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Post by sleepingbooty on Jan 18, 2020 18:28:55 GMT
Y'all need to start listening to the Naked Mormonism podcast if you want a deep dive into the history of this religion. It's BONKERS. Very entertaining. We're talking western-style shootouts, psychedelics, racism, fake historical artifacts, fake divine translations of said fake artifacts, betrayal left and right, wars over who'd take over power, etc. It truly is a neverending rabbit hole. I'll never know it all or come close to it! What I love most about Naked Mormonism is that it is a *proper* deep dive, every bit of history spanning over multiple episodes AND the amount of airtime given to uncovering the women in the religion's history, often left in the shadows and forgotten.
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Post by scrappyesq on Jan 18, 2020 18:39:04 GMT
That BH email today - I’m just gonna say it. That photo of BP and her husband (the right one of the collage) looks like porn! I mean, wow, gettin it on! (Can’t see his swimsuit so it looks like he may not be wearing one, especially with their positioning!) I had to dig that e-mail out of my Trash folder (lately I just automatically delete them) to look because I'm nosy and you are right. With her legs open and it looking like he is undressed. OH MY and LMAO! Edited to add the picture, click on it for larger view: And this is no offense to ANYONE but he looks like the photographer has .5 seconds before she ends up on the ground.
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Post by chendra on Jan 18, 2020 18:57:34 GMT
Slight deviation from the current topic flow. . . I was at our local creative reuse store last night and found a big envelope (about 3/4" thick) of unused Project Life Design A page protectors for a very good price. I picked them up because I know people have mentioned on this thread that they prefer them and are worried about future availability, yet I don't have time at the moment to scan back through all 114 pages to discover their names.
Do you think I should start a separate thread offering the whole pack? Divide them up? Post on For Sale or Trade and notify in this thread? I'd really like to get them in the hands of Design A devotees in a fair way.
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Post by julie5 on Jan 18, 2020 19:12:59 GMT
That BH email today - I’m just gonna say it. That photo of BP and her husband (the right one of the collage) looks like porn! I mean, wow, gettin it on! (Can’t see his swimsuit so it looks like he may not be wearing one, especially with their positioning!) I had to dig that e-mail out of my Trash folder (lately I just automatically delete them) to look because I'm nosy and you are right. With her legs open and it looking like he is undressed. OH MY and LMAO! Edited to add the picture, click on it for larger view: View AttachmentBut they look so HAPPY! they must be experts!!!
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jan 19, 2020 2:42:04 GMT
I got her email where she talked about her degree in Family science and kinda/sorta implied that she has education in marriage counseling via that degree. I’m calling bullshit on her knowledge of marriage counseling based in a degree earned some 20-odd years ago. Also, she reminded us that she “wrote and published” nine books. 🙄
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Post by julie5 on Jan 19, 2020 3:07:27 GMT
I got her email where she talked about her degree in Family science and kinda/sorta implied that she has education in marriage counseling via that degree. I’m calling bullshit on her knowledge of marriage counseling based in a degree earned some 20-odd years ago. Also, she reminded us that she “wrote and published” nine books. 🙄 About scrapbooking. how ironic.
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Post by cristelina on Jan 19, 2020 3:31:29 GMT
I love this thread. That is all.
