emily2peas
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Post by emily2peas on Jul 29, 2021 17:38:31 GMT
How soon before she begging us to listen to podcasts on the topic. She’ll be the expert on this too. .
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auntmimi
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Post by auntmimi on Jul 29, 2021 17:41:52 GMT
She's already begging us to listen to the folks she's going to see in Utah. She'll get those guys to come on her podcast to cross-promote and pat herself on the back for what a great job she's doing. She is already calling herself an ally, even though she got tongue-tied saying LGBTQ and the past two months is the most I've ever seen her acknowledge the LGBTQ community, much less "advocate" for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 18:20:43 GMT
One of the podcast dudes is already getting flack for whitewashing the LDS theory of "love the sinner, hate the sin." http://instagram.com/p/CRAXOTTh_IH The old white mormon prophets can say "love" as much as they want, but if you don't allow LGBTQ people to live full lives OF LOVE (marriage, sex, family, etc. w/the consenting adult(s) of their choice) it's all just a bunch of posturing and caving to the realization that the culture is moving past you. |
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 30, 2021 1:15:50 GMT
One of the podcast dudes is already getting flack for whitewashing the LDS theory of "love the sinner, hate the sin." http://instagr.am/p/CRAXOTTh_IH The old white mormon prophets can say "love" as much as they want, but if you don't allow LGBTQ people to live full lives OF LOVE (marriage, sex, family, etc. w/the consenting adult(s) of their choice) it's all just a bunch of posturing and caving to the realization that the culture is moving past you. The further back you go, the worse the quotes. |
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MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Jul 30, 2021 2:12:15 GMT
As a social worker with almost 29 years in child protective services, I’ve dealt with a significant number of teens in group homes, residential treatment facilities, psychiatric hospitals, and a few of these “wilderness camps”, I want to express something.
I have a problem with the post of her daughter and that her daughter is there because of different behavioral issues. I am sure Becky will say that her daughter okayed it. As parents, you are to protect your kids. I don’t think her daughter is in a “head space” to give that kind of “consent”.
I guess as long as her daughter can assert herself in ways that Becky deems “okay”, such as pictures on Becky’s IG, it is all good. But if her daughter asserts herself in other ways, that Becky deems not okay, off the daughter goes to wilderness camp.
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molly11626
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Post by molly11626 on Aug 1, 2021 1:12:17 GMT
So…she’s visiting all the paces her notebooks are sold. Two places. BYU Bookstore and Deseret Books—must be a Mormon bookstore?? In case you need to find them 😂 they are in the “journal” section.
I still do not understand who buys these overpriced notebooks. She’s becoming a parody of herself.
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Post by cbscrapper on Aug 1, 2021 19:39:34 GMT
So…she’s visiting all the paces her notebooks are sold. Two places. BYU Bookstore and Deseret Books—must be a Mormon bookstore?? In case you need to find them 😂 they are in the “journal” section. I still do not understand who buys these overpriced notebooks. She’s becoming a parody of herself. Maybe she’s secretly autographing them like she fid her PL kits at HL! 😂 |
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Post by jediannie on Aug 1, 2021 21:24:32 GMT
I’ve actually been looking for an lgbtq camp for him because he needs to have more people in his village. I found a camp! I sent you a PM.  |
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Post by Night Owl on Aug 4, 2021 1:16:00 GMT
So…she’s visiting all the paces her notebooks are sold. Two places. BYU Bookstore and Deseret Books—must be a Mormon bookstore?? In case you need to find them 😂 they are in the “journal” section. I still do not understand who buys these overpriced notebooks. She’s becoming a parody of herself. Maybe she’s secretly autographing them like she fid her PL kits at HL! 😂 If she autographs them they can't send the unsold copies back to the company, there may be a method to her madness. |
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Molly
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Post by Molly on Aug 4, 2021 2:43:50 GMT
They couldn’t be sent back to the warehouse but she could do give-aways of autographed notebooks! 🤣
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Post by elegantsufficiency on Aug 4, 2021 13:38:44 GMT
Maybe she’s secretly autographing them like she fid her PL kits at HL! 😂 If she autographs them they can't send the unsold copies back to the company, there may be a method to her madness. Exactly! When I authored a book my publisher told me that if I ever found myself in a bookstore, I should introduce myself and offer to sign copies for them. That way, they couldn't be returned! |
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emily2peas
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Post by emily2peas on Aug 7, 2021 4:34:23 GMT
Someone is pretty pleased with herself and her sticker designs. And sketching them, inking them, coloring them. She wonders if we know about them. How many people buy this stickers, do you think?
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Post by camcas on Aug 7, 2021 6:37:40 GMT
I have absolutely no idea what I would use them for
And….I’m not at all fond of the naive style
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Post by ameslou on Aug 8, 2021 14:57:28 GMT
I popped into this thread bc I figured it was about time for the Beggy Higgins train to pull back into Crazy Town station ..
