering on a lot. Honestly all she’s doing is reinforcing the idea that the company is, in fact, NOT ok. And she wants so hard to convince herself that nothing is wrong.
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julie5
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Post by julie5 on Jan 10, 2019 19:00:09 GMT
I can see it now: 10 posts a day showing her working from home because she’s SO BUSY you guys!!
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nicolep
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Post by nicolep on Jan 10, 2019 19:04:42 GMT
She is SO. MUCH. DRAMA. Grow up!! I can't stand it.
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jennamama
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Post by jennamama on Jan 10, 2019 19:20:17 GMT
I feel like Becky needs some sort of intervention. She is now crying on Instagram and keeps posting over and over again how everything is ok. She is oversharing and over explaining and it’s not needed. It’s like she is trying to make herself feel better. I have never experienced from any other company and honestly it all sounds so desperate. OMG - she is? Must go look, I've unfollowed all her stuff. Man, this is disturbing. We saw the writing on the wall but geez.
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sneakylatina
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Post by sneakylatina on Jan 10, 2019 20:20:12 GMT
She is SO. MUCH. DRAMA. Grow up!! I can't stand it. What she's doing is incredibly unprofessional. I think she needs a serious marketing/communications person on board who knows what they're doing to take the reins, and she needs to truly follow their lead. I agree that she is oversharing and explaining way too much, and her written posts sound like she's having a crazy breakdown. It's cringey and I can't be the only customer who feels that way. The lines are just so blurred with her group and frankly, unhealthy. She needs to put her phone down for a week or even 24 hours.
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Elsabelle
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Post by Elsabelle on Jan 10, 2019 21:18:26 GMT
Wow. I looked and sure enough- actual crying. But I’m glad she feels like a human bean today.
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Post by crafty on Jan 10, 2019 22:17:50 GMT
I would think on some level she would be wondering if she ran it like a business and not a hang out location with “my girls” it may have turned out differently. I think the naming of a business with a personal name creates a weird dynamic.
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Post by ladytrisha on Jan 10, 2019 23:46:28 GMT
I see a total similarity between BH and Teresa Collins. Had a following and then their heads started getting bigger and bigger and instead of staying in that lane, they both had people surrounding them going "oh yeah, you can make money at this, you can do anything".
Well, no, no they can't. Teresa is virtually non-existent in scrapping and those of us who did buy into her stuff, are purging it left right and center because the Teresa that emerged wasn't all that pleasant. Funny, there's a thread on NSBR about "celebrities" who annoy you - she's one of mine. Just take a photo with your mouth closed. Good grief.
But I see BH going down that same road - fan girls or suck ups convincing her she can do no wrong. I bought into the PL program (sort of a hybrid version) but those kits could have been cut back to $5, not as many copies of the same ugly pattern (most of which, it turns out, don't go with any photos I have) and guess what people MIGHT buy again if she advertised and ran a business instead of a "please like me" social page.
Dresses were ugly AF, wrapping paper? Good grief.
She needs to pull out some old Creating Keepsakes and take stock of what happened to all the other holier than thou scrapbooking heroes.
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