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Post by msliz on Jan 19, 2020 3:49:53 GMT
Slight deviation from the current topic flow. . . I was at our local creative reuse store last night and found a big envelope (about 3/4" thick) of unused Project Life Design A page protectors for a very good price. I picked them up because I know people have mentioned on this thread that they prefer them and are worried about future availability, yet I don't have time at the moment to scan back through all 114 pages to discover their names. Do you think I should start a separate thread offering the whole pack? Divide them up? Post on For Sale or Trade and notify in this thread? I'd really like to get them in the hands of Design A devotees in a fair way. Definitely post on For Sale or Trade. You'll get some takers, I'm sure.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jan 19, 2020 8:55:20 GMT
This whole marriage retreat sales pitch has me thinking of that delicious Norwegian show about a grumpy, misanthropic marriage counselor called Dag with a 90% divorce rate. If you can find a way to stream it, please do. It's far more entertaining and fun that whatever BH is shilling on IG stories. This trailer doesn't do the show justice but eh, it's better than nothing:
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Post by camcas on Jan 19, 2020 9:13:41 GMT
Off to try and find that Norwegian show- love me some Scandi Noir! And I’m a bit curious as to what “ Family Science’ is about that constitutes a degree Is it genetics,psychology??? Not something you can do in any Australian Uni that I know of Curious
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jan 19, 2020 9:22:46 GMT
Off to try and find that Norwegian show- love me some Scandi Noir! And I’m a bit curious as to what “ Family Science’ is about that constitutes a degree Is it genetics,psychology??? Not something you can do in any Australian Uni that I know of. Curious It's very American. Not offered in French universities either. It's focused on a multi-disciplinary approach of what a family is and how it works. Apparently, it focuses on relationships and communication. BH studied at Brigham Young Uni so she got a Mormon-based approach to it as evidenced by their current curriculum (I'm assuming the renamed Becky's degree as Family Studies since). One of the courses is called "The Eternal Family" so it's definitely Mormon-based.
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Post by camcas on Jan 19, 2020 9:30:05 GMT
Ok Thanks for that info I googled but the ones I found were counselling based I didn’t realise it was a Mormon religious based study but it certainly makes sense
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jan 19, 2020 9:44:48 GMT
Ok Thanks for that info I googled but the ones I found were counselling based I didn’t realise it was a Mormon religious based study but it certainly makes sense It isn't per se. But the Brigham Young Uni's programme for this science seems to take some Mormon religion elements into account for some of the courses.
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Post by scrappyem on Jan 19, 2020 14:55:38 GMT
Ok Thanks for that info I googled but the ones I found were counselling based I didn’t realise it was a Mormon religious based study but it certainly makes sense It isn't per se. But the Brigham Young Uni's programme for this science seems to take some Mormon religion elements into account for some of the courses. It's so hard not to think that's "not a real degree". I mean I get that it it's from an accredited university and all but that doesn't seem like a real thing. Also, I worry about folks who need a real therapist and instead turn to "life coaches" and the like instead. I'm sure there's value in life coaching, and if it works for someone great, but it's not the same as seeing a licensed therapist. BH isn't a licensed therapist and shouldn't be implying she's a marriage expert. Wildly different things in my humble opinion.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 19, 2020 15:30:24 GMT
It isn't per se. But the Brigham Young Uni's programme for this science seems to take some Mormon religion elements into account for some of the courses. It's so hard not to think that's "not a real degree". I mean I get that it it's from an accredited university and all but that doesn't seem like a real thing. Also, I worry about folks who need a real therapist and instead turn to "life coaches" and the like instead. I'm sure there's value in life coaching, and if it works for someone great, but it's not the same as seeing a licensed therapist. BH isn't a licensed therapist and shouldn't be implying she's a marriage expert. Wildly different things in my humble opinion. ‘Family Science’ is not offered at every university, but it is a real degree. Other related degrees might be Human development or the various Behavioral Sciences degrees. I think some universities have moved away from the term ‘family science’ others have not. And it is not just at religious based universities for example I wouldn’t consider UMD to be religious based. But ‘family science’ is just a term that is a component in the Human behavioral sciences category. The same way some universities offer a degree in ‘Mechanical Engineering’ while other universities break it down more and offer specifically ‘Automotive Engineering’ & ’Aero space Engineering’, which are more specific areas of ‘Mechanical Engineering’ they are ’real’ degrees just the same. If your going to a counselor it is ALWAYS important to find out where/how they received their training. Counselors with religious based training may or may not be a good match for a person, depending on what they need.