.. but didn’t expect it to be about highlighting her daughter’s struggles. This is a new low, even for her.
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Post by julie5 on Aug 8, 2021 15:19:39 GMT
I popped into this thread bc I figured it was about time for the Beggy Higgins train to pull back into Crazy Town station .. .. but didn’t expect it to be about highlighting her daughter’s struggles. This is a new low, even for her. and all the dumbasses congratulating her means now she’ll go into high gear lgbtq ally mom role and the expert at all things gay. It’s really insulting to those of that were allies all along. Yes my kid is trans, but I’ve never cared about gender or sexual identity. I always considered myself asexual. Like since high school before we had terms for it. And now this bitch is out here acting like she discovered this huge thing. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 8, 2021 20:03:41 GMT
Just had to come in because we finished watching Outer Banks season 2 on Netflix this weekend and there's a wilderness camp for troubled teens mentioned in it. Kiara, the character who gets "offered" this by her parents because's she's "behavioural", goes off about how messed up these camps are. And I was cheering for her from the couch!
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 9, 2021 1:12:38 GMT
I really should not have looked on her personal Instagram. She had a cake made for Claire commemorating her eight week adventure and of course promoted the bakery.
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emily2peas
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Post by emily2peas on Aug 9, 2021 2:17:18 GMT
I really feel for Claire. Her mother is exploiting her. If she wants to celebrate 8 weeks in the wilderness with a wilderness cake it should be a family thing. Not publicized for the world. Claire is still a kid.
How long before we have LGBTQ stickers. And notebooks. Someone needs to get beggy’s attention.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 4:10:12 GMT
I really feel for Claire. Same. She may be fine w/it now. But as she ages, she will reconsider these actions in the light of adult eyes. And I don't think BH will come off looking good in sharing this so publicly and for clicks. |
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Post by scrappintoee on Aug 10, 2021 7:01:11 GMT
FIVE photos of a cake---NO PEOPLE ----to celebrate Claire's coming off of "the trail"  . Annnd, of course----ANOTHER link to the camp Claire went to ("they're like FAMILY!!) , annnnd, a link to the bakery who made the cake. I also rolled my eyes at how this was the first time all 5 of them could manage to get together with their busy, INTENTIONAL lives of traveling, going to a camp that "was NOT punitive...she LOVED it!"  , etc. etc. Some of you mentioned, how did BH send Claire letters if she was in Costa Rica? Wouldn't the letters have taken wayyy too long to arrive at Claire's camp? (I wish someone would ask her!) Also, after that, they also traveled to (I think?) Colorado. Also, ever since someone on this thread mentioned how she has this separate instagram "the REAL Becky Higgins" and "Becky Higgins THE PERSON" it jusssst cracks me up. https://www.instagram.com/p/CSOJDTVra76 |
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Post by scrappintoee on Aug 10, 2021 7:08:03 GMT
Claire commemorating her eight week adventure and of course promoted the bakery. AND, promoted anasazi (NOT punitive !!! LOL!) for the millionth time! Hmm...I read somewhere (not here, and I can't remember where ) that the current price is $20,000.00 I wonder if they got major discounts if she promised to continue tagging them in sooo many posts? |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 10, 2021 7:19:09 GMT
Is it ok to name a camp obviously run by white people and aimed at non-natives a Native American name? I understand that the Anasazis are a more ancient people whose descendants today go by different names like the Hopis but is it not tone-deaf in the current climate of open discussion regarding cultural appropriation, particularly by white settlers' descendants? Especially in light of the camp's foundation talking about using the teachings of Native American philosophy but clearly, again, being a very white affair.
I'm not American so I may be missing out on subtleties in this particular debate. I'm asking to learn, not necessarily to cast stones. It just surprises me every time I read the name of the camp in this discussion.
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Post by questioning on Aug 10, 2021 15:55:49 GMT
Is it ok to name a camp obviously run by white people and aimed at non-natives a Native American name? I understand that the Anasazi are a more ancient people whose descendants today go by different names like the Hopis but is it not tone-deaf in the current climate of open discussion regarding cultural appropriation, particularly by white settlers' descendants? Especially in light of the camp's foundation talking about using the teachings of Native American philosophy but clearly, again, being a very white affair. I'm not American so I may be missing out on subtleties in this particular debate. I'm asking to learn, not necessarily to cast stones. It just surprises me every time I read the name of the camp in this discussion. Good question, Booty! I'll take a stab at it and am sure others will offer differing opinions or dispute me. My answer isn't specific to this camp because I am not taking time to read their history- In parts of the US companies will use names like this to indicate a region, or convey a feeling. We have towns named after tribes, groups and leaders. No one would ever expect it to be actual Anasazis just like the upscale Mexican restaurant down the street from me isn't owned by Mayans. They do focus on more historic ingredients, and the original owners were from that area. Do you have yoga and meditation studios there with traditional names and practice run by white women? Irish pubs no longer owned by the founders? Where I grew up there is a fierce loyalty and respect to the region's native history, and some philosophies. I'd also GENTLY remind you not all Native Americans can be identified by skin color. I'm all white (as far as we know) and share the same coloring and bone structure with my tribe member first-cousins. I'm originally from the southwest and can easily name a few blond hair blue eyed friends who are on the rolls. A friend's father was governor of their tribe, and a couple of her kids have ash blond curly hair ... I'm rambling... sorry. My bottom line is if the term is being used with respect or as a gimmick, it's a good question. ETA Again sorry for rambling post. I mull over similar questions at least once a week. |
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Post by questioning on Aug 10, 2021 16:06:47 GMT
I've been reading and unable to post until now... my kids would have absolutely loved to spend a summer this way, or at least a month. But that's them and they were rather well adjusted, until they weren't, typical teens.