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Post by riversong1963 on Jan 19, 2020 15:32:27 GMT
Family counseling, psychology, addiction therapy, child development, accounting, cooking, and fashion design all in one degree. Fascinating.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 19, 2020 15:35:53 GMT
Family counseling, psychology, addiction therapy, child development, accounting, cooking, and fashion design all in one degree. Fascinating. you forgot product design! (for wrapping paper and and notebooks, at least...)
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 19, 2020 18:12:43 GMT
So, if the husband is the one who pulls the wife into Heaven what happens if she dies first? Also, I thought Mormons were a subset of Christians, do they not believe in Jesus? Sorry, I know it is off topic and I could absolutely google this stuff, but I fear I would get sucked into a rabbit hole I don’t have time for today! I got to get my scrapbook room in order, it is a disaster and I don’t need any more excuses to not get anything done. Ha!
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Post by stittsygirl on Jan 19, 2020 18:48:32 GMT
So, if the husband is the one who pulls the wife into Heaven what happens if she dies first? Also, I thought Mormons were a subset of Christians, do they not believe in Jesus? Sorry, I know it is off topic and I could absolutely google this stuff, but I fear I would get sucked into a rabbit hole I don’t have time for today! I got to get my scrapbook room in order, it is a disaster and I don’t need any more excuses to not get anything done. Ha! It doesn’t matter who dies first, this is all post-resurrection stuff. The remaining spouse just has to remain worthy during the rest of their time on earth so they can be with their mate in the eternities. BUT... if the woman dies first then the husband can remarry/be sealed to another woman in Mormon temple, and keep her as yet another eternal wife if they are both considered worthy. If she dies then he can take another, and so on and so on. The current Mormon prophet’s first wife passed several years ago, and he relatively quickly married another wife. It’s Mormon expectation that they will both be his wives in the next life. He could also be given more wives then as well, so the Mormon belief in eternal polygamy is still alive and well. Conversely, if the man dies first in a temple-sealed Mormon marriage, the remaining wife cannot be sealed to another man unless she goes through the process of requesting and receiving a “temple divorce” or sealing cancellation from the deceased spouse she was sealed to previously. It would be the same for her if she divorced a living husband she was sealed to, but then wanted to be temple-sealed to a new husband. Women in Mormonism cannot not be sealed to more than one man in the eternities - they’ll be lucky if they end up as the only wife! Being an eternal sister-wife is going to be calling for most of those who get to that level of Mormon heaven. I was raised on all this, believed it and even taught it as a missionary and lay instructor for the Mormon church until my mid-thirties, but now realize how ridiculous and sexist it all is. But Mormon indoctrination runs deep and true-believers just believe . The Christianity thing and Mormons is a whole other can of worms. Since I now identify as an atheist I don’t really care one way or another, but there are many mainstream Christian sects that don’t consider Mormons actual Christians.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jan 19, 2020 18:48:50 GMT
So, if the husband is the one who pulls the wife into Heaven what happens if she dies first? Also, I thought Mormons were a subset of Christians, do they not believe in Jesus? Sorry, I know it is off topic and I could absolutely google this stuff, but I fear I would get sucked into a rabbit hole I don’t have time for today! I got to get my scrapbook room in order, it is a disaster and I don’t need any more excuses to not get anything done. Ha! He doesn't pull her into heaven/his own planet/Kolob (it's hard to understand what's canonical fact and what isn't as explained in this article) but they need to be sealed on earth to be eternally together. It's a weird thing because it's implied that the family remains together in the afterlife but there's no explicit mention of what happens when children age and become independent of their parents, settling into their own couple and family lives, on earth. But I know there's pressure not to leave the Church out of fear of not being able to spend eternity with your family if you do. For accessing heaven, all you need it is to accept Jesus which can be done in the afterlife by Mormon "elders" (mostly teenage boys who just accessed the status) during proxy baptisms. Yes, there's a chance *you* will be baptised Mormon after you die. It's for your own no good, no worries. They are Christ followers but they get extra books with alternative histories, including of Christ. The Book of Mormon is considered as important and sacred as the Bible. There are also the Pearl of Great Price as well as Doctrine and Covenants as part of the Mormon scripture. Joseph Smith "translated" the Bible but it's mostly the King James version with additions and revisions ( more about the JST Bible here). The rewriting of Christian history is US-centric. Adam-ondi-Ahman in Jackson County, Missouri is supposedly the place where Adam and Eve were left after they were expelled from Eden. Then there's the very special story that - brace yourself - the persecuted Jews came to America in wooden submarines around 2500 BC. Yep, you heard me right. There were plugs on the top and the bottom, fear not, the water couldn't enter and the air was kept in. Do you even want me to start on the (good, light-skinned) Nephites vs (not good, dark-skinned) Lamanites in the Americas? The rabbit hole is real. ETA: Not an ex-Mormon. Apologies if I got anything wrong! ETA2: This letter from an ex-Mormon to the Church exposes all the issues with the Mormon origin story. In case any ex-Mormons or doubting Mormons want some reading material. I'm not sure how useful this will be to someone who isn't at the very least a bit familiar with Mormon scripture, however.