I can think of three kids (now 37ish, 25, and 22) over the last 25 years who've been sent to some variation of these camps/schools/farms. They were a huge expense. And in each of those cases things really didn't improve, and their relationship with their families is troubled. The 22 year old was a middle school friend of my kids, it breaks my heart. We never saw what they thought needed curing / improvement.
I wouldn't have looked at Becky's page without this post - an example of how easily this child's info has spread. I admire Cathy Z all over again for knowing when to slow the roll on sharing info about her kids.
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Post by jediannie on Aug 10, 2021 16:26:34 GMT
I admire Cathy Z all over again for knowing when to slow the roll on sharing info about her kids. I also appreciate that Cathy Z knows that her kids' lives are their lives and not fodder for her blog or IG. When I saw that Beggy's IG name is "realbeckyhiggins" my immediate reaction was to create a fake account calling it "fakebeggyhiggins" but she's so not worth the effort. LOL |
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Post by kiera on Aug 10, 2021 16:40:23 GMT
I truly hope that Claire is okay with these things being shared and she's not just going along with it to appease her mother. I also hope she was asked permission.... something tells me that conversation may not have happened
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Post by questioning on Aug 10, 2021 16:53:46 GMT
I admire Cathy Z all over again for knowing when to slow the roll on sharing info about her kids. I also appreciate that Cathy Z knows that her kids' lives are their lives and not fodder for her blog or IG. When I saw that Beggy's IG name is "realbeckyhiggins" my immediate reaction was to create a fake account calling it "fakebeggyhiggins" but she's so not worth the effort. LOL LOL so many jokes about this running through my head... love it and I agree about the effort! |
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Post by julie5 on Aug 10, 2021 17:09:12 GMT
I've been reading and unable to post until now... my kids would have absolutely loved to spend a summer this way, or at least a month. But that's them and they were rather well adjusted, until they weren't, typical teens. I can think of three kids (now 37ish, 25, and 22) over the last 25 years who've been sent to some variation of these camps/schools/farms. They were a huge expense. And in each of those cases things really didn't improve, and their relationship with their families is troubled. The 22 year old was a middle school friend of my kids, it breaks my heart. We never saw what they thought needed curing / improvement. I wouldn't have looked at Becky's page without this post - an example of how easily this child's info has spread. I admire Cathy Z all over again for knowing when to slow the roll on sharing info about her kids. To be fair, Cathy was way over sharing until Aidan told her to knock it off. I had my own comeuppance with my first born. My 2nd born has made it clear she has social media boundaries since she doesn’t have a social media presence. My youngest is happy to share his story. So everyone has their own comfort level re sharing but Becky has no boundaries when there’s attention to be heaped upon her. |
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Post by jediannie on Aug 10, 2021 17:31:41 GMT
To be fair, Cathy was way over sharing until Aidan told her to knock it off. She totally did but respected her kids' wishes when they told her to stop. Beggy certainly does not have that respect for her kids. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 10, 2021 17:34:01 GMT
questioning Thank you for your thoughts on the matter. It seems like it's not a clear-cut question and I should've gone with my personal instinct and used "descendents of European settlers" instead of a reference to skin colour. I was trying to adapt to the American debate which is very skin colour-focused compared to the more ethnicity-focused language we use where I live. It's just not easy. I would definitely not draw a comparison between Native American culture used by non-Native Americans and, say, Irish pubs like you mentioned. While the Irish weren't treated very nicely when they first came to the US (or by the Brits as can be seen with the potato famine episode), they weren't actually the victims of mass expropriation and war by the settlers. I'm trying to figure out where the cultural appropriation "just where it benefits" the present-day descendants of the European settlers is ok or not ok. I didn't see a single mention of Native American descendance in the About Us page. I'd have thought that you'd want to emphasise your credentials if there were any. But eh. Again, what do I know? Besides the fact that Becky's troubled teen went to troubled teen wilderness camp while Becky was off to the Costa Rican "wilderness". 
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. Annnd, of course----ANOTHER link
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