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Post by bunnyhug on Jan 19, 2020 18:51:28 GMT
I’ve never heard of a family science degree, either—but not have I looked at the course offerings of any of the religious universities in Canada. My friends used to tease me that a Bachelor of Arts wasn’t a ‘real’ degree, so a family science degree could be a hard sell!
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 19, 2020 19:31:08 GMT
I didn’t realise it was a Mormon religious based study but it certainly makes sense It's real. Two of my sisters have that degree; not from BYU but a state university. One worked for Early Head Start going to homes of babies and toddlers who had developmental delays. She is now a part time aide in a classroom for kids with behavior issues. She's had many health problems, so that's all the work she can handle right now.
My other sister was a stay at home mom for several years. She is now a school teacher. The state offers teacher credential classes for people that have bachelor degrees (I'm not sure I worded that right). Anyway, she went through the process and has been teaching for at least ten years.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 19, 2020 19:47:43 GMT
do any of the companies that make project life like page protectors have something like design H? It's my most used besides design A. thank you! I have picked up several 10 packs of those from Tuesday morning for $2.50 ACOT has them for $6.69 right now. TM is a better deal.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 19, 2020 23:03:11 GMT
I have picked up several 10 packs of those from Tuesday morning for $2.50 ACOT has them for $6.69 right now. TM is a better deal. yeah I just had them out this morning and I realize my memory sucks it’s 12 packs not 10 packs
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Post by camcas on Jan 20, 2020 6:04:01 GMT
So, if the husband is the one who pulls the wife into Heaven what happens if she dies first? Also, I thought Mormons were a subset of Christians, do they not believe in Jesus? Sorry, I know it is off topic and I could absolutely google this stuff, but I fear I would get sucked into a rabbit hole I don’t have time for today! I got to get my scrapbook room in order, it is a disaster and I don’t need any more excuses to not get anything done. Ha! He doesn't pull her into heaven/his own planet/Kolob (it's hard to understand what's canonical fact and what isn't as explained in this article) but they need to be sealed on earth to be eternally together. It's a weird thing because it's implied that the family remains together in the afterlife but there's no explicit mention of what happens when children age and become independent of their parents, settling into their own couple and family lives, on earth. But I know there's pressure not to leave the Church out of fear of not being able to spend eternity with your family if you do. For accessing heaven, all you need it is to accept Jesus which can be done in the afterlife by Mormon "elders" (mostly teenage boys who just accessed the status) during proxy baptisms. Yes, there's a chance *you* will be baptised Mormon after you die. It's for your own no good, no worries. They are Christ followers but they get extra books with alternative histories, including of Christ. The Book of Mormon is considered as important and sacred as the Bible. There are also the Pearl of Great Price as well as Doctrine and Covenants as part of the Mormon scripture. Joseph Smith "translated" the Bible but it's mostly the King James version with additions and revisions ( more about the JST Bible here). The rewriting of Christian history is US-centric. Adam-ondi-Ahman in Jackson County, Missouri is supposedly the place where Adam and Eve were left after they were expelled from Eden. Then there's the very special story that - brace yourself - the persecuted Jews came to America in wooden submarines around 2500 BC. Yep, you heard me right. There were plugs on the top and the bottom, fear not, the water couldn't enter and the air was kept in. Do you even want me to start on the (good, light-skinned) Nephites vs (not good, dark-skinned) Lamanites in the Americas? The rabbit hole is real. ETA: Not an ex-Mormon. Apologies if I got anything wrong! ETA2: This letter from an ex-Mormon to the Church exposes all the issues with the Mormon origin story. In case any ex-Mormons or doubting Mormons want some reading material. I'm not sure how useful this will be to someone who isn't at the very least a bit familiar with Mormon scripture, however. Again......wow......
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Post by scrappintoee on Jan 21, 2020 7:41:22 GMT
This whole marriage retreat sales pitch has me thinking of that delicious Norwegian show about a grumpy, misanthropic marriage counselor called Dag with a 90% divorce rate. If you can find a way to stream it, please do. It's far more entertaining and fun that whatever BH is shilling on IG stories. This trailer doesn't do the show justice but eh, it's better than nothing: sleepingbooty ---- Very funny, thanks for sharing that. I did some searching on youtube and found one entire epi so far; but like you suggested, there's probably a way to stream it (I'm too tired to figure it out now).
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Post by miss2peas on Jan 22, 2020 3:41:25 GMT
I just wanted to give a heads up that Tuesday Morning appears to have two other square corner kits coming in. In a video I seen they found, Magnolia Jane and Super Duper. The first is a Heidi Swapp so I was able to find some good pics of it on her site from when it came out. The second one was harder for me to get a look at since Becky never really posted anything about new kits towards the end of her caring about pl.
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Post by nettiel on Jan 22, 2020 5:58:35 GMT
Oh my goodness, this review for the podcast 😂😂
“I had high expectations for this podcast “cultivate a good life and document it” after following Becky Higgins Project Life for a while. Unfortunately there’s very little about documenting and a lot about them waffling on about how you should be living with very few useful ideas. Becky P especially always goes on about what a great husband she has, what a great life she has and what a great homemaker she is. If you’re not living a perfect life it can make you feel quite inadequate. And why say something in one sentence when you can use seven! And if they’re interviewing someone and she hasn’t said something for a few minutes she’ll throw in some random story to get the spotlight back on her. I enjoyed the earlier episodes but I think they’re running out of ideas and now just enjoy talking (and talking) about themselves. There are better podcasts out there.”
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jan 22, 2020 6:18:41 GMT
I just wanted to give a heads up that Tuesday Morning appears to have two other square corner kits coming in. In a video I seen they found, Magnolia Jane and Super Duper. The first is a Heidi Swapp so I was able to find some good pics of it on her site from when it came out. The second one was harder for me to get a look at since Becky never really posted anything about new kits towards the end of her caring about pl. I saw some straggler bits coming in a few weeks back and mentioned to the regular crew at the store closer to home that I hoped it would mean more is coming. I only found 5 square core kits...are these core kits I missed or are they perhaps some of the value kits that I didn't bother making a list of? Either way, this news has me super excited. I went through all of my large kits (except for 3, September Skies, the newer baby boy version and Southern Wedding) and the majority of my value kits and filled 5 boxes full of cards that I'll be giving to a mom that regularly volunteers at the school. I was going to just send the trays, but I think I'm going to let go of the magnetic boxes, too, which is very hard for me, lol. Square kits (the Click kit stays on my desk using prime real estate) coming 'round again are enough to make me feel good about the purging because I actually use the square ones.
Thanks so much for the heads up!
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Post by caangel on Jan 22, 2020 6:28:41 GMT
I also found embellishments for Click the last time I was in a TM. So keep an eye out!
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